[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[eymas]

If the person is refusing in what is know as "in character", he can be killed; it's a proper role-play reason.

If the person is moaning at administrators that "he doesn't want to RP or get kidnapped", then that is a rule-break.

pretty much true, depends on how you look at it of course.

[Exterminator]

So when you /sex a hooker, he/she/shemale loses health. But by going afk, this doesnt happen and hence they are alive and more and more curious people can /sex them, letting em earn money while being afk and dodging the script's limitation on it
My friend claims that its not script/bug abuse to do this, but i disagree. Who's right :/

[Kojak]

So when you /sex a hooker, he/she/shemale loses health. But by going afk, this doesnt happen and hence they are alive and more and more curious people can /sex them, letting em earn money while being afk and dodging the script's limitation on it
My friend claims that its not script/bug abuse to do this, but i disagree. Who's right :/

I wasn't aware of this so thanks for letting us know. If it is the case that the script can be circumvented to a player's advantage like this then doing so would be against the rules. Claiming script abuse however does require intent on the part of the player, so if a player goes afk while on hooker duty and someone randomly uses /sex on him it is not his fault if he benefits from that in some way. I expect we would likely kick the player to prevent it from happening if we became aware of it.

If a player pauses while on hooker duty regularly and every time they do people use /sex on them while they're paused then we will know it is intentional and may take action for script abuse.

To be clear, if it is done deliberately it is script abuse and is bannable.

[Pagon]

1. Is it considered accepting a bribe if you take the money from the briber but give him a harsher punishment for trying to bribe and keep the money?

2. Why is there a rule that forbids buying hp while in combat, but not for buying armor?

3. Why can't we see our full punishment history?

4. What is considered engaging when approaching a suspect? If you go talk to them is it engaging? I'm just wondering because often suspects kill you (without RP) if you try to reason with them.

5a. Is this DM? I have mixed information
Person A does something minor to person B, like for example, calls them stupid. B is RPing a person with a short fuse, and takes it to heart. B takes out his gun, and starts RPing things like, loading bullets, reloading his gun. A understands the situation, but doesn't RP back. He just says things like "Whatcu gonna do?" or "Nice gun". A aims at B, and kills him.

Person A roleplayed it the whole way through. The minor main incident is not a cause to kill someone, but what if you RP it through properly, and both parties understand the situation? Some people say its DM because the main incident is so minor, but some say it's not DM as person A and B both had a understanding of the situation and A roleplayed it through.
5b If it's DM, then where is the line of "too minor" offences to kill somebody?
5c, If it is DM, then do you have to say "I am going to kill you if you don't do what I say" or can you just use commands such as /reload 1 and /gunpoint 1 to get your message across?


100th post, yeehaaaw!

[Stivi]

is it allowed to use a-cmds to eject someone out of the vehicle, because he's in a event, which fobids vehicles ?

[Dutchy]

is it allowed to use a-cmds to eject someone out of the vehicle, because he's in a event, which fobids vehicles ?

Yes,

because he's in a event, which fobids vehicles

[Stivi]

Yes,

Let me be more specific. It was a marathon.

[Gandalf]

1. Is it considered accepting a bribe if you take the money from the briber but give him a harsher punishment for trying to bribe and keep the money?

If you keep the money it would be more like a scam. If you want to keep the money and punish for bribing, at least make it an extended RP so the person will not feel scammed.

2. Why is there a rule that forbids buying hp while in combat, but not for buying armor?

Because when the rule was made you could not buy armour. However if you manage to be in combat inside an ammunation expect that the admins will interfere.

3. Why can't we see our full punishment history?

Because what you did last year is irrelevant to what you are doing now. People change.

4. What is considered engaging when approaching a suspect? If you go talk to them is it engaging? I'm just wondering because often suspects kill you (without RP) if you try to reason with them.

Any attempt to let them give up is engaging. Keep an eye on the police radio as usually the suspects will be mentioned there so you should know not to approach them without weapons.

5a. Is this DM? I have mixed information
Person A does something minor to person B, like for example, calls them stupid. B is RPing a person with a short fuse, and takes it to heart. B takes out his gun, and starts RPing things like, loading bullets, reloading his gun. A understands the situation, but doesn't RP back. He just says things like "Whatcu gonna do?" or "Nice gun". A aims at B, and kills him.

Person A roleplayed it the whole way through. The minor main incident is not a cause to kill someone, but what if you RP it through properly, and both parties understand the situation? Some people say its DM because the main incident is so minor, but some say it's not DM as person A and B both had a understanding of the situation and A roleplayed it through.
5b If it's DM, then where is the line of "too minor" offences to kill somebody?
5c, If it is DM, then do you have to say "I am going to kill you if you don't do what I say" or can you just use commands such as /reload 1 and /gunpoint 1 to get your message across?
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100th post, yeehaaaw!

If both agree it is never DM. If one does not agree to the killing, then you should think of what roleplay reason there was to start it. Also consider why there is the need for (lethal) violence in almost every situation.

[Gandalf]

is it allowed to use a-cmds to eject someone out of the vehicle, because he's in a event, which fobids vehicles ?

Yes.

[Vitoo]

Any attempt to let them give up is engaging. Keep an eye on the police radio as usually the suspects will be mentioned there so you should know not to approach them without weapons.

Let me present you a situation regarding this question.

So there are two players who are wanted and three who are not at Tierra Robada near Area 69. They're on top of a "mountain" near the satellite, to be precise.
I'm patrolling with my friend and I'm actually tracking them down but I only pass by the road next to their location under them without giving any warnings or shooting; basically taking no actions that would suggest I was there to engage on them. Supposedly they'd think I was merely passing by without giving a damn about them.
As I'm passing by everyone including the ones who are not wanted start opening fire on me mostly with M4s (I don't think the weapons they use is relevant but anyway).

My question is; is anyone out of those five players allowed to open?

[Slavik]

Let me present you a situation regarding this question.

So there are two players who are wanted and three who are not at Tierra Robada near Area 69. They're on top of a "mountain" near the satellite, to be precise.
I'm patrolling with my friend and I'm actually tracking them down but I only pass by the road next to their location under them without giving any warnings or shooting; basically taking no actions that would suggest I was there to engage on them. Supposedly they'd think I was merely passing by without giving a damn about them.
As I'm passing by everyone including the ones who are not wanted start opening fire on me mostly with M4s (I don't think the weapons they use is relevant but anyway).

My question is; is anyone out of those five players allowed to open?

If you just driving by (No shooting or warnings) they are not allowed to shoot, especially if they're not suspects.

[Vitoo]

If you just driving by (No shooting or warnings) they are not allowed to shoot, especially if they're not suspects.

Okay, thank you for clarifying.

[Leon.]

Because what you did last year is irrelevant to what you are doing now. People change.

I wish more people recognized this. :'(

[Andy.]

If you just driving by (No shooting or warnings) they are not allowed to shoot, especially if they're not suspects.

You're hardly to be 'driving by' Big Ear. Nobody goes to Big Ear without reason, its literally ALWAYS deserted. So I think 'driving by; is kinda bullshit. They went there to catch the suspects. They should expect to be shot at, I believe it should be allowed.

[Slavik]

You're hardly to be 'driving by' Big Ear. Nobody goes to Big Ear without reason, its literally ALWAYS deserted. So I think 'driving by; is kinda bullshit. They went there to catch the suspects. They should expect to be shot at, I believe it should be allowed.

If the cop is not chasing you then you are NOT allowed to open fire. Even if the cop passes the suspect, the suspect should not fire at the police.
(Note: You are not allowed to engage police if you are not involved in same RP.)