[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[MBSF]

that has been answered before, read my signature.

[Mafs]

A cop shoots at two criminals, the criminals then fire at the cop as he is driving away, trying to blow his car up so they can escape. Subsequently, the criminals get kicked for cophunting. I was one of the criminals, so needless to say I came on and said that it wasn't cop hunting. The admin then warned me for "Drop it" and I said he was wrong, if a cop shoots at you, you can shoot him, and kill him to escape. The admin in question continously argued that once a cop has shoot, you cannot do anything to him at all if he tries to escape. I was tempbanned for 60 minutes after.

Who was right here? The admin, or me, the criminal?

Indeed, as stated before by Gandalf, you are the one who is right.
The cop tried to fled but he has already opened fire on your before, thus basicly gives you permission to shoot back and/or chase him so he can't 'rat out on you' for example.

So, you were right

[Daco]

A cop shoots at two criminals, the criminals then fire at the cop as he is driving away, trying to blow his car up so they can escape. Subsequently, the criminals get kicked for cophunting. I was one of the criminals, so needless to say I came on and said that it wasn't cop hunting. The admin then warned me for "Drop it" and I said he was wrong, if a cop shoots at you, you can shoot him, and kill him to escape. The admin in question continously argued that once a cop has shoot, you cannot do anything to him at all if he tries to escape. I was tempbanned for 60 minutes after.

Who was right here? The admin, or me, the criminal?

WHAT. O_O

[Eric Wright]

was it hwaldar? wouldn't be surprised

[MBSF]

[ x ] confirmed hwaldar imo

[JDC]

Situation:

A player logs off after a rooftop DD, on that same roof, because he did not have time to get to the bottom when he logged off. The next day, he logs on and the only viable option, since no one would pick him up, is to get off the roof by using TAB.

Or to make it simpler, "he spawned on top of a roof after he /q'd during/after an event and has to use TAB to get down".

Permissible or rulebreaking?

[Gandalf]

A cop shoots at two criminals, the criminals then fire at the cop as he is driving away, trying to blow his car up so they can escape. Subsequently, the criminals get kicked for cophunting. I was one of the criminals, so needless to say I came on and said that it wasn't cop hunting. The admin then warned me for "Drop it" and I said he was wrong, if a cop shoots at you, you can shoot him, and kill him to escape. The admin in question continously argued that once a cop has shoot, you cannot do anything to him at all if he tries to escape. I was tempbanned for 60 minutes after.

Who was right here? The admin, or me, the criminal?

The admin was incorrect in the initial punishment.
As for discussing the rules and punishment, the server is not the correct place which makes your temban actually a valid one.

In the future ask the admin to view this topic and do not argue after that.

[Gandalf]

Situation:

A player logs off after a rooftop DD, on that same roof, because he did not have time to get to the bottom when he logged off. The next day, he logs on and the only viable option, since no one would pick him up, is to get off the roof by using TAB.

Or to make it simpler, "he spawned on top of a roof after he /q'd during/after an event and has to use TAB to get down".

Permissible or rulebreaking?

If the player has just logged on and finds himself on a rooftop without a way to go down I personally would not object. However I would like to note that using /kill (if needed combined with F4) does not cost the player any money, and there for is the official way to get out of that situation.

Once the player starts a RP when on that rooftop, TAB becomes impossible to use.
This means that if the player asks for air rescue or tells he is a suicider, then decides to use TAB on landing, he is breaking the rules.

[Wake]

I dont know if this is right place, but I hopes so.

I heard that CBFasi told that cops is not allowed in "killing" events when you going to kill someone
because they can use their free duty weapon to kill and civilians need to buy weapons.

But for example, in "Kill The Ghosts" events, xcasio allows cops to join.

So I just want an simple answer if cops is allowed in killing events

[Gandalf]

I dont know if this is right place, but I hopes so.

I heard that CBFasi told that cops is not allowed in "killing" events when you going to kill someone
because they can use their free duty weapon to kill and civilians need to buy weapons.

But for example, in "Kill The Ghosts" events, xcasio allows cops to join.

So I just want an simple answer if cops is allowed in killing events

There is no general rule on this. It is up to the organizer of the event to set rules.

[rJCaiG]

I am suspect & with about 7 other suspects.
I die, the others survive & remain suspects.
In their RP they were doing an offensive when I died. (Driving away from cops, attacking once their car exploded, etc)
10 mins later they begin a defensive phase - a whole new RP.
The no return rule is you can't return to a RP if you die while suspect.

In this situation, once they enter a defensive RP, can I return? It is a different RP, therefore, according to the general consensus about the rule, returning should be allowed.


:ps: Is Carsurfing then punching the roof of a car allowed, or is it in the same boat as shooting whilst carsurfing?

[Mikro]

Giac, I think your first question falls under an other rule then "no return to rp after dead". The rule I am thinking about is the one that you can not aid a group of suspects with direct shooting. Like when the criminals set up a defensive position in a house and you enter the house by breaching the police perimiter. Although I don't know how this goes when the died person (you) is already in the house when the group of suspects arrive.

[Gandalf]

I am suspect & with about 7 other suspects.
I die, the others survive & remain suspects.
In their RP they were doing an offensive when I died. (Driving away from cops, attacking once their car exploded, etc)
10 mins later they begin a defensive phase - a whole new RP.
The no return rule is you can't return to a RP if you die while suspect.

In this situation, once they enter a defensive RP, can I return? It is a different RP, therefore, according to the general consensus about the rule, returning should be allowed.


:ps: Is Carsurfing then punching the roof of a car allowed, or is it in the same boat as shooting whilst carsurfing?

The idea of "no return" is that the RP situation ends when the suspects are jailed, killed or escaped. Regardless on how they act, as long as not all suspects have been jailed, killed or have escaped their suspect state there is no new RP.

Carsurfing should be seen as you holding on to the car while its driving.

[Leon.]

Situation:
Doe is driving a helicopter to suspects A,b,c,d......p. He's alone, a cop, and armed with the basic duty weapons. His plan is to take advantage of the criminal's instinct to eliminate spectators in the area, who are more than likely to give away their position, AKA, he plans on hovering over the criminals, being shot at, and blowing up, allowing the helicopter to just fall down on the criminals, going BANGBOOM...

Questions:
1. Does this count as mass DM?
2. Who's really at fault here?

[soad103]

i am a suspect who is growing weed.  The police kill me but have failed to collect my grown weed.  I return to the spot to harvest my weed.  The police kill me again.  I return to the weedfield to growweed once again.  This pattern repeats continuously until I leave the game

rulebreak or permissible?