[POLL] Do all people have equal voice rights?

[ChaNce]

@Legend: The purpose of my posting this topic is becuase I am angered when I see injustices such as when a player makes a topic and the entire community shouts the email in his ears, locks his topic, and calls him a spammer, and where a main admin / developer makes a topic with the exact same words or point and the majority of players kiss his / her ass and agree 100 percent.

No shit....

[Matthew_Cipricla]

@Legend: The purpose of my posting this topic is becuase I am angered when I see injustices such as when a player makes a topic and the entire community shouts the email in his ears, locks his topic, and calls him a spammer, and where a main admin / developer makes a topic with the exact same words or point and the majority of players kiss his / her ass and agree 100 percent.

Please give me one example of an admin or developer making a topic compalining about something or pointing something else out like "admins are corrupt". Developers/like Aragor and Gandalf have every right to post something like that as an announcement because its their website. But give me an example of admin doing this, because I havent seen anything...

[Icarus]

Please give me one example of an admin or developer making a topic compalining about something or pointing something else out like "admins are corrupt". Developers/like Aragor and Gandalf have every right to post something like that as an announcement because its their website. But give me an example of admin doing this, because I havent seen anything...

Legolas made a post calling 90% of SA-MP DMers and non-rpers, and instead of sticking up for themselves, 90% of SA-MP said "oh yeah, I agree"  Matthews Right, but i dont agree with most of the stuff getting posted these days, its mostly flame bait.

[Matthew_Cipricla]

Legolas was right, 90% of SA:MP are DM-ers, Non-Rpers, because most servers on SA:MP are Dm servers. Or do you mean he said Argonath are Dmers, because if thats true that wasnt a smart thing on his part, the players are what makes Argo, Argonath.....

BTW do you have the link  to the topic where he said it?

[Icarus]

Legolas was right, 90% of SA:MP are DM-ers, Non-Rpers, because most servers on SA:MP are Dm servers. Or do you mean he said Argonath are Dmers, because if thats true that wasnt a smart thing on his part, the players are what makes Argo, Argonath.....

BTW do you have the link  to the topic where he said it?

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=26565.0

Theres more somewhere else, but i cba finding it.

[Squeak]

@Topic Title..
Simple Answer: No.

[JDC]

Legolas was right, 90% of SA:MP are DM-ers, Non-Rpers, because most servers on SA:MP are Dm servers. Or do you mean he said Argonath are Dmers, because if thats true that wasnt a smart thing on his part, the players are what makes Argo, Argonath.....

BTW do you have the link  to the topic where he said it?

I wont agree about the DMers, but I would agree about the NonRPers. A lot of players (me included ofc) on Argonath lack one of the following factors:

1. Roleplay Skills (NonRPers)
2. Player Communication Skills (Flamers)
3. Attitude (People who feel that they are 1337 but are actually jerks)
4. New Player Communication (People who dont help out new players because they basically think its a waste of time)

Only few people on Argonath (the people who end up being hated only because of envy) have a good score in all four of those attributes, that's one of the reasons why Legolas made this topic.

If a regular player or even a low-level admin made a topic exactly like that, the Argonath Players will deny the fact and shout the email in his ears because they know that the topic describes them, but they will turn their mouths into vaccum cleaners and asskiss like hell if a Main Admin or Developer posted it.

[The_Wolf]

@Legend: The purpose of my posting this topic is becuase I am angered when I see injustices such as when a player makes a topic and the entire community shouts the email in his ears, locks his topic, and calls him a spammer, and where a main admin / developer makes a topic with the exact same words or point and the majority of players kiss his / her ass and agree 100 percent.

Players would kiss developers' and main admins' asses... oh, is that so?
Since when did all started "rising" and complaining about everything?
It's been like that here ever since I joined this community. Who wouldn't use the chance of "supporting" a developer and aproving his topics and replies? I was like that also, I liked asskissing and giving such "support".

I also think there is a lot of people, whom are like that, but who would also change some day, just like I did. Now I will give you an example...

You go out in the street and start telling some things to people who you don't know. You start telling them about real life experiences, about games, about your house and etcetera. Who would listen to you? Nobody, they'd just tell you to go away.

Now if you are a well known politic or a celebrity in your country and you go out on streets and start talking to people, everyone would pretend they care and give you "False support". That's the way it is and would always be, because this is life...

You creating this topic will not change anything and neither it would make people listen to other players' posts and topics.
Oh and by the way, me personally, when I see a topic with an interesting title, I go there and see what it has, no matter if it was created by a player, an admin or even a guest. So not all people here are like that...

[ChaNce]

Well Legend,

I dont think JDC means the asslicker sort like: Hey CBF good job!
I think he means those guys who say shit like: OMFG WTF IT IS GANDALF OMFG BBBBBBQQQQQQQQ <333 WE LOVE YOU
Thats whats annoying, and for me...not acceptable.

[Caltson]

Well Legend,

I dont think JDC means the asslicker sort like: Hey CBF good job!
I think he means those guys who say shit like: OMFG WTF IT IS GANDALF OMFG BBBBBBQQQQQQQQ <333 WE LOVE YOU
Thats whats annoying, and for me...not acceptable.

If you appreciate the work of a developer, Is it that bad if you give him a compliment or is that seen as asslicker to?

[The_Wolf]

Well Legend,

I dont think JDC means the asslicker sort like: Hey CBF good job!

I did not quite mean that either, telling a developer he did a good job is not asslick and it might feel very well sometimes, I can assure you.

I more likely meant the guys who are like: "I agree with you, you are 100% correct, ofcourse it's that way!" and do not get me wRONg, not everybody who does that is an asskisser, only the ones who do it all the time and only with developers.

[adam_stevens]

Answer: No, we fucking don't.

[Matthew_Cipricla]

Well if someone made that exact same topic that legolas made, would they get flamed? Thats the real question, and if they would of gotten flamed (and the only reason why legolas didnt get flamed because he is high authority) then this community has some serious problems. However, if a regular person like you or me posted that, then people might think of it as a complaining bitchy ass attitude. but since a high authoirty person posted it people will  think of it as an important announcement and should be read and followed.....

I dont know seems to be theres some serious sh*t not right, but its still a great community.

[JDC]

Matthew and ChaNce just found the words which I failed to speak.

Seriously, if people see a complaint topic being made about them, they should accept instead of flaming the poster. This community does have some serious problems.

About the "CBF good job" asskisser type, giving a developer a compliment does not mean asskissing necessarily. But there are some people who act like "Sweet Mary Jane" in front of the developers and when its a new player facing them, they're like "fuck off you noob".

[Pancher]

^ Damn true. That's pretty natural. That "equal rights" thing unfortunately is just a dream.
Sometimes admins are right, and if you discuss with them, you get a "drop it" + a banana.
Sometimes admins are wrong and they know it, and if you discuss with them, you get a "drop it" + banana.

Easy answer on that. We dont want peopel arguee, screaming, moaning and fight over Public chat cos it's anoying to read while u Role Playing. Iven if an admin has right or not, Our task is to finish end the disucssen on the public chat so others can be relaxed when they are RP.. If u want to keep discuss please use MSN or other ways that fits u. I'm always on MSN so send a messeage there instead, or as other says send a mail to complaint mail..