Problems and solutions

[The_Wolf]

As most of you might be aware, there has been a lot of arguing and flaming occuring in our community (forums especially) rescently.
This is the reason I decided to create this topic. It is easy, I will explain you how it works with a couple of lines:

Since ArgonathRPG is the server and the COMMUNITY is the players themself, the community is based on respect and understanding between players and especially between players and the more "special" players - administration. In this topic you can TELL YOUR OWN OPINION about what is going on in the community and why it is caused. Furthermore, you should give us (only if possible) a suggestion of how the problem you pointed out could be fixed. Every player (admin or not, banned or not, does not matter) could share his opinion here and no exceptions.

I hope players can understand that when Aragorn and Gandalf are away and with Legolas resigned, the server developers themself are with almost tied hands. We are not allowed to feel as the server is ours, because there could be many things that Gandalf or/and Aragorn could disagree with and we are "putting our ass on the table" just so the players could feel better in the server.

The rules for this topic are simple, NO ARGUING WITH OTHER PLAYERS' SUGGESTIONS OR SOLUTIONS. This would only lead nowhere and this is not the point here, is it? Admins are allowed to post suggestions same as players, however, they are not allowed to argue and place doubts in the players' solutions.


Please, remember nobody promises that anything could be done. The most serious problems and the best solutions given here by players shall be discussed among developers and we shall do our best.

Thank you.
With kind regards, Legend.

[Dave]

Reduce the size of the general administration team/ Have skilled and experienced admins who know what they're job is and how to carry it out efficently

[cumbia_chorra]

I have a question: What happened with Elrond([R*]Kojak i think)?

[The_Wolf]

Reduce the size of the general administration team/ Have skilled and experienced admins who know what they're job is and how to carry it out efficently

I see the solution there, but I think your post lacks the problem. Also, please refer to the server you are talking about or it is in general about all servers?
Thanks.

I have a question: What happened with Elrond([R*]Kojak i think)?

He went inactive for a big period of time, I think it was either have personal difficulties or being sent somewhere, do not remember well. I am sure you would find the explanation if you loop trought his last posts at his profile.

[Dave]

I see the solution there, but I think your post lacks the problem. Also, please refer to the server you are talking about or it is in general about all servers?
Thanks.
He went inactive for a big period of time, I think it was either have personal difficulties or being sent somewhere, do not remember well. I am sure you would find the explanation if you loop trought his last posts at his profile.

Generally all servers. But SA:MP mainly. A single admin should be able to handle what 10-20 people qithout trouble? I've had to handle 50-60 on my own but with other admins idling. A few other admins have had to handle a large amount of players on their own.

[cDa]

Elrond went on a 6 months business trip

[masterpipo]

Generally all servers. But SA:MP mainly. A single admin should be able to handle what 10-20 people qithout trouble? I've had to handle 50-60 on my own but with other admins idling. A few other admins have had to handle a large amount of players on their own.

uh dont know about all servers and the admin team but i do think samp has tomuch admins as you say... but mta:sa where i am active there is just the right amount of admins there is almost always one admin on sometimes more but it aint like so that there are more admins on then players or something and what you said about 10-20 players p/admin then mta:sa would have just 1 admin or 2 cause there aint so much players on mta:sa yet and most of the time there are allot of new players that need help and want that fast not have to wait for it half an hour until everyone is helped if it should be done by one admin...
so about admin thing it must be like this: a normal amount of admins that should be like 1/2 admins on a full server the rest of the admins has the rights and stuff but let the 1/2 admins controll the situations of dming etc and when they are busy the other admins on the server should help on request in admin chat and also they do some admin work when its happining right infront of their noses...

about the banning/kicking/warning that some admins are doing (i hear on forum) for stupid reasons is just ****** admins always ban/kick/warn for a reason it may not be proper one but that must be thought to the admins that doesnt know what proper reasons are one example:
2 players rping and flaming all the time in main chat instaid of just warning them and they get pissed the admin just go to the people and talks to them in local chat to ask them to talk in local chat  its just that simple

my solution on the problem is this:
i dont have any solutions cause i dont really know what is really happining in the samp server ( yes the samp server is the server where the most trouble is even i know that cause i read the forums) so if someone could explain to me what is really going on why everyone i arguing with each other then i can try to help finding a solution.

and ps. its good of legend that he made this topic and i hope we can get a solution

[Jubin]

Problem: Well one problem I see, is the unspecific accusations. I mean players complain a lot about admins, though they don't even say who. All the answer what they usually get is - "Send a e-mail to ...." but really people like to have some information also, how far are the community leaders with the investigation. So, I say the players have become more apart from the community leaders then they used to be.

Solution: Ok, people if you don't want to send a formal complain to an e-mail because you don't trust it and you see no progress, send Personal Message to community Leaders in forum. And Community Leaders, give feedback.

Communication, communication and more communication is the keyword between players and administration.

[The_Wolf]

Problem: Well one problem I see, is the unspecific accusations. I mean players complain a lot about admins, though they don't even say who. All the answer what they usually get is - "Send a e-mail to ...." but really people like to have some information also, how far are the community leaders with the investigation. So, I say the players have become more apart from the community leaders then they used to be.

Solution: Ok, people if you don't want to send a formal complain to an e-mail because you don't trust it and you see no progress, send Personal Message to community Leaders in forum. And Community Leaders, give feedback.

Communication, communication and more communication is the keyword between players and administration.

I was hoping you would post here, people should read this.
Very good solution and a real problem, thanks!

[SugarD]

Problem: ARPD's main page on the website's new section is heavily out-of-date, and I've attempted a few times to have the issue resolved.

Solution: ARPD webmasters need to be assigned, and the news section should be relinked to a specific area of the ARPD forums so news can be displayed according to what is posted there, and all high-ranking officials of ARPD should have access rights to creating topics in that specific area of the ARPD forums. This allows for the news to stay up-to-date, and it also allows all qualified officials to make informational posts based on what their rank should already be allowing them to do.


(On a side note, thank you Legend for creating this topic. This is exactly what I had in mind when I made my first few posts in that other topic. )

[Dave]

Problem: ARPD's main page on the website's new section is heavily out-of-date, and I've attempted a few times to have the issue resolved.

Solution: ARPD webmasters need to be assigned, and the news section should be relinked to a specific area of the ARPD forums so news can be displayed according to what is posted there, and all high-ranking officials of ARPD should have access rights to creating topics in that specific area of the ARPD forums. This allows for the news to stay up-to-date, and it also allows all qualified officials to make informational posts based on what their rank should already be allowing them to do.


(On a side note, thank you Legend for creating this topic. This is exactly what I had in mind when I made my first few posts in that other topic. )

Agreed.

[SugarD]

Problem: MTA:VC has a serious lack of users and administration right now.

Solution: Host some kind of event to get people on MTA:VC, and try to encourage them to start becoming more active again. As for administration, go through the current administration and relieve those from their duties that can no longer hold them, and set up interviews with possible administration members that are experienced and highly-qualified for the job. Make sure they are active and promote the server the best they can.

[The_Wolf]

Problem: ARPD's main page on the website's new section is heavily out-of-date, and I've attempted a few times to have the issue resolved.

Solution: ARPD webmasters need to be assigned, and the news section should be relinked to a specific area of the ARPD forums so news can be displayed according to what is posted there, and all high-ranking officials of ARPD should have access rights to creating topics in that specific area of the ARPD forums. This allows for the news to stay up-to-date, and it also allows all qualified officials to make informational posts based on what their rank should already be allowing them to do.

Kaltsu is the only ARPD website administrator as soon as I know, I shall contact him A.S.A.P. and see what we could do.
Thanks for the suggestions given, I like them, keep up guys!

[Dave]

Problem: MTA:VC has a serious lack of users and administration right now.

Solution: Host some kind of event to get people on MTA:VC, and try to encourage them to start becoming more active again. As for administration, go through the current administration and relieve those from their duties that can no longer hold them, and set up interviews with possible administration members that are experienced and highly-qualified for the job. Make sure they are active and promote the server the best they can.

VC has enough admins, although alot of them idle quite a bit.

[Fabio]

Problem: MTA:VC has a serious lack of users and administration right now.

Solution: Host some kind of event to get people on MTA:VC, and try to encourage them to start becoming more active again. As for administration, go through the current administration and relieve those from their duties that can no longer hold them, and set up interviews with possible administration members that are experienced and highly-qualified for the job. Make sure they are active and promote the server the best they can.

This is why I made the Olympics idea, I'm going to discuss it with MIB.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=25069.0