ARPD

[~Legend~]

Well, you can use the same username and password each time but you still have to validate 3 different sites. You must sign up again each time. 

[SugarD]

1. http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=34&topic=4173.0
2. ARPD and Argo's domains used to be together. They aren't anymore. See my post in the topic in #1.
3. Yes, the logins are separate.
4. Please don't comment on database issues plaguing both sites if you have no idea what that means. If they use separate databases, sharing the same domain would by no means effect it. In fact, if the ARPD subdomain was on a separate server from the main Argo domain's server, then nothing could take down both sites aside from an attack on the network, or them somehow losing their webhost/domain host, both of which are highly unlikely in this case and could happen regardless in their current forms. As for them sharing databases, when I say share, I don't mean completely and entirely. I mean just the user-based info, or atleast the login info and *maybe* the profiles/signatures. Unless that specific part of the database was somehow corrupted or damaged, there's no way all the logins could be affected at once, and even most forum mods now-a-days don't even touch that part of the database directly at all.

Anyway, as I said in #1's listed topic, and have repeated numerous times before, they used to share the same domain. I'm guessing this was changed due to heavy loads on a single domain, or even the bandwidth being exceeded. There are alternatives though to bring them back together without causing that again. Simply put, they share the same webhosting service, but each site is run on SEPARATE servers that are linked to the domain. That way the ARPD subdomain connects to the ARPD server, and the Argo domain on it's own connects to the Argo server. This should also resolve bandwidth issues, unless the webhost is screwed up enough to measure it by activity to the domain and it's subdomains itself rather than to the "website" domain(s) or each server.

Now I don't know the specifics, so my points are easily arguable, but please keep in mind that they are just generic ideas for the topic. I have alot of experience in this field, but I do not know your hosting information personally. I know Sauron hosts the servers, but I don't know anything about your domains, subdomains, or webhosting services themselves.

[rJCaiG]

I could see this working with a little planning and design.

[SugarD]

Agreed. I'd like to see the ARPD site being visually updated first though, before links are distorted by any moves... xD

[~Legend~]

Yes, referring to Sugar's post, this is exactly what I meant. Profiles and logins can be shared but they both should have different home sites (linking off from AR's main site). Yes, these two sites were temporarily linked once but possibly due to heavy server loads and content, had to be made separate. Would be great to bring it back again.

[Davron]

IMO,Some thing might be Private that ARPD might not want Citizen Know and i think Although it is a good idea they are way too much things that ARPD want only ARPD members to know

[CBFasi]

I do know the fact that arpd forum is seperate from main forum has actually meant that for a few days argonath did not shut down when the main forums AND main server went down.

I even went as far as making a tempoaray section in the ARPD forum with total access to cover Argo news and information during the period the otthers were down.

If they had been totaly linked up we would of lost Argonath without the ability to contact our players.

I do agree that work needs doing to the ARPD website, but the forum is in constant use and is far more stable than the main forums.
I do not see moving ARPD to a sub-section of the main forums as any benefit, in fact will likely cause more problems.

[SugarD]

I don't think he meant an actual subsection for ARPD CBFasi, I think he means linking the logins, and moving the main site back to the .com with links to each one between them. All of this could easily be accomplished with little modding, aside from the very first. A simple link to each site from the other could EASILY be established on the website and forum of each without any complication just through modding very simple parts of the sources. I could even do it if you like lol.

IMO,Some thing might be Private that ARPD might not want Citizen Know and i think Although it is a good idea they are way too much things that ARPD want only ARPD members to know

I don't think you quite understand the topic. We aren't merging the forums into one first off, and secondly, the citizens still won't see anything they aren't supposed to if this goes through. We aren't talking about editing content, just locations, logins, and links.

[~Legend~]

IMO,Some thing might be Private that ARPD might not want Citizen Know and i think Although it is a good idea they are way too much things that ARPD want only ARPD members to know

Thankyou Sugar, I can see that you completely understand my point. This is EXACTLY what I mean Sugar, and I am also willing to do it if the site wishes!
And Davron, you know that citizens (and even general internet users) can access ARPD forums very easily, just can't add anything to it. Most things are easily accessible now as it is!

CBFasi, that's not what I mean! Both forums will be safe. I won't go into more depth as I have already said this in my INITIAL POST and Sugar has also expalined it numerous times.
Thankyou very much for this Sugar!

[Kitsune]

Hello All Citizens,
I was thinking that it would be a good idea to merge the ARPD site + Forum with the Argonath RPG site + Forum.
They could be connected by tabs etc.
Wouldn't it be simpler if they shared the same username & password as they are two sister sites in general terms.

Well, you can use the same username and password each time but you still have to validate 3 different sites. You must sign up again each time. 

There is a function called Remember Password, so you shouldn't need to login each time.

Argonath Police Department (ARPD) is an Group like others on Argonath like gangs, mafias and Clans. Should we connect all Groups to the main site? No. I dont think thats needed at all..

Indeed.

If merging will mean that we use the same profile information, then that's another reason why I don't support this idea. In the ARPD forum, you would not necessarily use the same signature, avatar and other such things as with this forum. There is also the issue of the forum ranking system as the ARPD one is totally different to what we have here. However, if this is not the case, I still don't see a valid reason for merging the forums.

[~Legend~]

There is a function called Remember Password, so you shouldn't need to login each time.

If merging will mean that we use the same profile information, then that's another reason why I don't support this idea. In the ARPD forum, you would not necessarily use the same signature, avatar and other such things as with this forum. There is also the issue of the forum ranking system as the ARPD one is totally different to what we have here. However, if this is not the case, I still don't see a valid reason for merging the forums.

Lol, we are not talking about the "remember password" option. That's not the point. Even if you use the remember option, they are two separate logins!  What we mean is that, both sites share same login and some profile options. This saves time from swapping sites all the time, which becomes totally pointless. Forum ranking?? They can be different on the 2 sub-forums. Just because your rank on ARPD is say an "officer" doesn't mean you are known as a officer in AR Forums!

[Kitsune]

This saves time from swapping sites all the time, which becomes totally pointless.

What's so time consuming about "swapping"? Doesn't your browser support tabs? It takes only a second for me to "swap".

[SugarD]

He means going from viewing one site, to the other. Not literally loading the pages, but the process of getting to the site, logging in, and THEN looking at the info you wanted.

[Kitsune]

That is what I was reffering to...

He means going from viewing one site, to the other. Not literally loading the pages, but the process of getting to the site, logging in, and THEN looking at the info you wanted.

About the bolded text, it takes at most, a few seconds to "get to the site" (it can be as simple as a click of a button) and even if it did long (if this is the case then your not using your browser well), you only need to get the indexes once until you no longer have them listed on your tabs and of logging in, there shouldn't be any unless you're constantly clearing your cookies.

So long as stability isn't affected, I don't have any big issue with a merge, I just don't see it as necessary as the current system is quite effective and I'm happy with it.

[~Legend~]

Thankyou once again, [LA]SugarD.
Yes, my browser does support tabs, I just thought it would be more convenient if we merge the sites.
Thinking in the longterm, it would make the server even more efficient. It is good as it is, but a few tweaks here and there won't do it any harm.