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[Antonio.]

I'd be a happy goose.

[Wash]

Yes but this issue really has been dissolved. Everyone has been unbanned and all is back to normal.

We would appreciate it if this arguement were to stop as its really only a small matter that has been put behind us.

[Romeo]

You brought that up only to try and make me reconsider your addition to our enemies. Just like you only showed that collage of screenshots in a futile attempt to try and give yourself the moral upperhand to ensure that Corleone would not add you to their enemies list as you shot at them...

Pull your head out of the sky. I don't care if you add us to enemies, that is not the problem here. The problem is that this whole situation is your fault. The only reason that Ancelotti were at Gvardia Corp at that moment was in relation to ANOTHER group who we have been having hastle with. We had no intentions of attacking Corleone and we didn't. Dean Corleone and some other Corleone attacked Georgio, We returned fire and the Sultan drove off while the Corleone's in the other car were blown up.

Several Ancelotti members demonstrated a desire in joining the recent occupation of Gvardia HQ, I declined their offer as I know that helping one ally (I had been told by Daniel that Ancelotti and Corleone were allies a few weeks ago and by candidly observing your attitude towards Corleone personally I felt that you were more or less allies myself) against another. You should have taken the same approach and not tried to be a hero and intervene between Corleone-Gvardia. You would have been shot at any Corleone for taking the Gvardia side as you are helping an enemy - common sense prevails.

Ancelotti and Corleone have been friendly for a long time due to my utmost respect for Daniel and his group, though when we were shot at twice in one week by Corleone a breaking of this pact of trust was surely to happen. I will not be the one to attempt to fix this as the problem is in no way my fault.

Actually I've had experience of dealing with occasional rulebreaking myself within Corleone when I was an admin and consequently  know the demeanor in which notorious ban evaders such as Junaid and Brave4Arnold have been forced to the unban request section whilst in the admin team. Frequently, I found that when more time is taken to explain the process of an unban request to the player, the chances of the player ban evading again nose-dive. After all, playing like a regular player without ban evading and the trepidation of constantly ban evading is far more desirable to the player involved. A little empathy goes a long way. I've also been vigilant across the unban request section and am weary the ethos being applied by Gandalf when he has stumbled across groups such as =RM= who at had been clan banned and banned as a group from Argonath for more than a year, be unbanned on the basis that they do not try to cause chaos on the server. Please don't try and preach me the rules when I didn't even know who was ban evading. As shown in the logs Gimli provided, I had no idea it was LeoC therefore had no intention of him knowing that he was not going to post an unban request.

Apparently you mentioned to several Corleone's on MSN today that you know exactly who it was. Also, it's a little bit coincidental that you spent most of the day in his company as I highly doubt the Corleone underboss randomly picks up newbies off the street.

Don't take my arguementative attitude here as a sort of plea for you to lift us from your enemies, as I believe that's where we belong at this moment in time as do you. Until Corleone resolves all of these issues it is currently facing we have no intentions of maintaining a friendly relationship. As I said, you completely missed my point.

Alright people, I have read ENOUGH of all this bickering and moaning.

This is CORLEONE'S Topic, not a topic for Ancelotti and Gvardia to come "discuss" in about anything.

Any further useless posts and provocation will be dealt with.
This topic is here for Corleone members to post in, not for others to come provoke and make problems within.

As long as no reply is given to this post, I will not again post regarding the situation tonight.

[midget]

Yes but this issue really has been dissolved. Everyone has been unbanned and all is back to normal.

We would appreciate it if this arguement were to stop as its really only a small matter that has been put behind us.

I totally agree..even though I got wrongfully banned..

Romeo..I actually thought you had manner and such...clearly not..Stop posting here for the 3rd time

[Violet]

Doesn't matter, who ever was there "taking" over Gvardia Corpoartion was an enemy. As for me stalking you, you are wrong. That day I logged in and two of our low ranked members, Strelok Gvardia and Dexi Gvardia told me that they had been threatened to be killed by Marlen, and by Corleone members.

You are Antonio_Gvardia ingame, yes or no? Antonio_Gvardia followed me to Willowfield ammunation.

I managed to speak to Marlen and those two members did in fact stalk you guys, which was wrong of them to do.

Well you are just shooting yourself in the foot in this argument if you are Antonio_Gvardia - which reading from your signature looks pretty damn likely.

I approached you with some Gvardia members when you were coming out of Willow field ammunation and I said "Hey, I heard you been threatening my boys."

Indeed. You did follow me from Corleone HQ where you initially were parked at the bottom of the hill and told your armed group members to drive further upwards before stalking me to Willowfield ammunation.

After that you hopped onto your NRG with another CM member who was with you and you stated in main chat that you didn't see what I typed. I told you what I said through main chat. After that, I went to Verdant Bluffs, and I saw a shit load of people there, I didn't know what was going and decided not to check it out.

Correct. You were simply taking too long to respond to my greeting. Therefore I left the area before reading your message.

I was afk for a while and when I came back, someone PM'd me that Corleone is taking over Corp HQ with the help of Frank Hawk and his people. I was the only Gvardia on at this moment and, I got spammed like shit with /sms with "London is burning".

I was not aware of you being AFK but the Ballas had taken over Gvardia HQ and after a few Gvardia's had gone and the FBI had arrived on scene, we decided to cause a Ballas-style riot and torch down the place. We believed that the 'London's burning'
reference was humorous at that moment in time but I felt it may be received in the wrong sense therefore I asked people on the CB not to do it however by this time a few must have sent it.

After a while some Gvardia members came on, and I told Romeo the situation so he decided to come and help us. That's the whole part of the San Fierro alliance we got going on. When I talked to you inside hq you told us "Cease fire is broken" so here we are now.

He couldn't really help you considering that the particular RP was over by the time Gvardia had entered for the second time. I told you that the ceasefire was dissolved considering Gvardia's belligerent actions towards Corleone for example the stalking of our members by Gvardia members in Los Santos, the threatening tone of voice used against me by yourself and the uninvited visit to our HQ prior to the first time you entered Gvardia HQ.

[Romeo]

I totally agree..even though I got wrongfully banned..

Romeo..I actually thought you had manner and such...clearly not..Stop posting here for the 3rd time

If my posts recieve an arguementative reply then I'm going to continue posting. If you want me to stop posting here then stop replying to what I write.

[Antonio.]

Indeed. You did follow me from Corleone HQ where you initially were parked at the bottom of the hill and told your armed group members to drive further upwards before stalking me to Willowfield ammunation.
Correct. You were simply taking too long to respond to my greeting. Therefore I left the area before reading your message.

Yes, I came down there, trying to talk to you. In /cb I asked where is Violet? My members told me right in front of me. I was bugged and couldn't see everyone, so that's why I relogged. When I relogged I /area'd you and saw that you were at Willowfield ammu, so I ordered my members to drive up there.
I was not aware of you being AFK but the Ballas had taken over Gvardia HQ and after a few Gvardia's had gone and the FBI had arrived on scene, we decided to cause a Ballas-style riot and torch down the place.
[/quote] You reacted wrong here, you should of had a meeting with a high Rank in Gvardia to discuss this.
He couldn't really help you considering that the particular RP was over by the time Gvardia had entered for the second time. I told you that the ceasefire was dissolved considering Gvardia's belligerent actions towards Corleone for example the stalking of our members by Gvardia members in Los Santos, the threatening tone of voice used against me by yourself and the uninvited visit to our HQ prior to the first time you entered Gvardia HQ.
[/quote]The first time, It was only me in the HQ talking to you. Later on another member went in there, i can't remember who. Romeo did help, we got our boys together, and went onto the Corp. FBI told us we were allowed to go in and shoot you guys since it was our property, but when we did go in there, there was only 5-7 people left.
I dont want to make MadBoi mad so I am going to drop this.

[Devin]

If my posts recieve an arguementative reply then I'm going to continue posting. If you want me to stop posting here then stop replying to what I write.

Drop the attitude, I politely asked you to refrain from making posts like these earlier, if you wish to continue, I will gladly call a high ranked Administrator to have you dealt with since you wont listen to polite gestures.

[Wash]

If my posts recieve an arguementative reply then I'm going to continue posting. If you want me to stop posting here then stop replying to what I write.

If we do not reply to your bullshit, your bullshit looks true and we look like the wrongdoers.

Please have some decency and refrain from further posting.

[Violet]

Pull your head out of the sky. I don't care if you add us to enemies, that is not the problem here. The problem is that this whole situation is your fault. The only reason that Ancelotti were at Gvardia Corp at that moment was in relation to ANOTHER group who we have been having hastle with. We had no intentions of attacking Corleone and we didn't. Dean Corleone and some other Corleone attacked Georgio, We returned fire and the Sultan drove off while the Corleone's in the other car were blown up.

You helped Gvardia against Corleone, what the hell did you expect?

Ancelotti and Corleone have been friendly for a long time due to my utmost respect for Daniel and his group, though when we were shot at twice in one week by Corleone a breaking of this pact of trust was surely to happen. I will not be the one to attempt to fix this as the problem is in no way my fault.

Nobody asked you to try and do anything. I'll really enjoy this

Apparently you mentioned to several Corleone's on MSN today that you know exactly who it was. Also, it's a little bit coincidental that you spent most of the day in his company as I highly doubt the Corleone underboss randomly picks up newbies off the street.

Your use of sources in your recent posts here have been nothing but laughable. I can't even take what you are saying seriously due to the fact that you consider an hour to be most of the day. He was in the Corleone channel when I joined, if anyone is in the Corleone channel they are only there because they are Corleone friends otherwise they are SRU members who get banned ten seconds after joining.

Don't take my arguementative attitude here as a sort of plea for you to lift us from your enemies, as I believe that's where we belong at this moment in time as do you. Until Corleone resolves all of these issues it is currently facing we have no intentions of maintaining a friendly relationship. As I said, you completely missed my point.

Neither do I have any apprehension nor do I have any care for who becomes a Corleone enemy. Corleone enemies do not last as de facto Corleone enemies for long periods of times for good reason.

As long as no reply is given to this post, I will not again post regarding the situation tonight.

Some of the stuff I've heard out of your mouth tonight has been a lot of hot air, so in the interest of climate change, I don't want to hear any more crap from you. Just accept the fact that you've sealed your own fate. I won't be discussing this further - the issue of the Corleone members aiding a ban-evader was resolved a long time ago when Gimli posted the chat log, it's nothing but crystal clear that you wanted Corleone not to be your enemies for your perfidy. It's fine - you chose Gvardia over Corleone when you could have gone neutral.

If you got anything more to say to me, use PM...

[Dutchy]

Stop the discussion!!

DON'T YOU SEE IT's MAKING US FALLING APART!?!?!? 


Dutchy's prespective:

Old Corleone member(?); Leo, banevaded, Ryan knew about it, other Corleone members continued RP with the banevader, Gimli thought everyone who RPed knew about the banevader, everyone got (temp)banned, useless and topic page increasing discussion starts.

K?

Now PLEASE just stop the endless discussing! This is going nowhere.. This blasphemy!... THIS IS MADNESS.

[Kenny.]

If my posts recieve an arguementative reply then I'm going to continue posting. If you want me to stop posting here then stop replying to what I write.

remember when you cried when people posted in your topic...

[Vince]

Because the admins online follow orders without asking questions. No Corleones actually knew there was a ban evader, except for one of them. Of course, we won't see xcasio coming down here, offering an apology and admitting the mistake.

You're full of shit, no-one was "following orders without asking questions". Keep your ridiculous bullshit to yourself before you open your big mouth, especially when you're talking about me big man. To be frank I'm tired of your ever-lasting excuses everytime you end up stuck in a corner.

I honestly have no clue how groups such as the late '10 Corleone and SA:MP Ancelotti ever obtained and continue to retain official status. It's pathetic, and sick to watch. I thought official groups were there to set an example to newer players.

[Dutchy]

Okok, you gize just have fun swearing at each other and burning each other, I'm going to bed...

[Devin]

You're full of shit, no-one was "following orders without asking questions". Keep your ridiculous bullshit to yourself before you open your big mouth, especially when you're talking about me big man. To be frank I'm tired of your ever-lasting excuses everytime you end up stuck in a corner.

Vince, I am dissapointed in you, seeing an admin speaking like this over the forums, I suggest you perhaps show some respect to fellow admins.
Please dont come here and also moan about random things and false accusations.