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Reply #300 on: June 25, 2009, 07:10:55 pm
Well i still stick with not allowing it... the only issue is in Argo theres like 85% of the population is in gangs and mafias,
the other 15% is in businesses and other forms of work who do not want the whole gangwar issue which is pretty unfair tho...

theres no chance there would be enough people to stand against it when you see the amount of people who want to shoot others...   -.-



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Reply #301 on: June 25, 2009, 10:15:26 pm
Gang war can take place... That is not something "omg! that is deathmatch"... But the participants should be responsible for the gang war not to be turned into deathmatch...

If both sides agree and finished gang war successfully - no problems at all... What means successfully? Simple: organized... Gang members stop fight as soon as leaders announced them about it... No any personal flame and provokes with insult if other side (gang) is offended... Here you should know the difference between "role playing" (playing a role) and "real life offense"... Like some people tell us "i swear at them cos gangs do it in real life"... In real life gangs do that to offend really...

What was my idea? Yes, gangs control themselves TOGETHER... Without involving "hey admins watch this!"... Presenting admins as "official spectators" on gang wars - say good bye to the roleplay as it is...

Gang war should not be started by one side...

- Hey why the fuck you attacked us?
- That was a gang war relax!

Wrong way... The opponent gang can have their own plans and roleplay... Not to ruin it - modulate a situation, like setting the place for meeting with playing provokes... That can be just asking for meeting about "you are our problem in this area"... The other gang will understand that your gang is "aggressive"... Such things can be a sign for a possible gang war... Possible! This is the main idea... Gang war is possible but NOT necessary that the meeting will finish with the gang war... Perhaps gangs will make some deal or just try each other on other stuff...

Settings like "Attention Gvardia and Stracci please arrive to the Disneyland for the gang war! Admins spectating will be appreciated" are a total idiotic system of gang wars I can imagine...

Wanna gang war? ok lets try with the freedom in choice of gangs... But... Gangs will be responsible for that... From members to leaders/gang moderators...



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Reply #302 on: June 25, 2009, 10:19:57 pm
Settings like "Attention Gvardia and Stracci please arrive to the Disneyland for the gang war! Admins spectating will be appreciated" are a total idiotic system of gang wars I can imagine...

I could not agree more, that is a very silly system.
Both groups agreed to have a gang fight before (Stracci and Gvardia), and is was out of the way. However, admins stopped the war with "gangwar = ban" warnings all across screen.

That is why I went for, in my ideas, a system that is mostly self-moderated within gangs and between each leader.

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Reply #303 on: June 25, 2009, 10:21:43 pm
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Wanna gang war? ok lets try with the freedom in choice of gangs... But... Gangs will be responsible for that... From members to leaders/gang moderators...

Does this mean we can have Gang-Wars now?

If it does, could Gandalf or Aragorn please respond and write: This Petition has been officially accepted! or something  :evil:



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Reply #304 on: June 25, 2009, 10:27:40 pm
I vote yes, i believe its needed for the roleplay and to see what familly is the strongerst one.



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Reply #305 on: June 25, 2009, 10:51:30 pm
Lets summarize.

Panda's suggestion seems to incorporate all needed for gang to self-moderate their members, and to know which groups are having 'enemy' status.

As soon as we get valid complaints that the server is tuning in to a 24/7 fighting zone, or the fighting gangs can not control their members the experiment will be stopped. We will be very strong on gangs that do not respect each other or disregard the agreements.

Its up to the groups to make it work, do not disappoint us.

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Reply #306 on: June 25, 2009, 10:54:22 pm
Its up to the groups to make it work, do not disappoint us.

We will try our hardest to maintain a good standard. :)

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Reply #307 on: June 25, 2009, 10:55:19 pm
Thank you Gandalf.

We wont.

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Reply #308 on: June 25, 2009, 10:55:34 pm
Then I would like to declare this Petition OFFICIALLY DONE!

Thanks everyone for all your support!

Could someone make a topic at SAMP groups and write everything there what we just agreed with?




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Reply #309 on: June 25, 2009, 10:56:56 pm
Will do.

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Reply #310 on: June 25, 2009, 10:59:58 pm
Awesome!



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Reply #311 on: June 25, 2009, 11:03:02 pm
Just wait for Panda´s Validation topic ;)



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Reply #312 on: June 25, 2009, 11:04:19 pm
Awsome..

Should be good when I am hopefully unbanned. :D



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Reply #313 on: June 25, 2009, 11:22:32 pm

I was thinking about it a long time ago, made a topic in Clans HQ to hear any thoughts about gang wars but did not get any respond from group leaders of Clan HQ...


i was looking for this, but still didnt found where it is,
give a link plz someone

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Reply #314 on: June 25, 2009, 11:26:40 pm
Gangwars/Conflicts & Validations
Post away gang leaders, and we can get the ball rolling.

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