SWAT weaponequipping during a shoot-out

[Y2JFaN]

we RPed a simple bank robbery (Not really took anything or harmed anyone but the cops coming at us) and they had whole buncha swat and they were definetley refilling somehow because all they did was go to top floor after being shot and came back with more ammo and more armour.

Fix for this: Let civils and all others 'store' a weapon or something into their pack or something.

Maybe: /buy pack (RP of course) then you can store guns, maybe weed and heroin also?

[JDC]

Fix for this: Let civils and all others 'store' a weapon or something into their pack or something.

Obviously you are forgetting that we can all pull weapons out of our asses, criminals also, not just cops.


As for those who are moaning about FBI, shut with the f**king moaning about us and do the universe a favor by not wasting carbon molecules!

You don't have shit loads of rules and regulations to follow, we do.
You don't have very long training to go through and months of waiting as Cadet, we do.
You don't risk facing major punishment for offenses that can be seen as minor, we do.
You don't get shat on simply because of the Fed status, we do.

Happy now?

[Cane]

Hey, here's a thought: Let's all focus on combat, instead of the roleplay! Yeah, because we ALL love the combat more than the roleplay! YES, BECAUSE ARGONATH IS A SERVER WHERE YOU CAN KILL, KILL, AND KILL, BECAUSE IT'S NOT MEANT FOR ROLEPLAY!

Seriously people, let's open our eyes, shall we? You fellows are arguing about how the law enforcement agencies have unrealistic power against the criminals, in relation to what happens in real life. Here's a question for you: In what township, city, district, region, or state in America have a ga-fucking-billion shootouts in a day? Don't like the unrealisticness? Argonath isn't for you.

[Pandalink]

I play Argonath purely because it is unrealistic. Why would you want a game to be realistic?
Reality is shit. If it wasn't, I wouldn't be on this server hiding from it.

[Cane]

I play Argonath purely because it is unrealistic. Why would you want a game to be realistic?
Reality is shit. If it wasn't, I wouldn't be on this server hiding from it.

Amen to that.

[Fedrico]

You don't have shit loads of rules and regulations to follow, we do.

We don't? We can't return after death, you can. We can only use five cars, you can use infinite. We can't go on forever because of the cost of weapons or gasoline, you can. We can never gain anything from being criminals, you earn money from being cops.

You don't have very long training to go through and months of waiting as Cadet, we do.

You don't seem to learn anything except how to DM, about a week ago I RPed with Agent Curse and Agent BattleKolta, and Curse fucked it all up, as usual. Isn't RP vital for an FBI Agent? In that case the training couldn't have been that long, and therefore the reason for your waiting is because you are ineffective.

You don't risk facing major punishment for offenses that can be seen as minor, we do.

I haven't seen any FBI being banned from the server for driving 100km/h in the city.

You don't get shat on simply because of the Fed status, we do.

No, you get shat on because you think that you are superior to all the criminals because you have been in a queue for two months. The fact is, that many criminals are laughing at many agents' poor knowledge of common RP. Want to get rid of it? Learn the FBI cadets to RP properly rather than teaching them how to use a M4 more effectively.



Point is, you have a huge advantage over criminals, and we can never gain anything but fun from being criminal. You don't understand that you are digging your own grave, if the criminals disappear you wont have anything to do = you will get bored. Even it out and it will be more stuff to do for you = more cops will be needed = more fun, and we have a bigger chance to escape = we don't lose all our money. Win/win situation?

[Wolfe]

Doesn't matter, if you die, just fill it up and rejoin the battle? You'll still win in the end.

I can't see the fairness in it, we need to pay for everything and we can't win, even if we kill you ten times you return and return and return until we are dead. Soon there wont be as many criminals as usual, and your special teams for organised DM wont be needed.

Yeah, but in your case it should be called UNLIMITED WEAPONS AND LIVES.

Uhm, and? I can't see your point.
It's not very hard to kill people with unlimited free weapons, armour and lives. In fact, you are the one who is pwned, because you need 500 advantages to even out the odds.

Well, You think a Police Department would only have 5 SWAT Operatives ? *sigh* And btw, Some of you need to learn that OFFICERS, DO NOT, GET BLOODY FREE ARMOUR. They only get a Deagle, SMG, Nitestick, And pepper Spray..

[Stanley_Taylor]

FBI has nothing to do with this topic so drop it. The only ideas we have now are first-aid kits and some kind of glue they use in the army that gains a little bit of health. Anyone got any better ideas?

[Y2JFaN]

Obviously you are forgetting that we can all pull weapons out of our asses, criminals also, not just cops.


As for those who are moaning about FBI, shut with the f**king moaning about us and do the universe a favor by not wasting carbon molecules!

You don't have shit loads of rules and regulations to follow, we do.Can't endure the heat? then GTFO of the kitchen111oneone!!!
You don't have very long training to go through and months of waiting as Cadet, we do. That's all you have to do though, and you just admitted it. Training and waiting. Training = preparing for situations and increasing your gunning skills. Waiting = just waiting. May I see this soo hard labor your milking for every post?
You don't risk facing major punishment for offenses that can be seen as minor, we do. Yes, we do. We can't get in trains, kill all cops we see (Unlike cops to criminals), we can't return after death, we can't use planes to escape, we can't have more than 1 chance per crime. See, when you actually look into it, it balances out doesn't it?
You don't get shat on simply because of the Fed status, we do. Please, don't give me that. We have cops every day complaining of non RP, killing them, or even cops wanting to have an added advantage! And we do get ''shat'' on.

Happy now?

No, not really. Stop acting like you have so much importance and have so many rules and your soo good to be in the FBI.. because truthfully, I can become FBI too. stop this fighting, be cop for every time im online, learn procedures, get good with guns and shooting, and just wait. You don't have to do that much.

I'm done with the talk of FBI... @ Paper: Read my SA:MP ideas topic.

[TheRock]

We don't? We can't return after death, you can. We can only use five cars, you can use infinite. We can't go on forever because of the cost of weapons or gasoline, you can. We can never gain anything from being criminals, you earn money from being cops.
You don't seem to learn anything except how to DM, about a week ago I RPed with Agent Curse and Agent BattleKolta, and Curse f**ked it all up, as usual. Isn't RP vital for an FBI Agent? In that case the training couldn't have been that long, and therefore the reason for your waiting is because you are ineffective.
I haven't seen any FBI being banned from the server for driving 100km/h in the city.
No, you get shat on because you think that you are superior to all the criminals because you have been in a queue for two months. The fact is, that many criminals are laughing at many agents' poor knowledge of common RP. Want to get rid of it? Learn the FBI cadets to RP properly rather than teaching them how to use a M4 more effectively.



Point is, you have a huge advantage over criminals, and we can never gain anything but fun from being criminal. You don't understand that you are digging your own grave, if the criminals disappear you wont have anything to do = you will get bored. Even it out and it will be more stuff to do for you = more cops will be needed = more fun, and we have a bigger chance to escape = we don't lose all our money. Win/win situation?

You're very wrong my friend... the rule of 5 cars in each pursuit is removed You can use unlimited too. (Rules topic is not updated.)

[JDC]

Everyone that thinks they cannot have fun because the Cops have an advantage needs to get brain surgery.

Look at the new players who come here to the Server and go on crime sprees, they are making something more sensible out of their lives by having fun keeping the cops busy instead of being total moaners on the forums going "ADVANTAGE THIS ADVANTAGE THAT". Advantage my ass, if you want equal Cop and Criminal, visit a TDM. Why is it that the criminals who aren't busy moaning still manage to have fun? Take a lesson from them.

[Pandalink]

Wars should basically be a TDM, its Blue Team vs. Orange Team after all.

[JDC]

This takes place on an RPG though, so things are different. Except in a gang war between two Mafias without the cops interfering.

[Pancher]

Some thoughts..

Why blame SWAT when Criminals escape police in cars, while driver stops the car outside a Pizza Stuck and the passenger types /enter (still inside the vehicle), /buy meal (inside) and then /exit and back to combat or escape to the driver who drove around the block, then they head and do same as ammo-nation. Cops been up there as the whole time..
Script abuse?
Do cops moan about it?

Same when "criminals" hangs outside there HQ in a shoot out, enters the HQ and spamming /buy milk inside there bar and then exits again, same scenario as (SWAT exits and get armour and then gets back in again?)
Or when criminal dose same as above but /load weapon..... in "middle of shoot-out"?
Script abuse?
Do cops moan about it?

What should cops then get to make it "fair" when criminals dose anything of the 2 options above which they do regularly?

Also where is it stated "criminals may not heal in combat"?
As far as i'm concern they may..

And an other thought...

Usage of medics who are on the scen of a figth and either Police or criminal uses the medic? is it unrealistic that you get medical treatment and the feel better or is this a kind of "heal abuse" scenario to ?

I believe it's at this moment very fair for all "sides" if you think about all views and options each "side" has.. Just use your imagine and the recourse that dose exist on different tactics to survive both as cop or criminal.. Look at Joe (Nitrox) as an example.. Before he commits a crime he already made several escape routes ready to get out of there. Use your brain and you can survive cops or criminals..

And hey, have cops moan about criminals calling an driver (often an member in same group mafia/gang) to drive the train away from cops which is unstoppable for cops since they cannot make an roadblock to stop it? And it's very hard to kill the criminal who is a passenger due the location he is placed when used /getin command.

Over and out!  :m4: :sig:

[Pandalink]

Also where is it stated "criminals may not heal in combat"?
As far as i'm concern they may..

Really?
Cool! D:

And hey, have cops moan about criminals calling an driver (often an member in same group mafia/gang) to drive the train away from cops which is unstoppable for cops since they cannot make an roadblock to stop it?

Suspect the train driver. Roadblock not needed.