Revengekilling - Lock the topic for Argonath sake please

[Jamal]

go on police duty you can kill the nigga who killed u the other day!

This is the answer everyone. Requesting topic lock

[Gandalf]

This is the answer everyone. Requesting topic lock

No it is not. Going on police duty to revenge kill is still revenge killing.

[Aksel]

I got a feeling this thread is based on moan  :roll:

[BlackEagle]

Revenge killing:

One player killing or attacking another player (self of through requesting others to do so) because of his previous actions in game.
There is no time limit on revenge killing.

Ganton Ballas came to our turf, and shouted around "WE OWN IT, Ganton Ballas Owns this Turf!" when none of us was there. One of my hoodrats has just informed me about this via MSN, now please, for gods sake, don't tell me thats revenge killing too... Is that?

[Seskom]

Ganton Ballas came to our turf, and shouted around "WE OWN IT, Ganton Ballas Owns this Turf!" when none of us was there. One of my hoodrats has just informed me about this via MSN, now please, for gods sake, don't tell me thats revenge killing too... Is that?

You got what you were after Lance, coniform from main admin that Revengekill has no limit and this wasnt cause they were on your turf that was cause you told Me theres screen in beginning of topic that you told the reason was Revenge kill.

[Xander]

Is it revenge killing also, if you get low HP but do not die, but then later kill him?
If so, then I am damn lucky for not beeing banned, I have had this many times.

No, because you never actually died in that roleplay. You can retaliate due to previous roleplay if you survive. Its quite actual. I mean many people would go after their killer if they(victim) were put in the hospital in critical condition and the case was dismissed.
If you died on the other hand. You cannot return to that roleplay because you are...well dead. Then that would be Revenge killing, returning to roleplay situation after death.

[Pandalink]

This only apply if all group members are dead. For example, if we get in a war, killing 5 out of 7 Araatus,

Clearly hypothetical then :   D.
<.<

or from the moment 2 of them kills all other in this example Gvardia's. ( lol right i know)

What you mean like every time?  <.<  >.>
:D

But seriously, weve got a huge problem In Argonath Gang War System.

What, that its been effectively inactive since December 2009?


Whilst the validations system is effectively inactive, since its activity is directly and clearly linked to my own ability and/or willingness to work it, self-policing should still be enforced.
In general, it is accepted that several hours later, and certainly the next day or later, all deaths are reset and revenge killing just doesn't happen.
Besides, revenge kill cannot really be applied to groups. If a single person kills another, then the person respawns that play session and directly goes back with new guns, then that is revenge killing. A groupmember respawning is returning after death.
An entire day passed. It sounds to me like either the story you told is not complete, or the group you were fighting are crybabies and did not like losing (as they evidently were) and decided to use admins to get what they wanted (mind you, it does work quite well as shown by this very situation).

[Cofiliano]

Clearly hypothetical then :   D.
<.<

Yea, we mostly finish all of you.

What you mean like every time?  <.<  >.>
:D

You do know that except that time, like 365 days ago, when you storm our HQ before validations, (when you all got demoted for it ), you never won a war against us?

No it is not. Going on police duty to revenge kill is still revenge killing.

I am sorry for saying this, but can you please inform, like 98 percent of admins, that this is  revenge killing. Cause not a single one ( and trust me i asked every single one), didn't classified it as revenge killing, together with Vince who likes forcing and pointing it so much, when ever I suggest him that some guy went on /duty, just so he can hunt the people who killed him, 5  min before.



About the subject-In my book, revenge killing=attacking someone who killed you in the last 24-48 hours.
Your gang members or mobsters goes after the guy that kills you= Not revenge killing, but Vendetta. And although they are synonyms they got totally different meaning on Argonath/Internet etc. 

I mean common, even street hooligan go to claim vendetta, not to mention Gangs, and without a will to even talk about Mafia's and other Higher criminal groups.

[Pandalink]

If someone kills you and you return, alone, the next day to kill the very man that killed you "because he killed me" then sure, thats revenge killing. If you go with your group to attack another group who killed you then thats different, thats fine. You're not singling out a person and going to kill him for revenge, you're engaging in a gang fight.

you never won a war against us?

Well from our side you never won a war against us.
Lets just agree to disagree :3.

[Cofiliano]

Well from our side you never won a war against us.
Lets just agree to disagree :3.

That's why you cancel validations. Cause you weren't constantly slaughtered, right ?

[Pandalink]

That's why you cancel validations. Cause you weren't constantly slaughtered, right ?

No we do it "cuzurnab". :B
Also we ran out of money, which is why we have absolutely no money now.

[Cofiliano]

No we do it "cuzurnab". :B
Also we ran out of money, which is why we have absolutely no money now.

The "cuzurnab" attitude made you ran out of money, not wars, Panda.

[Pandalink]

No, being a criminal in general ran us out of money, the wars just quickened the process.

[Antonio.]

I see what admins mean... You cannot attack them because they killed you, as your bringing the same character into the RP. So you would have to provoke a war to be able to attack.

[Gandalf]

No, because you never actually died in that roleplay. You can retaliate due to previous roleplay if you survive. Its quite actual. I mean many people would go after their killer if they(victim) were put in the hospital in critical condition and the case was dismissed.
If you died on the other hand. You cannot return to that roleplay because you are...well dead. Then that would be Revenge killing, returning to roleplay situation after death.

Revenge killing is not limited to dying.

The origin of the prohibition to revenge kill lies in the basic rspect players should have for each other. While in a large community it is impossible that you like eeryone, basicly two opposing gangs could (and might) be friends.
A constant shootout and killing between them would destroy respect and friendship and replace it with hate and 'owning'.

Ideally two groups can have a mass conflict over a turf today, and tomorrow work together withour any bad feelings toward each other.
People forget that its a game, and nothing should be taken seriously.