SAMP Rules

[Daco]

O_O


No they can't.

[Vince]

Oh and not to mention, yes, criminals have no advantages. Just the fact they can choose three sports cars to buy and can completely tune which all out run a cop car as well as our little LVPD pursuit cars. I had a ride-along with Ben one night, and ALL three of the suspects we chased were in completely tuned with NOS. Not to mention cops are the ones who have to CHASE the criminals, criminals just have to focus on fighting back and getting away.

You're right. Cops have it so much better nowadays.


sarcasm. I might've believed it before the whole new car system, but honestly now... We can't use our "free" (note that we only make $100 per suspect we kill.) equipped weapons on a car that is 3 times faster than an average PD car, and can easily escape a Buffalo on a highway.


Yes, suspects can ride bikes if they're already on them and get suspected.. But it's obvious people don't realize that, so why don't we just take it away? :roll:

[itsonlyaname]

They can..?

What Oliver ment, was why can suspects not use bikes once they have fallen off said bike, when police chase suspects with such fast bikes that suspects are not allowed to use; Nrg, Pcj etc...

[Pandalink]

Just the fact they can choose three sports cars to buy

As can cops.

and ALL three of the suspects we chased were in completely tuned with NOS.

NOS cannot be saved (?), so they bought it seperately. Very unlikely and rare to see a car with it.

Not to mention cops are the ones who have to CHASE the criminals, criminals just have to focus on fighting back and getting away.

I'll give you that one, but thats an inherent point of cat and mouse type situations.

You're right. Cops have it so much better nowadays.

Ok.

sarcasm.

Not so much.

I might've believed it before the whole new car system,

That, when you think about it, slightly favours cops given that there are almost no cars around if yours blows up outside of LS. As for more people having sports cars.. you also have sports cars.
Nonetheless, a buffalo can catch most cars in SA with the exception of perhaps the infernus and the bullet. I should know, I use it in every single chase on both sides.

Yes, suspects can ride bikes if they're already on them and get suspected..

Which is a valid measure to stop you flying off a bike when suspected.
It does not mean that suspects can use bikes, because they can't.
I would support such rule exceptions as "cop bike driveby" if they had their own small rules. If suspects could use motorbikes, for example, I would have no issue with cops being able to driver driveby those. But the HPV is extremely fast (not to mention the other bikes that cops can use) and being able to driver driveby kills the chase very fast.


However, I should look at this bike driveby exception from my surprisingly experienced cop view too.
From the view of me as an on duty cop, it means I can drive my motorbike up behind suspects and totally destroy their car in seconds without much effort, as long as other things have been tried first, such as asking for surrender.
So in that respect, as Officer Panda, I quite like it.

[Jubin]

By stopping the car and shooting ?

As I understood, the bikercop can still then shoot me from his/her bike having a greater accuracy. Am I right?

I am just trying to figure out, if a bikercop has an advantage over a criminal on foot.

[BlackBird]

As I understood, the bikercop can still then shoot me from his/her bike having a greater accuracy. Am I right?

I am just trying to figure out, if a bikercop has an advantage over a criminal on foot.

The Cop can only Shoot the car, not the person.

[Gandalf]

Yes.

I could make such an incredibly long list of police scripts, but would find it difficult to even justify using bullet points for a list of suspect scripts. For criminal group scripts, I would not even need a list - there is only one and that is also shared with clans.

Then I guess there is no need for a gang war system or criminal commission.

[Frank_Hawk]

I Actually don't support this.
This will only lead to more moaning among criminals and the same discrimination that exists inside arpd when someone trys to rp something.
'Your not official why should we give a f**k" Would become the new slogan of criminal groups. Brilliant idea frank, lets endorse more moaning and problems then there currently are.

Blackbird, the concept is being brought in to provide additional support to SA:MP groups which have through the original topic of idea gained strong backing for implementation.  Criminal/group hierarchies vary and in turn contrast heavily in comparison to the SAPD where all ranks are fixed. The scope for discrimination is low and if raised would be countered through collated agreement of official group bodies. In relations to undermining other non-official groups, it will be inscribed that the role of the official groups will be to influence, help and guide other groups to prosperity.

[Gandalf]

Suspects can't ride bikes , okay , i understand its hard for cops to ram off someone from the bike , especially if the person in cause lags ... but a rule giving the cops ability to DDB on police bikes only is BS srsly.. Bring the bikes back to suspects then as an equal rule ... Soo many advantages for the cops , they have scripted ways of earning cash , now this easy way of killing anyone ? I was unarmed and wasn't moving when suddenly a cop on a motorbike came to me and started DDB'ing i reported him the admin told me its ok .. nice , ain't it ?

Its not a new rule...it has been in place since we opened SA:MP

[Jubin]

The Cop can only Shoot the car, not the person.

If from a bike you can only shoot other vehicles, why it is banned for criminals anyway? So they can't blow up other criminals or cops cars?

[Gandalf]

If from a bike you can only shoot other vehicles, why it is banned for criminals anyway? So they can't blow up other criminals or cops cars?

Because criminals do not chase suspects ?

[Vince]

As can cops.

Not in the SAPD, there is a very limited amount of situations as to where SAPD employees may use ridiculously fast sports car. One of them being a Buffalo, which isn't fast at all when it comes to their use on highways/freeways.

NOS cannot be saved (?), so they bought it seperately. Very unlikely and rare to see a car with it.

Correct, yet what's stopping a criminal from buying it seperately? It's very likely when it comes to the criminals with tuned out Bullets, of which I've seen three of in ONE patrol whateveryouwanttocallit with Ben.

I'll give you that one, but thats an inherent point of cat and mouse type situations.

None the less, thank you.

Ok.

I'm glad we see eye to eye.

Not so much.

From my standpoint, quite a bit of it.

That, when you think about it, slightly favours cops given that there are almost no cars around if yours blows up outside of LS. As for more people having sports cars.. you also have sports cars.
Nonetheless, a buffalo can catch most cars in SA with the exception of perhaps the infernus and the bullet. I should know, I use it in every single chase on both sides.

Exactly where your stance is invalid. You're correct, a Buffalo can catch up to most cars in SA, with the exception of a few. The only problem for us cops being, them few types of vehicles in SA can be purchased three times and used whenever a criminal wishes to logon to this server, with the new car system.

And don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the new car system. I'm just pointing out that cops are at little to none of an advantage against your average veteran criminal nowadays in a pursuit, so to say.

However, I should look at this bike driveby exception from my surprisingly experienced cop view too.
From the view of me as an on duty cop, it means I can drive my motorbike up behind suspects and totally destroy their car in seconds without much effort, as long as other things have been tried first, such as asking for surrender.
So in that respect, as Officer Panda, I quite like it.

But I thought you liked using a Buffalo, Officer Panda?

[Jubin]

Because criminals do not chase suspects ?

But they might chase each other in a roleplay situation. For example hitman chasing down his/her target.

[Freedom]

By stopping the car and shooting ?

If unarmed?

[BlackBird]

Blackbird, the concept is being brought in to provide additional support to SA:MP groups which have through the original topic of idea gained strong backing for implementation.  Criminal/group hierarchies vary and in turn contrast heavily in comparison to the SAPD where all ranks are fixed. The scope for discrimination is low and if raised would be countered through collated agreement of official group bodies. In relations to undermining other non-official groups, it will be inscribed that the role of the official groups will be to influence, help and guide other groups to prosperity.

Your missing what I'm saying.
I'm glad your able to be so optimistic about something that is going to fail.
Regardless what you do, criminals are gonna moan about something.
Until cops are removed completely from script support, criminals are gonna moan, regardless how even the admins it.