SAMP Rules

[Cofiliano]

Chill guys, we'll all simply go on duty and then everyone will be happy. And yes I am serious. Cause this is too much for anyone.

[Maxy]

Cool new rule.

It seems like a great idea to have cops use driver driveby on bikes. I mean, they obviously aren't good enough to use bikes to catch cars without drivebying

Cops obviously need these advantages, with the addition of a Hydra, a Hunter, /weaponequip, and now driver driveby, we keep seeing that no matter what is added, criminals just adapt and become even harder to kill. I'm just waiting to see what will be added next. Perhaps grenades for cop use, because criminals crowd together too much and cops can't kill them, if I correctly get the logic.


Or maybe I just really don't understand the logic in adding this.

[Squeak]

Cool new rule.

It seems like a great idea to have cops use driver driveby on bikes. I mean, they obviously aren't good enough to use bikes to catch cars without drivebying

Cops obviously need these advantages, with the addition of a Hydra, a Hunter, /weaponequip, and now driver driveby, we keep seeing that no matter what is added, criminals just adapt and become even harder to kill. I'm just waiting to see what will be added next. Perhaps grenades for cop use, because criminals crowd together too much and cops can't kill them, if I correctly get the logic.


Or maybe I just really don't understand the logic in adding this.

OMG STFU MOAN MORE JESUS

[Maxy]

The driveby rule falls under Glitching. There for it is not allowed, as the driver of a vehicle when using driveby gets an auto-aiming and can not be hurt due to a special action.
For cops on a motorcycle it is allowed (as Agent is doing in the picture) as otherwise they have no way of stopping a suspect by force. As a motorcycle it not easy to handle while shooting, the effect of the glitch is neutralized.

The general rules cover every situation, however it requires the player to use his brains. The more specific rules we will make. the more players will wave them to get advantage over others.

For this reason the rules will remain simple and general. If you wish to explore the limits, you will find them by admin punishment.

I think you and I both know what you did here, Gandalf.


Also, I would like to add that no matter what cops throw at us, a good criminal can handle all of it. So, bring it on SAPD.

[RafaDK]

Think from the cop's eyes instead of the spectator's eyes for a sec.:
"FUK MAI KAR IZ MESED UP AND HE 2 FAST"
"OH LUK AN ABANDONED KOP BIKE IMMA TAEK IT AN BLOW TEH FUX OUT OF TEH KRIMINAL WIF MY AEWSUM SMG"
*cop ditches car and gets on bike*
*cop sees the criminal*
"OHAI"
*cop opens fire*

The cop is basically wielding a crappy minigun; it shoots 1/4 as slow and has approx. 1/5 of the damage. If you're unlucky enough to easily blow the guy up, he's GUARANTEED going to have a few popped tires, in which the case he slides into a pole, spins out, flies into a wall, and EXPLODESINTOHIGHHELL

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, i was expecting your post long ago finaly you made it !! <3

[Leon.]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, i was expecting your post long ago finaly you made it !! <3

Waiting for the retarded one?

[Sammir]

You keep moaning = more advantages for cops  :evil:

[Oliver]

I actually don't mind cops having advantages - it should be like that as cops have a lot of advantages in real life. It'd be odd if criminals and cops had the same rights. It gives you a MUCH greater sense of accomplishment when you take a fully armed cop down than when you take a fully armed criminal down.

[Gandalf]

Fixed below:So how come hitmen are not allowed to use drive-by as driver whilst on a bike and cops can? Your reasoning in your post directed towards me shows that hitmen deserve to have the rule exemption as much as cops do on bikes. In the same way you will have people abusing this rule by using it in the middle of a gang war or to kill someone they don't like, I can see just as many cops abusing the rule by suspecting people for frivolous reasons and drive-bying them to death whilst they are motionless and not in a vehicle within seconds. For these reasons, I think there should be no exemptions to the rule at all. Thus the rule will be even more simple and the reasoning more solid.

A hitman is not chasing a wanted suspect. Do not try to twist rules to your advantage, people got banned for that.

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One more thing.. When you say that this rule has been here since 0.1b how come the administration was not informed of the exception of this rule at all until a developer used it? I know that you are entitled to make up the rules as you go along as it is your server however I find it unjust that you can claim to have an exception to a rule for two years that was non-existent to 99.9% of the server until a member of HQ used it.  Why weren't admins told not to punish cops drive-bying on bikes again on admin chat after they did it? As far as I am aware, the only people aware of this rule exception were yourself, Legolas and possibly the other few members of HQ. It would have only been beneficial if the existence of this exception of the rule was communicated to every member of the community in 0.1b - the date you gave for its creation.

Make up rules as we go along ?

Quote from: Raslman on October 26, 2007, 03:36:30 pm

    Well, i got problems with suspects. About drive-bying. Today im pursuit Omri, And Mumin, in PD bike. I start shoot at they. Can you anser: can police man shoot at suspects from bike with tec9 e.t.c?

If they do not give up? you can use any kind of tactic to stop the car with criminals... I hardly see any other way to stop a car, being chase it on bike and being alone...

The only people who wish to make up rules as they go along are our beloved players....

[Gandalf]

Gang war system is player made and run at the moment, the criminal commission on the other hand is looking very good and is set to resoundingly shut me up when it comes to criminal/cop equality discussions - which I think we all want.

I do, but if I can driveby off my bike I may use that instead :3.

The gang war system is player made however supported by us, as if we did not support gang wars would be completely forbidden.

the criminal commission is not for cop/criminal equality discussions. It is for criminal opportunities, however that is a very different subject.

[Gandalf]

Cool new rule.

Its not a new rule. If players had not started moaning about it, it might have even been forgotten. However as criminals think they know the rules better as developers it can happen that forgotten rules are brought up.

[Daco]

I think this thread can be locked as every complain got dealth with.

[Maxy]

Its not a new rule. If players had not started moaning about it, it might have even been forgotten. However as criminals think they know the rules better as developers it can happen that forgotten rules are brought up.

What's with the hostility, I actually agreed with the rule. I was being serious.

I don't think I know the rules better than the developers, but I can't remember this ever being allowed.

[Gandalf]

What's with the hostility, I actually agreed with the rule. I was being serious.

I don't think I know the rules better than the developers, but I can't remember this ever being allowed.

Check my quote of aragorn in 2007. Perhaps that was before your time here.

[Aksel]

Let's just keep it as it is. All of you are making a fool out of yourself, except those who's defending the current rules.

Lock please, before another big conversation starts.