I'd like to remind my fellow players

[Gandalf]

Huh? For once, Gandalf, I'm not sure if I agree...
I have been kicked by admins for heli-kill before, or Mass DM, as many admins put down as reason, so whoever crashed the helicopter and killed Giac, in theory, heli-killed (or  carkilled, whatever) so why would Giac be wrong?

Last time I checked, I'm sure that 'no Carkilling' was a rule, so i'm now confused  :S

**Rules on Argonath SA-MP RPG**

The rules or Argonath RPG are simple. All players are expected to do role-play. Deathmatching is strictly forbidden and will be punished by kick or ban.

For each skin there is a basic role, but players are free to use their imagination.
The idea is that we all live in a corrupt country, with a lot of criminals. However that does not mean that civilians are allowed to use their weapons at any time. If they are shot at, do what would happen in real life: panic and run. Only cops are allowed to shoot back , but even for cops there are limits.

- NO CHEATS, NO MODS, NO HACKS;
- NO HELIKILLING, NO CARKILLING, NO RAMMING, NO CARJACKING;
- NO GLITCHES, that give you advantage over other players (attacking from glitched areas);
- NO PAUSING WHEN COMBAT, WANTED;- NO REVENGE KILLING;
- NO FLOOD THE CHAT WINDOW;
- NO SPAM (advertisment of other servers and sites, that do not belong to Argonath RPG server is NOT allowed);
- NO FLAME/INSULT players. If you came to play on our server - respect it and our players;
- NO ATTACKING WITHOUT A PROPER REASON;
- NO ESCAPING WHEN SURRENDERED (follow cops to the police department);
- FOR ONE CHASE CRIMINAL CAN CHANGE ONLY 5 CARS. Fight or surrender;
- POLICE VEHICLES ARE ONLY FOR POLICE DEPARTMENTS;
- MILITARY VEHICLES ARE ONLY FOR ARGONATH ARMY TEAM;
- NO MONEY CHEATING (punishment: permban);
- IMPOSTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED (no any copying other players' nicks or regular clans' tags);
- SLANG IS ALLOWED ONLY AS A PART OF ROLEPLAY (swearing as personal attack on players will be punished);
- NICKS WITH THE UNREADABLE LETTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED (Please refrain from using <>?/|\{}[]()-=+/*- due to the server's RPG script commands)

These are the rules. Read them, we will question you on them tomorrow and see if anything has been understood.

[Jubin]

Gandalf, it says in the rules that self-defense is allowed only if you are a cop.

[Gandalf]

Gandalf, it says in the rules that self-defense is allowed only if you are a cop.

For citizens that is correct.

[Drastic]

I hate to say this but my opinion is that Argonath is beggining to be a cop server.Its my opinion so no big deal about it.

[Gandalf]

I hate to say this but my opinion is that Argonath is beggining to be a cop server.Its my opinion so no big deal about it.

I guess that you wish it to be a criminal server.

[Jubin]

For citizens that is correct.

How to make a difference between a criminal and a citizen?

[Gandalf]

How to make a difference between a criminal and a citizen?

Criminals break the law.  :cool:

[TheRock]

If argonath was becoming an cop server, there would be more advantages to cops, and less scripts for other groups... all scripts would be based on cops.. which is NOT.

[Leon.]

Killing ins self defense is a crime.

You've basically told everyone here that they should take a bullet in the head from an infamous criminal who has you at the gun while trying to rob you instead of taking the gun out of your holster ass and popping him, thus saving your life.
Post Merge: May 11, 2010, 10:27:26 pm

That screen was the day I told every member in that 'gangwar' not to shoot me as I was going to get weapons and leaving, and yet again, i was attacked by almost every person there. Luigi was like the only one that didn't shoot. I'm being honest and not trying to provoke or flame; but it seems Gvardia sees a blue dot, they just shoot and don't care. Even in Anelotti, I had many times where I was just about to leave because of having to be allies with Gvardia. Now, I don't have any problems with anyone in Gvardia, they're all great people and roleplayers, it just seems they're trained to shoot cops and enemies without roleplay. Repeating again, not meant to flame or provoke, but I just know someone will reply with something......
 

On that situation, when the shootout ended, each and every individual member involved was spoken to.
Post Merge: May 11, 2010, 10:28:30 pm

You still fail to understand that POLICE ARE THERE TO ENFORCE THE LAWS, WHICH CAN BE PUBLICLY VIEWED HERE!!!!!

lol this was months ago, did you report it to [email protected]?
why moan about it here now? 

If you weren't so illiterate, you'd realize that I was proving a point, not doing what your false interpretation of "moaning" is. Bandwagoning again, Mr. /B/rother?

[Zippie]

I agree. Im RPing criminal and cop both. And i have asked several SAPD members to RP with criminals and they have sayed no. I havent seen any RP lately between cops and criminals. Both sides should RP shootout and other things made between cops and suspects. In shootout we all just run around and kill. You are supposed to care of your life. Im have also tried to RP with cops on my own and they sayed: OMG stop this RP, even if they had time to RP. Cops are only chasing orange dots on the map, im not saying that im not doing it but i try to RP with them if its possible.

[Gandalf]

You've basically told everyone here that they should take a bullet in the head from an infamous criminal who has you at the gun while trying to rob you instead of taking the gun out of your holster ass and popping him, thus saving your life.

Not at all. that is what you make of it.
I have stated that killing in self defense is a crime. This is a very common law everywhere in the world. The punishment of the law will depend on the sutuation, which wil be made clear at the trial and investigation. A self defense where the citizen had no other choice as to kill wil be punished different as one where the citizen used unproportional violence. However still it will be a criminal trial.

[SafetyMoose]

Not at all. that is what you make of it.
I have stated that killing in self defense is a crime. This is a very common law everywhere in the world. The punishment of the law will depend on the sutuation, which wil be made clear at the trial and investigation. A self defense where the citizen had no other choice as to kill wil be punished different as one where the citizen used unproportional violence. However still it will be a criminal trial.

Self-defence in English law is a complete defence to all levels of assault and can be used to mitigate liability from murder to manslaughter

[Cofiliano]

The whole point of this topic that Leon/Luigi made, can be said in one sentence:

Stop using the word "RP", stop using the word "DM", less talking about who's more "leet in RP" or who's a "bigger DMer" and spend all that energy in building up your role playing.

For me it shouldn't be allowed to use the words "Dm, Dmers" or what so any, except in /report, and admin punish reason ( ban/kicked for Deathmathcing), because just like the word "moaning", its been used a lot  for everything this days.

Calling some group or a person Dmer(s), can be a worst insult, then calling them retards, f**ktards etc, and that's punishable, but not the word DM isn't.
So why letting it be used so much which can insult so badly ?

(And now Gandalf is probably gonna explain us, or show us from "owners give answer topic" how it is, in which I don't doubt, but then again people and admins needs  a memory refreshment in that case    )

[[SE]Dr_Pepper27]

maybe a stupid suggestion: A new rule stating you can't chase orange dots? It reduces the 'omg cops and robbers' shit. SASD uses this as if we chase an orange dot, we get punished ect. I think it'd be a goo idea.  :m4:

[rJCaiG]

Criminals break the law.  :cool:

what law? I thought SAPD law wasn't a set of laws for civilians to follow?
I'm not aware of any other set of laws, so which ones are you talking about?!?!?!?!