Why can we not be friends

[Clone]

Well said, CBF.

[Julio.]

I'll be your friend

[DHR.Mike]

Btw without Cops you don't have Criminals anyway couse if there is no one to Stop you from Breaking the Law how do you break the law in the first place ?? there for your not even a Criminal anymore

in Cops Case if all Criminals follow all the laws there are no Criminals anymore so how can you even call some one a Criminal ?? in other words you have NO job at all !! and some people might disagree on this but its True Speeding is against the law therfor makes you a Criminal if no one breaks the law there are No Speeders No guns No assult no Nothing in other words cops lose there job couse the are compleetly usless

So i Compleetly Agree with CB Cops and Criminals need to work togeter and not Against echother couse if you lose the Criminals Cop job gets usless if you lose the Cops why be a Criminal ?? your not breaking the law anymore anyway

[Pandalink]

Sorry Mike, but your post makes no sense (and I'm not talking about the stray capitals).
Speeding without cops is still speeding, we can just get away with it.

We don't play as "criminals" to be "the breakers of crime".
We play as "criminals" to be "a group with an agenda".

[TheRock]

I agree with CBF.

Some cops say "Sorry , I can't trust criminals". And how can we trust cops ? I sometimes try to /hail 1/2 and TRY to RP with a cop but he screams /GU NOW OR I KILL U.
Sometimes I /gu , but most of the cops fail to read the "Criminal123 has surrendered , hold your fire and cuff him" and simply keep shooting at me, They do no damage, but when someone cuffs me I get killed , I loose 1k and weaponsm and he looses $200.

It's not about the money, it's about the fun .. but you get pissed off sometimes.

We need to TRUST Eachother

BIG words... Small Actions.

If it could be the opposite, problem would be solved.

[Alsatian]

Well said, CBF. Glad you posted this. Hopefully people will actually step back and realise this is just a game, and that there's no need for all this arguing - especially considering that a vast amount of arguments and such stem from stupid things.

And honestly, the amount of stereotypes that the ARPD and criminal groups throw at eachother in contempt is just ridiculous.

Sure, well all die in shootouts, and it's extremely frustrating, but no need to flame eachother, because as I - and many others - have said: It's just a game.

[Baker]

I agree with you, I really do.

[Chase]

One thing I'd like to bring up is: What happened to the civilian / businessman role? Not a lot, if any, people play that anymore. Back in RS2 scripts, people had restaurants.. but they weren't just for healing when wounded. People actually came in, sat down, and ate like regular people, while waiters / waitresses served them.

And yes people could literally "pull drugs out their ass" in RS2 scripts since there was no drug scripts, but people didn't. Because they weren't greedy. They wanted to use their most important tool for entertainment - Imagination. People roleplayed having drug labs and warehouses. Cops would actually bust people for giving these non scripted drugs. This really goes to show that all you really need is /me. As CBF mentioned, scripts only support roleplay. The MOST important thing you can have is /me.

After RS3 and RS4 came out, people seemed to start loosing this important skill. They RELY on scripts for roleplay. And this is very well what caused people to start resulting to either cop or criminal. Because they believe 'it's the only way to make money'. All you need is /me. Don't get me wrong though. If you go around selling imaginative items with /me like people in RS2 did, then you won't make much, if any money. Because ONE person can't reverse this effect. We all, as a community need to realize, and accept the fact that imagination is key, as it is the main part of the developer's and owner's visions of the server.

[Pandalink]

One thing I'd like to bring up is: What happened to the civilian / businessman role? Not a lot, if any, people play that anymore. Back in RS2 scripts, people had restaurants.. but they weren't just for healing when wounded. People actually came in, sat down, and ate like regular people, while waiters / waitresses served them.

Well at the moment they effectively disabled /ad, you have to hire someone to go around shouting everywhere in the entire place and you have to slip in underhanded advertisements into your /p messages.


But yea chase, I would like to go and sell Lasagne from the LasagneMobile.. but I will often make it very clear (with maybe one /ad and then some discussion in public, and driving in the yellow car) that I'm selling these items and drive around 20 minutes with absolutely no interest at all, when there are 120 people online. Really saps my enthusiasm. :[

And yes people could literally "pull drugs out their ass" in RS2 scripts since there was no drug scripts, but people didn't. Because they weren't greedy. They wanted to use their most important tool for entertainment - Imagination. People roleplayed having drug labs and warehouses. Cops would actually bust people for giving these non scripted drugs. This really goes to show that all you really need is /me. As CBF mentioned, scripts only support roleplay. The MOST important thing you can have is /me.

After RS3 and RS4 came out, people seemed to start loosing this important skill. They RELY on scripts for roleplay. And this is very well what caused people to start resulting to either cop or criminal. Because they believe 'it's the only way to make money'. All you need is /me. Don't get me wrong though. If you go around selling imaginative items with /me like people in RS2 did, then you won't make much, if any money. Because ONE person can't reverse this effect. We all, as a community need to realize, and accept the fact that imagination is key, as it is the main part of the developer's and owner's visions of the server.
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[soad103]

I'd LOVE to RP more with cops, but the fact of the matter is that cops only want you to /gu, or else they'll shoot you.

New cops run around shooting suspects that are idle, not fighting etc. Veteran cops also do this.

I'm afraid of cops, I dont know who of em will be cool and RP with me, or put their gun up my face and scream "/GU NAO!".


First of all.

1. If you want to improve relations between criminals and cops, remove the 100$ reward for killing criminals. This will reduce the amount of cops running around murdering criminals all the f**king time.

2. Remove the 600$ reward for jailing. This will reduce the amount of "/GU NAO" where there is no option for RP. You either /gu or you get shot.

-Cop work should be about roleplay, not making money.

3. We ALL need to start respecting eachother, not screaming "Owned/Pwned" when we win a firefight, this goes for both criminals and cops.

4. The fact that cops got this "We can just rambo all we want, we can return anyway" attitude needs to disappear, a good way to do this is to make cops lose money when they die. Like it is with criminals.

us cops can be very paranoid at times, we try to roleplay, we try to work it out without having you /gu or even shoot you.  But most of the time in my time in SFPD I am shot with a clip full of combat shotgun when i try this.  After that I learned never ever give a criminal time like that have them /gu first.

this has even happened to me when i go off duty to rp an old man.  I am in my car a cop car pulls me over.  So i attempt to rp but i get suspected for not complying.  Then I am shot so I roleplay getting shot.  The cops come up to me with spray cans aiming at me waiting for a response.  In about ten seconds I am killed.  Why do they do this?  I can understand.  They think I will pull out a gun and begin to attack.  The reputation of criminals to cops has changed completely even if you are not a regular one.

[rJCaiG]

us cops can be very paranoid at times, we try to roleplay, we try to work it out without having you /gu or even shoot you.  But most of the time in my time in SFPD I am shot with a clip full of combat shotgun when i try this.  After that I learned never ever give a criminal time like that have them /gu first.

this has even happened to me when i go off duty to rp an old man.  I am in my car a cop car pulls me over.  So i attempt to rp but i get suspected for not complying.  Then I am shot so I roleplay getting shot.  The cops come up to me with spray cans aiming at me waiting for a response.  In about ten seconds I am killed.  Why do they do this?  I can understand.  They think I will pull out a gun and begin to attack.  The reputation of criminals to cops has changed completely even if you are not a regular one.

You win a donut. This explains mine and many other cops' feelings perfectly.

[MrFrancis]

A very well said, CBF. You've been teaching us well, I hope this will affect the minds of us.

[Stanley_Taylor]

us cops can be very paranoid at times, we try to roleplay, we try to work it out without having you /gu or even shoot you.  But most of the time in my time in SFPD I am shot with a clip full of combat shotgun when i try this.  After that I learned never ever give a criminal time like that have them /gu first.

this has even happened to me when i go off duty to rp an old man.  I am in my car a cop car pulls me over.  So i attempt to rp but i get suspected for not complying.  Then I am shot so I roleplay getting shot.  The cops come up to me with spray cans aiming at me waiting for a response.  In about ten seconds I am killed.  Why do they do this?  I can understand.  They think I will pull out a gun and begin to attack.  The reputation of criminals to cops has changed completely even if you are not a regular one.

So really, you're blaming criminals for the possibility that they will pull a gun out of their ass and shoot you? I've talked about this subject so many times. Cops and criminals are both to blame for this. Criminals for the fact they do this and cops for never allowing criminals to RP. High ranks within the ARPD are inconclusive about this subject. Some, like GiacJr, simply don't care about the RP and thinks it's better just to avoid the possiblity and spray them to death and others like Hank Rafferty could care less if criminals would do it on him.

[Cutt3r]

It appears that both sides are moving around in a vicious circle, so to say. So why don't you put an end to the cribbing and start off. Try and rp the way you said people should rp and although it may not bring about immediate returns in the likes of lovely RP, it will help. If you die 10 times by getting 'deathmatched' ...so what? See it as a game not as 'z0mg u dm me all the time, i do the same'. Slowly but certainly, the situation will change.

[Whiteman]

We are all big happy family,