Need clarification on "cant force RP rule"

[Dave]

The players chaped Argonath - correct. Those players were the very first in 2006/07. Other players then tried to shape the community more much to the dislike of the owners, which is why the Argonath Vision was made public, to make Argonath a server that is different from all the rest...not one that is shaped by the players who draw in other ideas from other servers.

[Void]

The players chaped Argonath - correct. Those players were the very first in 2006/07. Other players then tried to shape the community more much to the dislike of the owners, which is why the Argonath Vision was made public, to make Argonath a server that is different from all the rest...not one that is shaped by the players who draw in other ideas from other servers.

With your words, you show a freight of loosing Argonath's uniqueness. As long as there are veterans players that could not happen, and the server owners of course. Argonath has its own integrity and sovereignty. People can propose ideas. You don't have to accept it. Sources from many scripts do not have to be from a specific server. They can be made by independent scripters, but as I see Argonath has similar scripts to LXXP(and other servers) I don't see a problem why not?its the players that carry this community. They will determine the next step.

[Antonio.]

Running around with weapons 24/7, shooting cops, causing fights and ignoring administration....what  are you then?

You as an administrator should know not to post shit like this shit. You are supposing to help players yet you are making it worse.

Happening 2: Unless the cops had no valid reason to pull you over or stop you (and seeing a car full of Gvardia is NOT a valid reason) there is no reason not to RP with them. The general style of Gvardia of trying to be badasses whenever they meet a cop invites cops to treat them with strict and hard answers. That is not the fault of the cops.

Then at this point the cops were wrong since they didn't have a valid reason, nor was one given. If they gave us a valid reason then maybe the rp would've went well. Not just because they saw some of us armed, doesn't mean they can stop us because we are Gvardia.

Cmon Dolfa, do you guys wanna work with DPD with common enemy being mexicans ? You wanna unique RP where we get together here it is

We are a criminal group.... No we don't want to work with cops, it's part of our role play.

[EminemRulez]

Running around with weapons 24/7, shooting cops, causing fights and ignoring administration....what  are you then?

Indeed a good way to change subjects and create some good arguments, kind sir.

[Dave]

With your words, you show a freight of loosing Argonath's uniqueness. As long as there are veterans players that could not happen, and the server owners of course. Argonath has its own integrity and sovereignty. People can propose ideas. You don't have to accept it. Sources from many scripts do not have to be from a specific server. They can be made by independent scripters, but as I see Argonath has similar scripts to LXXP(and other servers) I don't see a problem why not?its the players that carry this community. They will determine the next step.

The veteran players and administrators are there to enforce and defend the Vision.

You as an administrator should know not to post shit like this shit. You are supposing to help players yet you are making it worse.

Don't blame me for stating my honest opinion from experience of having to deal with you people as an admin. Going behind admins backs to carry out prohibited gang wars and conflict...tsk tsk.

[Antonio.]

I can evade it. Easily. I can just say "no" and walk off, and if I get shot and killed - it is deathmatch. Simple. I know the rules and i've been enforcing them for nearly 4 years on and off.

So why is it not allowed when we do it ?

[Dave]

So why is it not allowed when we do it ?

Because you're not a busy admin.

It isn't allowed if you're a criminal and have cleearly broken a law, no matter how small the law is. Just like in real life, huh? I though you would like that.

[EminemRulez]

So why is it not allowed when we do it ?

Because cops can force RP...
Look:
- If you don't comply, you get suspected.
- If you say "Sorry, I don't want to RP with you", you get suspected for evading.

Everything you do, give the cop a reason to suspect you... I'd say you to report him, but as cops are always right, I'd not do that (A).

[Antonio.]

Don't blame me for stating my honest opinion from experience of having to deal with you people as an admin. Going behind admins backs to carry out prohibited gang wars and conflict...tsk tsk.

Here you go again with your bullshit you should really shut the fuck up, this is not how an admin should act.

[Dave]

Here you go again with your bullshit you should really shut the f**k up, this is not how an admin should act.

Flaming was one of the ban reasons. I suggest you start calming down, or the unban request will fall through, understand?

How should an admin act then? The way I am acting right now is no different from when I always acted, and I have never had any trouble with that. My attitude has always been like this....maybe it's because I was trained by and learned from Aragorn...not sure.

[Antonio.]

Flaming was one of the ban reasons. I suggest you start calming down, or the unban request will fall through, understand?

I am calm, now don't bring out the "your not gonna not get unbanned" card on me and stick to the topic mate.

[EminemRulez]

Flaming was one of the ban reasons. I suggest you start calming down, or the unban request will fall through, understand?

His rage is understandable since you provoked Gvardia before, what you expected him to do, give you some flowers?

I think this thread was already answered... wasn't it?

[Dave]

His rage is understandable since you provoked Gvardia before, what you expected him to do, give you some flowers?

I think this thread was already answered... wasn't it?

The answer was given, but people in this thread still fail to understand and accept said answer.

[EminemRulez]

The answer was given, but people in this thread still fail to understand and accept said answer.

They don't agree, but they have nothing to do but swallow it, nothing can be done...
In my eyes, this should be locked before it becomes a whinning thread again.

[Xander]

Flaming was one of the ban reasons. I suggest you start calming down, or the unban request will fall through, understand?

In order to receive respect, i suggest you give it out. Time for you to remove those blinders of yours and look at the big picture instead of only a fragment of it. Your comments about how people role play are insulting, your an admin, show some respect...oh and...grow up.

Void, i agree with pretty much everything you have said. Although it is pointless to argue with Dave because he always has his blinders on. Your better off ignoring his comments and letting him ramble on until he takes them off and can hold a conversation where we can progress instead of bickering back and forth. Just from what i have read from page 1 to now.

Now as far as the original thing, Cops forcing the car full of Gvardia's to role play. If a cop uses /su on a civilian, and the civilian has proof (video) he did nothing wrong, then that video should be turned in and the cop should receive a ban for Script Abuse. Since it is bannable.