In character and Out of character discussion

[Leon.]

This so called officer Tickle said they had no money and wanted a car, just as I parked outside LSPD.

TLDR: So I took them to a dealer, bought them a nice new 80k cheetah, me thinking this is some new person was fooled by them.

Continued:

I bought them there car, so I asked "do you have a house?" they said "No".

I went searching for a house.

Now this officer tickle was off duty.

We ended up in willowfield, officer Ruddy Russel pm'd me in pm and I told him if he could donate 50k for this person to get here first house, he did!. But this person "Tickle" was like "GTF_" "Ruddy Please leave", I thought this was highly rude, just because they where a cop this person was being rude and unwelcoming - they had no clue they sent money to me for them.

So, I told them he isn't going to leave he just donated $50k to buy a new home.

This person ended up becoming greedy and saying "Buy me this house, I know a $100k house" then when I said "No, I can't afford it", they where like "OMFG, You have mills, you was giving $50k to everyone".
Then I said, something like "FFS, fine, did /kill and left them in there new vehicle."
They ended up pming me "YOU RUINED MY LIFE, I need that 49k"  Then they said later on "I GTG, btw I lied, I had $300k".

It shows people who are generally unwelcoming to new (free)cops are usually greedy and selfish 


If only I had realised the same person as in Aragons story :/ I'd still have that 80k to spend on a real new player   :hit:.

I learned something today - let people work there asses off instead of giving them handouts - credits to JCstods.

Makes me sick.

I use IC/OOC with brackets when im in a decent roleplay where i don't wanna mix everything up. I also don't constantly use IC/OOC methods. I talk normally and make it clear whether im talking as a black gangster im roleplaying or myself.
They are defiantly not hindering anything. IC/OOC is an optional form of distinguishing roleplay and the real world. The things that are hindering anything are people like you who will constantly disregard people who use it and disrespect them. Just because you don't use it in a SRS OMG rp and i do sometimes, doesn't mean im going to force it on you. Although the way you speak you seem to want to force your 'method' onto us. Somewhat hypocritical if i may say.

Everything this guy just said, he stole from my brain.

[9r2e5i3k]

They are defiantly not hindering anything.

I use IC/OOC with brackets when im in a decent roleplay

You already show that you hold in higher esteem those who use it.

Somewhat hypocritical if i may say.

[Aragorn]

MetalLuigiX

What will happen, if you go on other RP server and start chillin around as on Argonath? With no OOC/IC shit?

[Gandalf]

I use IC/OOC with brackets when im in a decent roleplay where i don't wanna mix everything up. I also don't constantly use IC/OOC methods. I talk normally and make it clear whether im talking as a black gangster im roleplaying or myself.
They are defiantly not hindering anything. IC/OOC is an optional form of distinguishing roleplay and the real world. The things that are hindering anything are people like you who will constantly disregard people who use it and disrespect them. Just because you don't use it in a SRS OMG rp and i do sometimes, doesn't mean im going to force it on you. Although the way you speak you seem to want to force your 'method' onto us. Somewhat hypocritical if i may say.

How do you mix things up when in a decent roleplay ?

[Aksel]

How do you mix things up when in a decent roleplay ?

Maybe you're in a meeting and says something like "GET OUT". I mean, it could've mean everything.

[Xander]

How do you mix things up when in a decent roleplay ?

Alright here's a good one. I am going over to my friend's house in game, i go inside and notice he is with a few cop's because they have a warrant and they are roleplaying checking his house and cuffing him etc. So im inside and i say '/l sup guy's..Patton i need to talk to you on msn.' then i continue with saying '/l Man school today was terrible, yah know.' '/l i got loads of homework to do tonight.' then he responds '/l yea i got some college homework to do, it has been a rough few weeks'.....My point is that it's getting mixed up because us talking about school IRL and going on MSN(although i could implement MSN into the rp) have nothing to do with the roleplay at all. How does my homework go with police searching my brother's house? It doesn't. Now as i said before i don't use brackets all the time because i feel it does get annoying adding them at the end, especially when you hanging out with friends and just talking....But as i was saying if i am the cop and i see say Aksel come in and start talking to his friend while im arresting him or something it tends to mix things up and distract people.

Gandalf, it is kinda like writing a Essay. Your going to write about Blue and Green, so you say in your thesis that's what you are going to write about. Then in Body paragraph 1 you talk about Either Blue or Green. If i talk about Green i must stay green if i do not, and go off on a tangent on something else my grade drops. BUT if i stay Green then my grade will not drop. This is how were are taught to write in College, and it work's great so why not implement the idea on something else . As i said before i don't always use brackets because it does get annoying to always use them especially when im hanging out with friends. That's why i like Argonath so much is because the freedom of roleplay we have...i don't HAVE to use brackets, nobody is forcing them on me. I also don't HAVE to not use them..although i do feel that not using them is being pressured upon me and the people doing so are also being disrespectful about it...Which the disrespect also hinders the Argonath Image. Go read it again to see what i mean if necessary.

[9r2e5i3k]

Stupid example.

Why would you go especially to someone's in-game house when he got cops inside to talk about school IRL or that you need him on MSN? If you really needed him on MSN, you would've PM'ed him. If his PM is off, you can ask in /P.

And how could you mix that up with the RP scenario going on anyway, if it's so obviously not related...

[Tai]

Nice story RON it's like I know that from somewhere already ;D

[Void]

I don't give a flying firetruck if you use IC/OOC or not. I don't give a flying firetruck if Argonath has rules in favor of IC/OOC (which it doesn't). I don't give a flying firetruck if you just throw in a bunch of random shit into roleplay like PENIS.
I give a flying firetruck when IC/OOC users cry at the guys who don't use IC/OOC about them being NON RP, bad guyS, etc...
I give a flying firetruck when non-IC/OOC users throw fingers and bricks and go "f**kING IC/OOC USER HAS NO BRAIN CANT RP f**kING LOW RP FAG SKILL."

Seriously, guys. I thought Argonath was a free roleplay server, where you could roleplay how YOU PLEASE, not how some other jack-ass judges you for.

Forgot to mention (and I don't feel like looking for where to put this): I like to dick around sometimes too, so I'm not 100% "ZOMG RP."


Let me clarify a few things.

• Using IC/OOC doesn't make a player stupid. Those who say it does make you stupid actually cause themselves to be stupid, because they broke the golden rule - NO FLAMING
• Using and not using IC/OOC doesn't make a player a bad roleplayer. It's just a little thing some players opt in for, opt out of...it's their choice.
• IC/OOC Extremists are retards if they call non-IC/OOC users bad roleplayers, tards, etc...
• Non-IC/OOC extremists are retards if they call IC/OOC users bad roleplayers, people who can't use their brain, tards, etc...

And last but not least
Stop giving a f**k about how another player f**king roleplays. Don't like IC/OOC? f**king deal with it, because it's never going to stop as long as Argonath has it's amazing free roleplay style which I've come to adore.
Don't like when players who don't use IC/OOC? f**king deal with it, because refer to above.
If a player wants to use IC/OOC, f**king let them. Don't call them stupid, incapable of roleplaying, or whatever, because 1. You're stupid for calling them stupid. 2. They're as capable as roleplaying as you.
If a player doesn't want to use IC/OOC, f**king let them. Refer to above.

This, well, partially.

[Xander]

Stupid example.

Why would you go especially to someone's in-game house when he got cops inside to talk about school IRL or that you need him on MSN? If you really needed him on MSN, you would've PM'ed him. If his PM is off, you can ask in /P.

And how could you mix that up with the RP scenario going on anyway, if it's so obviously not related...

Oh then you should make a example on how to 'properly roleplay' in your little world. How about grow up and deal with the freedoms we have. If you dislike it and fail to show respect feel free to leave. I was giving a quick example like 15 minutes before school so take that into consideration.

And what Void highlighted in Leon's post is my overall point. As long as we have fun roleplaying with each other who care's whether we use IC/OOC methods or not. Im here to have fun not bicker with people who fail to take off their blinders.

[Gandalf]

Gandalf, it is kinda like writing a Essay. Your going to write about Blue and Green, so you say in your thesis that's what you are going to write about. Then in Body paragraph 1 you talk about Either Blue or Green. If i talk about Green i must stay green if i do not, and go off on a tangent on something else my grade drops. BUT if i stay Green then my grade will not drop. This is how were are taught to write in College, and it work's great so why not implement the idea on something else . As i said before i don't always use brackets because it does get annoying to always use them especially when im hanging out with friends. That's why i like Argonath so much is because the freedom of roleplay we have...i don't HAVE to use brackets, nobody is forcing them on me. I also don't HAVE to not use them..although i do feel that not using them is being pressured upon me and the people doing so are also being disrespectful about it...Which the disrespect also hinders the Argonath Image. Go read it again to see what i mean if necessary.

If you are going to talk about Blue AND Green, and then stay on only Blue OR Green, your mark will be pretty low if I would have to give it. Perhaps where you live it is accepted to do it your way.

[Xander]

If you are going to talk about Blue AND Green, and then stay on only Blue OR Green, your mark will be pretty low if I would have to give it. Perhaps where you live it is accepted to do it your way.

What that means is you want to stay on point. When your writing an essay your proving something and when you write your Intro paragraph you want to Start broad then go into your Thesis aka your theme. Say my theme is about how Blue is better than green but they are still each a color. Then Body paragraph 1(if its a small 4 paragraph essay) will be about Blue. The 2nd body paragraph will be on green, yes you would add in why Green is worse or in paragraph 1 why blue is better. The point is stay on topic. I won't be talking about how blue is a really good color but yet Red is pretty decent as well and orange is cool too. That totally obliterates the essay and i can guarantee that if you were to hand it in to a teacher or Professor or whatever you would get a terrible grade. Now if you stay on point then you will get a decent grade. We are taught here in America that when we write we need to have a point and stick to it. Not to go off on some other topic, if you stay Blue and Green then it will be organized and be better overall. Now i don't know if where you live you can write up a load of information that is not relevant to each other and do good. But we are taught to make it look decent and such.
Either or, this topic is not about writing skills, Roleplay types and things like that. What it is on is how Aragorn was treated as a UC new player. The way he was treated was terrible and people need to quit the nonsense and re-read the first post to understand what it was about. Im done and i hope people take Aragorns first post into consideration.

[9r2e5i3k]

Oh then you should make a example on how to 'properly roleplay' in your little world.

After the question >>

How do you mix things up when in a decent roleplay ?

You described a situation where you went to someone's house while a scenario was already rolling and started a conversation in /L, which is clearly non-relevant and hard to mix up with what was going on "IC". >>

Alright here's a good one. I am going over to my friend's house in game, i go inside and notice he is with a few cop's because they have a warrant and they are roleplaying checking his house and cuffing him etc. So im inside and i say '/l sup guy's..Patton i need to talk to you on msn.' then i continue with saying '/l Man school today was terrible, yah know.' '/l i got loads of homework to do tonight.' then he responds '/l yea i got some college homework to do, it has been a rough few weeks'.....My point is that it's getting mixed up because us talking about school IRL and going on MSN(although i could implement MSN into the rp) have nothing to do with the roleplay at all. How does my homework go with police searching my brother's house? It doesn't. [...]

I said that it's a "stupid example" because: first you say that it's easy to mix up things in a decent role-play, and then give an example [assuming: of decent role-play, hence the "here's a good one"] showing that it's the opposite of what you stated.

I was giving a quick example like 15 minutes before school so take that into consideration.

Why didn't you just drop it or save the Firefox session or something and give a good example when you got the time to write it?

And why should I consider your school time anyway... I'm not your parent or relative, nor a real-life friend, how should I even know it. Yet another example of requiring knowledge about everything from others. (first example being demanding knowledge of all rules and personal standards from new players).

[Gandalf]

What that means is you want to stay on point. When your writing an essay your proving something and when you write your Intro paragraph you want to Start broad then go into your Thesis aka your theme. Say my theme is about how Blue is better than green but they are still each a color. Then Body paragraph 1(if its a small 4 paragraph essay) will be about Blue. The 2nd body paragraph will be on green, yes you would add in why Green is worse or in paragraph 1 why blue is better. The point is stay on topic. I won't be talking about how blue is a really good color but yet Red is pretty decent as well and orange is cool too. That totally obliterates the essay and i can guarantee that if you were to hand it in to a teacher or Professor or whatever you would get a terrible grade. Now if you stay on point then you will get a decent grade. We are taught here in America that when we write we need to have a point and stick to it. Not to go off on some other topic, if you stay Blue and Green then it will be organized and be better overall. Now i don't know if where you live you can write up a load of information that is not relevant to each other and do good. But we are taught to make it look decent and such.
Either or, this topic is not about writing skills, Roleplay types and things like that. What it is on is how Aragorn was treated as a UC new player. The way he was treated was terrible and people need to quit the nonsense and re-read the first post to understand what it was about. Im done and i hope people take Aragorns first post into consideration.

On which point exactly were you trying to stay here ?

[Xander]

On which point exactly were you trying to stay here ?

Since you cannot pull out information from text i will give you a tip. Click the 6 to travel to page 6 to find your answer. Very simple.

After the question >>
You described a situation where you went to someone's house while a scenario was already rolling and started a conversation in /L, which is clearly non-relevant and hard to mix up with what was going on "IC". >>
I said that it's a "stupid example" because: first you say that it's easy to mix up things in a decent role-play, and then give an example [assuming: of decent role-play, hence the "here's a good one"] showing that it's the opposite of what you stated.

Why didn't you just drop it or save the Firefox session or something and give a good example when you got the time to write it?

And why should I consider your school time anyway... I'm not your parent or relative, nor a real-life friend, how should I even know it. Yet another example of requiring knowledge about everything from others. (first example being demanding knowledge of all rules and personal standards from new players).

I didn't do it on my school time i typed it in 15 minutes before school even started. Goes to show how much information you take in when you read. If you feel that it's not good, i know its not perfect but its a bland example, then you should come up with a way to perfectly roleplay in your world. If you fail to do so i will disregard the rest because like i said, you aren't taking off your blinders. I love how we all get off track from the main topic(yes i did too i will admit it) because people begin criticizing and showing disrespect towards other people's form of roleplay.