In character and Out of character discussion

[MisterSjeiks]

Nice post

[Leon.]

IC/OOC is for people without a brain.
/end

Silly Giac, flaming is for kids! The missionary for the Argonath Vision just showed his true colors!

If the "Champions of IC and OOC", especially my dear and beloved MetalLuigiX, still do not understand this statement, then you must have no comprehension ability or common sense at all...

Awesome! I have a fan! High-five!
On the contrary, JDC. It appears you have failed to comprehend my statement(s) at all, which I reworded about three times, specially for you.
And "Champion of IC and OOC"?
LOL. Who do you think you are to judge that? You haven't even had the balls to roleplay with me because you're so judgmental on every thing and everyone. Like I said, I DO NOT strictly use IC/OOC. It depends on the majority of the crowd I'm using. For example, if I'm roleplaying with you, Giac, Dave, and Grz, then fuck-all IC/OOC (like you guys would roleplay with me (with the exception of Dave) considering you guys have nothing to do other than show prejudice towards other players (again, with the exception of Dave) ).
See, I'm a lot like Vince. Vince, like me, does not give a truck's muffler if you use IC/OOC. He's just happy to be roleplaying with you. But since your mind is as narrow as your ass, you fail to realize this.
<3 You, Vince.

If I say "F*ck you, you stupid b*tch!" to another player in RP, then I am still flaming that player as what I said goes against the Argonath Vision (and even against the basic rules!)... which stands against IC/OOC. We are not here confuse players or to flame them subversively.

We don't use IC/OOC as an excuse to flame. Flame is flame, no matter what characters from the keyboard surround what is said. If people say "ITS IC" and use it as an excuse to flame, then they probably deserve the insults you throw at the general population + punishment for breaking the golden rule.

Please read this

Why not letting people RP how they want, instead classifying douches and  IC/OOC-ers under same term.

This is all I ask. Really. This is all, I, ask, from you anti-srs rpers and your anti-IC/OOC legion.

If you don't want me using IC/OOC, fine. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. But all I ask in return is

Why not letting people RP how they want, instead classifying douches and  IC/OOC-ers under same term.

In other words, please, I ask of respect as a person, not because of how I roleplay.

And I'll repeat again before you judge me strictly under the IC/OOC category. I use both depending on my audience. I'll do what makes you happy, because when you're happy, then I'm happy, and we can all be friends.

[Dave]

(with the exception of Dave)...(again, with the exception of Dave) ).

lol.

May I just point out the fact that some of you may be overlooking the posts by Aragorn and Gandalf about this subject. You know, the posts that sophisticatedly tell you where to put your IC / OOC stuff, right?

[Leon.]

lol.

You're one of the few who actually has a level of respect, or at least shows it despite the level of disrespect you MAY have.

May I just point out the fact that some of you may be overlooking the posts by Aragorn and Gandalf about this subject. You know, the posts that sophisticatedly tell you where to put your IC / OOC stuff, right?

In the bin?

[Void]

Please read thisThis is all I ask. Really. This is all, I, ask, from you anti-srs rpers and your anti-IC/OOC legion.

If you don't want me using IC/OOC, fine. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. But all I ask in return isIn other words, please, I ask of respect as a person, not because of how I roleplay.

And I'll repeat again before you judge me strictly under the IC/OOC category. I use both depending on my audience. I'll do what makes you happy, because when you're happy, then I'm happy, and we can all be friends.

Same here.Depends on the other party.IF the other player uses it, I use it too, if he doesn't, I don't too.It is in fact, very simple. 
I just want tolerance between all(Might sound hippie, but what can I do)

[Void]

Topic divided from the previous one by Gandalf.

Discuss.Now lets show we can have a decent conversation without any bursts.Tell me your opinion about IC/OOC, what does it do, what impact does it have on the Argonath community. Is it a srsserver thing? ban it?

[Pablo]

So, Lot of people use OOC/IC at Argonath server, we shouldn't forbid it. But there are people who don't support it, so that's why we don't get scripted chat command for it like /b .

[Void]

So, Lot of people use OOC/IC at Argonath server, we shouldn't forbid it. But there are people who don't support it, so that's why we don't get scripted chat command for it like /b .

I agree, but many people abuse IC/OOC and flame on nationality,skin tone, and in general basis. Many actually have that saying "It was IC, nonRP srs". I understand that the conservative people of this community have a different perspective but as SA:MP emerged, changes were inevitable.You just cannot stop it.I've met many fine RPers that sometimes use IC/OOC(You too Pablo), and I've met some wannabe trolls,who say they know how to RP while in fact their opinion stands always higher, like: "This community is shit, nonRper noobs" like he is the best and everyone else is worse.Sadly, these people do not leave the server as they announce 10000 times.

[Pablo]

I admit that I use OOC/IC, but there's nothing wrong with that. I use it how it is supposed to use. I don't do things like you just stated above about trolls 'n shii'.

[JayL]

What part of the fact that by using OOC/IC, you mislead people into following these rules too, which are NOT Argonath rules, intentionally or not do you people not understand?

Look how many times this has been said by developers just in this topic:

We allow freedom, but we are not in favour of teaching new player to follow rules from other servers.
If other servers allow racism, should we allow it because they do ?

stop f**king confuse players and think that we are one of those OOC/IC servers...

Its not a form... It is the rule from other servers... We have our own rules - Obey them...
And do not confuse players with OOC/IC rule... It is not Argonath then...

Its nice to defend the OOC/IC and to ignore that with its usage you implement into Argonath the rule from other server, which is not in Argonath rules at all...

we will just disallow this usage not to confuse players...

[Leon.]

What part of the fact that by using OOC/IC, you mislead people into following these rules too (not Argonath rules) intentionally or not do you people not understand?

Look how many times this has been said by developers just in this topic:

The mislead may be misguided at birth, then, if you catch my drift.

[9r2e5i3k]

The mislead may be misguided at birth, then, if you catch my drift.

That's the point, to stop misguiding at birth  :poke:

[JayL]

That's the point, to stop misguiding at birth  :poke:

Exactly.

Stop confusing players, stop confusing players, stop confusing players, stop confusing players.

[Leon.]

Exactly.

Stop confusing players, stop confusing players, stop confusing players, stop confusing players.

Name one player who has been or is confused.

[Cero]

Let people roleplay the way they want. If I start a roleplay and the other person starts using IC/OOC I do too. If he doesn't start with IC/OOC, I dont. Simple as.

I have never tried to enforce OOC/IC or tried to stop someone from using it. It's their way of roleplaying, who the hell are we to judge? As long as they dont purposefully go around trying to teach IC/OOC to players who DONT want to learn about it, no problem.


Giac, nice way of going ahead with a example as a SA:MP Moderator saying that OOC/IC users dont have a brain.. Provoking is not allowed here..