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Suspects not allowed to get backup

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Reply #30 on: January 08, 2011, 04:44:47 pm
I certainly get where Gandalf's coming from. I've witnessed multiple situations in which a group of officers pinned down in a shootout with gang members have been flanked by apparent non-combatants whose excuses were that they were 'helping their friends'. HOWEVER, certain situations SHOULD allow backup if you get to the location of your friends being pinned down and notify the law enforcement beforehand so they can suspect you as soon as you arrive onto the scene.



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Reply #31 on: January 08, 2011, 04:50:29 pm
I certainly get where Gandalf's coming from. I've witnessed multiple situations in which a group of officers pinned down in a shootout with gang members have been flanked by apparent non-combatants whose excuses were that they were 'helping their friends'. HOWEVER, certain situations SHOULD allow backup if you get to the location of your friends being pinned down and notify the law enforcement beforehand so they can suspect you as soon as you arrive onto the scene.

Ill have to agree, if people can just rock up and shoot the cops whilst "helping" friends without the cops knowing it is basically deathmatching/cophunting as it is other players that where not involved coming along and joining in. If they inform the cops before hand, so basically an ambush it is no problem, but it is simply like civilians walking up and shooting cops in the back.



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Reply #32 on: January 08, 2011, 04:52:08 pm
I think most criminals and cop forget about one important thing, Roleplay.. I see a unarmed criminal running down the streets, i see two cops running after and shooting an unarmed suspect..

about kidnapping, i call one FBI agent and tell him to come to a location ALONE, im not in that location of course but i got a scout there who i got constant contact with, after 5 minutes he tells me that 25 cops just arrived. Too bad there was noone to catch there.

I hold a knife ready to cut some guys throat, 10 cops arrive and shoots both of us before even giving a warning ( i die and the hostage had very little HP left)

As a cop i ran after a unarmed suspect, he runs for a while till he finds a car. he steals the car and tries to get away, i open his door and pull him out for evading and refusing to listen, and he starts flame the crap outta me.

Lets say im in a small shootout with some cops, i take cover and call the prospects of the club to back me up. they arrive and shoots at the cops so they take cover and we can drive away.

When you call someone like in the case above, its fully RP as it is what people accualy do in real life.


What i do not find as a RP reason to help out other criminal is when the criminal runs over to his HQ and give his buddy weapons so they can shoot the cops.

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Reply #33 on: January 08, 2011, 04:55:58 pm
I used to be a cop 'till I understood that our job was not about RPing... Hence why I joined criminals groups then.
Remove: /m1, /m2, /m3, /s1, /s2, /s3. - It's just limiting RP...
The cops knows, once he has done /m1 or any of the commands above, he's allowed to shoot and kill.

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Reply #34 on: January 08, 2011, 05:06:11 pm



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Reply #35 on: January 08, 2011, 05:07:37 pm
I used to be a cop 'till I understood that our job was not about RPing... Hence why I joined criminals groups then.
Remove: /m1, /m2, /m3, /s1, /s2, /s3. - It's just limiting RP...
The cops knows, once he has done /m1 or any of the commands above, he's allowed to shoot and kill.

Incorrect.
He is available to suspect for evading. However, such petty crime IMO is not equal to death punishment.
ONLY if a civilian draws his weapon and assaults the officer.

However, police needs to actually RP and leave an impression on the suspect that he'll NOT get shot as soon as he exits the car.



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Reply #36 on: January 08, 2011, 05:11:46 pm
Incorrect.
He is available to suspect for evading. However, such petty crime IMO is not equal to death punishment.
ONLY if a civilian draws his weapon and assaults the officer.
You know, maybe better than me, that it doesn't work that way... :razz:

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Reply #37 on: January 08, 2011, 05:16:54 pm
You know, maybe better than me, that it doesn't work that way... :razz:

It was different before .... but that was before.

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Reply #38 on: January 08, 2011, 05:18:10 pm
You know, maybe better than me, that it doesn't work that way... :razz:

And the reason for that is all the untrained officers running around with no ground set to run on, no one has told them how the system works, they come from Cops & Robbers servers and think its the same here, do a single command then shoot to kill, not to incapacitate and jail the suspects.  ;)

It was different before .... but that was before.

Times change, and change is neccesary for growth. We will have to adapt and overcome the hickups in order to regrow with morals and boundaries.



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Reply #39 on: January 08, 2011, 05:22:48 pm
It was different before .... but that was before.
Nothing will ever be like before.

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Reply #40 on: January 08, 2011, 05:23:50 pm
And the reason for that is all the untrained officers running around with no ground set to run on, no one has told them how the system works, they come from Cops & Robbers servers and think its the same here, do a single command then shoot to kill, not to incapacitate and jail the suspects.  ;)
I'm not talking about newcommers <those are the best cops.

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Reply #41 on: January 08, 2011, 05:26:11 pm
I'm not talking about newcommers <those are the best cops.

So if it isnt the new players which you feel are causing the problems, higher ranked cops should be watched for fault and punished for any rule breaking and abuse of rights. Due to the simple fact that new players will look at high ranked officers as idols and do as they do which leads to bad habbits and rulebreaking.



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Reply #42 on: January 08, 2011, 05:26:22 pm

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Reply #43 on: January 08, 2011, 05:30:54 pm
Due to the simple fact that new players will look at high ranked officers as idols and do as they do which leads to bad habbits and rulebreaking.
Yes - they always pick the wrong role-models.

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Reply #44 on: January 08, 2011, 05:49:25 pm
Respawning as another generic cop is not "returning after death". One cop is dead, and another one is replacing the dead one in the chase.

Respawning as civilian (because you don't spawn as a suspect) and killing a cop for a crime someone else did is deathmatching, because person is unrelated and has no valid reason to do so. If the person states he's the previous criminal (that's dead) to become related, he's "returning after death".
LOL so your saying the police force has unlimited bodies and infinity people but civilians/criminals(which in real life a lot more civilians than cops 'yeah i know') have limited people? God... wtf is that.



 


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