While Violet has written quite a long post, it has more irony than the ARPD has bullets.
How ignorant.
Explain the ignorance in the opening reminders.
First you moan about elitist 1337 ZOMG RP and now are moaning that there is not enough RP. Decide what you want before you try to argue.
Someone with your level of English should be familiar with the phrases "in between" and "moderately".
Oh, wait. Why am I telling this to somebody who thinks that RP between cops and criminals is either retarded or impossible?
Lastly, these reminders are not meant to enforce additional roleplay. The addition of scripts can enforce roleplay, but players practicing the guidelines of their own free will negates the possibility of roleplay being enforced on them, as
they are the ones carrying out the actions. Or in a more basic form, the difference between those who have been enslaved and those who willingly serve.
And I wonder why people are not allowed to say ACAB.
Before we wonder about the term "ACAB", let's tackle the issue of rogue ex-admins who are busy at work trolling the FBI, the SAPD, cops in general, admins, among other things, shall we? Then we'll talk.
Yes, mainly you - like here in the same post.
Yes, I am complaining (but not moaning, as this has a better aim as opposed to selfish, inconsiderate moan) about the lack of overall roleplay between both sides, especially with the presence of people like you and Panda who exert effort to
worsen the situation by discouraging roleplay.
If you're gonna be contradictory and a hypocrite, atleast don't do it in the same post.
Before you accuse me of contradiction, remember that everything in my post is aimed at the same goal: raising roleplay between cops and criminals.
Before you accuse me of hypocrisy, remember who constantly points out the faults of others while doing nothing to better the situation. All you need to see him / her / it is a mirror.
Going to pull the same card on me? I have exerted efforts aimed at cop-criminal roleplay. I have roleplayed with suspects (even if it means putting life at risk), I have reminded cops to exert more roleplay, and once again I have made this topic to remind both sides.
You, Violet.
What have you done to make the situation better in any way at all?Nothing.Is the Hydra used for anything else other than shooting?
Yes. I have actually created roleplay using what is known as an instrument of death worse than the different guns. Have you?
[My past post about the Combat Shotgun] 
People can change a lot in 2 years.
For example, somebody named UltraSforza. He was an awesome member of Sforza back in the day who was respected by even players of high MTA:VC caliber such as EliteTerm, and the last I heard is that he moved into SA:MP and contracted the corruption. I don't know what happened to him since, last I heard he was a rogue ex-admin who trolls the FBI regularly. Tragic, actually. :roll:
Fixed.
>Implying I'm the only person who is tired of cop-criminal hostility in the personal context and that everyone else possesses your point of view.You are not qualified to remind the criminals of anything as you are not one.
=AV=JDC_Kolta. An agent of the law who has served the FBI ceaselessly for over 2 years.
Remember also that I once had access to an admin UC account and that I took the liberty of exploring the possibilities I couldn't do on my main account.
Yes, I committed crimes while posing as a new player and have studied different criminal strategies (most of which the majority never use). It seems you are mistaken here.
You analyse it with a Hydra, do you?
Concluding from your views of cop-criminal roleplay, then even my hydra must have better RP analysis than you.
Sure. Blasting the shit out of LSPD when there were unarmed civilians shows how honest a statement this is.
Those unarmed civilians (and police officers) ignored at least a dozen warnings of the impending bombing meant to stop the riot, just as many unfortunate police officers have ignored your warnings that criminals will instantly kill any cop who poses a threat to them.
Don't moan when other people use the very radar you are in love with and have a fit every time a player more suited to a RLRP server posts an idea about removing.
The radar example was written as a part of the situation and not as a complaint on the radar. It seems like you purposely left out the fact that it was present in the "Good" examples as well.
Exaggerated. Any one who ain't retarded won't moan about being abused by someone who abused /su when in a mass shootout.
By your logic, it would seem we have a legion of retarded criminals on this server.
Good:
(Suspects see cops coming towards them on the radar. They are trapped.)
**Cop1(7) says: Commander, our radar has detected them around the corner wall 5 meters from here.
LOL.
'Don't moan when other people use the very radar you are in love with and have a fit everytime a player more suited to a RLRP server posts an idea about removing.'
> Implying the radar may not be used for roleplay as well.Cops do not value their lives at all as they can return as many times as they want. Cop2 will die and probably return, so it makes no difference if they all die or not. Most cops in this situation actually return after death many times if not to /weaponequip those who do.
Then those cops are a part of the problem from the cop side as much as you are a part of the problem from the criminal side.
Cop2 would be banned if he did this in-game in front of an admin or logs were checked.
Not every instance of humor in a cop-criminal situation has to be offensive. If that is your idea of humor in such situations, then your sense of humor is a pity to behold. The KFC was a mere illustrative situation.
What is RP? Do you consider the ninety percent of cops who use /s2 and shoot instantly to be RP?
That's exactly one of the things I am trying to criticize with this topic, isn't it? Also, I am for the removal of the /s1-3 and /m1-3 commands as they have turned a creative aspect of RP into a robotic sequence of script and murder.
At this point Cop1 would probably be punished too.
"Not every instance of humor in a cop-criminal situation has to be offensive. If that is your idea of humor in such situations, then your sense of humor is a pity to behold. The KFC was a mere illustrative situation."
Suspect1 would be shooting too, you know? Depending on the shooting skill of the suspects, the cops would probably be all killed, the first wave i.e. Cop1 and Cop2 at least.
You forgot the possibility of arrest and interrogation.
More time wasted closer to a cop means more cops come, chances of survival/escape decline. The only reason why suspects would kill a cop is to go escape afterwards.
You seem to be purposely turning a blind eye to the suspects who kill a cop simply because they want to bad-ass, harass, terrorize, or kill a cop.
Not in my experience, which I have a lot more than you do.
Forgive me for questioning your highly superior IQ, but you seem to have forgotten that not every individual possesses the same experiences... or did you just utterly fail at roleplaying with cops which is why you are crying about this topic now?
The suspect, if not a retard, would leave the scene after killing the cop who is engaging. If he were not to engage, he would have stayed in the patrol car.
Thank you for indirectly labeling any suspect who attempts to roleplay with cops, as a "retard".
Never happens.
I don't know what definition "never" has at whatever countryside you came from, but I've seen the said situation happen a lot. It isn't even that far from what players like Jcstodds, Legend, and Eliteterm do in roleplay.
Unless both suspect1 and cop1 are retarded, they will not place themselves at a massive risk of being killed whilst typing. By the time used to type everything, many cops would have came and suspect1 would either have to die or escape.
So by your logic, cops and suspects who try to roleplay with each other are retarded and every cop-suspect situation must always end in death or escape?
The following does happen.
**Suspect1(0) sees a cop behind a patrol car.
**Suspect1(0) shouts: Leave now po-lice or I blast y'all
**Cop1(7): This is the law, stop and surrender now
**Cop1(7): This is the law, stop and surrender now
**Cop1(7): This is the law, stop and surrender now
Shootout...
Cop1 is probably killed and suspect1 runs off.
You forgot the other common occurence, where Suspect1 is killed shortly by Cop1.
If you have any common sense left, it should occur to you that these situations are among what caused me to make this topic, from the cop side. While people are tired of the problem, you seem to be happy and content with it growing.
Makes no sense. 'Abseloute chance of death' lolol
So you are not familiar with a situation where an individual encounters an inescapable possibility that death
will happen to them?
FBI is shoot to kill as they do not have to ask for surrender before pew pew. Don't tell people to do something if you don't do it yourself.
If a suspect starts a roleplay with me (which is definitely not walking up to me and directly pew pew), I engage in roleplay. Don't tell people not to try to solve problems if you can't even do it yourself.
You don't even know the difference between a suspect and a criminal, how the f**k are you in a position to advise them?
Criminal: A player who practices a life of crime, or one that is crime-oriented. i.e: Mobsters.
Suspect: A player targeted by the /su command or the auto-murder script, with an orange name. Mostly criminals. i.e: Shooters
You don't even know how to successfully roleplay properly with cops as a criminal / suspect (especially suspect), how the f**k are you in a position to advice me?
Besides. Contradictory to point two.
Point 2: Don't always wait for the other person to make the first move.
Point 5: Don't jump to conclusions immediately.
False. Both points are not absolutely contradictory. Unless you lack the capability to plan a strategy, then you should know that it is possible to make moves (cautious ones, at the least) that consider the possibility that the other person may not be what the immediate first assumption holds him / her to be or do what ... holds him / her to do.
An example would be a person combating a fire, without knowing the cause. If the fire is caused by the combustion of flammable materials such as wood, water will do. If the fire is electrical such as one arising from a short-circuit, water will not put out the fire. To make a move that does not immediately make conclusions regarding the fire would be to use something which can combat fires from both specified sources, such as an extinguisher.
- Was a self-analysis that needs a little update from most to all.
My topic is not self-analytic, but a summary and statement on the situation. People with vast experience should be able to see that, unless the eyes with which they see have been hopelessly corrupted.
- You expect suspects do to things that put them at a disadvantage whilst you do not do the same yourself.
False. The act itself of engaging in roleplay with suspects as a cop is a form of putting myself at a very possible disadvantage, yet I do it anyway.
- You moan about combat shotguns and get have a Hydra/Hunter.
I don't know what "get have" means in whatever countryside you grew up in, but I don't blindly use the hydra / hunter on anything. If I do, then access should be restricted only to Fernando by now (or removed from even him for allowing his Agents to use it so blindly).
- You do not know the difference between a suspect and a criminal and associate them as the same thing.
Refer to earlier points. If you want a reason why I included both of them in mostly the same comparisons, it is because they practice mostly similar activity... especially criminals who are suspected.
- The side shooting first has to be the one not to jump to conclusions and wait for the other side to shoot, making the side shooting first not the side shooting first but the side shooting last.
You take it that everyone who fires a gun is only capable of using the strategy "kill kill destroy destroy".
- You are against ZOMG RP yet are moaning that there is not enough RP.
This is not a moan topic. If somebody is moaning here, it would be you moaning about me.
- As I understand, you would be Cop2 in that situation, your understanding of humour is racism. I would only tell people to follow your point three if they wish to get banned.
As I understand, you would be closed-minded enough as to conclude that the only possible kind of humor in a cop-criminal situation is one that involves racism. I took my example from a past kidnapping where the criminals who kidnapped an SAPD Sergeant actually demanded a bucket of KFC as ransom.
- According to you, suspects simply stay in one position and shoot, waiting for more and more cops to come so that they can eventually die.
According to you, the amount of examples in a topic states that the only possible situations of that kind are the exact ones after which the examples were modeled.
- You think people actually RP in the middle of a cop-suspect shootout when you have a Hydra that could kill all of them in an instant.
You think people have never RP'ed, don't RP, and will never RP in the middle of a cop-suspect shootout and that I use my hydra at every single instant.
- You don't like others use the radar which you are against the removal of and love yourself.
You have utterly failed to see (or simply deliberately overlooked) the fact that I illustrated the radar as an instrument in RP, checking one of the "Good" examples.
[- Not waiting for the other side to shoot first would mean that you would like suspect's radars to be removed as they use them to locate cops who have engaged whom they are allowed to shoot.
I have never objected to suspects being allowed to use the radar to locate cops who have engaged them in combat. Again, once again, the radar can be used as an instrument of roleplay as it allows you to find other players to RP with.
What we have learned from your response: You dismiss reminders meant to increase cop-criminal roleplay if voluntarily practiced despite being one of the individuals backing the increase of the problem. One must question the statements in your post dismissing an effort to dismiss tension and moan, as even more moan, seeing as you contribute to the reason for the tension in the first place. Your vision of cop-criminal interaction summarized, is: "/su, shootout, death". Even worse is, you are plagued by the delusion that cop-criminal interaction is and will always be limited to such for everyone.
What keeps you on Argonath, Violet? The presence of an FBI to satirize and troll? The presence of admins whose work and actions you can criticize? The presence of tension between cops and criminals which you can continue to contribute to? I can sleep peacefully every night knowing that I speak what I stand for, instead of accusing everyone of my own faults.
Before you point a finger at an FBI Agent of two years who "goes around in his hydra blasting the shit out of every orange dot he sees hurr hurr hurr", remember you have done nothing to solve the problem, even in your own small ways. You belong on a cops and robbers DM server even more than I do.
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