This has to stop, right now!

[Hess]

If you mean examples such as
 
Guy1: I goed to there house yesterday
Guy2: OMG FAIL... you mean went* and their*
 
Then I no longer believe that is helpful. It can damage a person's ego and give them the idea they are inferior because of lack of english skills.

If I was Guy1, I would consider that helpful now that I know my mistakes.

You do not see how that was slightly insulting? Look at the first 2 words "OMG FAIL". He may think that Guy2 is making fun of the way he speaks English.

Guy2 could have expressed it in a nicer way by saying, "Hey, I think you mean went* and their* ". That can make all the difference, while getting the same message across in a non-insulting manner.

Correct me if I am wrong but, Argonath Is supposed to be a community , that is, people acting as friends, family and a team. If somebody is from a non-English speaking country and then can actually can talk English, even if it is good or bad, surely that is a good thing?

Expecting people from all across the world to conform to "perfect" English is ridiculous, if the Argonath community was, say, a German speaking community, how much effort would you put into learning German so you can communicate with everybody?

We are a community of over 50 country's, you can't seriously expect everybody to be from an English country or have good English knowledge.

QFT.

Like I said, we are an international server - and therefore people will have different levels of English. Whats important is that we are a community and do our best to communicate with everyone and not pick on others that don't speak fluent English.

[MiltonJones]

yea... stop this

[Maxy]

I don't care if you can't speak perfect english, but at least make an attempt to write it to the best of your ability. If you're foreign, consider it a learning experience. When I type either German or English I try to speak as correctly as I can, because it just looks professional.

But obviously if there is someone who is Russian and barely knows any English, I won't be as likely to try and communicate with them, because it will be pointlessly difficult.

There is a reason English is the main language of this server.

[BlackEagle]

I don't see the point of being that formal in a such gaming community.

[Jingle]

If I was Guy1, I would consider that helpful now that I know my mistakes.

You do not see how that was slightly insulting? Look at the first 2 words "OMG FAIL". He may think that Guy2 is making fun of the way he speaks English.

What's your point? I know it is insulting, and AFAIK hardly anyone really does get offended by that.

Guy2 could have expressed it in a nicer way by saying, "Hey, I think you mean went* and their* ". That can make all the difference, while getting the same message across in a non-insulting manner.

Exactly, Guy1 is getting the same message across in another manner; it is still the same message. About expressing it in a nicer way, I wouldn't get my hopes up - this is the Internet (I find it ironic that we don't have to know English well, yet we must be gentlemen and cavaliers when it comes to expressing ourselves on the web).
If you are that worried about people mocking your grammar, how about attempting to fix it? It's not so backbreaking.

[Aragorn]

I myself got many google translated messages on Russian...
I can honestly say that some of them took me a time to understand... And even a help from Gandalf... 
But no way I will write an answer like: lol learn first Russian then come to me or OMG FAIL You must write this or that sentence in other way!!!!

Opposite, I do respect such attempts of players and it shows me that they respect me as well... And I have no worries to try to understand them...

I think English speaking players just do not respect others because they think that all should know English by the default...
They do not understand what is this for foreigner to know a foreign language, to talk on it and even to think on it...

So I suggest those who do not like Argonath players talking bad English - try to talk with them on their language... Then you will understand what work is that and, probably, you will start respect them, not just as dude from net who sucks in your perfect English...

[Void]

...try to talk with them on their language... Then you will understand what work is that and, probably, you will start respect them, not just as dude from net who sucks in your perfect English...

Blame the imperialism and the colonial besieging.

[Frank_Hawk]

Great point Void, have a read of the following:

By the time the British left India in 1947 they had given the subcontinent a number of priceless assets, including the English language, but also a structure of good government, local organisation and logistical infrastructure that still holds good today. Far from damaging India, British imperial rule gave it a head start. At the centre of this was the Indian Civil Service, the 1,000 strong "heaven-born" group of administrators that ran the country. Their role in laying the foundations for strong, efficient government in India has never been accorded the respect and admiration it deserves.

While history has recorded that the ICS were aloof and disdainful of the "natives", in reality, the men who ran India were selfless, efficient and - most importantly of all - completely incorruptible.  Not only did they oversee the spread of good government, western education, modern medicine and the rule of law, they also put in place local works, famine relief, and irrigation projects, most notably in the Punjab, which benefited enormously from what was then the largest irrigation project in the world.

Perhaps the most priceless asset of all was the English language itself, which gave a unity to the subcontinent that it had never known before and which is allowing India's people to do business around the world today with great success. Indeed, it is indicative of this that in February 2011, a Dalit (formerly untouchable) community in Uttar Pradesh built a shrine to the goddess English, which they believe will help them learn the English language and climb out of their grinding poverty.

Although Britain was not able to replicate its success in India everywhere across its vast colonial empire, it is still clear the empire gave its colonies real, tangible benefits. Wherever the British ruled, they erected a light, relatively inexpensive form of government that was not corrupt, was stable, and was favourable to outside investors. Its imperial civil servants may not always have been completely sympathetic to local peoples, but they were always motivated by humanitarian impulses and did their best in often difficult circumstances. Indeed, when we look at Africa, many of the benefits of imperial rule were squandered in the generations after independence with a succession of corrupt and brutal regimes.

[Murdock]

Look at it this way:
Person who doesnt know Egnlish comes to the server _______________________________________ ______________________________ Now he has much server experience.
                                                                                     (time to become a pro without good english skills)
Person with great Egnlish skills comes to the server _____________________ Now he has much server experience.

Doesnt matter how ling a person plays the server. If he doesnt know English you have bad communication with him and Im for an example wouldn't accept someone with whom I wont be able to communicate.

If its a person with high English skills, he will learn quickly and I will be able to teach him quickly.

[Green-Eye]

The way I see it is If I can communicate with some well and have them Understand me and I understand them, then there is no problem. I'm from Canada, so English is my Primary Language. If someone is trying to communicate with me, and I don't understand them, I be honest and tell them. It's no big deal and it's not like it should offend them.

[CharlieKasper]

Great point Void, have a read of the following:

By the time the British left India in 1947 they had given the subcontinent a number of priceless assets, including the English language, but also a structure of good government, local organisation and logistical infrastructure that still holds good today. Far from damaging India, British imperial rule gave it a head start. At the centre of this was the Indian Civil Service, the 1,000 strong "heaven-born" group of administrators that ran the country. Their role in laying the foundations for strong, efficient government in India has never been accorded the respect and admiration it deserves.

While history has recorded that the ICS were aloof and disdainful of the "natives", in reality, the men who ran India were selfless, efficient and - most importantly of all - completely incorruptible.  Not only did they oversee the spread of good government, western education, modern medicine and the rule of law, they also put in place local works, famine relief, and irrigation projects, most notably in the Punjab, which benefited enormously from what was then the largest irrigation project in the world.

Perhaps the most priceless asset of all was the English language itself, which gave a unity to the subcontinent that it had never known before and which is allowing India's people to do business around the world today with great success. Indeed, it is indicative of this that in February 2011, a Dalit (formerly untouchable) community in Uttar Pradesh built a shrine to the goddess English, which they believe will help them learn the English language and climb out of their grinding poverty.

Although Britain was not able to replicate its success in India everywhere across its vast colonial empire, it is still clear the empire gave its colonies real, tangible benefits. Wherever the British ruled, they erected a light, relatively inexpensive form of government that was not corrupt, was stable, and was favourable to outside investors. Its imperial civil servants may not always have been completely sympathetic to local peoples, but they were always motivated by humanitarian impulses and did their best in often difficult circumstances. Indeed, when we look at Africa, many of the benefits of imperial rule were squandered in the generations after independence with a succession of corrupt and brutal regimes.

Well said Frank. I respect Britishers because of the assets they gave us. They ceased 'Sati', ceased Discrimination among high caste and low caste of Hindus. And gave us the most valuable asset, English. Nowadays in India, A person with a little or no English knowledge can't keep up with others, Can't get a basic job with at least a decent Income.

[boostboy]

How about you guys add a Spelling check on the forums? it coud help..

[Que]

How about you guys add a Spelling check on the forums? it coud help..

Use Google Chrome, Firefox or whatever, there's already a spelling checker added.

[boostboy]

Use Google Chrome, Firefox or whatever, there's already a spelling checker added.

Well, there is a spelling check..but if its sayd to Dutch, and it wo,t correct your mistakes or give you sudgestions...its worthless

[Que]

Set it to English instead of Dutch.
Also, from a friend to another: said* (should be set), won't*, suggestions*, it's* 
If you feel offended by this, please tell me.