Is the RP really dead?: The answer

[Leroy]

As both an Admin and a cop, I have seen many times, that a horde of criminals attacks every cop they see, ironically led sometimes by i9 members. GS9 has become a DM zone.
 
I'm both sad and disgusted. I used to appreciate i9 for helping new players get started, even on the criminal side, now I'm seeing more and more "f**k DA POLICE" and killing than RP. If a cop lingers at GS9 for over a minute, he'll end up getting shot. Some example for the new players there.
 
Before you accuse me of being one-sided, keep in mind I am also an outspoken critic of SAPD.
 
This DM has got to stop... less DM, less reasons for people to complain about lack of RP.

  I disagree with the statement about Inferno 9.
Being experienced in the Law Enforcement, I can tell you Inferno 9 and many SAPD members are on friendly terms out of role play matters.
Their extreme rebellious attitude and actions are produced to reflect the life of a real Ghetto location, like in real life, which is role played through this talented group. I have never had a problem with them, or have seen them randomly attack people or provoke Death matching, those who join their events to do so are the ones to blame, such as an outdoor DD event and some Mass killer comes along with a Shamal, diving nose first blowing everything in the area to smithereens.

  Each time I've came across these 'Jungle Calls' and events made from the group, I have had nothing but good enjoyment from their role play, they are laid back and relaxed, with role play which attaches you to engage with it. Even through the role-reversal, which you, yourself suggested to have, I acted as a Grove Street gangster, based on i9, and organized a Jungle Call, all who attended didn't randomly death match anyone, and most of the participants were actually the original members who usually join the Inferno 9 event.
You cannot tag a group as a team of Death matchers unless you've seen it from their eyes also, and the opposing side, basing it on their style of role-play of rebellious hoodlums will not get you the correct evaluation to prove they're death matchers.

[JDC]

  I disagree with the statement about Inferno 9.
Being experienced in the Law Enforcement, I can tell you Inferno 9 and many SAPD members are on friendly terms out of role play matters.
Their extreme rebellious attitude and actions are produced to reflect the life of a real Ghetto location, like in real life, which is role played through this talented group. I have never had a problem with them, or have seen them randomly attack people or provoke Death matching, those who join their events to do so are the ones to blame, such as an outdoor DD event and some Mass killer comes along with a Shamal, diving nose first blowing everything in the area to smithereens.

  Each time I've came across these 'Jungle Calls' and events made from the group, I have had nothing but good enjoyment from their role play, they are laid back and relaxed, with role play which attaches you to engage with it. Even through the role-reversal, which you, yourself suggested to have, I acted as a Grove Street gangster, based on i9, and organized a Jungle Call, all who attended didn't randomly death match anyone, and most of the participants were actually the original members who usually join the Inferno 9 event.
You cannot tag a group as a team of Death matchers unless you've seen it from their eyes also, and the opposing side, basing it on their style of role-play of rebellious hoodlums will not get you the correct evaluation to prove they're death matchers.

  Then tell me if I was high, drunk, intoxicated, or hallucinating when I saw what I saw at GS9. There has yet to come a day when I am on at peak hours and I do not receive a report or a PM from a player about rulebreaking going on at or related to GS9.

  True, I suggested Role Reversal Week, and in spite of several who refused to participate, I am happy that those who did had fun for a week, and got to walk in the shoes of the guys they normally try to defeat.

  I am not prejudicing against these criminals automatically simply because they are hoodlums or criminals... I myself know some respectable criminals who never have an issue with almost anyone. Problem is, the problems at GS9 I have spoken of are factual events I have observed at GS9, both as cop and an admin.

[Jubin]

. Problem is, the problems at GS9 I have spoken of are factual events I have observed at GS9, both as cop and an admin.

Then JDC I reccomend for you to make a personal role-reversal week, where you are a balla for a week and hang out with i9 and NBA members. To also get their perspective.

[Que]

  Then tell me if I was high, drunk, intoxicated, or hallucinating when I saw what I saw at GS9. There has yet to come a day when I am on at peak hours and I do not receive a report or a PM from a player about rulebreaking going on at or related to GS9.

  True, I suggested Role Reversal Week, and in spite of several who refused to participate, I am happy that those who did had fun for a week, and got to walk in the shoes of the guys they normally try to defeat.

  I am not prejudicing against these criminals automatically simply because they are hoodlums or criminals... I myself know some respectable criminals who never have an issue with almost anyone. Problem is, the problems at GS9 I have spoken of are factual events I have observed at GS9, both as cop and an admin.

Inferno 9 ain't no death matchers, nor is any of the Grove Street. But remember; controlling 30 ballas or 30 Groves might the hardest thing you can do in-game. You cannot actually think that all of these people will listen to everything you say. All of these players got different mindsets, yet they will listen to almost everything you say; but they won't do it all, and it might end up bad sometimes.. It's basically impossible to imagine something else.

[EminemRulez]

You're judging the whole crew, [i9], because of some random balla who 'deathmatched' a cop..

We've got a few threads like this, haven't we?

[Murt]

People these days are just pathetic and incapable if they say that the roleplay on Argonath is dead. Where did the creativity go? Did it vanish?
It's so easy to create roleplay, I really love the roleplay who comes and I use my imagination to do it good.

I see roleplay everywhere I go, without the roleplay on the server it's nothing. If you want to deathmatch, go to a deathmatch server. If you want to stunt and be z000mg elite go to the stunt server. But of course you can stunt on the ArgonathRPG server aswell.
Maybe everyone is not roleplaying to their highest capability as a person, but that doesn't mean the roleplay is dead.

@JCS About GS9, of course it's a warzone since "almost" every suspect on the server hangs around Idlewood and the law enforcement has to go there.
People fly planes into the whole crowd of people and killing them as Hudson stated.

And it's not deathmatch going on from the i9 crew nor the NBA, I as a balla get provoked every day. It can be avoided if I quit the server or drive away 50 miles, but that doesn't fit my image since I'm the gangster. And don't forget that there are many new players there who are unsure of the rules, they could easily kill people without knowing it's wrong.

[newguy]

Roleplay isn't dead,but it isn't very active too.

I mean,do you remember how we used to RP in bars,hotels? Where did all that go? The most i see is cops and criminals now.Note:The Most,not all.
I'm not going to say more in this post,because it's most likely i gonna get attacked.


So yea.Where did all the neutral RP go? I still can see well enough,and what i see,is that there isn't neutral bar,hotel,or some other RP of that kind.

[ChasKa]

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Sometimes, the players disgruntled with roleplay or the ZOMG SRS roleplayers will join others at GS9 and go AFK, or will wait for cops to come and attack when one of their own is a suspect.

Is it?

In the first place,I don't wanna post it tbh.As long as I understand the situation and losing money is not a big deal for me tho I'm poor. cos it's nothing to be good to post about to splashing more negativity to the police and I am not the one who are into a war of "Criminal VS cop"Thread again and again.
 I post it because obviously someone who don't get the picture and wrongly accusing someone which making some false image to the whole group and people.
Saying:it's only a rare and isolated incident...?Huh I wish.
Let's do some simple matching :
the ZOMG SRS roleplayers will join others at GS9 and go AFK, or will wait for cops to come and attack= ?
The one being DMed = ?

SA-MP copcrime
Even one balla,there're a shitstorm ...not to imagine when there're 10 or more people chilling and doing some /shadowbox and boxing training.

[Daco]

Is it?

In the first place,I don't wanna post it tbh. cos it's nothing to be good to post about to splashing more negativity to the police.
Yet I post it because obviously someone who don't get the picture and wrongly accusing someone.To prove the case watch it

Let's do some simple matching :
the ZOMG SRS roleplayers will join others at GS9 and go AFK, or will wait for cops to come and attack= ?
The one being DMed = ?

SA-MP copcrime

LOL OWNED

[ChasKa]

LOL OWNED

Yea Chaska_Aregas was onwed..but not a big deal....Bitter true is I was still being blamed as a cophunter/copbaiter...hard feeling if you were me?huh.?

[Daco]

Yea Chaska_Aregas was onwed..but not a big deal....Bitter true is I was still being blamed as a cophunter/copbaiter...hard feeling if you were me?huh.?

I would hunt them for the rest of my day on the server.

[Joey_DeRossi]

They're very organised and they even share the money! 
Guess you were really unlucky.

[XSniper]

It's not even mainly about gangplayers causing the DM, it's also many of the new players. Did you notice, that half of the cops that abuse are ARPD officers and new? Have you noticed wanna be gangsters with ballas skins, not part of i9 are the one DM trying to prove worthy enough to join the gang? It's all in the society and groups, if you're around your group/buddies you'll dm or not act in rp just to get attention, mainly what's happening now.

[Vice]

SA-MP copcrime

i hope those cops will get permanent ban

[Leroy]

the problems at GS9 I have spoken of are factual events I have observed at GS9, both as cop and an admin.

So does that mean that i9 are to blame for GS9 'factual events'?

If so, you would blame cops for such 'factual events' at LSPD?

Just because its populated, and yes odd things happen, including rule breaking, branding Deathmatchers on a group because they are based in that area is inaccurate.