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Reply #75 on: September 23, 2011, 02:11:54 pm
but holding down LMB has nothing to do with that, since then you'd say that colts are automatic too, since you can hold down LMB...

the weapons have limited rate of fire, so who cares much ? it doesn't take much skill to fire regular shotgun at max rate of fire, lol...is there really any difference between holding and pressing LMB? personally i don't think so

spas-12 isn't full auto in the game, it's semi...however YES, it is faster than other shotguns...that's why it's overpowered. Using other shotguns you have to use your brain and move to avoid shots, whereas due to (FOR A SHOTGUN) good Spas-12's rate of fire, all you need to do is stand in one place and spam bullets, as long as you have good aim



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Reply #76 on: September 23, 2011, 02:19:20 pm
but holding down LMB has nothing to do with that, since then you'd say that colts are automatic too, since you can hold down LMB...

the weapons have limited rate of fire, so who cares much ? it doesn't take much skill to fire regular shotgun at max rate of fire, lol...is there really any difference between holding and pressing LMB? personally i don't think so

spas-12 isn't full auto in the game, it's semi...however YES, it is faster than other shotguns...that's why it's overpowered. Using other shotguns you have to use your brain and move to avoid shots, whereas due to (FOR A SHOTGUN) good Spas-12's rate of fire, all you need to do is stand in one place and spam bullets, as long as you have good aim

holding LMB = full auto

in game most weapons are full auto

excluding Deagle, Pumpy, Sawnoff , Cuntgun and Sniper...

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Reply #77 on: September 23, 2011, 02:21:31 pm
holding LMB = full auto

in game most weapons are full auto

excluding Deagle, Pumpy, Sawnoff , Cuntgun and Sniper...
let's remove them all, they are overpowered



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Reply #78 on: September 23, 2011, 02:22:00 pm
looks like my game is broken then, if I hold down LMB the Deagle fires 'full auto' as well.. not joking.



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Reply #79 on: September 23, 2011, 02:35:42 pm
Because Deagle/9mm in GTA is technically automatic. Just with a slow rate of fire.


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Reply #80 on: September 23, 2011, 02:41:38 pm
looks like my game is broken then, if I hold down LMB the Deagle fires 'full auto' as well.. not joking.

well i consider Deagle to be semi automatic, because of the recoil having such a long recovery time

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Reply #81 on: September 23, 2011, 02:57:22 pm
well i consider Deagle to be semi automatic, because of the recoil having such a long recovery time
If you can handle the Deagle, You can see that it does shoot quite fast, And it is powerfull too, Why do you think that cops get equipped with it instead of a 9mm against suspects? That IS because supects use heavy weapons, Such as combat, Deagle SMG (some of them) and maybe an M4. But hey, What if we add a spaz to the cops aswell? Then it's more than fair enough.

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Reply #82 on: September 23, 2011, 03:38:20 pm
If you can handle the Deagle, You can see that it does shoot quite fast, And it is powerfull too, Why do you think that cops get equipped with it instead of a 9mm against suspects? That IS because supects use heavy weapons, Such as combat, Deagle SMG (some of them) and maybe an M4. But hey, What if we add a spaz to the cops aswell? Then it's more than fair enough.

would dramatically shorten shootouts ruining 80% of the server RPs

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Reply #83 on: September 23, 2011, 03:41:57 pm
Oh, so shootouts ruin RP? Sure, remove attack button from civilians - that way they won't break any 'RP'

shootouts are part of roleplay...just like chases are. Just cause there is no 10000 /me doesn't mean you have to be butthurt cause of it.

and ye, using explanation of 'every suspects having heavy weapons' is very good to give regular cops best weapons in the game, hell yeah..



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Reply #84 on: September 23, 2011, 06:55:31 pm
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Combat Shotgun - Based on the Italian SPAS-12, the combat shotgun uses a gas-operated repeater system much like any semi/fully automatic pistol or rifle. On a shell-by-shell basis, the firepower and range are only a bit greater than the regular shotgun. Given its semi-automatic functionality, however, the rate of fire is on par with that of the 9mm, meaning you'll be unloading much more ammunition on unsuspecting foes. Not only will rip through a group of enemies rather quickly, it also makes short work of cars and heli's as well. Sadly, you can't get two of these after reaching Hitman status, but then again, that might make the game entirely too easy. On the bright side though, you will be able to fire while moving and get an increased lock-on distance with some practice.
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Reply #85 on: September 23, 2011, 07:17:19 pm
why do you base on RL thing, when the stats in-game are different for almost every weapon?

but yes, calling pistols/spas 'full auto' just cause the delay between shots is smaller than with deagle, is wrong indeed. Full-auto is basicly full-auto, having to press or hold down LMB has nothing to do with it..

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Tec-9 = full auto
Deagle = semi-auto
Pistols = semi-auto
Spas = semi-auto

you can say Spas is faster than any shotgun, but you can't say it's full auto...because it isn't



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Reply #86 on: September 23, 2011, 11:46:20 pm
Fire mode does not depend on rate of fire. Just because something shoots fast, does not make it full auto. That said, something firing with a slow rate of fire, does not make it semi auto, if it still shoots consecutive shots while holding down the trigger.

And stop bringing real life gun comparsions to guns in the game. They're irrelevant.


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Reply #87 on: September 24, 2011, 12:18:09 am
Yes, full auto is when you can hold down the trigger and the bullets spray - but IG, you can see that even if you hold down LMB, character is seen pulling the trigger each shot, not HOLDING, with Spas for example. Thus, saying Spas is full-automatic, is wrong.

However MP5 is.



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Reply #88 on: September 24, 2011, 12:38:49 am
Oh, so shootouts ruin RP? Sure, remove attack button from civilians - that way they won't break any 'RP'

no i said giving cops combat would ruin RP shootouts.
because EVERYONE would be packing combats then... cept for the real players

Yes, full auto is when you can hold down the trigger and the bullets spray - but IG, you can see that even if you hold down LMB, character is seen pulling the trigger each shot, not HOLDING, with Spas for example. Thus, saying Spas is full-automatic, is wrong.

However MP5 is.
actually u cant see the character do jackshit, cept for stand in a pose while the gun pumps out lead (full auto)
like it or not, spas, 9mm, etc are indeed full auto in GTA:SA ... until it is scriptable to change how guns fire (weapon handling .ini  or watever it is) they will stay full auto

if it was semi auto, we'd all be f--ked because theyd fire 10 times as fast

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Reply #89 on: September 24, 2011, 06:17:24 am
no i said giving cops combat would ruin RP shootouts.
because EVERYONE would be packing combats then... cept for the real players
actually u cant see the character do jackshit, cept for stand in a pose while the gun pumps out lead (full auto)
like it or not, spas, 9mm, etc are indeed full auto in GTA:SA ... until it is scriptable to change how guns fire (weapon handling .ini  or watever it is) they will stay full auto

if it was semi auto, we'd all be f--ked because theyd fire 10 times as fast

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