Is this illegal?

[Stefanrsb]

I was looking the way to sell my  not by driving on the streets and asking everyone "Wanna buy some weed?" - Which is pretty much annoying to everyone.
So i did this:


And after i did that,this happened:


So now i want to know,is this really illegal? Becouse maybe if i WAS selling the grass for yards and stadiums with bit of RolePlay,what would happen than?

[Antonio.]

As stated MANY times before, it is still illegal if you are using such advertisements to hide what you are really trying to sell, as JDC calls them, "Ninja Advertisements". Now, if you tell admins that your advertisement is really about what it says, don't complain if you get a ban if they find out that you were really buying or selling drugs.

[newguy]

You should try using something that's not as obvious as that.

[Ben.]

The advertisement doesn't look illegal to me...if I saw it IRL I'd be like "Yeah, cool story"...not like "OMG, I'm gonna go buy weed off him"  :roll:

I've always argued that the Law Enforcement agencies should deal with illegal advertisements...not administrators. However, its a delicate discussion...if the advert looks legal, then some could say it is irrelevant whether or not you are actually selling weed, as it isn't shown as an illegal advertisement. 

[Kojak]

You should try using something that's not as obvious as that.

This is the point. If it's this obvious, then it's obvious to admins too. If you are so clever with your ads that the admins don't notice, you'll be fine. But if we know, we'll put a stop to it. You're probably better off roughing it out on the streets amongst the other crooks and villains.

I've always argued that the Law Enforcement agencies should deal with illegal advertisements...not administrators.

I agree with that, but it has been tried and general chat was spammed to hell and back and that was the end of that.

[Stefanrsb]

As stated MANY times before, it is still illegal if you are using such advertisements to hide what you are really trying to sell, as JDC calls them, "Ninja Advertisements". Now, if you tell admins that your advertisement is really about what it says, don't complain if you get a ban if they find out that you were really buying or selling drugs.

No,i was selling weed,but maybe someone other selled the real grass..

The advertisement doesn't look illegal to me...if I saw it IRL I'd be like "Yeah, cool story"...not like "OMG, I'm gonna go buy weed off him"  :roll:

Exactly.

[Antonio.]

I agree with that, but it has been tried and general chat was spammed to hell and back and that was the end of that.

Admins can be stricter about the spamming, or add a time between each advertisement you made... That way, cops have more action, and criminals have it easier.

[Kojak]

Admins can be stricter about the spamming, or add a time between each advertisement you made... That way, cops have more action, and criminals have it easier.

Admins have enough to contend with as it is, the cops already have plenty of action, and the criminal way of life should not necessarily be easier; risk/reward.

[Antonio.]

When you are posting an advertisement that is illegal, you are going in at a big risk, since that can be redirected to the FBI, and more and more illegal stuff can add up, and really get you into a lot of trouble.

[Comrade]

Aragorn said that

As a non roleplay stuff it can be warned by admin...

So what I understood from that post is that if you type "/ad selling weed", it's against the rules.
If you disguise it, it's legal.
However, it must not be too obvious.
It's untrue that if admins notice it at all, they punish. They only punish if it's too obvious.
If you disguise it cleverly and roleplay-like, creating some nice opportunities, it's allowed even if admins realise it's a drug deal.

[Mashgash]

Well, the point is like this.

Take the /ad commands as a newspaper.

Do you see ''[man] selling drugs, contact [phonenumber]'' in the newspaper in your country? I don't see it in Sweden atleast.

Drugs should be sold and advertised on the streets, work your way up on the streets and you'll get calls as soon as you getting online.
All about creativity.

[Stefanrsb]

maybe if i WAS selling the grass for yards and stadiums with bit of RolePlay,what would happen than?

You can see people IRL buying and selling grass for the yards,stadiums etc. Do they go to police for that? (Or get kicked?) You cant kick me for roleplay. :poke:

[ChasKa]

One question:Do battle ask you whether you're selling real "Grass" or garden grass?

From the advertisement,it shows clearly that it is for stadium which is in common sense it is for gardening(From the meaning of the ad itself)
If battle hasn't ask anything,I'll say by benefit of doubt,you have not break any rules by just advertiseing selling grass for garden.
Post Merge: October 30, 2011, 09:33:27 am

Do you see ''[man] selling drugs, contact [phonenumber]'' in the newspaper in your country? I don't see it in Sweden atleast.

What is illegal ads?
E.g.
Hiring killer to kill some ppl
Selling weed
selling guns
All of them clearly shows it is illegal ad,no doubt.

however,his advertisement stated He is just selling grass for stadium..which is not illegal
Do you see there're advertisement about relaying the pitch service for football court and gardens and parks in your country?
Whether people will relate it to drug  or not is another story,whether he is selling drug or not is another story
but the /ad itself is legal in all circumstances.
whether the seller is selling something supicious,it is police matter,but not administrative matter.

[Kojak]

When rule breaking is this obvious, admins do not need to ask and if they did ask about such things I would question their ability to be an admin.

Regarding illegal ads being a police matter and not an administrative matter, just read the earlier threads and you will see that has been addressed.

[ChasKa]

When rule breaking is this obvious, admins do not need to ask and if they did ask about such things I would question their ability to be an admin.

How is advertising grass for stadium relaying and gardening illegal?
From Hess..One of the Argonath team scripter/admin have replied this on topic
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=73047.15

"Firstly, doing "/ad BUYING SUGAR" is not at all an illegal ad. Sure, it could lead to an illegal trade but the advertisement itself is not illegal. I don't mind seeing ads such as "buying sugar" or "buying grass", and I honestly don't see why it should be disallowed... people are simply hiding the fact that what they are doing is illegal, and that in itself is what I'd consider to be part of roleplay. If the police are suspicious of an ad like that, they can go investigate. What's the problem?

Secondly, do you honestly think when people do these ads that they are trying to be a "smartass" and "cheat" on admins? That is the main part I disagreed with...

IMO, there is nothing wrong with doing such ads, and they should not be considered as "illegal" if they are hidden by a "legal" ad."

So....would you mind defining what means "illegal ads"?
Or we should not have words like "Grass,sugar" in ad?
One more question..we know /ad selling gun is illegal...it's common sense
However, is /ad Selling gun shop at Market considered as illegal? as it will be "related" to illegal guns deal but selling a bizz itself is not illegal.