Ultranationalist Terrorist Cell [U] Main Power of Bone County

[McGarrett]

Ceasing roleplay is one thing. Provoking and throwing false accusations towards me or the U.S.A.A is another. I ask you kindly to remove those.

Think about how you insulted me in PM. Don't bring your crap into my topic please.


End of discussion.

[aleksandar_gojkovic]

InGame Nick: Aleksandar_Gojkovic
Nationality: Mother Serbia
Do you have any difficulties speaking English?: Nope
Why do you want to join the apprenticeship program at Ultranationalist Terrorist Cell?:
It is beackose the LAW has been crushing me for very long time! I wanna retaliate to the goverment and army!
Plus i want to to try out new kinds of RP.

P.S. ALL APPLICATIONS TO ALL MILITARY SQUADS ARE WITHDRAWN FROM THIS MOMENT ON!!!

[McGarrett]

InGame Nick: Aleksandar_Gojkovic
Nationality: Mother Serbia
Do you have any difficulties speaking English?: Nope
Why do you want to join the apprenticeship program at Ultranationalist Terrorist Cell?:
It is beackose the LAW has been crushing me for very long time! I wanna retaliate to the goverment and army!
Plus i want to to try out new kinds of RP.

P.S. ALL APPLICATIONS TO ALL MILITARY SQUADS ARE WITHDRAWN FROM THIS MOMENT ON!!!

Approved, Welcome to the Apprenticeship program. Please ask me, or Lanonymus_Akira for CB authority - Makarov

[Salmonella]

Think about how you insulted me in PM. Don't bring your crap into my topic please.

I think it is very childish to cease any form of activity with the U.S.A.A just because you lost a discussion in PM. I understand that you might be upset, I did not realize you were too vulnerable and unable to receive constructive critism. I did not mean to provoke or insult you, and I wish you would understand that.

I cannot change the way you think, but I will have to ask you not to insult me and my group in public. This is an act of immaturity that is uncalled for and also, disallowed. I once again, with all respect, kindly ask you to remove the insults and attempted provoking. If you are not able to do that, I will have to go furthur and get someone else to do this.

Once again, I strongly urge you to reconsider your very hasty decisions, based on a personal conversation, that -you- initiated. The Ultranationalists, are in my opinion a group in its beginning stages. I have my personal opinions, which you are aware of, but I am not going to be immature about them, and stop roleplaying with your group either, am I? The concept is promising, and the U.S.A.A would be a good chance for your group to find some community roleplay.

[McGarrett]

I think it is very childish to cease any form of activity with the U.S.A.A just because you lost a discussion in PM. I understand that you might be upset, I did not realize you were too vulnerable and unable to receive constructive critism. I did not mean to provoke or insult you, and I wish you would understand that.

I cannot change the way you think, but I will have to ask you not to insult me and my group in public. This is an act of immaturity that is uncalled for and also, disallowed. I once again, with all respect, kindly ask you to remove the insults and attempted provoking. If you are not able to do that, I will have to go furthur and get someone else to do this.

Once again, I strongly urge you to reconsider your very hasty decisions, based on a personal conversation, that -you- initiated. The Ultranationalists, are in my opinion a group in its beginning stages. I have my personal opinions, which you are aware of, but I am not going to be immature about them, and stop roleplaying with your group either, am I? The concept is promising, and the U.S.A.A would be a good chance for your group to find some community roleplay.

Childish? Really? I did not even lose a discussion with you. I ended it and PMed Shejken instead so he could handle you. First of all you are constantly disrespecting me, even going as far as criticize me for my English grammar. I told you 1 simple goal I had, and that was to create more roleplay between cops and criminals, and instead of wishing me good luck on that part, you started criticizing me on that part too.

You are right, you cannot change the way I think, just like the way you managed it with the stupid comment "Your group info is bullshit and the Niko Bellic part is just ridiculous" and for your information, I have my own fantasy, that is the good part with Argonath RPG. You can add anyone you'd like to the reserved roles of your group. Even if I added Britney Spears, it wouldn't concern you.

The personal conversation as you presented offended me and what I represent. And you are right, Ultranationalist Terrorist Cell is at the beginner level, but does it really look like I've given up? I am running this group to the bitter end, and nobody can stop me unless a warrant from the upper-command.

Everybody have their own opinions and meanings. That is a good thing? Isn't it? But you shouldn't express them to me via an insulting method. Don't you think you offended me? I am surprised to see this kind of attitude and behavior from a previous SA:MP Administrative. You are acting ridiculous towards me and some of my friends. Even TheSheep, which you constantly laughed at when I PMed you about how tough period he has. You constantly ignored it. Again, I'm surprised. Even how far you want to go when you think a person is lying, then you should accept what they say there and not keep provoking them. You got no proves that he even lied.

However, I will not withdraw what I wrote about you. U.S.A.A is an innocent victim in this situation, but as long as you are provoking me and my group, I do not wish to roleplay with you or U.S.A.A until I've seen a change.


Kind regards

[Conk]

+1

[Nathan_Alexandrov]

Thank you for defending me through that, I will not forget it.
To Salmonella: Please sort out your attitude it will give U.S.A.A and yourself a bad reputation if you dont. This isnt a threat or an insult, its constructive criticism.

[Salmonella]

Childish? Really? I did not even lose a discussion with you. I ended it and PMed Shejken instead so he could handle you. First of all you are constantly disrespecting me, even going as far as criticize me for my English grammar. I told you 1 simple goal I had, and that was to create more roleplay between cops and criminals, and instead of wishing me good luck on that part, you started criticizing me on that part too.

Childish indeed. You are ceasing any form of activity between a group that you are in charge of, and the group that I am in charge of, for something personal. You are therefore limiting your group and its members from roleplaying its perfect roleplay nemesis ; the army. I very much believe that is a sign of childishness. The conversation between us two did end, because I did not want to continue talking to someone without getting a constructive reply. ''Oh really?'' for over five times, is not very amusing to hear for a conversation partner.

Shejken did PM me and I explained the what happened ; no action was taken, I wasn't ''handled'', thank you very much. I am not disrespecting you or even trying to disrespect you. If you feel disrespected, then I would like to sort that out as soon as possible. There is no need to feel disrespected, because it was never my intention to disrespect you. I never did anything to you to disrespect you. Like any other player in Argonath, I respect you equally.

I had a comment about the grammar you used, because you asked me to explain my friendly and constructive critism. I did not even directly or necessarily make any comments on your grammar. I made a comment about the grammar used in the first post, I did not know that you were the one that wrote it, although that would be most likely.

I have wished you goodluck for more than three times now. I did not say that your ''goals'' aren't good ones. They are good goals, they're just not goals that a group, individually, should concentrate on, and I explained to you, that it's something you should work on yourself, and that the Ultranationalists should concentrate on being themselfs. It was a neutral comment and I am very surprised you were actually offended by it.

You are right, you cannot change the way I think, just like the way you managed it with the stupid comment "Your group info is bullshit and the Niko Bellic part is just ridiculous" and for your information, I have my own fantasy, that is the good part with Argonath RPG. You can add anyone you'd like to the reserved roles of your group. Even if I added Britney Spears, it wouldn't concern you.

It is understandable that I cannot change the way you think. You are entitled to your own opinions, it is just a shame that others are a victim of it. My ''stupid'' comment was not an action, but a reaction. Also, it was something different than what you appear to quote. I do not recall expressing myself in such a vulgar manner.

Imagination is a good thing. Without imagination it is impossible to roleplay, at all. You are blindly assuming that I don't ''support'' imagination, because I made a comment about your reserved roles. The reserved roles are indeed something that does not concern me. The fact that I said something about it at all, was because you asked me to. It is very frustrating, having to defend myself against things I more or less said, only because you are not showing your own comments. I would never have made any comment about your group if you did not invite me to elaborate on the subject.

The personal conversation as you presented offended me and what I represent. And you are right, Ultranationalist Terrorist Cell is at the beginner level, but does it really look like I've given up? I am running this group to the bitter end, and nobody can stop me unless a warrant from the upper-command.

It is a shame that the conversation we've had, offended you. I did not, and never did mean to offend you. It is a huge shame that you won't believe me on that, it would solve this issue faster. The group is in its beginning stages, not necessarily at a ''beginner's level''. This does not say anything about the group, because the cycle of life just works that way. You can't start anything without going through that phase. Everything on Earth has its beginning.

I want to make another thing clear, once again. I want the Ultranationalists to stay in Argonath, as long as it can exist. I believe the concept is a very irregular one, and a very hard one that requires a lot of interest, just like the U.S.A.A. The group is one that delivers and requires. It delivers roleplay scenarios that are rare to see in Argonath ( or any other SA:MP roleplay server, for that matter. ) and it requires interest from potential applicants and potential enemies, to roleplay with. It is good to see that you are willing to put this much effort into the group and its concept, because this has not been seen in the history of Argonath. There have been similair groups with the same concept, but never this motivated.

Everybody have their own opinions and meanings. That is a good thing? Isn't it? But you shouldn't express them to me via an insulting method. Don't you think you offended me? I am surprised to see this kind of attitude and behavior from a previous SA:MP Administrative. You are acting ridiculous towards me and some of my friends. Even TheSheep, which you constantly laughed at when I PMed you about how tough period he has. You constantly ignored it. Again, I'm surprised. Even how far you want to go when you think a person is lying, then you should accept what they say there and not keep provoking them. You got no proves that he even lied.

Indeed, everyone has their own opinions, like I stated previously in this post. It is something you cannot surpass and cannot simply deny. Opinions are what defines us and causes discussions. We have had a discussion and it is truely a shame that you did not wish to continue it. A discussion like that requires compassion, respect, calmth, understanding and many other attributes, from both sides. I controlled those attributes, and I felt like you were able to do so too. In the latter parts of our conversation, that did not seem to be the case, hence me ceasing the conversation.

I am acting far from ridiculous towards anyone. I am a former SA:MP Administrator, and that should only encourage you to have a bit more compassion towards me, when in a conversation with me. It's a shame that did not happen.

The ''TheSheep'' case is something I would not like to bring into this. I'm afraid you don't know half of that, but I can tell you a bit more non-classified information about it in private, if interested.

Yours Sincerely,

Salmonella

[Nathan_Alexandrov]

The ''TheSheep'' case is something I would not like to bring into this. I'm afraid you don't know half of that, but I can tell you a bit more non-classified information about it in private, if interested.

I can tell you that he does and that is because I have spoken to him on this matter he knows all about it. You are the one who doesnt know half of the "case" as when I try to explain you are too stubborn and refuse to believe the truth so dont tell others they dont know because all you know is the rough outlines. Lastly can we take this somewhere else its unfair on the Ultranationalist group that we are bickering here

[McGarrett]

Childish indeed. You are ceasing any form of activity between a group that you are in charge of, and the group that I am in charge of, for something personal. You are therefore limiting your group and its members from roleplaying its perfect roleplay nemesis ; the army. I very much believe that is a sign of childishness. The conversation between us two did end, because I did not want to continue talking to someone without getting a constructive reply. ''Oh really?'' for over five times, is not very amusing to hear for a conversation partner.

Shejken did PM me and I explained the what happened ; no action was taken, I wasn't ''handled'', thank you very much. I am not disrespecting you or even trying to disrespect you. If you feel disrespected, then I would like to sort that out as soon as possible. There is no need to feel disrespected, because it was never my intention to disrespect you. I never did anything to you to disrespect you. Like any other player in Argonath, I respect you equally.

I had a comment about the grammar you used, because you asked me to explain my friendly and constructive critism. I did not even directly or necessarily make any comments on your grammar. I made a comment about the grammar used in the first post, I did not know that you were the one that wrote it, although that would be most likely.

I have wished you goodluck for more than three times now. I did not say that your ''goals'' aren't good ones. They are good goals, they're just not goals that a group, individually, should concentrate on, and I explained to you, that it's something you should work on yourself, and that the Ultranationalists should concentrate on being themselfs. It was a neutral comment and I am very surprised you were actually offended by it.

First of all, I do not repeat "really" five times in a row. It would be childish of me standing there and arguing with a player that does not even understand where my limit goes. Yes, you offended me when you accused me for grammar issues. In fact, I study International English, jurisprudence, psychology, geology and criminology. However, that is a off-topic subject.

And you are right, Ultranationalist Terrorist Cell and the Army are two great roleplay rivals. I've putted so much efforts in my group, and I still am. But, I do not even tolerate hearing childish criticizing of my group in an insulting manner. If you spoke properly, I would've replied, but I felt that you grew your aggression, I've never presented any crap of your leaders, why should you do it to mine? Niko Bellic was a good imagination and a motivation for this group. I want to make history with this project, and if I didn't have the motivation with me, I'd just give it up right away, but instead. I want it to grow, because I think that it would be really cool running and being in charge of the biggest Call of Duty Modern Warfare alternative in Argonath RPG. Which I will run to the bitter end.

It is understandable that I cannot change the way you think. You are entitled to your own opinions, it is just a shame that others are a victim of it. My ''stupid'' comment was not an action, but a reaction. Also, it was something different than what you appear to quote. I do not recall expressing myself in such a vulgar manner.

Imagination is a good thing. Without imagination it is impossible to roleplay, at all. You are blindly assuming that I don't ''support'' imagination, because I made a comment about your reserved roles. The reserved roles are indeed something that does not concern me. The fact that I said something about it at all, was because you asked me to. It is very frustrating, having to defend myself against things I more or less said, only because you are not showing your own comments. I would never have made any comment about your group if you did not invite me to elaborate on the subject.

So, if it was not an action as you present, but a reaction, who did even grant authority for commenting my reserved roles? I can assure you that I did not give you any kind of stupid invitation of that kind of manners. And, no. I am not accusing you for not supporting any kind of imagination. I am saying that you commented with an insulting method on mine. Which is another point that offends me. I can't even recall that I have given you any authority to elaborate the subject on my group.

I am not spreading false accusations. I am saying that I do not wish to roleplay with you in the future if you cannot behave. I from the impression I had from the conversation In Game, and I already told you to drop the subject in my topic. I don't want this to be over flooded, but actually able to talk about something regarding this group more than this situation that both of us performed.

I've never said I didn't wish any advices or criticizing on my group, but I want it to be shown with manner, and not an insulting method as you presented. And another fact, you even claimed that I made "stupid" reports from what my group does, this may be a new thing to you, but I think it is a good way to advertise the roleplay the Ultranationalist Terrorist Cell performs daily.

In my eyes, you did not criticize my group in a nice way, but with a disgusting insulting method. I would not have notified my members not to roleplay with you if you didn't show this kind of manners.

Instead of running and over flood my topic with this kind of discussions that could be brought to PM, I think you could rather say "sorry for offending you" instead of keep criticizing and make corrections.


Regards

[Conk]

Yours Sincerely,

Salmonella

Regards

My ass.

[McGarrett]

Me and Salmonella has reached an agreement. Now let's quit this childish manners and continue our roleplays.


BEST REGARDS
Makarov

[Salmonella]

Good to see that you were willing to fix it. Let's hope we can both learn from this and will be able to prevend this from happening in the future. Thank you.

My ass.

+1

Your presence and interference in this topic or conversation is not contributing anything of use to anything or anyone. I think MrBorsh and I can both agree on that too. 

[Julio.]

Your presence and interference in this topic or conversation is not contributing anything of use to anything or anyone. I think MrBorsh and I can both agree on that too.

Indeed. Another ban would do him good.

[Conk]

Indeed. Another ban would do him good.

Excuse me?

Incase you hadnt noticed, this is the forum, not SAMP