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on: January 13, 2012, 01:36:45 pm
Hell-o.

Events are funded by [R*] team. Reason? They can give a special payday to 1 person, they dont give money from their pockets. So these days, events only happen when Managers are online.

Proposal:
Admins (not moderators) would have 2 bank accounts.
1: Personal Account
2: Event Account

Managers would give each Admin some Event Money. Lets say, $20,000 for now. (I hope you see where im going with this)
Then when Admin runs out of Event Money, Admin would have to talk to managers, and tell the manager, how the money was spent. What kinds of events were made, what kind of prizes were given. If everything was reasonable, manager would fill the Events account by another $20,000, Unless asked for more.

This system could be also used to see, how involving admins are, as I have witnesed quite a few admins/moderators who join just to stay afk.. (no names) This would show Admins activity better than anything.

Again, this would be for Admins only, maybe it could be Optional?

Same rules would apply: Asking for event = No Event.


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Prior to the above idea. It would make Admins more of Entertainers, wouldnt it? Is there something wrong with that? You decide.
If for Admins to host events is wrong, couse they should help players, deal with reports and maintain mainchat in order, and not entertain the server.
Then the [R*] Team should do exactly the same?

Idea #2.

Have "Entertainment Team" or "Event Team"? Thus expanding the Argonath Goverment.
It would be highly controled by above force, that would be, the managers.
and the best thing would be, It would take the work load off Developers and Managers! Less time spending on server entertaining, more time spending on scripting?
Basicly, they could be puerly concentrated on event hosting.. They wouldnt have /reports dealing commands, but they might have /warning and /kicking commands. they would also have "Car Spawning" command, which normal admins dont..

To be in this team, you dont go from moderator, to admin, to entertainer. You would go stright to entertainer. Im not sure about levels of entertainers either.. and different level could have different money ammounts funded by the managers?

For Example:
Basic Entertainer  [$7,500]
General Entertainer [$15,000]
Big Entertainer [$30,000]

Whenever money is down to 0, must report to managers where it went, and ask for refill.
It would make managers awere whos doing a great job, and whos on holiday.
If more cash would be required for some nicer idea to be inplemented, it would have to go to managers table to discuss.

So maybe ignore the Admins addon, make a new seperate addon?

I think for this we are calling server Owners? Even thou they would be under supervision by Managers.







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Reply #1 on: January 13, 2012, 02:14:53 pm
. . . as I have witnesed quite a few admins/moderators who join just to stay afk.. (no names) This would show Admins activity better than anything. . . .

Instead of criticizing admins think about what they have to do. Maybe you could get he's doing something to administrate the server indeed . . .

For the rest of the idea (and the second one) I just say events are not meant to give out money and admins aren't meant mainly as entertainers either.

Players can host events if they want, just organise . .

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Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 02:25:20 pm
Instead of criticizing admins think about what they have to do. Maybe you could get he's doing something to administrate the server indeed . . .

For the rest of the idea (and the second one) I just say events are not meant to give out money and admins aren't meant mainly as entertainers either.

Players can host events if they want, just organise . .
Batta, our game times dont match, you dont see what I see :)

And as for your 2nd comment.. i dont know about that.. :) I never said for admins to quit their admin dutys and be entertainers..
sometimes you have few too many admins online.. 1 could throw an event out.. while moderators take care of the rest.. :)



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Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 03:48:59 pm
You can always make events yourself, too. You don't need prizes to have fun with events. :razz:


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Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 05:03:17 pm
You don't need prizes to have fun with events. :razz:
Most players only care about $$$ :(
If there is no prize involved noone ever shows up to an event :(
I tried multiple times not a single fuck was given about them...

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Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 06:24:42 pm
Most players only care about $$$ :(
If there is no prize involved noone ever shows up to an event :(
I tried multiple times not a single f**k was given about them...

Yeah.. and if something like this would be made, then there would be only more events, like10 per day.. and more money without any rp. Bad. :|



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Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 07:13:12 pm
Events doesn't happen much, that it's spirit, and it should keep it.
With your idea applied we would have an event every day, and maybe two events per day, if not more.

Let's keep events spirit as it used to be. :)


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Reply #7 on: January 13, 2012, 07:35:21 pm
Events doesn't happen much, that it's spirit, and it should keep it.
With your idea applied we would have an event every day, and maybe two events per day, if not more.

Let's keep events spirit as it used to be. :)

Are you sure?? Couse how I see it.. is yes, we have 3 events per 1 week.. who gets to seem them events? 30 precent of whole days players..
Yes i was imagining about 2-3 events a day.. 1 in morning, 1 in middle busy day, and 1 at night.. so that everybody would see it.. not only thouse who come at "right time"..



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Reply #8 on: January 13, 2012, 07:49:29 pm
Are you sure?? Couse how I see it.. is yes, we have 3 events per 1 week.. who gets to seem them events? 30 precent of whole days players..
Yes i was imagining about 2-3 events a day.. 1 in morning, 1 in middle busy day, and 1 at night.. so that everybody would see it.. not only thouse who come at "right time"..

There's no specified times for events, they're random, just like paydays.


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Reply #9 on: January 13, 2012, 09:05:59 pm
It is quite a well thought out idea, although the administration team has it under control as to the point we shouldn't really be needing extra scripts for certain people to be hosting events.
Yes it sounds like a good idea but the truth is, it is not needed within the server.
As this is a role-play server, the main focus is role-play, not really an event kind of server.

About the moderators/admins being AFK, I can assure you most of the time they are busy with administration work, be that checking something on the forums or something online,
and for the other part perhaps they have to deal with something at their home for a few minutes.
As long as there is other administration members around I see no harm in one or two quickly pausing the game to deal with a matter.



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Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 10:05:05 pm
It is quite a well thought out idea, although the administration team has it under control as to the point we shouldn't really be needing extra scripts for certain people to be hosting events.
Yes it sounds like a good idea but the truth is, it is not needed within the server.
As this is a role-play server, the main focus is role-play, not really an event kind of server.

About the moderators/admins being AFK, I can assure you most of the time they are busy with administration work, be that checking something on the forums or something online,
and for the other part perhaps they have to deal with something at their home for a few minutes.
As long as there is other administration members around I see no harm in one or two quickly pausing the game to deal with a matter.

Im not too fussed about admins being afk.. I dont see a hudge deal ouf ot that..
My biggest concern, is that some players keep participating in events, while other have never even seen one.. Thats what the idea is all about.



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Reply #11 on: January 13, 2012, 10:40:57 pm
My biggest concern, is that some players keep participating in events, while other have never even seen one.. Thats what the idea is all about.

And what's bad about that? Something unfair or..? :o

Like the events are best fun on server :|




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Reply #12 on: January 13, 2012, 11:18:25 pm
And what's bad about that? Something unfair or..? :o

Like the events are best fun on server :|
Either i didnt understand you, or you didnt understand me :D

I said.. many newcomers dont even know that such great fun like events exist! many never seen one, and they leave the server.. I think events could be regular, and there for, some players might even stay online the whole day, just to participate in those events.. at the same time, its still yes/no if to give an event or not.. if there is 2 online.. you wount make an event.. if there is 5 online.. maybe $1,000 event? so it could go 3-a-day.. or not.. its all discussable.. help me on impriving this, not denying it..



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Reply #13 on: January 14, 2012, 01:43:53 am
But then, new players ( Mostly younger ones ) would only want to participate in events and earn some quick money on paydays.. shouldn't we explain them that they could roleplay something for instance? :|



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Reply #14 on: January 14, 2012, 12:57:38 pm
If events are rare occasions in server then they are valuated much more by players. Events are to spawn more money in server (Cause we all know that money makes the world go round, fortunately or unfortunately ). So having events once a week shouldnt be a problem imo. I think most of you knows what is infaltion and that is caused by printing too much money. Well I m afraid that if those "entertainers" start hosting events every day, then the server money would soon enough have no value whatsoever (Maybe its a good thing, but would probably just bring a raise in prices ). I think that spawning money should be trusted to as few people as possible (Managers, Developers), cause this would prevent careless money spawning. Event can be hosted freely without spawning any extra money. There are several ways to do it, such as creating a fund like you were talking about before and make an event entrance fee. Winner would get all the money raised from entrance fees. Its like a lottery. (Scamming is not allowed). Or you can make events and the prize would be "fun". Another idea is to just give the prize money from ur own pocket or gather all the "rich ppl" and unite your wallets and split event expenses. I dont think script is needed to do this job. And I dont like the idea of random money spawning.



 


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