Norway gets rid of it's official religion

[Aksel]

You mean left direction.


Akse, its normal that you by living in a multi-cultural society, accept this and you  even waited for this as you said, since you're a non-religious person, but the problem is if most Norwegian origin people back off from it like you, and most of the islamic immigrants don't back off from their religion (like they rearly do, which is something for respect), in 15-20 years you're gonna be living in a country that's mostly Islamistic.

I really wanna know how will you feel, if one day you realise that your own country, that's on the far north of Europe(away from the original muslim countries), become majority muslim country?

I'm not critisising or anything, Im just honestly wondering on your toughts about it.

I mean right as in correct.

A multicultural society is a correct society. What is wrong with islam spreading to northern countries? Christians has done it since the beginning, hasn't they? I would of course prefer if Norway stayed the way it is today, with a couple of changes in the education and school politics, and some more, but I doubt Norway will become an Islamic state with Sharialaws instead of our constitution, for example. We Norwegians are proud of our history, but the thing with our people is that we are not as outgoing as the rest of Europe. We like to keep our feelings inside, as you could see very clear after 22. July. The only people that reacted back with violence was a person with background from Iran.

[JDC]

Separation of church and state is fine. But shar'ia in Norway?

Please, no. :devroll:

[Aksel]

Separation of church and state is fine. But shar'ia in Norway?

Please, no. :devroll:

Indeed. I wouldn't like it either

[AnnaR]

Separation of church and state is fine. But shar'ia in Norway?

Please, no. :devroll:

Why are everyone scared of islamination of Norway?
I mean, swedish and poland's are the majority of the immigrations.. :redface:

[SafetyMoose]

Speaking matter-of-factly, USA Citizens and Canadians are basically British, French, Native American, Spanish, Russian, and people from many other countries, who have a "new nationality" after a few centuries of mixed breeding. It's basically all Immigrant Country, except for the Native Americans; the only race who we can actually call pure-blooded Americans.

But that's beside the point. Norway, on the other hand, is historically Norweigian and European.

As much as I am not racist, I don't exactly support the blurring between all races as it removes a historically vital uniqueness from Humanity. Imagine if we bred all dogs so there'd be only one breed, it won't be as good.

Well its up to the country isn't it? If a country wants to prevent this "Blurring" between races then that is their right to do as long as they dont start infringing on human rights. My example of Canada being this mixture of races is solely to show that countries can successfully operate by promoting a mixture of the world. Hell, people immigrate here because they want that type of life, well others stay in their home countries becuase they want to preserve their history.

In regards to separating the Church from State, it does not remove a part of history from the country, it just opens up the opportunity for those of other faiths to become involved with the way their country is run without a fear of bias.

[Cofiliano]

A multicultural society is a correct society.

The only people that reacted back with violence was a person with background from Iran.

but the problem is if most Norwegian origin people back off from it like you, and most of the islamic immigrants don't back off from theirs

My point exactly. Lets face it, it would be surprising if someone of Norwegian origin did it, but from all people in Norway, a guy who's origins are from Iran did it.

 Its not something that's connected with religion only, but the mentality and way of thinking of different nations. Its not in your mentality to react back with violence, but that's not the case with  the immigrants of different religion, tradition, mentality (Not everyone of course, but generally speaking), except if they're well integrated into the society, but no matter how much they are intergrated, they'll still wont back off from their religion, cause its more then a religion for their poeple, its a way of life, way of thinking.

You on the other hand will give it up, cause of which they'll have the advantage from the start, specially if they turn out to be a religion majority in Norway, and by the looks of it, they'll on the good path.

Even Angela Merker was saying  that multicultural societies is a fail project, because the immigrants stick to their religion/tradition/close society and doesn't want bigger integration into the society then need it, while the Germans give everything open, strongly believing that they'll manage to adjust them and that price is huge.

 That's what that retard Breivik discovered and those were his views, that no one can decline to be false, just like no one can in any way, support or not condemned his actions of butchering those young people, cause of his twisted retarded mind.

For you(your people), multiculturalism is above all, even your religion as we see it, for them their religion and tradition is is above everything and there's no question about it.

[Aksel]

My point exactly. Lets face it, it would be surprising if someone of Norwegian origin did it, but from all people in Norway, a guy who's origins are from Iran did it.

Pretty much, yeah. I, for one, tends to say what I feel. Probably why I got elected to be the leader of the Norwegian Socialistic Youth in Telemark (state).

Even Angela Merker was saying  that multicultural societies is a fail project, because the immigrants stick to their religion/tradition/close society and doesn't want bigger integration into the society then need it, while the Germans give everything open, strongly believing that they'll manage to adjust them and that price is huge.

Don't forget that integration goes both ways. "Strongly believing that they'll manage to adjust them" - sounds extremely wrong. More like a nazi regime, to be honest. What the youngest generation in Norway has understood is that integration goes both ways. We have to respect the foreigners and their thoughts, as they have to respect ours. The integration system in Norway is horrible, and that's on my agenda at the moment. On a local plan, of course.

Yet, I fully understand that my opinion on this is far from yours, Cofi, as I am not religious, and you're an orthodox christian.

[SafetyMoose]

My point exactly. Lets face it, it would be surprising if someone of Norwegian origin did it, but from all people in Norway, a guy who's origins are from Iran did it.

 Its not something that's connected with religion only, but the mentality and way of thinking of different nations. Its not in your mentality to react back with violence, but that's not the case with  the immigrants of different religion, tradition, mentality (Not everyone of course, but generally speaking), except if they're well integrated into the society, but no matter how much they are intergrated, they'll still wont back off from their religion, cause its more then a religion for their poeple, its a way of life, way of thinking.

You on the other hand will give it up, cause of which they'll have the advantage from the start, specially if they turn out to be a religion majority in Norway, and by the looks of it, they'll on the good path.

Even Angela Merker was saying  that multicultural societies is a fail project, because the immigrants stick to their religion/tradition/close society and doesn't want bigger integration into the society then need it, while the Germans give everything open, strongly believing that they'll manage to adjust them and that price is huge.

 That's what that retard Breivik discovered and those were his views, that no one can decline to be false, just like no one can in any way, support or not condemned his actions of butchering those young people, cause of his twisted retarded mind.

For you(your people), multiculturalism is above all, even your religion as we see it, for them their religion and tradition is is above everything and there's no question about it.

Cofi brings up a good point. Many immigrants move to a country for "a better life" or "new opportunities" but they fail to understand that they no longer live in the society they used to live in. They expect us to conform to them instead of them conforming to the society THEY are joining. And they get away with it because we let them, we give them the opportunity to know we will back off first. Without an immigration system that forces immigrants to understand that religion or cultural dominance is not accepted, all you get is what cofi explained.

[nikos]

But in the end my grandfather's mill got biger,older and much more interesting history then then the whole Canadian history.

[SafetyMoose]

But in the end my grandfather's mill got biger,older and much more interesting history then then the whole Canadian history.

>implying you know anything about Canadian History.

[nikos]

Implying

[Pandalink]

Implying

Implying what?

[SafetyMoose]

Implying what?

[Aksel]

Implying

Please find something else to do

[nikos]

For example Elementary school,high school North America/Canada.
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