Teenage Atheist Union

[aleksandar_gojkovic]

That's because babies are empty. They are empty because they are to be culturally, socially and psychologically influenced by their surroundings. If their surrounding is to be a pack of wolves, treating the child as one of their own, it is influenced to behave like a wolf. If a baby is born in an Islamic home, with all sides of the family believing in the same deity, that child will grow up islamic.
Now if a child was to be born in a dark room, with no influence at all. Light, feeding, contact, etc. It would be an atheist. Not because it chooses to reject the surrounding around him, but simply doesn't believe in a deity. So yes, every child that is born, is retarded.

So, simplified, a child is like a clay. Sorrounding shapes it. Simple enough huh?

[JDC]

But are you an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist?

I don't believe in the concept of a deity as religions put it (i.e: A great wise father figure in the sky with angels standing around his throne), but I believe in some sort of mechanism that brought the universe to order as it is today, as many things happen to be conveniently arranged.

What does that make me?

[Daco]

Funny how most of the people in this topic pray for God when they're in serious crisis or about to face death etc.. :roll:

[Squeak]

religion has outlived its usefulness

[Gandalf]

What does not believing in a god and denying our current modern civilisation have in common? Sure all life around us is baed on Christianity, The Islam, Hebrewism but that doesn't mean you HAVE to pick one of them. Atheists just pick none.
Post Merge: June 10, 2012, 07:54:37 amThat's because babies are empty. They are empty because they are to be culturally, socially and psychologically influenced by their surroundings. If their surrounding is to be a pack of wolves, treating the child as one of their own, it is influenced to behave like a wolf. If a baby is born in an Islamic home, with all sides of the family believing in the same deity, that child will grow up islamic.
Now if a child was to be born in a dark room, with no influence at all. Light, feeding, contact, etc. It would be an atheist. Not because it chooses to reject the surrounding around him, but simply doesn't believe in a deity. So yes, every child that is born, is retarded.

If that is true then how did religion come in to existence ? After all the first people had no examples and no influence of religion. By your idea religion should never have existed.

[Mario_Rinna]

Now if a child was to be born in a dark room, with no influence at all.

How?

...  no influence at all. Light, feeding, contact, etc. It would be an atheist.

It would be dead.  :skull:

[Jubin]

I don't believe in the concept of a deity as religions put it (i.e: A great wise father figure in the sky with angels standing around his throne), but I believe in some sort of mechanism that brought the universe to order as it is today, as many things happen to be conveniently arranged.

What does that make me?

Still a Deist.
Post Merge: June 10, 2012, 12:18:26 pm

It would be dead.  :skull:

And would burn in hell for not believing in God!

[Mario_Rinna]

And would burn in hell for not believing in God!

Actually, according to some religions, kids go straight to heaven after death.  :rules:

[Gandalf]

Actually, according to some religions, kids go straight to heaven after death.  :rules:

Are those religions famous for child abuse ? 

[Radagast]

Limbo, limbo, limbo; how low can you go?

[Gandalf]

Limbo, limbo, limbo; how low can you go?

Below is hell above is heaven....

[Radagast]

Below is hell above is heaven....

Depending on your view point, and how much smoke and mirrors are employed... :roll:

[Dutchy]

If that is true then how did religion come in to existence ? After all the first people had no examples and no influence of religion. By your idea religion should never have existed.

If let's say a cavemen looked at the sun, noticed it brought them warmth and light. He might make assumptions and theories on why the sun is there, created from his own mind. That is something only humans can do, have influence on their surroundings.

[Exterminator]

If let's say a cavemen looked at the sun, noticed it brought them warmth and light. He might make assumptions and theories on why the sun is there, created from his own mind. That is something only humans can do, have influence on their surroundings.

Psychologists estimate that the theory of God(and other theories such as that of ghosts, end of the world e.t.c) emerge from a part of your brain, and the action is called arguement from ignorance(No its not a offensive name, idiots really need to change it though). It states that when no logical explaination is available, you go for the closest one to it. In other words everyone alive is retarded.

[Oliver]

That's because babies are empty. They are empty because they are to be culturally, socially and psychologically influenced by their surroundings. If their surrounding is to be a pack of wolves, treating the child as one of their own, it is influenced to behave like a wolf. If a baby is born in an Islamic home, with all sides of the family believing in the same deity, that child will grow up islamic.
Now if a child was to be born in a dark room, with no influence at all. Light, feeding, contact, etc. It would be an atheist. Not because it chooses to reject the surrounding around him, but simply doesn't believe in a deity. So yes, every child that is born, is retarded.

If a child was to be born in a dark room with no contact whatsoever, it would die of hunger, so such a scenario is impossible. Saying that "oh but he gets fed every 6 hours" is simply a sadistic imagination and you should go see a psychiatrist.

Every child is most influenced by their parents when growing up, and most influenced by the media/their friends when adolescent, but in the end chooses to make their own decision, be it conforming with their nation's religious beliefs or choosing to believe something entirely different. You can't say that all children born in the same conditions are exactly the same, there have always been people who reject their cultural norms and instead choose to pursue something different, like whiteys converting to Islam or moving to Arabic countries.

Besides, if the child in the dark room was capable of thought, it would certainly not be an atheist as it would believe that the person feeding them was some sort of a divine being keeping it alive.

A great wise father figure in the sky with angels standing around his throne

Who the f*ck actually genuinely believes it except for some niche zealot groups?