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Reply #30 on: June 24, 2012, 12:14:57 pm
Ehhh you new world countries and your rights...

In Serbia for doing stupid shit, kids get theyre asses kicked (litterealy) by parents. They take a belt, and strike you with it for some time.
That is called "Physical punishment" AND IT WORKS LIKE A CHARM! Heck, it may hurted, but i am happy that i was raised that way. That stopped me from doing stupid shit, and i avoided lots of troubles that way.

I seriously dont get just "grounding" the kid. That has NO effect. With kids, diplomacy = WORST POLICY! Force = BEST POLICY! Rights smights yadda yadda yadda! I am 17, but, if my kid acted that way, id ground him + BEAT DA SHIT outta him, so he would NEVER AGAIN do such a thing (whell atleast untill he becomes 18 :/).

Anyway, i hope point taken. With kids ony policy is force, period.

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Reply #32 on: June 24, 2012, 03:49:07 pm
That is called "Physical punishment" AND IT WORKS LIKE A CHARM! Heck, it may hurted, but i am happy that i was raised that way. That stopped me from doing stupid shit, and i avoided lots of troubles that way.
Ah, so that's why you're a violent sociopath.

I am 17, but, if my kid acted that way, id ground him + BEAT DA SHIT outta him, so he would NEVER AGAIN do such a thing (whell atleast untill he becomes 18 :/).
f**k you. You'd better not ever have any goddamn children.. and if you do, I hope they call the police on you and they throw you in prison for the rest of your life.
Frankly, you disgust me.

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Reply #33 on: June 24, 2012, 04:34:39 pm
Ehhh you new world countries and your rights...

In Serbia for doing stupid shit, kids get theyre asses kicked (litterealy) by parents. They take a belt, and strike you with it for some time.
That is called "Physical punishment" AND IT WORKS LIKE A CHARM! Heck, it may hurted, but i am happy that i was raised that way. That stopped me from doing stupid shit, and i avoided lots of troubles that way.

I seriously dont get just "grounding" the kid. That has NO effect. With kids, diplomacy = WORST POLICY! Force = BEST POLICY! Rights smights yadda yadda yadda! I am 17, but, if my kid acted that way, id ground him + BEAT DA SHIT outta him, so he would NEVER AGAIN do such a thing (whell atleast untill he becomes 18 :/).

Anyway, i hope point taken. With kids ony policy is force, period.

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Reply #34 on: June 24, 2012, 07:46:22 pm
I seriously dont get just "grounding" the kid. That has NO effect. With kids, diplomacy = WORST POLICY! Force = BEST POLICY! Rights smights yadda yadda yadda! I am 17, but, if my kid acted that way, id ground him + BEAT DA SHIT outta him, so he would NEVER AGAIN do such a thing (whell atleast untill he becomes 18 :/).

You're actually sick in the head. Please, for the sake of everyone, go and get some professional help - because you sure as hell need it.

Oh, you'll find that if (and I sincerely hope you do not) you have children and beat them up as a form of discipline, when they're older and you try to lay your hands on them again, they'll snap back and give you a taste of your own medicine.

Heck, it may hurted, but i am happy that i was raised that way.

Ahh, now it all makes sense.



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Reply #35 on: June 24, 2012, 08:13:28 pm
Back then, parents whipped kids around with a belt if they misbehave and it was fine.

Now? It's called child abuse and thrown to jail..


Now, about the Bus monitor.. she said she does not wish to press charges (since this incident could be classified as harassment, or under a different term & laws in that specific town), it's smart to stay out of it and just take some time off with the $700,000 raised in her name for probably retirement, unless she loves her job & continue what she is doing despite several petty brats pushing her around..

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Reply #36 on: June 25, 2012, 12:20:11 am
To be honest, I don't agree with most of the opinions here..

Before you jump to conclusions, try to draw a portrait of the old lady and what her character is like. She's a 68-year-old widow that has eight grandchildren. The reason she decided not to press charges is that doing so would result in the kids getting into trouble, so I think it's safe to assume that she's the "nice old lady" type of person.

My guess is that it started off with small things like the kids saying no when asked to do something, etc. When they noticed that she is too weak to scold them and didn't want to get them in trouble, they took advantage of it and this is the result.

Schools are meant to prepare kids for life, both by educating and disciplining them. In fact, the definition of a bus monitor is someone that "monitors conduct of students on school bus to maintain discipline and safety", so in this video, how did she discipline them? She didn't, mainly because she's too nice...

In an ideal world, being too nice wouldn't be a problem, but what if every person that works in a middle school was like this? If you went up to a teacher and told him/her that he or she is a big fat balla whose children deserve to die, surely you'd expect some kind of punishment??? Schools, as well as children's parents, are supposed to teach them what's allowed and what isn't.

Don't get me wrong, I don't blame the lady, but I think it's the school district's fault for putting her in that position. She's simply too nice and needs a different job, perhaps a kindergarten or an elementary school. Oh well, at least her grandchildren will have enough money for college now...


Is this in Greece or America? I'm confused now.
Anyway those kids shouldn't be charged or anything, just kicked the shit out of until near death.
What stage of evolution are you at?


I was in the capital about a week ago. Since I'm from Dalmatia(far south of Croatia) and that's Zagorje(north), my accent was really standing out and people were laughing at me as soon as I walked into a store.
Peers were teasing me in the tramway, calling me names like "stupid undeveloped Dalmatian" and a redneck. I just smiled. I could sure use some cash compensation, doesn't even need to be half a million of dollars.
Should've tried speaking english with them ;)

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Reply #37 on: June 25, 2012, 12:25:07 am
What stage of evolution are you at?
Read further into the topic before making such offensive posts.



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Reply #38 on: June 25, 2012, 12:34:40 am
Read further into the topic before making such offensive posts.
I did, your turn. If someone thinks that the only way to discipline kids is to beat them up until they're almost dead, it's safe to assume that their brain has not evolved to a human level.

Scary to think that kids are being brought up like this in certain parts of the world.
The US borrowed names from lots of places. In fact, look at a random place in the US and you'll see tons of familiar names

For example: https://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=38.117272,-84.611206&spn=1.778343,2.469177&t=m&z=9
Frankfort, Versailles, Lancaster, Lebanon, Bagdad :D

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Reply #39 on: June 25, 2012, 12:36:46 am
I did, your turn.
Clearly you didn't.



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Reply #40 on: June 25, 2012, 02:54:11 am
Clearly you didn't.

 :rofl: Your making yourself look like an even bigger moron bud.



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Reply #41 on: June 25, 2012, 04:40:59 am
We're living in a modern age where anything can go viral. This video is the perfect example.
People lash out easily, they are sensitive and can response fiercely due to their position: behind a PC monitor. No wonder videos like this "alarm us about the ever increasing problem of verbal abuse".

As EliteTerm said, whipping and such were easily applied conventional methods of dealing with problematic children. It was seen as a natural solution in the past.
If this happened in the past, the bus monitor would move along, choose another spot or simply spank one of the children as an example. As we see now, the bus monitor will probably take a vacation, seek professional help, talk about her failed life, discover deep thoughts, get diagnosed because she "feels depressed" and alternatively get prescribed heavy medications. The kids will be forced(along side their parents) to visit their local psychologist so he can determine their "problem", probably BPD or ODD. Years of therapies will pass, they will be labeled as social problems and everyone wins. They are tagged by the clinics, the government and the people online. After all, it's not their fault they are "retards" who take pills, right?

I strongly oppose physical abuse but I am astonished by today's methods of treating the very basic problems.


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Reply #42 on: June 25, 2012, 09:05:23 am
Ehhh you new world countries and your rights...

In Serbia for doing stupid shit, kids get theyre asses kicked (litterealy) by parents. They take a belt, and strike you with it for some time.
That is called "Physical punishment" AND IT WORKS LIKE A CHARM! Heck, it may hurted, but i am happy that i was raised that way. That stopped me from doing stupid shit, and i avoided lots of troubles that way.

I seriously dont get just "grounding" the kid. That has NO effect. With kids, diplomacy = WORST POLICY! Force = BEST POLICY! Rights smights yadda yadda yadda! I am 17, but, if my kid acted that way, id ground him + BEAT DA SHIT outta him, so he would NEVER AGAIN do such a thing (whell atleast untill he becomes 18 :/).

Anyway, i hope point taken. With kids ony policy is force, period.

I am sure people are not being raised like that where you live, maybe it's only you? If you want to exercise physical punishment start slapping your own face, it might alarm you from stop saying all this nonsense.

The main reason of adults having psychological problems when they're grown up is because of what their childhood was like. So unless you want your kid to be a loser when he grows up I'd not recommend physical punishment. I'd also look forward to see how your elderly age would be. Would you also teach your kids how to physical exercise on their children? No wonder your society has a bad rumor, justified or not.

I strongly oppose physical abuse but I am astonished by today's methods of treating the very basic problems

I now see what Old Stalin ment with  - No human, no problem. I am not justifying his methods but this quote can be very common in this modern era and use as example for many cases seen nowadays.

The whole topic goes to see what pricks the modern education system and society can raise. Today's punishing methods are if you have a problem, throw money at it, solve it. Let's hope we reach 2020 before killing each other off. I am not a conspiracy man, but seeing how "retarded" the new generation is coming out, I doubt 1 of 100 kids will have a decent life, and a decent job when he becomes an adult.



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Reply #43 on: June 25, 2012, 01:31:22 pm
You're actually sick in the head. Please, for the sake of everyone, go and get some professional help - because you sure as hell need it.

Oh, you'll find that if (and I sincerely hope you do not) you have children and beat them up as a form of discipline, when they're older and you try to lay your hands on them again, they'll snap back and give you a taste of your own medicine.

Ahh, now it all makes sense.

First i am too lazy to quote all:

YOU PEOPLE MAD?! 20-30 Years ago it was something that almoast EVERY parent did. Now it is child abuse? Now people who do it are psychoes? All who say that the ones who do it are "PSYCHOS", and that they should rot in jail for rest of theyre lives are simply idiots.
With kid first thing is diplomacy to get him in order. If (WHEN) it fails, BELT comes to first plan.

You can think all you can, you can say all you want, but, that is ONLY proper way to discipline KIDS OF TODAY! You seen em? Shure, i was a big idiot when i was 12-13, but thanks to my parents i am all good now. No grounding stopped me from doing crap. BELT stopped me. YOU ALL THINK that it is too crule, and abuse, but, when it ALL COMES TOGEATHER, and you look back to your past, and see that the thing that hurt you the most helped you the most in becoming disciplined, and whell behaved, you think that your parents did the right choice.

I stay with my bealiving diplomacy=WORS POLICY, and belt=BEST POLICY. Buzz around with your silly little posts of me being a psycho, an idiot or moron, I DONT GIVE A SHIT. Applying force HURT, but it made me think twice before i do something. It helped me.

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WTF dude? seriously? Practice violence on kids? UMAD? First time kid gets beat, he calms down. Second time, when he does something bad, he gets beat with belt, he calms even more. THIRD TIME HE WONT EVEN TRY to do something bad. 2 times of 1 minute of pain can make kid behave good. Kid does not do anything bad anyomre, he doesnt get beat up. No "Beating up every day" carp, just when he is acting bad. Thats all.

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Reply #44 on: June 25, 2012, 01:35:56 pm
:rofl: Your making yourself look like an even bigger moron bud.
If you don't understand what I meant to say, you're* the moron here.



 


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