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on: July 13, 2012, 08:43:31 am
I always wanted to know..where does scripters learn how to script? I was thinking about learning myself..Thanx :)



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Reply #1 on: July 13, 2012, 11:46:34 am
For SA:MP you can check the SA:MP wiki for all scripting commands.
Then download some public scripts from the SA:MP forum and try to understand what every single line does.
After that you can attempt to write your own.
When compiling a script, you will see at which lines there are errors or warnings.
The idea is that a script should have 0 errors and 0 warnings to be good.
It might work with warnings, but as a warning can have unwanted effects its best to remove them.


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Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 11:54:49 am
Thanx:)...Im going to start practising..Heard that its tough though lol :help:



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Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 12:09:07 pm
At first I didn't understand anything about the codes etc. Then I checked Youtube videos, the wiki scripting functions and started practising myself. It's a lot more easy when you practice and fix any errors when compiling. Also you can ask questions on the SA-MP forum if you are confused about anything.



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Reply #4 on: July 13, 2012, 01:21:07 pm
At first I didn't understand anything about the codes etc. Then I checked Youtube videos, the wiki scripting functions and started practising myself. It's a lot more easy when you practice and fix any errors when compiling. Also you can ask questions on the SA-MP forum if you are confused about anything.

Yeah at first it looks very confusing lol but im going to try youtube tutorials and wiki

Btw when im good enough how do i apply as a scripter?



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Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 02:04:55 pm
I'm sure that if the community was in need o scripters they would let us know.
I doubt a need for more scripters will come to existance though since the current scripters are active.



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Reply #6 on: July 13, 2012, 02:06:51 pm
Damn..there goes my dreams lol  :mad:



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Reply #7 on: July 13, 2012, 03:16:21 pm
Damn..there goes my dreams lol  :mad:

Dont let it crush your dreams. If you are serious about learning to script, there is alot of stuff you need to learn and it dosen't take a couple of days to reach perfection.

I'm a fairly good SA:MP scripter myself, and it has taken me 2 years to reach where i'm now. I'm currently scripting with ZCMD, sscanf and mysql involved and it has taken alot of training to learn the mysql part. I'm not at the same level as Conroy and Gimli, but i have done some scripts which even impressed them during my learning period, and i have even released a script on SA:MP forum. I have done several scripts which i haven't finished yet, including a RP gamemode which currently is on around 8k lines.

Give yourself time to learn, dont quit because you get frustrated on a problem (belive me, i have been close on doing it myself, been trying for a week to fix a bug which turned out that i wrote in wrong coordinates..) and you will grow more and more experienced in scripting. :)


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Reply #8 on: July 13, 2012, 03:24:50 pm
If you want to be a part of the script team, send a forum PM to Gimli, I'm sure he could use the extra help.. But yeah I tried to learn a bit of SA:MP scripting but I gave up, mainly because of the lack of interest.. IMO, it's the scripting language that's the hard part, once you understand it, it's easy sailing.


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Reply #9 on: July 13, 2012, 03:39:53 pm
To become a scripter for Argonath requires more than just learning PAWNO  or even being good at it.
What we need is not that you are able to make things shown on SA:MP forums, but that you are able to make what is thought to be impossible there.
You will have to know about the impact of a script to the FPS of the server, how heavy it becomes when 200 players use it at the same time, and most of all how to prevent it from becoming a free advantage for 'smart' users. Within the limits of SA:MP you have to find new and better ways of ding things.
And during all of this you will be restricted by owners who feel things might be too inaccurate, followed by players pushing their ideas, shitted on for every small error or restart and never get the credit you feel you deserve for all the long nights you sat removing that little bug instead of doing your study or job.

Sure from the outside of the mirror it looks like you will be a God. From the inside you wil feel more its more like reversing the letters (doG).
Are you up to it? Then start on the long road.

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Reply #10 on: July 13, 2012, 03:57:55 pm
How does one start on this long road and get noticed for his interest?



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Reply #11 on: July 13, 2012, 04:15:59 pm
alright, time to get rid of the 12 warnings I got in my script :D


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Reply #12 on: July 13, 2012, 05:22:40 pm
Dont let it crush your dreams. If you are serious about learning to script, there is alot of stuff you need to learn and it dosen't take a couple of days to reach perfection.

I'm a fairly good SA:MP scripter myself, and it has taken me 2 years to reach where i'm now. I'm currently scripting with ZCMD, sscanf and mysql involved and it has taken alot of training to learn the mysql part. I'm not at the same level as Conroy and Gimli, but i have done some scripts which even impressed them during my learning period, and i have even released a script on SA:MP forum. I have done several scripts which i haven't finished yet, including a RP gamemode which currently is on around 8k lines.

Give yourself time to learn, dont quit because you get frustrated on a problem (belive me, i have been close on doing it myself, been trying for a week to fix a bug which turned out that i wrote in wrong coordinates..) and you will grow more and more experienced in scripting. :)

I guess we all got to start somewhere :)
I will start with the basics and search the net if i get stuck or something..I just hope in 2 years time Argonath will be much bigger and will not close down or anything cause I only play on the Argonath server :lol:

If you want to be a part of the script team, send a forum PM to Gimli, I'm sure he could use the extra help.. But yeah I tried to learn a bit of SA:MP scripting but I gave up, mainly because of the lack of interest.. IMO, it's the scripting language that's the hard part, once you understand it, it's easy sailing.

Thanx..When I'm good at it I will give him a pm :)

To become a scripter for Argonath requires more than just learning PAWNO  or even being good at it.
What we need is not that you are able to make things shown on SA:MP forums, but that you are able to make what is thought to be impossible there.
You will have to know about the impact of a script to the FPS of the server, how heavy it becomes when 200 players use it at the same time, and most of all how to prevent it from becoming a free advantage for 'smart' users. Within the limits of SA:MP you have to find new and better ways of ding things.
And during all of this you will be restricted by owners who feel things might be too inaccurate, followed by players pushing their ideas, shitted on for every small error or restart and never get the credit you feel you deserve for all the long nights you sat removing that little bug instead of doing your study or job.

Sure from the outside of the mirror it looks like you will be a God. From the inside you wil feel more its more like reversing the letters (doG).
Are you up to it? Then start on the long road.

Thanx for the info..And here i thought knowing the basics are good enough l0l :hit: But I guess it will take me very long to get to where the current scripters are..I'm only 16 though so I only have school so I guess I have alot of time on my hands :D



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Reply #13 on: July 13, 2012, 05:32:26 pm

Thanx for the info..And here i thought knowing the basics are good enough l0l :hit: But I guess it will take me very long to get to where the current scripters are..I'm only 16 though so I only have school so I guess I have alot of time on my hands :D
It is often hard work to make things look simple. :D

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Reply #14 on: July 13, 2012, 05:35:06 pm
It is often hard work to make things look simple. :D

Lol..Very hard work :rofl:



 


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