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Reply #120 on: July 23, 2012, 05:20:13 am
Why did this occur during the UN's small arms treaty conference?
Although it makes me curious, I don't have sufficient information to back this claim.




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Reply #121 on: July 23, 2012, 05:57:08 am
Why did this occur during the UN's small arms treaty conference?
Although it makes me curious, I don't have sufficient information to back this claim.
I'm thinking that one may have just been a coincidence. After they finally released an image of the suspect's hair dyed red, I really wouldn't be surprised if he was just a crazed fanatic who believed he was the Joker himself.



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Reply #122 on: July 23, 2012, 10:24:57 am
*Civil war. If he hated immigrants so much he'd rather start shooting every one of them and end up blowing one of their temples. Killing countrymen who were there to have fun and who most have their future wide open at the age of 15 is cowardness. Yet the rest actions you mentioned have the 'justification' of being in a war actually (not that it matters to me), not living in a state of peace.
He was also mentally in a state of war, in which he wished to remove that part of the population that according to him would be responsible for treason of the Norwegian values.
The bottom line is that anyone who attacks unarmed people should be dealt with the same, regardless of their background or circumstances at which they made the attack.

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Reply #123 on: July 23, 2012, 06:14:08 pm
Just watched his court hearing....

There is truly something not right... other than the bullet proof vest he is wearing, but he appeared to be mentally absent. There is simply no emotion, and yes his hair is actually dyed red.

In jail, he is in confined space, as he is acting "irracticaly", including spitting at guards, eyes rolling back in his hear.

I would not doubt that he is found mentally incompetent to stand trial, in which he would be place in a criminally insane mental hospital.



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Reply #124 on: July 23, 2012, 06:18:39 pm
Or dead.



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Reply #125 on: July 23, 2012, 06:26:54 pm
Or dead.

It would be very hard for someone to get to him. Even in jail he has a bullet-proof vest plus constant security. In addition he is on suicide watch.



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Reply #126 on: July 23, 2012, 06:39:05 pm
Why would the majority in his prison, which sometimes are more foreigners than Americans..which include Murderers, rapists and large time thieves kill him?



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Reply #127 on: July 23, 2012, 07:01:30 pm
Why would the majority in his prison, which sometimes are more foreigners than Americans..which include Murderers, rapists and large time thieves kill him?

what do you mean?



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Reply #128 on: July 23, 2012, 07:09:57 pm
what do you mean?

I'll refrain. Prisoners will try to "get to him". What is exactly the motivation, if most of them are killers, rapists, thefts etc. Unless they've lost a family member why'd they try to kill him instead of making his life harder there..



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Reply #129 on: July 23, 2012, 09:16:38 pm
I'll refrain. Prisoners will try to "get to him". What is exactly the motivation, if most of them are killers, rapists, thefts etc. Unless they've lost a family member why'd they try to kill him instead of making his life harder there..

At least in Brazil, it's known criminals who murder kids or elderly people, or rape em have a pretty hard time.

Robbers and killers also had mothers, and some of them still have some morals ^^ Surely there's a shit ton of people in there who doesn't care, but it only takes one guy to kill that son of a bitch.



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Reply #130 on: July 23, 2012, 09:26:11 pm
I'll refrain. Prisoners will try to "get to him". What is exactly the motivation, if most of them are killers, rapists, thefts etc. Unless they've lost a family member why'd they try to kill him instead of making his life harder there..

They don't take child killers lightly.

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Reply #131 on: July 23, 2012, 10:01:01 pm
They don't take child killers lightly.

Ah I see what you mean, Wolfe explained it pretty good aswell


but it only takes one guy to kill that son of a bad girl.



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Reply #132 on: July 24, 2012, 03:54:22 am
Wow....

New first person accounts suggest the AR-15 weapon jammed mid-shooting forcing the suspect to dispose of the firearm....

That is truly shocking... Ar-15 with 100 round drum gives a 50-60 RPM or rounds per minute; meaning the death+injured toll could have easily been doubled, or worse. The entire shooting as is self presently, only lasted roughly 3 minutes and police arrival was not affective to his reason for leaving the theatre.

An officer stated, who spotted him. He appeared to be "in a trance" shortly after. Could he have actually suffered a serve mental illness.

The suspect (not gonna mention his name) is 24 years old, the mental illness schizophrenia is an illness that develops in most cases in a persons mid-twenties. Given the description of inmates released (who saw said suspect) of how he acted, these "traits" are hard to minmic. Also, I do now feel he is not "faking it" as I don't care how much anyone tries, you can not simply shoot 70 people; killing 12 including a 6 year old little girl and "fake hide" any emotions.

For those who haven't seen, here is the full list of victims. Some of which actually gave their lives to save others during the shooting:



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Reply #133 on: July 24, 2012, 03:31:02 pm
The suspect (not gonna mention his name) is 24 years old, the mental illness schizophrenia is an illness that develops in most cases in a persons mid-twenties. Given the description of inmates released (who saw said suspect) of how he acted, these "traits" are hard to minmic. Also, I do now feel he is not "faking it" as I don't care how much anyone tries, you can not simply shoot 70 people; killing 12 including a 6 year old little girl and "fake hide" any emotions.

I am disgusted by all of this, there is no reason for this to have taken place besides insanity.


Taken from Batman cinema shooting: James Holmes 'told police he was The Joker'
"Raised California, by his parents Arlene and Robert, he moved from San Diego to Colorado after graduating from The University of California, Riverside, in 2010 with a degree in neuroscience.
In June 2011 he enrolled in a PhD course in neurosciences at the University of Colorado, Denver. But last month he began the process of withdrawing from the course, the university confirmed.
Shortly before he dropped out, Holmes had taken a class on psychiatric disorders."

The part that stands out to me is the last part which I have made bold.
I don't know but I have a feeling he may use the information learnt from that "class" as an excuse for "mental illness" or something along those lines as the reason for the shooting.

Interesting... what makes it even more interesting is that he had studied things which are let's say about those "illnesses".



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Reply #134 on: July 24, 2012, 03:35:28 pm
Some may take offence to that, in fact I do not appreciate things like this being said.
Are you denying that an incredibly large amount of people is dying in Africa every day and that nobody seems to care?

Also regarding Breivik (can't browse posts and quote now); He is healthy, he is not crazy or inhumane.
I am sorry for the people who died but his cause is not at all inhumane.



 


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