NYPD shoots to death knife wielding man near Times Square

[Dolfagr]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-cops-shoot-knife-wielding-man-heart-crowded-times-square-article-1.1134432

NYPD Police Shoots Kill a Mentally Challenged Man Near Times Square Downtown NY!

[Marcell]

just like arpd LOL
thats how USA rolls....about 30 cops and a few backup cars... in poland  it would be just 2 policemen using tazers or can of tear gas

[SugarD]

just like arpd LOL
thats how USA rolls....about 30 cops and a few backup cars... in poland  it would be just 2 policemen using tazers or can of tear gas

That's actually not how American Police Officers do things. The only reason why so many cops were in this situation was because it is a heavily crowded area with a lot of innocent people that can't be moved away from the scene...especially as the suspect moved repeatedly. If he attempted to risk anyone's lives or pose imminent danger to anyone, then the Officers were justified in shooting him. From the looks of it, one Officer even had his gun put away and appeared to be trying to talk to the man to calm him down.

Unfortunately things don't always end happily for all. It is a sad way to close off the day for one person, but sometimes the lesser of two evils is the only solution...which is not a happy thing those Officers get to live with now that shot him.

[Huntsman]

just like arpd LOL
thats how USA rolls....about 30 cops and a few backup cars... in poland  it would be just 2 policemen using tazers or can of tear gas

Exactly. Lithuanian cops were known to approach an armed suspect with a tazer lol. And still got him arrested

[SugarD]

Exactly. Lithuanian cops were known to approach an armed suspect with a tazer lol. And still got him arrested

Not all American Police Departments use tazers.

[Kirgiz]

Not all American Police Departments use tazers.

Not all countries use tazer. AFAIK, In Estonia, it's forbidden in all circumstances.

[SafetyMoose]

Lets look at this situation. For one, NYPD has a ton of officers, in fact they are known for having at least 2 on each block in major areas, also, there is a police station at Times Square which also factors in to why you have a ton of cops following the guy. Second, any police officer is going to prefer to have as much assistance as possible, especially in a crowded area filled with tourists. At the end of the video you saw how many people rushed towards the cops and the guy who was shot. I would like to see 2 cops handle that many people and try to deal with a dying person in the middle of a busy road.

Situation was handled properly in my opinion. We can't see much from the video though.

[[WS]Jacob]

We cannot see what happens when the van rolls up as the camera is at an angle but if the man made a lunge towards anyone they have the justification to shoot him. I would of thought at least surround the guy he has nowhere to go. With the amount of cops there that could have been done easily, but factor in the large gathering of civilians it's hard to control. I would have thought just a simple shot to the leg would be enough to make the guy drop the gun and not hundreds of shots. Nowadays NYPD doesn't take any sh*t after 9/11.

NYPD may I refer you to this, true police work.

http://youtu.be/dFaPooJBDSg

[Mashgash]

Set up barricades, shut down the scene and negoitiate. Why does every situation ends with pew pew these days?!

[SafetyMoose]

We cannot see what happens when the van rolls up as the camera is at an angle but if the man made a lunge towards anyone they have the justification to shoot him. I would of thought at least surround the guy he has nowhere to go. With the amount of cops there that could have been done easily, but factor in the large gathering of civilians it's hard to control. I would have thought just a simple shot to the leg would be enough to make the guy drop the gun and not hundreds of shots. Nowadays NYPD doesn't take any sh*t after 9/11.

NYPD may I refer you to this, true police work.

http://youtu.be/dFaPooJBDSg

That has to be the most unsafe and irresponsible act of police work I have ever seen. Putting yourself and others around you in danger by confronting a man with a weapon of that size with nothing but a baton might seem brave in your eyes but all that scene tells me is that European Police are not properly equipped to safely deal with people who are threatening their lives. Good job to the officers involved, all cops are brothers no matter where in the world you are and I appreciate their hard work and dedication, but your Government obviously has no respect for officer Safety.

Set up barricades, shut down the scene and negoitiate. Why does every situation ends with pew pew these days?!

Oh yes, because its sooo easy to quickly transport enough barricades through one of the busiest cities in the world, set them up and get a negotiator to the scene and still expect the criminal to just stand there and let you do it. Shooting the guy was the safest means to ending any situation like that. In a perfect world we could do what you suggest, but lets face it, no one in their right mind is going to spend money on such resources for some crazy guy with a knife.

[FlameMan]

just like arpd LOL
thats how USA rolls....about 30 cops and a few backup cars... in poland  it would be just 2 policemen using tazers or can of tear gas

Cause in Poland they've got like 90 points of procedure to be fulfilled to shoot. And in each case, they got an investigation let against them, just to prove they were right.

[Orel]

why did they shoot him omg abusers i will report them on arpd forums!

[[WS]Jacob]

Putting yourself and others around you in danger by confronting a man with a weapon of that size with nothing but a baton might seem brave in your eyes but all that scene tells me is that European Police are not properly equipped to safely deal with people who are threatening their lives. Good job to the officers involved, all cops are brothers no matter where in the world you are and I appreciate their hard work and dedication, but your Government obviously has no respect for officer Safety.

I do think officer safety is an issue here. When confronted with a knife or a gun, what can our police counter that with? A baton or CS spray. The normal procedure in this situation is to wait until the Armed Response Units (ARV's) arrive, but here it is a close residential block and with this tactic of keeping the man moving, the officers are keeping him distracted so he won't cause harm to the public. I believe most forces now have tazer trained officers but in this situation I didn't see any use of them, which it was needed.

The reason I called them brave is because they are putting themselves in danger and no-one was injured in this situation (not including wheelie bins anyway).

[Dolfagr]

Taze someone with a knife in his hand, he is most likely to stab himself. Other than that there are rubber bullets and canines to deal with these situations but shooting him TWELVE times. Seriously, once in the arm or the torso isnt f**king enough?

[SugarD]

Set up barricades, shut down the scene and negoitiate. Why does every situation ends with pew pew these days?!

New York City is the largest, most populated city in the United States, and Times Square is a giant tourist and local attraction, which also contains many, many businesses. To block off half a million busy, upset, and "in-a-hurry" people in a matter of minutes without sufficient barriers or preparation for this incident is impossible. Even if they had a year to plan this out, it would still be extremely difficult...especially given that the man was constantly changing location in a packed, high-traffic area.