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Reply #45 on: October 15, 2007, 06:18:36 am
im not a relegious, im a believer

now lemme explain this shit for you

If u think god doesnt exist.....think , use ur damn brain  :poke:

Who made the sky? did it just exist?
Who made the earth flat when its really round?
Who gave us air to breathe?
who created the world, the universe? dont bullshit me and say it existed by itself because thats impossible

God isnt making the world perfect because he's testing us, to see if we will still believe in him even though he didnt make everything perfect?

God made it against the relegion to be a faggot because when ur a faggot, ull get many diseases such as syphillis and u will die, he didnt just make it against the relegion without a reason, everything god made is for a reason


Mmmm...good point

Who made the viruses?
Who made the cancer?
Who made the natural disasters that kill thousands of innocents?
Who let the human kind destroy the planet?
Who let the humans torture and kill other humans?
Who let them kill people in the name of god?

He creates us and then he let us destroy ourselfs? What kind of person would be god? Horrible, a terrible dictator who force us to obey him but he still punish us (few months ago in italy a Woman is died in a church cause the crucifix has felt down from the wall on her head).

God created 1 man and 1 woman and then they generated the human kind?

Adam, Eve and 2 sons Cain and Abel...and Cain kills Abel. So how the human kind has occupied the planet? Incest? Even if Adam and eve kept making babies...we are descentants of a mass incest?

And the dinosaurs...they aren't even mentioned in the bible, where do they come from? And why did they disappeared then?

With this logic, the whole Chatolic religion falls.

If he created the earth, why there are billions of stars and galaxies around us?

In origin the religion was a way to explain the unknow, the sky, the night, the fire, the thunders...cause our descendants were not equipped with the technology is today available such observatories and microscopes. But a day, someone had the brilliant idea to use this thing to make profits and force the masses to obey them...and after 2000 years has come the time to look at the facts and admit: the religion has been abused in all ways possible. And there aren't gods behind the clouds who are watching us. We have reached the surface of Mars, and all we have spotted is empty space and red sand.

If god created the universe, he is the worst manager i have ever seen...

I am a free man, and nobody can take my freedom...neither an invisible god who seems in holyday since he let his son get killed by the Romans, neither a god who let childrens die of hunger and leukemia, neither a god who let priests abuse of kids, neither a god who let people kill and torture in his name.

He is no more the god of the human kind, he abandoned us...if he even existed, and i don't see any reason to beleive in him,



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Reply #46 on: October 15, 2007, 09:58:38 am
Why are you (idiots) quoting the bible when Pistol man said himself he's not a religious man but a believer.

The bible = christians book of god or whatever, there is allot other books to believe in. Just because you believe god doesn't mean you're a god damn christian, Pistol, if you believe the bible, I suggest you read it. Last time I checked, god made homos, bisexuals, gamblers and random sinners drown or something... Am I not correct? Now I'm not a christian so I haven't read the bible, and to be honest, I would rather read the god damn koran before reading the bible.

Now... Lets talk about hinduism instead? lol.

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Reply #47 on: October 15, 2007, 11:16:08 am
Why are you (idiots) quoting the bible when Pistol man said himself he's not a religious man but a believer.

The bible = Christians book of god or whatever, there is allot other books to believe in. Just because you believe god doesn't mean you're a god damn christian, Pistol, if you believe the bible, I suggest you read it. Last time I checked, god made homos, bisexuals, gamblers and random sinners drown or something... Am I not correct? Now I'm not a Christian so I haven't read the bible, and to be honest, I would rather read the god damn koran before reading the bible.

Now... Lets talk about Hinduism instead? lol.

I really do think that you should read the bible,

I am a devotional Christian and i believe that people go to hell because they have a choice to believe in God Or not. Hitler [EG] would have gone to heaven of he prayed for forgiveness and was a christian and went to heaven , But, who knows, maybe he did make it to heaven.

And Im Not Saying Asking For Forgivness/Becoming a christian at the last min will get you to heaven.

God let people have a choice in what they believe. He didn't want himself to be the puppeteer and us be the puppets.

In Gods Eyes He believes that Lying Is a Bad As Murder, But as long if you pray for God to forgive you, you will go to heaven, and only because Jesus Died for your Sins.

The following is not ment to affend any atheist, it is a point of view

I once did a Research Project on Steven Hawking, A Famous Atheist That Came up with the theory of a "Big Bang"

He was onced interviewed and was asked Quote: "If The Big Bang Is Real, What Made The Big Bang "Bang"" End Quote
and he answered Quote: "It Is Impossible to even think of a creation with out a God[More was there but i didnt include] " End Quote

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I myself as a Christian do not believe that Christianity is a total Brain-Wash idea, As i said before, God Lets you have a choice to what you believe in.
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Reply #48 on: October 15, 2007, 01:29:56 pm
How do you know God is a guy?...

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Reply #49 on: October 15, 2007, 02:32:30 pm
Abe, the question is...

How do you know god exists?

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Reply #50 on: October 15, 2007, 02:36:31 pm
He didn't say anything about knowing god exists...
Religion = Belief, not facts.

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Reply #51 on: October 15, 2007, 02:50:15 pm
yup, but id rather not praise somthing, that i cannot see.

id like to praise somthing, that i have seen.
and i know of which is real...

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Reply #52 on: October 15, 2007, 03:10:10 pm
Mike, don't worry, I like your point, you are just sharing your opinion, and I think that's very important. ;)

But my point is the same as Hayden's and Luca's;

If there is an almighty god, then:

Why does death exist?
Why do people suffer in the hands of those powerfull? (I mean, those with a lot of cash, gangsters, mafias and so on)
Why does the ambition, (I mean, the bad ambition) corruption, hate exist?
Why do we suffer?
Why does the "bad guys" always triumph over the weak?
Why do disease, virus cancer, virus exist?
Why does god leave people die, torture, destroy things "that he created"?

Why? How can a person kill in the name of god???

Then, on my opinion, cuz I do have an asshole, if there is a god, he is kind enough to leave people suffering.

Now, have you ever stopped to think about such thing?


I'd rather believe in some kind of backstabber with sometimes a corrupt heart, but has the power to heal you, even if it is for money, such as a medic, than pray my whole life for nothing. For me, I live only once. And I cannot waste my opportunity.

I know, for me, god was a protection. I had hard time to believe he didn't exist, but once I got out of that shell, I feel a stronger person.

KNP!

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:ps: No offense for the believers. I just want to register my point.


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Reply #53 on: October 15, 2007, 03:31:21 pm

If there is an almighty god, then:

Why does death exist?
Why do people suffer in the hands of those powerfull? (I mean, those with a lot of cash, gangsters, mafias and so on)
Why does the ambition, (I mean, the bad ambition) corruption, hate exist?
Why do we suffer?
Why does the "bad guys" always triumph over the weak?
Why do disease, virus cancer, virus exist?
Why does god leave people die, torture, destroy things "that he created"?

OK Orthodox bible say it is all His greater plan, fate of every living being is written in His book, and when your number shows up, u are called to Him, also when the day of reckoning comes only those pure in hearth will be called upon to be saved by Him, that all those questions are just His great plans
"God works in mysterious ways, that cant be understood by common man"
Didn't read Catholic bible but I'm sure it says someting similar.

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Reply #54 on: October 15, 2007, 03:35:01 pm
OK Orthodox bible say it is all His greater plan, fate of every living being is written in His book, and when your number shows up, u are called to Him, also when the day of reckoning comes only those pure in hearth will be called upon to be saved by Him, that all those questions are just His great plans
"God works in mysterious ways, that cant be understood by common man"
Didn't read Catholic bible but I'm sure it says someting similar.

huh? if god created the human being, why didn't he create it with good heart and fate?


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Reply #55 on: October 15, 2007, 03:40:39 pm
huh? if god created the human being, why didn't he create it with good heart and fate?

He did, Adam and Eve were pure in hearth , but remember the snake and the apple?
Read the Bible if u don't believe in Him, maybe u will start , otherwise it is very good psychology book, a "uplifting" book.

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Reply #56 on: October 15, 2007, 03:54:06 pm
wow, powerfull apple. I do know about the apple. Then, lets backtrack a little. Why did he create the snake with the apple?


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Reply #57 on: October 15, 2007, 04:11:50 pm
I don't know...
My closest guess is a test for Adam and Eve?

Or to quote myself...

"God works in mysterious ways, that cant be understood by common man"

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Reply #58 on: October 15, 2007, 04:14:51 pm
if is a test, why he made such test that corrupted the rest of the mankind for thousands  years? He should have corrected it.


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Reply #59 on: October 15, 2007, 04:20:29 pm
This is what bible answered to me...
i repeat read quote....
And of course we can go for another 200 pages of what if questions...
"God works in mysterious ways, that cant be understood by common man"

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