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Another Mass Shooting - New Year's Eve, Old Town Sacramento, CA

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Reply #30 on: January 01, 2013, 11:08:41 pm
No, I'm sorry because let me tell you: there's a direct causal link between violent culture and increased aggression and violence in adults and teenagers, so it flies in the face of all the culture and all the politics. Bellicist culture infact may get adolescents and teens more aggressive. You're saying that those mass shootings are ''people being stupid'', but that, that ain't the whole deal.
More than half of those mass-shootings were sparked by mentally-ill people who have nearly no understanding of the country's political structure, so that argument is completely null.



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Reply #31 on: January 01, 2013, 11:19:29 pm
More than half of those mass-shootings were sparked by mentally-ill people who have nearly no understanding of the country's political structure, so that argument is completely null.

First you agreed with the idea that violent culture is the problem, now you are saying they were mentally ill? And yes you have a degree of politics (or ideology, whatever you want to call it) involved, as in a country where liberalism is probably the thing people are most proud of, you end up getting yourself a problem above an already existing problem...

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Reply #32 on: January 01, 2013, 11:20:28 pm
First you agreed with the idea that violent culture is the problem, now you are saying they were mentally ill? And yes you have a degree of politics (or ideology, whatever you want to call it) involved, as in a country where liberalism is probably the thing people are most proud of, you end up getting yourself a problem above an already existing problem...
Culture =/= politics. The two may have influence on one another, but they do not directly control each other.



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Reply #33 on: January 01, 2013, 11:45:40 pm
Just putting this up here. Science on gun violence.

Science and Gun Violence

And we do not try to be real life, as why would you ever play real life if you have one ? We play the GTA universe, and our players should try to live in the GTA world, not the real one.



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Reply #34 on: January 02, 2013, 09:44:45 am
More than half of those mass-shootings were sparked by mentally-ill people who have nearly no understanding of the country's political structure, so that argument is completely null.

How did they get the weapons in first place then?

I don't think being mentally-ill means hanging around with automatic rifles.

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Reply #35 on: January 02, 2013, 10:06:31 am
How did they get the weapons in first place then?

I don't think being mentally-ill means hanging around with automatic rifles.
Illegally. Mentally-ill people aren't supposed to have access to them.



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Reply #36 on: January 02, 2013, 10:13:46 am
Illegally. Mentally-ill people aren't supposed to have access to them.

You still can't deny the system let him get them easily.

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Reply #37 on: January 02, 2013, 10:30:22 am
You still can't deny the system let him get them easily.
"The system" didn't give anyone illegal weapons. They illegally obtained them.



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Reply #38 on: January 02, 2013, 10:38:50 am
"The system" didn't give anyone illegal weapons. They illegally obtained them.

They spawned them. Right.

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Reply #39 on: January 02, 2013, 10:39:49 am
They spawned them. Right.
You've never heard of a black market, have you?



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Reply #41 on: January 02, 2013, 10:53:33 am
You've never heard of a black market, have you?

Ever heard about legal weapons being sold illegally?

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Reply #42 on: January 02, 2013, 10:54:49 am
It's too late to ban guns. They are already swarmed all over the country. Airsoft weapons can be easily converted to lethal ones by an expert so that won't stop it at all. What needs to be done is to educate people about weapons which will take over 50 years. Though you can't totally blame the American people as the past governments wars against Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and elsewhere have altered the mind of the people, thus the current generation aswell.
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Reply #43 on: January 02, 2013, 10:57:54 am
Ever heard about legal weapons being sold illegally?
Not in California, considering they thrive on restricting them. Either way, that still makes them illegal.



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Reply #44 on: January 02, 2013, 11:01:08 am
Not in California, considering they thrive on restricting them. Either way, that still makes them illegal.

They were legal before though..

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