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Memorial monument removed in Albanian populated town in Southern Serbia.

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But the larger majority voted independence, which sounds like a fair vote IMO.
What..?
The amount that voted for independence was not even close to the majority
Aka not even 50 percent of the countries voted for independence.



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What..?Aka not even 50 percent of the countries voted for independence.
Wrong. There are 193 countries in the UN, out of the 193, 98 recognize Kosovo. Do the math.



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Wrong. There are 193 countries in the UN, out of the 193, 98 recognize Kosovo. Do the math.
Yes, while first there were 88 or something supporting independence.
What I meant to say is despite Russian protests to stop the voting, it continued like Russia has no say. Which is what I meant with the world we live in comment.



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While I understand that you are all in a heated debate, I have already warned you all that provocative comments won't be allowed. Flaming is included in that. Keep your posts civil and don't attack one another if you wish to continue this discussion.



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lawl guys you dont even have idea what's going on down here.

I live in south Serbia near Kosovo. Well in my city there is not a single Albanian guy, they all got back. And 15km away from me is city Bujanovac wich is 48% populated by Albanians. Around Bujanovac there is ultra mega giga special forces of Serbia like SAJ, JSO... Because of that many peoples started moving away or going back to Albania. Albanians keep claiming Serbian city as their only because they are protected by U.S.A atm tbh i would like to see them without their support ...

Currently they are saying that there is 2mil Albanians on Kosovo, bullshit, there are like 800k wich is normal, like they are imigrants. And imagine if my whole city populates part of e.g Hungary and claim that as Serbia or make it as new country.

And also I see you are saying how more than 50% countries voted for Kosovo independence, well think about it. Will Montenegro where 70% peoples say that they are Serbians vote for independence, would Macedonia do that?!? No, U.S.A forced em to do that like all other countries.

And that about monumentum did you read post name? "in Albanian populated town in Southern Serbia lawl . Let's build monumentum for Japanese kamikazes who suicided in Perl Harbor, yeah why not, they were heroes of their country?




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lawl guys you dont even have idea what's going on down here.
The irony...

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I live in south Serbia near Kosovo. Well in my city there is not a single Albanian guy, they all got back. And 15km away from me is city Bujanovac wich is 48% populated by Albanians. Around Bujanovac there is ultra mega giga special forces of Serbia like SAJ, JSO... Because of that many peoples started moving away or going back to Albania. Albanians keep claiming Serbian city as their only because they are protected by U.S.A atm tbh i would like to see them without their support ...
What town you live in? Nis, Vranje? There was Albanians there too at one time, though they were all ethnically cleansed. Bujanovac is 55-60 percent Albanians, while the rest are Serbs and Gypsies. Exact amount isn't known since there wasn't a census made in a while. But, Albanians are larger in numbers there. Lol, you don't know anything about the southern cities populated by Albanians, after WWII when more aggression was put on Albanians by the Serbs, riots gathered and men with just melee weapons tried to fight off armed police men. This was in the late 40's and early 50's. So, no, we aren't claiming these cities as ours just yesterday.

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Currently they are saying that there is 2mil Albanians on Kosovo, bullshit, there are like 800k wich is normal, like they are imigrants. And imagine if my whole city populates part of e.g Hungary and claim that as Serbia or make it as new country.
There isn't two million but just over 1.7 million. Too bad Albanians were there long ago, you just going there and populating it is a whole different thing.

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And also I see you are saying how more than 50% countries voted for Kosovo independence, well think about it. Will Montenegro where 70% peoples say that they are Serbians vote for independence, would Macedonia do that?!? No, U.S.A forced em to do that like all other countries.
FYROM and Montenegro have large Albanian minority as well as Albanian political parties. Not to mention the other minorities also wanted to recognize Kosovo. In FYROM, you already know the situation.

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And that about monumentum did you read post name? "in Albanian populated town in Southern Serbia lawl . Let's build monumentum for Japanese kamikazes who suicided in Perl Harbor, yeah why not, they were heroes of their country?
Yes, same town where you gave rights to those Albanians and promised equal rights after signing the treaty in 2001. Looks like those promises aren't being fulfilled. That's also not thing the same as this situation...



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It's a funny thing if you remember Carla del Ponte, she was sent to prove that Serbs committed crimes, while she found out the situation is reversed.
Just remember the so called "yellow house".

Maybe you've heard of 10 Serbs who have been arrested on the orthodox Christmas. Well I don't really know what did they do with them, but one of them has been released sterilized.

@Antonio - Albanians on KosMet request the same rights that Serbs have there. Well, if you want to be treated like animals you're free to do it.


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What town you live in? Nis, Vranje? There was Albanians there too at one time, though they were all ethnically cleansed. Bujanovac is 55-60 percent Albanians, while the rest are Serbs and Gypsies. Exact amount isn't known since there wasn't a census made in a while. But, Albanians are larger in numbers there. Lol, you don't know anything about the southern cities populated by Albanians, after WWII when more aggression was put on Albanians by the Serbs, riots gathered and men with just melee weapons tried to fight off armed police men. This was in the late 40's and early 50's. So, no, we aren't claiming these cities as ours just yesterday.
I live in Vranje, there wasn't Albanians btw, and if there was maximum- 10-50

I know about other cities that are populated and whatever you say they are on Serbian territory and they are immigrants ATM.

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There isn't two million but just over 1.7 million. Too bad Albanians were there long ago, you just going there and populating it is a whole different thing.
Just was waiting from you to post smth like this,
Explain me why are they avoiding to be listed. My friend asked one and he told him that other Albanians said that they don't want to have names I.E without Q because there is no Q in Serbian, for real is that a reason!? They just want to keep old number of peoples.

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FYROM and Montenegro have large Albanian minority as well as Albanian political parties. Not to mention the other minorities also wanted to recognize Kosovo. In FYROM, you already know the situation.
Lol, i got family in Montenegro and ask peoples on street where are they from, 70% of them will you Serbia there was poll if you dont belive me,
And about Macedonia, whole north Macedonia is like part of Serbia, so please...


No one will like any Albanian in Serbia. Once America stops spectating, there wont be a single Albanian on Kosovo/Serbia, I am sure in that.



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This is Argonath RPG, official language here is English, no posts in foreign language.

And whatever you said you should write it on English.



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It's a funny thing if you remember Carla del Ponte, she was sent to prove that Serbs committed crimes, while she found out the situation is reversed.
Just remember the so called "yellow house".
Never has been proved. I would like to know how she knew this kind of information? Was she present while this happened? Just a propaganda. If her evidence could be proven and considering her former position in the Hague, she would've been able to do something in court.

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Maybe you've heard of 10 Serbs who have been arrested on the orthodox Christmas. Well I don't really know what did they do with them, but one of them has been released sterilized.
They disrespected police. A investigation is to be launched, plus I don't see how exactly you can be beaten in a court house with other witnesses there, including the judge. No judiciary bodies accepted any of these claims. That's another subject anyways, we can talk about that in a separate topic when it's been fully looked into.

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@Antonio - Albanians on KosMet request the same rights that Serbs have there. Well, if you want to be treated like animals you're free to do it.
Your statement doesn't make sense. Why would we be asking for more rights in Kosovo?

I live in Vranje, there wasn't Albanians btw, and if there was maximum- 10-50
That's because this was years before you and I were born. Albanians in the Toplica area were all ethnic cleansed. 20-25 percent of Albanians in Kosovo can retrace their roots to this area.

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I know about other cities that are populated and whatever you say they are on Serbian territory and they are immigrants ATM.
Just was waiting from you to post smth like this,
Explain me why are they avoiding to be listed. My friend asked one and he told him that other Albanians said that they don't want to have names I.E without Q because there is no Q in Serbian, for real is that a reason!? They just want to keep old number of peoples.
You don't know the meaning of "immigrant". Those people have generations and generations that live there and you call them "immigrants"? LoL.
Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? Names listed in what, censuses? That's called boycotting, and the Albanians in the south did that for the Serbian census. I hope you were talking about that, because I don't really understand what you're talking about.

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Lol, i got family in Montenegro and ask peoples on street where are they from, 70% of them will you Serbia there was poll if you dont belive me,
And about Macedonia, whole north Macedonia is like part of Serbia, so please...
And I also got cousins in Montenegro, lol. Yes, that's why through a voting they separated from you, and that's why their ethnic group of "Montenegrin" holds 45-50 percent of the population. North FYROM can't be "like part of Serbia". Either it is, or it isn't. You're posting complete non-sense...

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No one will like any Albanian in Serbia. Once America stops spectating, there wont be a single Albanian on Kosovo/Serbia, I am sure in that.
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Aleanca Kuq e Zi dhe disa student kosovar dhe shqiptar kan vendosur qe do ta rindertojn monumentin nga e para :D

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Yes, while first there were 88 or something supporting independence.
What I meant to say is despite Russian protests to stop the voting, it continued like Russia has no say. Which is what I meant with the world we live in comment.
When was it 88? I think you're trying to debate about something you really have no clue about. Russia has a say for their own country and probably for their allies, but they can't force the whole world to not recognize Kosovo.



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Our government needed to react immediately and take down this monument, but they waited for too long and albanians ,again, started their  media war.
Did you Really think that we just gonna sit back and look, and not take it as a provocation?
There is more then 20 monuments in southern Serbia that were build in honor of other killed terrorist but not one was build in front of the city hall, be happy that only this one was removed.
Almost every day you can hear about our cemetery's being vandalized and they never catch those pity souls  that do it, so I don't know why are you bitching about.A couple of nights ago monument raised in honor of Serbian kids that were killed in NATO bombing was damaged, someone actually shoot at it.Look at yourself  before you start pointing fingers.

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