Enforcement on the traffic

[Salvatore_Zambino]

Not to sound like an asshole or anything, but I doubt people will start using the right ramp. Unless something drastic happens, like somebody pays the people who do go up the right ramp $1k :3

[TinMan]

You're free to continue protecting the Mulholland as a police officer. Maybe get some roleplay out of it, what's happened here is people getting punished without any real interaction. You post a case, it gets approved, they lose a license.

Well, unless I see a document signed by the upper government of the States of Argonath, San Andreas, that states an agency who's primary role is or should be maintaining the roads are to also maintain road laws and enforce them, I disagree with the work they do. The proper course of action should instead be arranging a traffic division of the ARPD. Civilians enforcing the law is just plain wrong. They're civilians. I mean, what's next, driving schools uniting in order to patrol the streets, revoking licenses of anyone who drives in the wrong lane? ATC calling in Hydras on anyone who doesn't report in landing and taking off? CMB revoking passports if people break rules?

Someone is just mad because they were caught using the wrong ramp at Mulholland Intersection breaking the law! It's simple. Don't use the wrong ramp unless you have probable cause to breech it if ON Law Enforcement duty or at all. If you have probable cause you better provide some evidence why you breached it. In addition, don't be driving around like a baboon acting like its your first time behind the wheel. You were caught utilizing the wrong ramp, and therefore all I see is that you are trying to fight this through courts to get yourself out of trouble. Enough said.

Chief_Hardy || VOSA Case #006

And there is proof.
As being the protector of Mulholland Intersection, I don't see how it possible that anybody is NOT allowed the right to record any public place is Argonath. There is no law limiting the right of recording. The only law that would be against recording is privacy, but since the Mulholland Intersection is public place that would be thrown out of the window. I believe that anybody can sit anywhere and use a cam recorder. For those citizens who are fighting against the Vehicle and Operative Services Agency and Argonath Road Administration are those citizens who do not have any integrity so their employers/bosses better take another look because you may have someone who can't follow rules while you are gone. What I am saying is that, it's simple do things what is right because there is someone always watching you.

For example. back in July 24, 2010, I made a post about someone is all ways watching you.

http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=11958.msg91968#msg91968

After the day I quit ArgonathRPG, I enjoyed to write and study more things. For the last few days, I been outside and I enjoy the tall grass and trees. I can go outside relax by fishing, hunting, and ride my bike. I find it better to be alone without any distractions, but you are never alone. There is someone all ways watching you. It can be the person upstairs, or another person, or maybe an animal.  We are never alone in this world. Now in San Andreas Multiplayer anything that we do it will haunt you in the future. It can be in a good way or maybe in a bad way.

Back then when I was a Freecop trying to apply for ARPD. I had this crazy idea that I thought it would be better for me to get an Officer rank, soon. I had a friend named Tommy White, we use to be good friends but I never really liked his attitude. One day over Teamspeak, we were just talking and I had this good idea. I never checked who else was inside the channel because I didn’t know too many people anyway. I asked him do you want to get officer rank fast. He said that he wanted to and told me to say what it is. So I told him that we should grow weed on duty to get officer rank, it will help us to get promoted as well especially if we have at least 200 grams of weed. He said that Okay but I hope we don’t get busted. We started out at the LSPD, and managed to find a helicopter that could take us to each weed field. Tommy and I started at Bone County then to Flint then to Red county. Not knowing that someone was watching us and over hearing our conversation. At our last stop before we were busted, Tommy had planted the weed and we saw a civilian darting our way. It was an Under Cover cop. We took off as fast as we can then F.B.I came out of nowhere, so we had to stop or else it was too suspicious that we did plant weed. In the end, we were sentence for 120 days in jail and my application wasn’t rejected it was on hold for 1 month. Now today, I still have people private messaging me about that situation which happened about 5 months ago. Also, I’ve also been harassed about it. Anyway, I hope that no one grows weed on duty.

There was another time I was at Flint County heading to the weed field lights and sirens. Jimmy bowling private messaged me that it was Code 4/14. I was just wondering how he knew that I was responding to the scene. I didn’t report it on radio either. All he did was flown over me with a helicopter and I didn’t even know it.

One day, my partner and I were patrolling Los Santos. My partner got a phone call from a person. That person asked my partner if he wanted to buy some weed. My partner said no and we stayed on long enough and got location. Then my partner had to go, so it was just me in the driver’s seat. When I got close to the person that called my partner there was another man in his vehicle. They were driving North Bound to Red county on 425 East which is at East Beach. I had the suspicion that he was trying to sell weed. The passenger of the car stepped out of the car so I stopped. He said that the suspect stole my car. I was wrong on the suspicion, but I had a good probable cause to go after him. I stepped up to respond with lights and sirens. The suspect was driving faster now because he knew he was in trouble for Grand Theft Auto. The pursuit only lasted about 2 minutes and the suspect surrendered. I told them that he was under arrest for Grand Theft Auto of a Stolen Vehicle, Selling Weed, and Evading. The suspect was like how you know. Well, I can figure things out easily. I didn’t even have to frisk him and he handed the weed over. The result was only for 120 days because he complied. The owner of the stolen car was mad so we said that the suspect will have to pay for damages. Then he was happy and was taken home.

My point is that there is always someone watching you whether you are neither on duty nor off duty. If you are one of those cops that are growing weed, being corrupted, or doing something inappropriate, you will more than likely be caught. You may not know that that person was watching you. It is the only matter of time, luck, and risk. Whenever I was taking a Hunter Ed course the Law Enforcement agency stated that there is all ways someone watching you even when I am not there. Just take this information here and understand it.
It doesn’t matter if you still watch your surroundings someone is all ways watching.
I hope that information isn’t to be used in the corrupt way under the SAPD/ARPD Laws. It should just be helpful under the hands of cops that if you do something stupid then you’ll probably hear it later like I did by growing weed on duty a long time ago.

Signed,
Retired Sr. Officer TinMan

*If you have any stories like this please share then and we can always discuss them.

If you read my article you find some old baggage on me that is already wiped away, however, I learned my lesson that someone is always watching so do things that is right and you won't ever have any problems. That is same for the Mulholland Intersection, if you don't want to be caught using the wrong ramp, my advise to you is just never do it at all because someone is always watching you!

[Pingster]

All I see there is me reversing, and if it'd been let continue, you'd see me coming right back down. I don't fear a court case where I'm being prosecuted of using reverse.

Anyway, it's got nothing to do with that. It's about making sure people feel safe, that they're not being spied on all the time. If you insist on 'protecting mulholland', do it on /duty and follow the correct procedure. Citizens of Argonath should not be driven to fear of people spying on them.

[TinMan]

But you still broke the law. Also, in the video, you reversed half way up the ramp and thats proof.

Anyway, it's got nothing to do with that. It's about making sure people feel safe, that they're not being spied on all the time. If you insist on 'protecting mulholland', do it on /duty and follow the correct procedure. Citizens of Argonath should not be driven to fear of people spying on them.

-It's about making sure people are safe driving down the off ramp or off ramps.
-If citizens follow the law at the Mulholland Intersection they should not have to worry or fear about anything.
-"Citizens of Argonath" should also make it safe for citizens to be safe driving down the off ramp into Los Santos, San Andreas

Mr. Pingster, whats your definition of spying?

[chichibung]

I Cant see any RP in this topic, because, if you just do a court case, how will you know the person going the wrong ramp name? RP RP RP, be a cop, pull him over.

 :ps:im lazy to read the whole topic so im not sure what this is about

[TinMan]

how will you know the person going the wrong ramp name?

Good question, the answer is that its Argonath, a very lite roleplay server that doesn't support OOC and IC, so anyone has the ability to see someones name tag during a roleplay. Therefore, it makes these organizations allowed to sue people in court. However, in there roleplay there reason could be by checking the person license plates or something along the lines there.   

[Jcstodds]

  If I am in the bigger vehicle, the side of the road I am driving on is the correct side of the road to drive on.

[newguy]

I've been driving on the wrong ramp for days. What's going to stop me from doing that again?

[SugarD]

I've been driving on the wrong ramp for days. What's going to stop me from doing that again?

How about losing your license and getting a big fat fine for every time you did it?

[Brian]

v. spied (spd), spy·ing, spies (spz)
v.tr.
1. To observe secretly with hostile intent.


I dont see this being nice if you cannot even drive around your own city being captured with a camera all the time, just go on cop duty

[KhornateMonkey]

v. spied (spd), spy·ing, spies (spz)
v.tr.
1. To observe secretly with hostile intent.

ARA and VOSA vehicles are highly visible, a bright sky blue. We're aren't there to secretly hide and take people to court. We park our vehicles in clear view so that it deters people from using the wrong ramp.

I dont see this being nice if you cannot even drive around your own city being captured with a camera all the time, just go on cop duty

Maybe I'm not the one you should be worried about when "being captured with a camera all the time".

CCTV camera #1 at LSPD
CCTV camera #2 at LSPD
CCTV camera #3 at LS City hall, looking over Pershing Square
CCTV camera #4 at Idlewood, looking over GS9

[Pingster]

But you still broke the law. Also, in the video, you reversed half way up the ramp and thats proof.

I also drive a bus that's hard to turn around, so I sometimes reverse for several blocks. Just because it's a ramp doesn't affect anything as far as the law is concerned, I was reversing in my lane of travel. If that were to be confirmed as law break by the court of law, it would set up a precedent case for anyone wishing to pull over people for going into reverse.


Also, Jcs, as always, has some wise words.

[Mikal]

I dont see this being nice if you cannot even drive around your own city being captured with a camera all the time, just go on cop duty

London isnt the city for you then.

[TinMan]

I also drive a bus that's hard to turn around, so I sometimes reverse for several blocks. Just because it's a ramp doesn't affect anything as far as the law is concerned, I was reversing in my lane of travel. If that were to be confirmed as law break by the court of law, it would set up a precedent case for anyone wishing to pull over people for going into reverse.


Also, Jcs, as always, has some wise words.

You were driving a two-door sports car and the correct way to turn around wouldn't be backing up on the road to turn around. Hell, you could have hit an oncoming car! The best way if you want to turn around is drive completely down the off ramp into Los Santos. Once in Los Santos, pull into a parking lot, make a u-turn in the parking lot, and head your way back to Mulholland Intersection up the on-ramp onto the LS-LV Highway.

If the civil court makes your case valid of reversing in lane, that would mean that everyone has the legal right to reverse all the way to their designation, so come on Argonath civilians lets start driving backwards for now on because its allowed.  :rules:

[Nathan_Alexandrov]

Ok I got a question for you all, how come Mulholland Intersection is SO important? What about every other junction in San Andreas? See I've got the IRL version of you down the road from me, keeps people from going over the speed limit, ya know what happened? Car crashes on alternate routes started to increase, all you are doing is A. Annoying people B. Diverting them, if it's something I've learned over the years traffic enforcement only helps the area it's in, in San Andreas you can't cover the whole area, hence your operation is useless. Well.. Not useless, you're just teaching lawbreakers to be smart.