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Reply #60 on: February 06, 2013, 01:53:27 am
Ok I got a question for you all, how come Mulholland Intersection is SO important? What about every other junction in San Andreas? See I've got the IRL version of you down the road from me, keeps people from going over the speed limit, ya know what happened? Car crashes on alternate routes started to increase, all you are doing is A. Annoying people B. Diverting them, if it's something I've learned over the years traffic enforcement only helps the area it's in, in San Andreas you can't cover the whole area, hence your operation is useless. Well.. Not useless, you're just teaching lawbreakers to be smart.
The Mulholland Intersection is being enforced heavily now because it has become a very common issue. Although I agree that all intersections should be watched, this one has gained special attention because even emergency services are misusing it, and there have been a number of accidents and fatalities as a result.



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Reply #61 on: February 06, 2013, 02:00:44 am
It is not that is has become a very common issue, it's the only one that has been noticed, if you park up anywhere in populated LS I bet you'll see round about the same if not more traffic violations. Personally I believe that only reason this has been given specific attention is because of Tinman, originally he was the only police officer to give a shit about the intersection. Since he has become semi-famous due to his role many have tried to follow in his footsteps, unfortunately all in the same spot.



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Reply #62 on: February 06, 2013, 02:37:08 am
It is not that is has become a very common issue, it's the only one that has been noticed, if you park up anywhere in populated LS I bet you'll see round about the same if not more traffic violations. Personally I believe that only reason this has been given specific attention is because of Tinman, originally he was the only police officer to give a shit about the intersection. Since he has become semi-famous due to his role many have tried to follow in his footsteps, unfortunately all in the same spot.
Years ago when SATP existed and was able to pull over other cops, there was no traffic-related crime from either police or civilians. That changed when official and unofficial subdivisions of SA:MP SAPD were shut down, and Lieutenants were added with the ability to pull over other cops, and no one else could. Things fell apart then. The problem is that cops are setting a bad example for others, despite their intentions. They need to work on it themselves if they wish to work on it with others too.



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Reply #63 on: February 06, 2013, 03:10:50 am
If the civil court makes your case valid of reversing in lane, that would mean that everyone has the legal right to reverse all the way to their designation, so come on Argonath civilians lets start driving backwards for now on because its allowed.  :rules:
It's never been disallowed.


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Reply #64 on: February 06, 2013, 03:20:10 am
It's never been disallowed.
They should also keep in mind, though, that there is a difference between driving in reverse, and backing up. :P



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Reply #65 on: February 06, 2013, 03:32:28 am
They should also keep in mind, though, that there is a difference between driving in reverse, and backing up. :P
I know what you mean, though what we have here is an over enthusiastic dude who's only seen a 6 second long video and yelling about road laws against me, Conk made sure he edits the video to only show what he wants to be seen :P

However, I agree with what Nathan is saying, I have no trouble going 220 on any Los Santos street without anyone giving a damn, heck, going 170 and other officers passing me in an infernus, that's always fun :P


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Reply #66 on: February 06, 2013, 03:57:22 am
However, I agree with what Nathan is saying, I have no trouble going 220 on any Los Santos street without anyone giving a damn, heck, going 170 and other officers passing me in an infernus, that's always fun :P
Then I will be sure to file a report against you if you are on-duty, or pull you over for speeding if you aren't. ;)



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Reply #67 on: February 06, 2013, 04:03:11 am
Then I will be sure to file a report against you if you are on-duty, or pull you over for speeding if you aren't. ;)
Psh, you drive alone too much, who'll /speed? :P


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Reply #68 on: February 06, 2013, 04:16:12 am
Psh, you drive alone too much, who'll /speed? :P
It's not hard to see when you're going the speed limit yourself, and a car flies past you at a high rate of speed. That's how sole officers in patrol cars do it in real life too.



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Reply #69 on: February 06, 2013, 04:33:35 am
It's not hard to see when you're going the speed limit yourself, and a car flies past you at a high rate of speed. That's how sole officers in patrol cars do it in real life too.
Not RL ^_^


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Reply #70 on: February 06, 2013, 05:13:09 am
It's never been disallowed.

So you are saying that it is allowed legally to drive in reverse or backing up anywhere in San Andreas?

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Reply #71 on: February 06, 2013, 06:04:53 am
Not RL ^_^
I think you're missing the point. ;)



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Reply #72 on: February 06, 2013, 06:10:42 am
There's certainly no law or reference to reversing, as long as it does not breach other laws (driving on curb, hitting civilians and so on), it's permitted.


Sugar, my point is that as an officer you're legally required to prove someone is guilty when convicting them, and the only way regarding speeding to do that is with /speed. If you F8 your speed and me being next to you, doesn't mean I'm going your speed. If you fraps, it's not necessarily the same speed either, as FPS lag creates difference between the speed on speedo and the actual speed :P

Plus, it promotes grouping up between officers (which you should be doing anyway, chances of a lone cop taking down a murder suspect or an unco-operative pullover are considerably small) and actively doing something, /speeding people :) An F8 doesn't promote anything.


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Reply #73 on: February 06, 2013, 06:13:48 am
There's certainly no law or reference to reversing, as long as it does not breach other laws (driving on curb, hitting civilians and so on), it's permitted.

According to Argonath Consitution
Act III.I: Reckless driving understand any form of driving that could endanger other citizens. Under such circumstances, a police officer is allowed to take necessary actions.

Using the wrong ramp incorrectly like what you did [reversing in lane] could have caused a fatal accident. An on coming car would have to slam on their brakes and therefore that is endangering the lives of other citizens, correct? And If I'm incorrect tell me what gives you the full legal right to reverse up the wrong ramp?

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Reply #74 on: February 06, 2013, 07:07:24 am
Sugar, my point is that as an officer you're legally required to prove someone is guilty when convicting them, and the only way regarding speeding to do that is with /speed. If you F8 your speed and me being next to you, doesn't mean I'm going your speed. If you fraps, it's not necessarily the same speed either, as FPS lag creates difference between the speed on speedo and the actual speed :P
Wrong. That is only necessary if there is a court case. Officers witnessing civilians committing crimes are able to suspect/ticket them immediately, depending on the offense and the protocols for them. Argo does not take people to court based on every single crime. Only certain offenses can be taken to court, and they also depend on how the users wish to roleplay them out.



 


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