Boy Scouts of America considers end to gay-member ban

[Batta]

The Boys Scouts of America has said it may overturn its ban on gay members and leaders, and allow local units to choose their own policies on the issue.

The policy reversal could come once the national board meets next week.

Only last year, the Boys Scouts of America (BSA) reaffirmed its ban on gay members, after a two-year review.

In 2000, the organisation went to the US Supreme Court, saying its policy of "morally straight" conduct fell within its right to freedom of expression.

Deron Smith, a BSA spokesman, said that if the change under consideration came into effect, "the Boy Scouts would not, under any circumstances, dictate a position to units, members, or parents".

But Mr Smith said a change in their policy banning atheists was not being considered.

It would allow parents and sponsors to "choose a local unit which best meets the needs of their families", Mr Smith added.

In July, the Boy Scouts concluded that maintaining its long-standing policy against allowing gay members was "the best policy for the organisation".

But officials within the organisation said local chapters were urging the Boy Scouts to reconsider their decision.

At least two members of the organisation's national board, Jim Turley, chairman and chief executive of consulting firm Ernst and Young, and Randall Stephenson, head of the US telecoms company AT&T, have said they would support a change in policy.

The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation welcomed the move.

"The Boy Scouts of America have heard from scouts, corporations and millions of Americans that discriminating against gay scouts and scout leaders is wrong," said the organisation's president, Herndon Graddick.

"Scouting is a valuable institution, and this change will only strengthen its core principles of fairness and respect."

During the 2012 presidential election, nominees from both major parties - Barack Obama and Mitt Romney - said the Boy Scouts should include gay members and leaders.

Boy Scouts of America, founded in 1910, said that at the end of 2011 it had more than one million adult members.

[Marcel]

Equal rights for everyone, period.

[Matt Murdock]

No, just No.

Although I support gay rights and equality and what not, but not this one, children tend to have a tender mind, and whatever you put into it, they adapt it.

Heck if you tell them its ok to have sex with animals.. we might have a generation mating with animals as well.

[Batta]

children tend to have a tender mind, and whatever you put into it, they adapt it.

Right. Knowing gay people is still not a good reason to think they will manipulate your children. That's just caused by the common place of gays being pedos and monsters..

Reality is different.

Heck if you tell them its ok to have sex with animals.. we might have a generation mating with animals as well.

Kids are "tender-mind" but not stupid. 

[Matt Murdock]

Right. Knowing gay people is still not a good reason to think they will manipulate your children. That's just caused by the common place of gays being pedos and monsters..

Reality is different.



Kids are "tender-mind" but not stupid. 

A survey showed that kids nowadays are more attracted towards animal/filthy/kinky porn/adult movies.

When I was 12 I just liked lesbian videos with dem big ol' titties, not a pig pounding a woman in mud.

Also gay people are good, but not all of them are. I know gay people of both type in reality.

[Jellyfish]

Kids are "tender-mind" but not stupid. 

Children have a tendency to 'pick up' ideologies.

[[WS]Jacob]

Did even know such ban exsisted. Over here in the Scouts anyone can become a member or leader. Surely if the army has removed the 'gay ban' then why has a non-miltary organisation still got it? Boy Scouts should be for all to enjoy.

[Batta]

A survey showed that kids nowadays are more attracted towards animal/filthy/kinky porn/adult movies.

When I was 12 I just liked lesbian videos with dem big ol' titties, not a pig pounding a woman in mud.

That sucks but what does this have to do with what we're talking about? Do you think those kids are being taught to? I actually have no idea/opinion about what could lead a kid to like such stuff..

but not all of them are.

Same goes for "normal" people. What makes you think that the percentage of "bad" people in gays is bigger than the "normal" people?

Children have a tendency to 'pick up' ideologies.

Do you have one/some gay friend(s)? I guess not. It's not like one goes around talking about this subject trying to manipulate children. This is the wrong thing in your thought.

[Matt Murdock]

That sucks but what does this have to do with what we're talking about? Do you think those kids are being taught to? I actually have no idea/opinion about what could lead a kid to like such stuff..

Same goes for "normal" people. What makes you think that the percentage of "bad" people in gays is bigger than the "normal" people?

No, but most kids learn from what they see, I know I did. You think it wouldn't affect their mind to see a friend of theirs kiss another guy at an age of 12-14? Heck, I remember I learnt most of my bad traits from seeing friends.. rolling up a joint and shit.

And I'd say 50% haven't had a single gay friend who didn't try to hit on me one time or another..

[Batta]

You think it wouldn't affect their mind to see a friend of theirs kiss another guy at an age of 12-14?

Wouldn't they see it at school as well? Oh, am I late? Maybe they banned them from public schools as well!

And I'd say 50% haven't had a single gay friend who didn't try to hit on me one time or another..

Did they rape you? I don't think so.. what's different if that comes from a girl or a guy? Obviously there's a difference and something that you may or may not like, but feelings and respect for others' feelings should go over this.

[Matt Murdock]

School is a different thing, sneaking out in jungle is another.

No, but yeah, I have been forced, ofcourse which I didn't accept. and to be honest I'd behave the same way if a girl tried to do it too, since a pedo type of pervness is just too damn weird o.0

But again, do not forget we are grown ups, kids gonna be kids.

Someday when you have kids, would you allow your kids to be friends with the kids which you know are homosexual ? You might allow your daughter, but I very highly doubt you'd allow your son to be friends with a kid who is homosexual..

[[WS]Jacob]

Someday when you have kids, would you allow your kids to be friends with the kids which you know are homosexual ? You might allow your daughter, but I very highly doubt you'd allow your son to be friends with a kid who is homosexual..

So parents now have full control over who their kids make friends with and if they do not meet the approval of their parents they cannot be friends?

[Matt Murdock]

So parents now have full control over who their kids make friends with and if they do not meet the approval of their parents they cannot be friends?

They don't in your side of the world? Cause I'm quite sure here any parent would mind if their kids are friends with a drug addict, smoker, or drinker or eve teaser.

[[WS]Jacob]

They don't in your side of the world? Cause I'm quite sure here any parent would mind if their kids are friends with a drug addict, smoker, or drinker or eve teaser.

Well to basically deny a child a friendship just because of the sexuality of another kid is stupid in my mind. That's like saying you can't be friends with any ginger haired boys because I don't like them. But you can be friends with any ginger haired girls you like.

[Alsatian]

Someday when you have kids, would you allow your kids to be friends with the kids which you know are homosexual ? You might allow your daughter, but I very highly doubt you'd allow your son to be friends with a kid who is homosexual..

Of course I would. Why? Well because I'm not an asshole.