unenforced?

[Marcel]

Perfect example.

My first time being kidnapped as a cop today 

[Mashgash]

Just to add to the conversation, i consider this as forced RP:

Why? I should be able to react to the "jump". I should be able to at least try and resist the "tape". The other player shouldn't have decided the outcome of that specific piece of RP.

A great example of the typical "I must win" mentality we currently experience in Argonath.

I am just curious. Did you went along with the RP?

[Marcel]

A great example of the typical "I must win" mentality we currently experience in Argonath.

I am just curious. Did you went along with the RP?

Yes, i did, and i ended up getting shot and killed. I don't refuse RP, even though this was just some RP as a cheap excuse for DM.

[[WS]Jacob]

Yes, i did, and i ended up getting shot and killed. I don't refuse RP, even though this was just some RP as a cheap excuse for DM.

Yes sadly some people think if they kidnap or rob the outcome is to get what they want and then kill you.

[Ben.]

The thing that really gets on my nerves is that roleplaying an agent and putting a criminal in mordor when he doesn't want it, is considered forcing roleplay.

I know he can't run away without rule break, and thus considered forced rp, but it shouldn't. I mean that's what a cop does. I can't even roleplay my job.....
Ain't my problem he decided to kill 20 cops.

Quite an interesting one actually...I'd argue that if someone has surrendered to the police, they have also surrendered to the police officer ultimately deciding the outcome of the role-play. I can appreciate that if someone needs to leave the server, they don't want a long investigation, but if they just want to get back to their "family", then why did they get themselves suspected to start with?

In an ideal world, if all police officers respected these boundaries, then I wouldn't see why taking an unwilling suspect to mordor is a problem? Last time I checked, most criminals who have been arrested are unwilling to go to a high security prison!

A great example of the typical "I must win" mentality we currently experience in Argonath.

I am just curious. Did you went along with the RP?

That's an interesting one! In RP's, part of the fun is sometimes losing...! The modern mentality (not just in Argonath) is to "win"...as it makes people think they have bigger balls.
Really, the one who aims to make the most mutually enjoyable roleplay is the one who should be pleased with themselves.

[RizzE.]

My first rps was lame it was  [give me 10k withing 10 seconds or you die, and it always ended with shooting. but the DM rule is easy to circumvent

[SugarD]

My first rps was lame it was  [give me 10k withing 10 seconds or you die, and it always ended with shooting. but the DM rule is easy to circumvent

For that situation, you can report it to admins immediately and refuse to RP with them. That is clearly forced roleplay for the intention of greed and abusing new players. If they DM'ed you after the fact, then they are not only setting a bad example for new players, but they are also deserving of punishment from admins for it.

[RizzE.]

For that situation, you can report it to admins immediately and refuse to RP with them. That is clearly forced roleplay for the intention of greed and abusing new players. If they DM'ed you after the fact, then they are not only setting a bad example for new players, but they are also deserving of punishment from admins for it.

Yes but i was new when i made those rps to ;p i didnt know what an rpg server really was then. When i look back it was pure dm and i could have been banned

[SugarD]

Yes but i was new when i made those rps to ;p i didnt know what an rpg server really was then. When i look back it was pure dm and i could have been banned

Ah, I thought you meant an existing player was doing it to you when you were new. Apologies.

[Jellyfish]

Most people don't even have a clear concept of roleplaying. I once got stopped by some guy named Paris who shot at my bike (I was an officer) and said "Stop, this is rp!!". In similar cases the administrators are so amused that they just let it go.

[Kirgiz]

Roleplaying cannot be refused, but can not be forced either.

oxymoron

well played gregersen, gg.

[SugarD]

oxymoron

well played gregersen, gg.

He's not being a smartass about it.

Please see this:

This topic may be of interest to you all:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=88900.0

[Duel]

There is a difference between Power-gaming and forcing Role play.

Just to add to the conversation, i consider this as forced RP:

This is power-gaming.

As you should know by now Argonath does not support OOC / IC, therefore forcing role play IC is called power-gaming, which then leads to it being misinterpreted as "forcing role play" when forcing role play has nothing to do with IC.

This is were the rule counteracts with another. But, if you do research on it within the community, you would clearly understand the difference.

Marcel, your example was a perfect example of power-gaming.. Forcing role play is more like "give money or die" or stuff along those lines. DEPENDING on the LEVEL of the role play, such as Marcel's example would be taken as power-gaming, since its at an adequate level of role play, where as "give money or die" is a stupid prime example of retarded role play, with someone who is here to give everyone a hard time, and surely I will punish for "give money or die" it is not role play at all. And same goes for "/me takes out knife and kills" or "/me takes out gun and shoots" - That is a kindergarten level of role play and should be considered 'inexperienced' in the role playing field.

If you disagree on what I said about Marcel's example, then re-read my whole message a few times till you understand what I meant.. It's hard to explain..

Anyways, if you want to role play by being lazy and using a lame "/me" line, then here's something for you,

Never Go Full Retard (HD)

[SugarD]

Anyways, if you want to role play by being lazy and using a lame "/me" line, then here's something for you,

Never Go Full Retard (HD)

Lame /me line? That's what Argo was founded on. Anyone who says /me is not the correct way of roleplaying has gained a major script dependency, and may need to rethink how they play...

[[WS]Jacob]

Roleplay is about two elements. One player's action will allow another to react. If it's just one players action then it's forced roleplay.