Nearly half of all voters want Britain to leave the European Union

[Mikal]

In 2001 there were 122.500 Albanians living in the UK, the number has not risen since.
Also Albania is NOT a member of the WU, it is in applicant status.
Another lie by Nigel....

He said Albania Romania is a corrupt mess and should not have been able to join the EU at all, that is not a lie, thats the truth.

Fact remains that the 25,000 Albanians Romanians arrested in London last year, still came from the Albania to the UK, what does that say?
It says we can expect alot more Albanian criminals if the EU allows the open border policy for Albania, I'm not saying all Albanians Romanians are criminals, but there is a MASSIVE criminal problem in Albania Romania, and that problem is already spreading to other countries when the open border policy hasn't even happend yet.

Instead of contributing you would be receiving help. And of course half of your bank accounts would be confiscated. Well that would make those Albanians leave....

The UK has already condemned what happend in Cyprus, I doubt they would do it here under any circumstances.

Perhaps you should first take care of those 'ADULTS' before pointing at the EU.
It seems to me the internal problems in the UK are far worse as anything regarding the EU. But people like Farage use the old tactic of pointing at an external factor they know will not disappear so they never get to the task of acutally doing what they shout about.

Nigel runs the UK Independence Party, what do you expect? The main problems do not lay with the UK, though we do have many problems at home, the main problem is the EU, it's nothing but a distraction, without it, our government might actually be able to focus on what goes on here in the UK.

Look what the EU has done to Westminister, they spend all their time discussing gay marriage and other stupid things which IMO, do not matter at all, and why is that? Thats because the EU has taken all the important things which used to happen in Westminister, and deal with them themselves, without the UK ever having a say in any of it.

Germany and France contributes more than UK, and we don't complain. We try to find solutions, and not giving up. EU is something that needs time to construct and optimize.

Thats because everything important happens in Germany, and France, well France, you need to start complaining, before you turn into a right shithole.

[Cyril]

He said Albania is a corrupt mess and should not have been able to join the EU at all, that is not a lie, thats the truth

Politics say a lot of things, it doesn't mean it's true

[Mikal]

MASSIVE NOTE: I apologise, I just realised, when I said Albania, I meant ROMANIA, damn it.
Sorry Albanians, it's the Romanians stealing from our bank accounts.

[Antonio.]

He said Albania is a corrupt mess and should not have been able to join the EU at all, that is not a lie, thats the truth.

Bulgaria and Hungary are also good examples, but they are EU countries as well. Whether you like it or not, there's corruption every where you turn.

Fact remains that the 25,000 Albanians arrested in London last year, still came from the Albania to the UK, what does that say?
It says we can expect alot more Albanian criminals if the EU allows the open border policy for Albania, I'm not saying all Albanians are criminals, but there is a MASSIVE criminal problem in Albania, and that problem is already spreading to other countries when the open border policy hasn't even happend yet.

We can talk about Albanian criminals being the main problem when Serbia or Bosnia removes the border controls.


Post Merge: May 19, 2013, 10:38:29 pmI noticed your fail. Now I don't think you're a complete idiot anymore.

[Mikal]

Bulgaria and Hungary are also good examples, but they are EU countries as well. Whether you like it or not, there's corruption every where you turn.
We can talk about Albanian criminals being the main problem when Serbia or Bosnia removes the border controls.

Read my previous post, I meant Romania this whole time, not Albania.
The 'nia' at the end got me confused, sorry.

Post Merge: May 19, 2013, 10:38:29 pmI noticed your fail. Now I don't think you're a complete idiot anymore.

:bow:

Edit: Albania Romania.

[Gandalf]

Mikal as you see you are making statements that are simply unfounded.\
As for Romanians: in 2009 there were 58.000 of them living in the Uk, less than Albanians. Now you may believe that 50% of the Romanians are arrested, but I am sure reality is different and if you would find a transcript of the speech even Nigel Farage would not have said that.

By the way, you are aware that the EU is paying the salary of Nigel Farage, as he is a British representative in the EU parliament? Now if the EU was a dictatorship, would they allow their opposition to be part of their parliament?
Think of that and then see what weight really to give.

You want the problems solved? Get to work, create new things and create jobs.
Take the UK out of the crisis, and other countries will follow.
The alternative is not an alternative. If you feel your boss spends too much on unneeded things you can resign and sit at home without money, or try to make him see things your way by facts.

[Mikal]

Mikal as you see you are making statements that are simply unfounded.\
As for Romanians: in 2009 there were 58.000 of them living in the Uk, less than Albanians. Now you may believe that 50% of the Romanians are arrested, but I am sure reality is different and if you would find a transcript of the speech even Nigel Farage would not have said that.

I'm looking on Youtube for it as we speak.

By the way, you are aware that the EU is paying the salary of Nigel Farage, as he is a British representative in the EU parliament? Now if the EU was a dictatorship, would they allow their opposition to be part of their parliament?
Think of that and then see what weight really to give.

Tell me, who elected President Van Rompuy?
And if they are paying Nigel, then yes, they are paying their opposition, as he runs UKIP, a party whos main goal is getting the UK out of the EU.

You want the problems solved? Get to work, create new things and create jobs.
Take the UK out of the crisis, and other countries will follow.
The alternative is not an alternative. If you feel your boss spends too much on unneeded things you can resign and sit at home without money, or try to make him see things your way by facts.

It's easy for you to give all this advice, but your country is not one of the ones being ruined by this union.
I work 9 hours a day 6 days a week, I don't have time to run the UK.

[Mikal]

Couldn't find the same page I found before, but hey, heres something just as clear that shows allowing them to have open borders to the EU, is just as freaking bad.

News:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2285177/28-000-Romanians-held-crimes-UK-5-years--68-000-living-here.html

Nigel Farage about Bulgaria and Romania

Nigel Farage vs. Tony Blair FULL ORIGINAL

Blair got owned, but when he responded to Nigel, all the EU suckups applauded, despite the fact that Nigel was right.

[Gandalf]

Couldn't find the same page I found before, but hey, heres something just as clear that shows allowing them to have open borders to the EU, is just as freaking bad.

News:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2285177/28-000-Romanians-held-crimes-UK-5-years--68-000-living-here.html

It is not freaking bad, but frealing hilarious.
If you have to believe the figures, for every crime 5 Romanians are caught.
And 1.5% of all of them land in jail.

That is not a problem of Romanians I am seeing there, nor of the EU....

[Mikal]

It is not freaking bad, but freaking hilarious.
If you have to believe the figures, for every crime 5 Romanians are caught.
And 1.5% of all of them land in jail.

That is not a problem of Romanians I am seeing there, nor of the EU....

How can this not be a problem? Damn, what the hell..

[Aksel]

The same debate is going on in my country aswell as in the UK. The current situation of the southern states within the EU is facinating, and a little scary. Unfortunately, it is all about politics, and the bureaucracy in Brussels. The EU have tried to set a basic economy onto all European states which is not possible, as all states varies geographicaly, demographicaly and economic.

Unfortunately, what the EU has done, is to cut in the public sector in most countries that suffer hard from the economic crisis. Privatisation of hospitals, schools, energy, water supply, industry...

They should have learned from Iceland. Iceland was at rock bottom a few years ago. Just as Greece, Spain, Cyprus and so on.

The EU is unfortunately a dead project, and not democratic at all. Moving the democracy, in UKs position, from London to Brussels is very undemocratic. Who knows the UK best? Citizen within the UK, or bureaucrats in Brussels?

[Mikal]

The same debate is going on in my country aswell as in the UK. The current situation of the southern states within the EU is facinating, and a little scary. Unfortunately, it is all about politics, and the bureaucracy in Brussels. The EU have tried to set a basic economy onto all European states which is not possible, as all states varies geographicaly, demographicaly and economic.

Unfortunately, what the EU has done, is to cut in the public sector in most countries that suffer hard from the economic crisis. Privatisation of hospitals, schools, energy, water supply, industry...

They should have learned from Iceland. Iceland was at rock bottom a few years ago. Just as Greece, Spain, Cyprus and so on.

The EU is unfortunately a dead project, and not democratic at all. Moving the democracy, in UKs position, from London to Brussels is very undemocratic. Who knows the UK best? Citizen within the UK, or bureaucrats in Brussels?

Well said. :bow:

[Reece]

UK? Democracy? You what? We are far from democratic in so many ways, but it is a good system. I'll never support our presence in the EU, bring back the empire.

The fact that UKIP has gone from very little to becoming the third party is a big deal. They represent so many seats in local councils, which is great.

Sick of the liblabcon mess.

[Salmonella]

All because nobody really voted for Bonnie Tyler in the Eurovision song contest.  :roll:

[Gandalf]

How can this not be a problem? Damn, what the hell..

It is a problem, but shows rahter the inefficiency or bad statistical data of the Britsh law enforcement as anything to do with the EU.

Think about it. For every crime comitted by Romanians (5313) they catch five people. However for 5313 crimes only 494 are in jail, meaning that 98.5% of people caught in relation with a crime seem to go free, of the 27725 people caught 27329 are sent home.
That has nothing to do with a problem of the EU...