What to do when RHL expires

[SugarD]

1. They are forced to give up when they cant take down the criminality. Back in the old days you had skilled cop groups to take down big criminals groups.
2. No he is not, thats just a retarded rule.
3. It has always worked, and I bet it still works, its just the way cops try to win over criminals that is stupid, they are doing it in stupid ways, if they started using their brains while planning to take down criminals, it would make everything much easier And when cops start to use their common sense, which criminals learned a long time ago, the never-ending shootouts will stop.
You are still the same RP person if you escape the cops, like it has ALWAYS been before is that if you DIE and return to RP you break the rule, not if you escape.

And yeah, I see what you did there

1. Really? In what country do they do that? Backing off to protect life and giving up are not the same thing.
2. Yes he is, and that is unfortunate that you feel that way, but it doesn't change the fact that the rule exists.
3. So it's stupid that police are trying to protect people and bring criminals to justice who break the law? Alright. That's about as logical as saying that we have laws, but you're not required to follow them.
4. Not according to the rules, you aren't.

Sugar , So if cops abuse /su you punish them , Cops doesnt abuse you dont .
Let's do this then : Suspects wants to make a non-ending shootout , Punish them , Others don't , Easy , Isn't it ?

Yes. They aren't trying to roleplay, they are trying to DM. Why would they get suspected just to be in a shootout?

[Drawn]

Are you serious right now ? I'v told you , If they try to make a non-ending shootout , Punish them , Otherwise don't.
You have been misunderstanding half of my posts here.

[SugarD]

Are you serious right now ? I'v told you , If they try to make a non-ending shootout , Punish them , Otherwise don't.
You have been misunderstanding half of my posts here.

Then you should not word your posts to say that it is okay to do those things.

[Petarda]

How long it will take for admin team to realise that every problem is caused by freecops and ARPD rules?

It would be good if you reply to this nicely and not like "lol wtf u dont get point of this topic hueheu"

[SugarD]

How long it will take for admin team to realise that every problem is caused by freecops and ARPD rules?

A very long time since that is not the problem at all.

[AK47]

A very long time since that is not the problem at all.

It is.

[SugarD]

It is.

If Freecops and ARPD were the entire problem, we would not be having this conversation. The problem lies within players themselves, not the roleplay groups or scripted jobs.

[Pandalink]

Yes. They aren't trying to roleplay, they are trying to DM. Why would they get suspected just to be in a shootout?

I'm going to tear my hair out man. Jesus, come on. Read his post again.

Can someone make a TL;DR of this topic?

Discussion of whether suspects who run out their RHL should be able to stay with a party of suspects to assist in their escape.
Some people are posting that they want it made so that you are forced to instantly abandon them even if you're, say, driving them in a car (thus leaving them to die).
Other people attempt to point out how completely unreasonable and illogical that is.
These people are currently failing to get other side to understand basic points.
Will continue attempts.

Then you should not word your posts to say that it is okay to do those things.

Can you like.. not understand his english or something..? It's fine for me.

[Drawn]

Sugar , You again missed my post , If someone wants a non-ending shootout , Punish him , But for the other people don't , It's easy as that.

[JackWhite]

1. Really? In what country do they do that? Backing off to protect life and giving up are not the same thing.
2. Yes he is, and that is unfortunate that you feel that way, but it doesn't change the fact that the rule exists.
3. So it's stupid that police are trying to protect people and bring criminals to justice who break the law? Alright. That's about as logical as saying that we have laws, but you're not required to follow them.
4. Not according to the rules, you aren't.
Yes. They aren't trying to roleplay, they are trying to DM. Why would they get suspected just to be in a shootout?

1. I never said they did it in any country since this is not a RLRP server, I thought you knew that? Backing off would save lifes, cops lifes. The criminals doesnt kill civilians.
2. A rule that you claim has existed, but that has never been taken action against, makes sense.
3. I never said its stupid that they force the laws, I said that the way they TRY to do it is stupid. Look back in the old days when you had SWAT with Oliver Daniels and those guys, thats a team that worked out for a quite a while, untill criminals became better than them. After that, SRU came, a team which I f**king hated when I was a criminal. But guess why I hated them? Because they were better than me, they knew what I did to stay alive and be better than the cops, and they were better than me. I later on joined SRU and saw how they worked and it was an excellent jobs they did and I loved it. Wanna know why I loved it? Because we always won. Why did criminals HATE us? Because they always lost. (Not always, but 99% of the times they did).
4. I did, you just cant look at a case from several sides.


If you wanna reply to a post, read the whole post and dont try to change the subject all the time.

[SugarD]

Sugar , You again missed my post , If someone wants a non-ending shootout , Punish him , But for the other people don't , It's easy as that.

As I said, I understand you. It was not what you had said earlier.

I'm going to tear my hair out man. Jesus, come on. Read his post again.

What he and others said was fairly clear.

[Petarda]

A very long time since that is not the problem at all.

It is.

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Let me tell you, today me and my friends got suspected, since it was long distance shootout and one cop was near us we tried to kidnap him. FBI Agent was about to RP but then, a freecop came there and started shooting and ruined everything. Thats what I'm talking about, they're causing DM on this server

[SugarD]

The criminals doesnt kill civilians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_killer

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Let me tell you, today me and my friends got suspected, since it was long distance shootout and one cop was near us we tried to kidnap him. FBI Agent was about to RP but then, a freecop came there and started shooting and ruined everything. Thats what I'm talking about, they're causing DM on this server

You just generalized an entire group over a single user. That is called stereotyping.

[Salmonella]

Someone asked for a TL;DR?

TL;DR: A rule which has apparently existed for over 4 years (I still am not sure) that has been forgotten about by everyone whom it involves, including the admins, now makes a return thanks to the people who don't just play by the rules, but moreover for the rules, if at all.

Panda gave the perfect solution:

We should just leave it how it's always been, that suspects who run out their RHL but remain with active suspects are liable to be resuspected for aiding. Suspects in fight situations won't even run their RHL down anyway, and suspects in a group escape that run out their RHL can either dive out of the car and get away, or stay and risk themselves further to increase the group's overall chance of success in escaping together. That adds a level of control and choice to the situation, and makes it simpler for pursuing law enforcement to understand what they must do.

How it has always been, indeed.

[Devin]

How long it will take for admin team to realise that every problem is caused by freecops and ARPD rules?

It would be good if you reply to this nicely and not like "lol wtf u dont get point of this topic hueheu"

How long will it take for you to realize we are just players with a couple extra commands which were given to us as we were trusted to take care of things within the server?
Not every problem is caused by cops and their rules, please don't come with that nonsense to try point the blame on a specific group of players.

I'm rather bored of people coming along trying to slate the administration team for no reason what so ever.
If you have a problem with how administration members work, you know where to report them.