Piers Morgan: No regrets over calling US gun lobby stupid

[Mikal]

As I said, it's only a matter of time.

No, LOOOOOOOOOOOL, sorry but thats hilarious, it will never happen in the UK aslong as the gun laws stay as they are, you've noticed you have a major problem, both in denial and guns and so you try to say it will happen in other countries to make your situation look normal, we don't have a gun problem and never will aslong as our laws stay the same, along with many other countries in Europe, and around the world as a matter of fact, the US stands out most because it's supposed to be a 'modern and civilized' country, but your gun problem says otherwise, a celebrity went against guns, and now you're trying to remove him from the country he lives in when he's a legit tax paying citizen who has a say in what goes on there.

[SugarD]

No, LOOOOOOOOOOOL, sorry but thats hilarious, it will never happen in the UK aslong as the gun laws stay as they are, you've noticed you have a major problem, both in denial and guns and so you try to say it will happen in other countries to make your situation look normal, we don't have a gun problem and never will aslong as our laws stay the same, along with many other countries in Europe, and around the world as a matter of fact, the US stands out most because it's supposed to be a 'modern and civilized' country, but your gun problem says otherwise, a celebrity went against guns, and now you're trying to remove him from the country he lives in when he's a legit tax paying citizen who has a say in what goes on there.

You can keep playing the blame game all you like, but it's an inevitability. The world is becoming more and more chaotic as each day passes. Humanity eventually will stop caring about laws. We've all seen the movies, history books, etc., and we know where our race is headed. Just because it's not an issue for you now doesn't mean it won't be later.

Long story short, the smart thing to do is prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Doing anything else could catch you off guard or make you paranoid, and would become your own downfall. Same goes for natural and manmade disasters, and riots.

[Mikal]

Right because the movies made in Hollywood are all factual, it's not playing the blame game, the only country with this sort of problem is the US, along with a few other unstable messes of countries, aslong as countries like the UK uphold gun laws, we'll never go through what the US is going through, you're in a problem you cannot get out of because for some reason your guns matter more to you than the people who get shot in the US everyday, I don't need to prepare for the worst, I don't live in a country where everyone, EVEN KIDS, have guns, seems to me like you're just talking random now to get out of talking about the main issue.

[SugarD]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_(2010%E2%80%9312)

China. They have guns banned. I think this sums up several of my points quite well.

[John_Goldman]

I thought I made it fairly clear you can't compare US gun crime to UK or any where else gun crime. The United States is the complete opposite to the UK in these terms. Stop trying to compare them, it will never work.

[SugarD]

I thought I made it fairly clear you can't compare US gun crime to UK or any where else gun crime. The United States is the complete opposite to the UK in these terms. Stop trying to compare them, it will never work.

I never compared them. I said one day every place is going to get overrun by guns regardless of laws. They are way too common, and the mentality of the human race is shifting more towards violence worldwide every day. It's only a matter of time. I'm not saying the UK has a problem now. I'm saying everyone will eventually.

[Mikal]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_(2010%E2%80%9312)

China. They have guns banned. I think this sums up several of my points quite well.

25 dead, sorry how many people die in shooting in the US in 2 years because of shootings? Well I can say everyday since people do die in the US from being shot everyday.

I thought I made it fairly clear you can't compare US gun crime to UK or any where else gun crime. The United States is the complete opposite to the UK in these terms. Stop trying to compare them, it will never work.

If you'd bothered reading you'd see we arn't comparing the US and UK, we are arguing because SugarD said the UK will have the same problem in the future, when it clearly wont as we have some of the tightest gun laws in the world, armed response units who respond to any incident, and high jail time for those who obtain a gun illegally.

[SugarD]

25 dead, sorry how many people die in shooting in the US in 2 years because of shootings?

You forgot the 115 injured, as well as the several other shootings and stabbings listed on that page.

That is a place where guns are banned completely. Need I say more?

[Mikal]

You forgot the 115 injured, as well as the several other shootings and stabbings listed on that page.

That is a place where guns are banned completely. Need I say more?

Only several other shootings? Sorry how many shootings are there in the US per year? China has the worlds biggest population by miles, so the statistics for China arnt that bad, quit trying to make it out other countries have major gun problems like the USA's just to make it seem normal. :poke:

[John_Goldman]

Seriously, you CAN'T compare United States gun crime to ANYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY other country. Not England, not Germany, not Australia, not China, not Russia. NOT ANY COUNTRY. We have a complete different populace with a different set of morals. STOP trying to compare them. I don't give a shit how many shootings London's had compared to Chicago. I don't care how many shootings or stabbings China has had. They don't have the same issues we do in America. Unless you've been in America for more than a month or actually live here, don't say you know my country. I know my own country. SugarD is the only other American in this debate(AFAIK) so he and I are the only ones who can speak on behalf on the US.

So until you come and experience American culture and see what America is really like, you have no business to be debating gun control in my country.

[Mikal]

I see you are another American who thinks the whole UK is 'England', funny thing is the US government and many laws were created off the basis of UK laws, and the largest majority of Americans are British descendants, so I think it's pretty obvious both countries can be compared, even if you Americans have strayed miles off the path of the UK, the main issue you have in the US is that you're all in denial, atleast the ones who support keeping guns anyway, and until every kid of every person who supports keeping guns is shot, nothing will change, oh wait, nothing will change if that even happend, because then you'd just say 'Oh hey, we should give kids guns so they can defend themselves!', also seems your current country is the UK, have you been shot/seen anyone get shot in your time over here? :razz:

[John_Goldman]

I see you are another American who thinks the whole UK is 'England', funny thing is the US government and many laws were created off the basis of UK laws, and the largest majority of Americans are British descendants, so I think it's pretty obvious both countries can be compared, even if you Americans have strayed miles off the path of the UK, the main issue you have in the US is that you're all in denial, atleast the ones who support keeping guns anyway, and until every kid of every person who supports keeping guns is shot, nothing will change, oh wait, nothing will change if that even happend, because then you'd just say 'Oh hey, we should give kids guns so they can defend themselves!', also seems your current country is the UK, have you been shot/seen anyone get shot in your time over here? :razz:

Are you saying the UK and the US are practically the same socially and economically just because most of our citizens are of british heritage? That doesn't even make sense. We are very different is so many different ways. Our gun problem is so different from yours that there isn't even a word to describe it.

sidenote I'm not sure why my country is listed as the UK.

[Mikal]

Are you saying the UK and the US are practically the same socially and economically just because most of our citizens are of british heritage? That doesn't even make sense. We are very different is so many different ways. Our gun problem is so different from yours that there isn't even a word to describe it.

sidenote I'm not sure why my country is listed as the UK.

What does economics have to do with this? Damn right we are very different, we'd never let a bunch of innocent kids get shot up over here and still support guns being in the public domain. :trust:

[John_Goldman]

What does economics have to do with this? Damn right we are very different, we'd never let a bunch of innocent kids get shot up over here and still support guns being in the public domain. :trust:

And we would. That's how we're different. Guns to us are different than guns to you. You're born into a country without guns, hence you're anti-gun. I'm born into a country with guns, hence I'm pro-gun. Since the majority of Americans are pro-gun, our gun laws will not change.

[Mikal]

And we would. That's how we're different. Guns to us are different than guns to you. You're born into a country without guns, hence you're anti-gun. I'm born into a country with guns, hence I'm pro-gun. Since the majority of Americans are pro-gun, our gun laws will not change.

And thats why the blood of all shootings is on your hands, you continue to support guns even after a bunch of 5 year olds were shot up, sick in the head.