Egypt declares national emergency

[Lionel Valdes]

Religion is honestly the countries problem, and always will be, it's no coincidence that all Islamic countries are in a mess, not trying to start some kind of religious argument here, just stating what are in my eyes, facts.

Name an Islamic country that doesn't have major problems.

Morocco. (It's not Islamic but well..majority is Muslim)

[Dolfagr]

Right, as I said, Muslims will always blame the US and UK for Islamic countries problems, as you are doing now.
Bled Asia? I'm sorry, isn't China, India, Japan and many others doing completely f**king epic compared to the UK and USA?
Do note how 3 of the countries I just mentioned arnt Islamic, and are doing very well, even with this global economic crisis going on, one of the things I've always wondered, if your Islamic god truly existed, why are all the countries which follow him/her/it full of mass murder, war and political crisis, compared to countries which are not Islamic.

I hope you can see I'm trying to have a civilized conversation here, and not trying to start a mass argument, before someone comes along and says 'OMG NO RELIGIOUS TALK OR BAN' - Life is based around politics and religion, why are they banned from Argonath?

China is still rather uncivilized and many can't afford basic stuff we get everyday. The human labour is what keeps it strong like that .India is also a developing country who spend their GDP on warfare rather than welfare with a large percentage of poverty and Japan has it's own big problems with the Nuclear crisis. Of course though, these have nothing to do with religion..

As I said they started blaming you when you gave them the initiative to. A religion itself may not cause trouble, but when it is exploited, any religion can be dangerous and harmful.

You may also be right that these times there is more trouble in Islamic countries but you need to realize that they are also developing countries in all terms. If we go back a few hundred years, Europe was a battlefield between neighboring nations, witch hunters and Crusades to spread Christianity.

I see nothing wrong with discussing politics or religion at all, no matter the subject.

[Mikal]

China is still rather uncivilized and many can't afford basic stuff we get everyday.

And yet it's people don't go round blowing eachother up.

India is also a developing country who spend their GDP on warfare rather than welfare with a large percentage of poverty and Japan has it's own big problems with the Nuclear crisis.

India? Spending on warfare? Sorry, last time I checked they were still buying WW2 ships off Britain, for cheap.

You may also be right that these times there is more trouble in Islamic countries but you need to realize that they are also developing countries in all terms. If we go back a few hundred years, Europe was a battlefield between neighboring nations, witch hunters and Crusades to spread Christianity.

A few hundred years ago, and that has completely died off, Catholics and Christians are now pretty much 'civilized' other than the odd case, where as Islamic religion creates mass murder on a daily basis, why did those 2 men hack a British soldier to death in Woolwich? Because of Islamic religion, they claimed the British had been killing Muslims. Theres a major difference between a few hundred years ago, and today.

[Lionel Valdes]

If you're going to blame someone refer to HIM not to his religion. Why do you affiliate Islam with this? It doesnt make any sense. They say they're doing it for the religion but it's all wrong. Miseducation is the word.

[Omar Aly]

Religion is honestly the countries problem, and always will be, it's no coincidence that all Islamic countries are in a mess, not trying to start some kind of religious argument here, just stating what are in my eyes, facts.

Name an Islamic country that doesn't have major problems.

Tell me more about KSA and UAE...

[EliteTerm]

Was checking out some videos of the situation then I came across this:

[Whiteman]

Was checking out some videos of the situation then I came across this:

What the fuck.

[[WS]Jacob]

Was checking out some videos of the situation then I came across this:

If the UN response teams had access to Syria then they would be able to investigate these conspiracy claims but they aren't letting them in.

[Def Perry]

Religion is honestly the countries problem, and always will be, it's no coincidence that all Islamic countries are in a mess, not trying to start some kind of religious argument here, just stating what are in my eyes, facts.

Name an Islamic country that doesn't have major problems.

First of all, I do not have a religion and do not have any relation with any Arabic country. I am just here to mention that your so-called ''facts'' are completely false. Please read.

There are Islamic countries which are not a mess. The mess in the countries you mention, is caused by the radical groups in their countries. The majority of the muslims does not support the radical groups. [click]

In case you wonder why your country is being ''invaded'' by muslims, it is very logical. You almost controlled every Arabic country for decades, and now you won't accept them to go to your country? The only language they probably speak beside their own language, is English. If my country was constantly at war, I would have left as soon as possible too, to somewhere I could make a living. I am not saying that I would accept every Muslim in my country, but just explaining why YOUR COUNTRY, GREAT BRITAIN, is chosen often.

To just give you an example of Islamic countries who do not have major problems:

Jordan
Kuwait
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates
Indonesia
Turkey

[Zorex116]

First of all, I do not have a religion and do not have any relation with any Arabic country. I am just here to mention that your so-called ''facts'' are completely false. Please read.

There are Islamic countries which are not a mess. The mess in the countries you mention, is caused by the radical groups in their countries. The majority of the muslims does not support the radical groups. [click]

In case you wonder why your country is being ''invaded'' by muslims, it is very logical. You almost controlled every Arabic country for decades, and now you won't accept them to go to your country? The only language they probably speak beside their own language, is English. If my country was constantly at war, I would have left as soon as possible too, to somewhere I could make a living. I am not saying that I would accept every Muslim in my country, but just explaining why YOUR COUNTRY, GREAT BRITAIN, is chosen often.

To just give you an example of Islamic countries who do not have major problems:

Jordan
Kuwait
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates
Indonesia
Turkey

Malaysia? :3

[Ehks]

A few hundred years ago, and that has completely died off, Catholics and Christians are now pretty much 'civilized' other than the odd case, where as Islamic religion creates mass murder on a daily basis, why did those 2 men hack a British soldier to death in Woolwich? Because of Islamic religion, they claimed the British had been killing Muslims. Theres a major difference between a few hundred years ago, and today.

Of all the religious wars in human history waged by any religion, at any place, and at any time, none have been bloodier, more genocidal, more barbaric, and more protracted than the 200-year "holy wars" by the Western Crusades against the Arabs and Islam. The Crusaders came from all over Western Europe, but France was somehow their main bulwark. many other Europeans joined in such as English, Scottish, Welch, Irish, Italians, Germans, Austrians, Spanish, Portuguese, Normans, Belgians, Dutch, Scandinavians, and Swiss.

In order to raise a large army to fight the Arabs and Islam, Pope Urban II (The French monk) promised that all Crusaders would be exempted from taxes; their debts would be forgiven; their sins would be washed away; and their special place in Paradise would be guaranteed.

the Crusaders came in a seemingly solid mass, some with all of their belongings, to join in this mad holy war to destroy Islam. Their objective was to kill Arabs and Turks whom Pope Urban II described as "an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God", urging his followers to "exterminate this vile race from our lands."

They committed, both in Europe and the Arab/Muslim world, the worst conceivable horrible crimes and atrocities, not only against thousands of innocent Muslims and Jews of both sexes and of all ages, but also even against Christians. Their vicious crimes against noncombatants and innocent peoples included the destruction of properties; pillaging; plundering; foraging; ravaging; stealing; setting houses on fire; torturing; murdering; executing; burning humans alive; raping women, including nuns; and even roasting and eating (with a great deal of relish) the human flesh of their victims and their children.

You also say (in an in-direct way) that Islam supports destruction, killing and such..

Please listen to this:


If you start from the beginning, you might think it's not related to the topic here.. So skip to 2:25.

Right, as I said, Muslims will always blame the US and UK for Islamic countries problems, as you are doing now.

War Over Oil in Iraq

I can provide more.

It's not like you find the U.S somewhat peaceful.

Topic: France confirms Syria 'sarin use'

Lol, the white house said more proof was needed? If it was them instead of France, they would be going in guns blazing by now. :roll:

Topic: Former CIA Agent leaks US surveillance programmes

'Uncle Sam' is a fat stealing liar who murders to get his own way. :roll:

Topic: North Korea ... nuclear attack on U.S.

I hate the US government, now don't accuse me of being biased or one sided towards Americans, I hate your government, not you.

Religion is never the problem, it's those who take advantage of it are the problem.

[Gandalf]

Talking of religion, how is the IRA doing lately?

[Dolfagr]

Mikal if you also go back, less than 20 years there was a major conflict between the Orthodox Serbs and Catholic Croats where some horrible war crimes on human population occured.

Talking of religion, how is the IRA doing lately?

Now that Gaddafi can't look after them, I am not so sure.

[Mikal]

Morocco. (It's not Islamic but well..majority is Muslim)

Correct me if I'm wrong, with the majority being Muslim, doesn't that make the whole country Islamic?
Same story with the UK, 1 in 12 people are Catholics, meaning the UK is basically a catholic country, even with 10,000,000 (and growing) atheists.

Was checking out some videos of the situation then I came across this:

WOW, honestly I literally believe this, I was looking in the Daily Mirror paper earlier, and on the cover it showed about 8 dead Syrian children, I swear 2 of them had a slight smile on their face, it almost looked like a completely set up picture, the question is though, why would they want to 'sell' this to us?

If the UN response teams had access to Syria then they would be able to investigate these conspiracy claims but they aren't letting them in.

As if they can't get unauthorised access, and as if countries such as the UK and USA (which already have their special forces operating silently in Syria) can't get access and prove the use of chemical weapons.

Talking of religion, how is the IRA doing lately?

Well, they've pretty much fallen, apart from the odd 'tiny fart' group running round with the odd pipe bomb that fails to explode, thanks for showing interest in that.

Can't be bothered quoting other posts, they made them too complicated and I honestly can't be bothered replying to them right now, just finished work. =)

[Perfect_Knight]

We want the army to rule us, Why are you interfering us? You want to consider that as a coup but one way or other you've nothing to do here, Also this topic is now off topic, Stay in topic, About Egypt, The 35Million person whom protested againest Morsi, Now, Those aren't weapons ha ?



Whatever happens you've nothing to do with it here, Also don't go off topic