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Title: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on December 09, 2013, 10:03:12 am
A couple of months ago I posted that I got my hands on Windows 8, but then immediatly downgraded back to Windows 7.

However, now when I got my hands on the actual Windows 8.1, I'm already using it for like good three weeks and I'm loving it so far. There are the reasons why you should upgrade to Windows 8:

*Windows 8 is a lot faster than Windows 7, it eats a lot less RAM and other resources.
*Even though you might think it's an absurd, the new Windows 8 interface is actually a lot more comfortable for me. Skype and Facebook now come as intergrated and very cool apps. IF you don't like the whole apps concept, you can just remove them from the Metro UI and replace them by your games, Chrome shortcuts and so on.
*If you don't like Metro UI, you can download various tools to bring the old start menu back. Then it would be exactly as same as Windows 7, only faster..
*Everything that worked on Windows 7 will work on Windows 8, so you don't need to worry about compatibility. (Unless the program is completely DOS based, then just use DosBox)
*Everything is faster, smoother. Remember these times in Windows 7 , when you would load a program and you could hear your computer doing the best it can to open it? (The hard disk clicking like crazy?). Well, that doesn't happen on Windows 8 anymore, everything launches instantly.
*And best of all - Windows 8 supports all Windows 7 drivers, and you can upgrade to Windows 8 without loosing anything from your PC.
*Internet Explorer stereotype no longer works - Internet Explorer is now almost instant , while Chrome takes a while to catch up with it, especially if you use the app.

Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: supermotard420 on December 09, 2013, 10:53:31 am
Windows 7 ftw
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: TheRock on December 09, 2013, 01:07:05 pm
Noty, W7 will still be the best out there for me. From all my friends who tried Windows 8(experienced users), all stated they had drivers issues, also a lot of incompatibility issues running programs or games.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: MikeSangelo on December 09, 2013, 01:12:53 pm
Noty, W7 will still be the best out there for me. From all my friends who tried Windows 8(experienced users), all stated they had drivers issues, also a lot of incompatibility issues running programs or games.

Windows 8.1 really worked on fixing all of those driver issues that people were experiencing. Every game I have on steam works, as well as GTA. I'd give it a shot, it's really good now.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: newguy on December 09, 2013, 01:22:56 pm
Why not just get windows xp, install windows 7 skin and enjoy life as you now have windows 7 that is actually faster?


I'm not convinced that Windows 8 is any better. Skype is not hard to install, and why the hell would I want a facebook app? I don't even use the damn thing.


The hell is Metro UI anyway? EDIT: Just saw it. It looks pretty ugly to me, plus it's unnecessary. Luckily, you can get rid of it as seen here >>>http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/windows/3490242/how-get-rid-of-modern-ui-from-windows-81/ (http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/windows/3490242/how-get-rid-of-modern-ui-from-windows-81/)


*Everything is faster, smoother. Remember these times in Windows 7 , when you would load a program and you could hear your computer doing the best it can to open it? (The hard disk clicking like crazy?). Well, that doesn't happen on Windows 8 anymore, everything launches instantly.


That's not the Windows 7 issue, that's the issue of using a prehistoric computer.


Windows 8 supports all Windows 7 drivers, and you can upgrade to Windows 8 without loosing anything from your PC.


That's not an improvement, as Windows 7 came with a package of most commonly used drivers. You'd still have to manually install drivers for things like wi-fi adapters and certain (mainly older) cards.


Internet Explorer stereotype no longer works - Internet Explorer is now almost instant , while Chrome takes a while to catch up with it, especially if you use the app.


I don't think there's a man that uses Internet Explorer and is actually considered sane.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: TheRock on December 09, 2013, 01:37:18 pm
On top of that; A nice joke:
(http://i1.wp.com/www.top10always.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/main-qimg-acac2245030b2f12110f4f52e76f3e10.jpg?resize=436%2C473)

Wasn't it said that next windows will be named 'Blue' or something? I don't know about W8.1, I might give it a dual-boot shot later this week, and maybe I'll keep it, other than that as picture states IE will always be the last browser to choose. At least anyone with basic experience of using a computer knows that it's not as good as Chrome/Firefox/Opera.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Janar on December 09, 2013, 01:57:54 pm
*And best of all - Windows 8 supports all Windows 7 drivers, and you can upgrade to Windows 8 without loosing anything from your PC.

Definitely not all. The only reason, why I can not update to Windows 8.1, is that there is no known solution to make Android/SE fastboot drivers work. They work on Windows 8, but according to current info, that method does not work on 8.1 and no other solution has been found yet.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Lionel Valdes on December 09, 2013, 02:08:33 pm
XP > All other versions
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on December 09, 2013, 02:12:10 pm
Definitely not all. The only reason, why I can not update to Windows 8.1, is that there is no known solution to make Android/SE fastboot drivers work. They work on Windows 8, but according to current info, that method does not work on 8.1 and no other solution has been found yet.

I have upgraded from windows 7 and didn't loose a byte of info.

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That's not the Windows 7 issue, that's the issue of using a prehistoric computer.

Prehistoric? My PC has no problem running GTA IV, BF3, Crysis 3, Far Cry 3 on ultra. Tell me about it.

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That's not an improvement, as Windows 7 came with a package of most commonly used drivers. You'd still have to manually install drivers for things like wi-fi adapters and certain (mainly older) cards.

Bullshit, after a full windows reinstall you have to install everything manually, as most of these drivers would be downloaded via updates, however, you have to install the network driver first.

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I don't think there's a man that uses Internet Explorer and is actually considered sane.

Dude, Windows 8's internet explorer works better than chrome!

And these who are worried about Metro UI:

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/399/qn30.png)

XP > All other versions

An excuse of a poor man. Forget XP, it's dead, it's old, it's no longer any good. It isnt supported by microsoft anymore, connect to internet - get two hundred viruses. Yes, it was good in GTA SA Era, but now, when all new games are released on newer Windows, XP is useless. Don't say that other versions are shit just because your wooden PC can't handle them.

Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Jaka_Lah on December 09, 2013, 02:19:38 pm
the w8.1 has the new DirectX so all the power to 8.1, but I'm too fucking lazy to format my ssd and re-install all the drivers and nod32.. just thinking about it makes me bored
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on December 09, 2013, 02:32:32 pm
XP was known to be fastest OS before Windows 8. Can it still be called that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6192ie9MbU
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: newguy on December 09, 2013, 06:08:12 pm
XP was known to be fastest OS before Windows 8. Can it still be called that?


Yes it can, as it takes me literally 2 minutes to install it.


I have upgraded from windows 7 and didn't loose a byte of info.

1. Prehistoric? My PC has no problem running GTA IV, BF3, Crysis 3, Far Cry 3 on ultra. Tell me about it.



2. Bullshit, after a full windows reinstall you have to install everything manually, as most of these drivers would be downloaded via updates, however, you have to install the network driver first.



3. An excuse of a poor man. Forget XP, it's dead, it's old, it's no longer any good. It isnt supported by microsoft anymore, connect to internet - get two hundred viruses. Yes, it was good in GTA SA Era, but now, when all new games are released on newer Windows, XP is useless. Don't say that other versions are shit just because your wooden PC can't handle them.




1. Clicking and CPU overworking is NOT a Windows issue. Hard Disks click when they have mechanical problems, software can't make it "click like crazy" just because Windows felt like it. If you have a gorrilion of things running at the same time, no wonder why nothing is going smooth anymore.


2. You can't read. You also have never seen it happen. Commonly used cards and devices have their drivers bundled in with Windows 7, and if that is not the case, Windows 7 easily finds them on the internet from it's database. GPU's and motherboards come with drivers bundled so you WOULDN'T HAVE to use Windows's driver package and get the maximum efficiency from the manufacturer.


3. If you manage to get two hundred viruses on any computer, you shouldn't talk about which Windows is better. Most older PC's can easily handle newer Windows versions, however newers versions require more resources just to keep themselves stable and operational. Do not think that Windows 8 is faster just because you have a better PC, it is not Windows or any other OS that determines how "fast" the computer is.




Many people that I've met so far have only one thing to say about Windows 8 - It crashes their computers DAILY because of bugs, driver failures and various software mismatches. You have yet to convince any sane person.
Flimflam harder.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on December 09, 2013, 06:15:32 pm
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3. If you manage to get two hundred viruses on any computer, you shouldn't talk about which Windows is better. Most older PC's can easily handle newer Windows versions, however newers versions require more resources just to keep themselves stable and operational. Do not think that Windows 8 is faster just because you have a better PC, it is not Windows or any other OS that determines how "fast" the computer is.

You're obviously having no idea what you're speaking of. OS means contributes A LOT to the computers speed. If not, why Vista was so crappy and slow until it was updated? That's because it ate a lot of resources. Windows 8 manages to be basically same as Windows 7 but eat a lot less resources, it also boots up a lot faster which is an advantage, program loading, working, internet browsing is just faster in Windows 8. I compared both windows on the same pc and windows 8 has way better results.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: newguy on December 09, 2013, 06:59:02 pm
You're obviously having no idea what you're speaking of. OS means contributes A LOT to the computers speed. If not, why Vista was so crappy and slow until it was updated? That's because it ate a lot of resources. Windows 8 manages to be basically same as Windows 7 but eat a lot less resources, it also boots up a lot faster which is an advantage, program loading, working, internet browsing is just faster in Windows 8. I compared both windows on the same pc and windows 8 has way better results.


Windows 7 supports fast boot aswell, depending on what kind of BIOS you have.
Internet browsing does not fully depend on the computer. Why does Internet Explorer keep crashing with 8GB's of RAM? Because it sucks and Microsoft knows it.
Windows 8 might have better resource allocation, but you seem to never mention the fact that it's a pain in the ass to actually install the piece of shit and keep it from crashing every two hours.


And what does Vista got to do with all this? We're talking about Windows 7 and Windows 8.




Flimflam harder.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Gird3r on December 09, 2013, 07:18:07 pm
I'm actually happy about Microsoft ruining their own brand, the more they fuck up, the better.
There's not a single worker within the IT industry that could honestly place their hand on the heart and say that working in windows is effective.
Easy maybe, effective? No.

"Remember these times in Windows 7 , when you would load a program and you could hear your computer doing the best it can to open it? (The hard disk clicking like crazy?)."

You lost it completely here, all and any credibility you had dissipated here.
If you are not educated in IT (Or technology) in general, I could look past it. But if you are, shame on you. Have you even opened up a HDD before?

What was windows 7 installed on? SDD or HDD?
What was windows 8.1 installed on? SDD or HDD?

Do you know what SDD and HDD stands for?
Solid State Drive.
Hard Disk Drive.

SDD's has no moving parts whatsoever, NONE. It's a flash drive, not unlike what you encounter with a USB Thumb Drive, just far more advanced.

Usually, you install programs on your C: drive (You can install them on another drive if you want to).
More often than not, certain things from those programs will still be located on your C: drive.

If your C: drive is a HDD, and this HDD is exhibiting clicking noises, it is foreshadowing an inevitable HDD failure (and how long this takes to come true is near impossible to guess, just listen to the sound). (In some cases, it can be fixed. However, the troubles of repairing and fixing it is not worth it unless you have some serious experience with hardware. And even then, it's both cheaper and easier to just replace it).
It has absolutely nothing to do with the software.

If the clicking noise suddenly disappears, good for you. But did you consider the fact that Windows 8.1 might have been installed onto your SDD if you have one?
This would explain that the clicking noise got reduced, since you are now putting far less load on the HDD.
Did you look this up?

You need to consider such things before you make such a bold claim.

This is a concise and effective demonstration of a HDD failure.
If you ever encounter this amount of clicking, there's no hope. Get a new HDD.
(And as a last note, sometimes the problem goes away by itself, but it should not be taken lightly)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwYSdD4fyRU










Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on December 09, 2013, 07:45:31 pm
It's not the same sound, it used to make it on windows 7 when it loads something heavy, i wasnt loud. No, i do not own SDD, my Windows 8.1 is installed in Hard Disk C, just like Windows 7 was.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Michael_LV on December 09, 2013, 07:57:01 pm
Windows XP for life :D I mean, come on. Who could hate on the good ol XP?
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Lionel Valdes on December 09, 2013, 07:59:46 pm
I have upgraded from windows 7 and didn't loose a byte of info.

Prehistoric? My PC has no problem running GTA IV, BF3, Crysis 3, Far Cry 3 on ultra. Tell me about it.

Bullshit, after a full windows reinstall you have to install everything manually, as most of these drivers would be downloaded via updates, however, you have to install the network driver first.

Dude, Windows 8's internet explorer works better than chrome!

And these who are worried about Metro UI:

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/399/qn30.png)

An excuse of a poor man. Forget XP, it's dead, it's old, it's no longer any good. It isnt supported by microsoft anymore, connect to internet - get two hundred viruses. Yes, it was good in GTA SA Era, but now, when all new games are released on newer Windows, XP is useless. Don't say that other versions are shit just because your wooden PC can't handle them.

lol, XP can handle almost all programs on this planet. 8 can't. Haven't you heard of a high-end PC running XP? In my opinion, this is the ideal computer.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Michael_LV on December 09, 2013, 08:03:42 pm
Yeah, forgot to add, XP beats win8 any day. Not even gonna start with the reasons, wouldnt be done til tomorrow.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Janar on December 09, 2013, 08:40:51 pm
For your information, many new applications and games have no support Windows XP and there is no guarantee, that it works with Windows XP at all.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Leon. on December 09, 2013, 08:53:24 pm
If you have the money, I highly recommend getting your hands on a solid-state drive. I won't bother posting why you should. Look it up, and decide for yourself.

Anyone attempting to defend Windows XP are simply stuck in the past, when XP was the most reliable Microsoft OS - and when Microsoft let us down with the release of Vista. XP cannot (and will not, as we progress) utilize the most up-to-date hardware and software as the likes of Windows 7/8 can, and that is perhaps its most major downfall.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: MikeSangelo on December 09, 2013, 11:04:48 pm
I'm shocked people are still running XP with a smile. The only people I know that still has it would be the computer we purchased for our grandparents to use email on years ago. Back to the subject, if you haven't given Windows 8(.1) a shot for a week or more, you didn't give it enough time. I was one of those who upgraded from 7 who hated 8 and reverted back as I had so many compatibility issues. When 8.1 was released, I gave it another go and fell in love with it. It's so much more responsive and snappy than Windows 7. Just try it, you might just like it.

Specs: 2.8GHz i5 Quad Core, 8GB RAM, NVidia GT640
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Julio. on December 09, 2013, 11:14:05 pm
Windows 7 knocks Windows XP dead in the water. XP was absolutely brilliant, don't get me wrong, but in my opinion Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 do outperform it.

Windows 8.1 is one hell of an OS, and especially if you have a Windows Phone, works absolutely perfectly as a cloud based solution. If it wasn't so much of a hassle, I'd be swapping straight from 7 to 8.1 and use it all the time.

As it happens, before people claim I'm biased or anything here, my machine is set up for a quad-boot, meaning I can boot up to: XP, Ubuntu, Windows 7 or Windows 8.1

Windows 8.1 is good, and when Windows 9 comes out I think it'll be the best OS ever made.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Meepy on December 09, 2013, 11:21:57 pm
Windows XP is amazing for running older games/programs from the 90's.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Phil on December 09, 2013, 11:32:19 pm
My personal opinion - Windows 8 / 8.1 are suitable for tablet device interfaces, not desktop machines. Many of my friends share that opinion. I just don't like Windows 8 because all the icons and setup etc look like it was designed by a 5 - 6 year old child, and Microsoft call that trying to brand an identity in the OS market? I beg to differ.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: newguy on December 10, 2013, 01:54:56 pm
The windows 8 shilling is quite intense in this topic.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on December 10, 2013, 03:16:36 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bKFn8VLwek&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Leon. on December 10, 2013, 10:39:48 pm
Windows XP is amazing for running older games/programs from the 90's.
Since my computer isn't very good (for benchmarking purposes: can run Oblivion and New Vegas on low-to-medium graphic settings at about 20-30FPS), I usually play older games, but typically have no issues with pre-2000 games. Any issues that I do come across are typically easily resolved with a little bit of googling and knowledge of troubleshooting.

I have an HP G62 of an unknown specific model. Whatever the model is, not recommended. Then again, doesn't that apply to a lot of HP products? Extreme heat issues - I'm lucky to EVER get it to run below 160 degrees Fahrenheit and it produces enough heat just doing simple tasks to cause heat-related injury if on the lap for long enough, yet it has somehow lasted since Christmas of 2010 without any signs of hardware issues. At least my Christmas gift was better than my old desktop computer... I still remember some of its specs.
Nvidia GeForce 5600 FX Ultra, 2GB Ram, some AMD single-core processor clocked at 2.2GHZ.

Detailed system specs:

Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) II P340 Dual-Core Processor, ~2.2GHz
Memory : 3072MB RAM
Available OS Memory : 2810MB RAM
Video card : AMD M880G with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250, 1401 MB Display Memory and 256 Adapter RAM
Network adapter : Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter
Sound : Realtek High Definition Audio.
Hard disk : ST925041 0AS SATA Disk Device(Seagate, 250G)
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on December 14, 2013, 05:54:41 pm
Speed test windows 8 boot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bKFn8VLwek
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: CharlieKasper on December 14, 2013, 06:15:53 pm
On the current system I am running, I can't install windows 7/8. I can't deny that its good but XP has been pain in the butt since the release of Windows 7, too many viruses. XP can't handle all those new applications which are now more intense on the CPU and RAM, it's simply too old for it.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Matt Murdock on December 17, 2013, 09:58:05 pm
*sigh* Another topic on the internet full of ignorant fanboys not ready to accept a change.

Rytuklis, why are you even wasting your time? :/

If they don't want to try Windows 8 / 8.1 , their loss. Short and simple.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Matt Murdock on December 17, 2013, 10:14:51 pm
P.S. This is what my Windows 8.1 looks like.  :D

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/902621_573012476100379_1483575254_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Fuzzy on December 19, 2013, 04:59:48 pm
I'm shocked people are still running XP with a smile.
Not to mention it will lose ALL support in a few months...No Windows Updates, good luck to y'all getting hacked due to security breaches and such.

P.S. This is what my Windows 8.1 looks like.  :D

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/902621_573012476100379_1483575254_o.jpg)
What mod is that? Would love it in my Surface :)
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: newguy on December 20, 2013, 08:38:22 am
Not to mention it will lose ALL support in a few months...No Windows Updates, good luck to y'all getting hacked due to security breaches and such.


It was supposed to stop updating already, but it still updates regardless.


Windows Updates do not protect you from getting hacked, having functional brains does.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Teddy on December 20, 2013, 10:17:20 am
If they don't want to try Windows 8 / 8.1 , their loss. Short and simple.

Hardly a loss. I've recently upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1 and I still have mixed feelings. It has some cool things, some terrible things, some what the fuck features.

P.S. This is what my Windows 8.1 looks like.  :D

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/902621_573012476100379_1483575254_o.jpg)

That does look pretty nice.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Fuzzy on December 20, 2013, 02:49:59 pm
Windows Updates do not protect you from getting hacked, having functional brains does.
Didn't exactly claim so. Just made a point that Microsoft will not issue any updates for any future breaches/loopholes to be found in XP, which im pretty sure will be everyones great interest since it is still the most commonly used OS in the world. Having a functional brain has nothing to do with having a possibly breachable OS in the future. But if you're gonna throw that argument I'm gonna say that there is NO reason anymore not to upgrade to 7, 8/8.1 if you have a functional brain.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Julio. on December 26, 2013, 07:37:39 pm
In my opinion, one of the most limiting factors of Windows XP, is that practically it's only 32 bit, one hell of a bottleneck for the PC.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Ted on December 26, 2013, 07:51:15 pm
In my opinion, one of the most limiting factors of Windows XP, is that practically it's only 32 bit, one hell of a bottleneck for the PC.

Even though you can get 64bit versions it is like you were getting at limited.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on January 04, 2014, 02:22:48 pm
pain in the ass to actually install the piece of shit and keep it from crashing every two hours.

I'm so laughing at this right now. You just gave yourself away, smartass.. Pain in the ass to install? What are you judging it from? What other people told you? It's now more than obvious you never even had 8 installed on your PC and youre moaning just because others are. For the whole good month if not even more that I have Windows 8 it HAS NOT CRASHED EVEN ONCE, contrary to Windows 7, I constantly game and I do a lot of multitasking and other stuff but it NEVER HAS CRASHED OR EVEN FROZE. Unless you have a 512MB RAM pc or have a corrupted pirate WINDOWS 8.1 installed, well, that's another story, you cant really blame the OS for you being poor.


Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Jaka_Lah on January 04, 2014, 02:53:04 pm
I have had it for 4 days now and .. it is .. kinda cool actually, but I need to take time to change my wallpaper and personalize it a bit but I'm too lazy to, the only problem I have is that it has strange controlls for two screens as each screen has it's own region and not an extended region, so you can open start on both screens and options on both screens, but overall it is good.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on January 04, 2014, 02:58:37 pm
I have had it for 4 days now and .. it is .. kinda cool actually, but I need to take time to change my wallpaper and personalize it a bit but I'm too lazy to, the only problem I have is that it has strange controlls for two screens as each screen has it's own region and not an extended region, so you can open start on both screens and options on both screens, but overall it is good.

You can remove the Metro GUI and return to the normal desktop as you usually would do in Windows 7 and have a start menu. Look it up in google.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Jaka_Lah on January 04, 2014, 03:34:20 pm
You can remove the Metro GUI and return to the normal desktop as you usually would do in Windows 7 and have a start menu. Look it up in google.
I can't be bothered, I'd rather just deal with it.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on January 04, 2014, 03:48:11 pm
I can't be bothered, I'd rather just deal with it.

It's very simple actually. You just right click at your taskbar and choose "boot straight to desktop", then you download a few MB's weighing program and install it. Viola.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: KhornateMonkey on January 04, 2014, 05:04:26 pm
I like my Windows 7
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on January 05, 2014, 10:32:57 am
My Windows 8, can you see the difference? The only thing is that it's few times faster

(http://imageshack.com/a/img819/2152/9x2g.png)
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Kessu on January 05, 2014, 11:49:18 am
You can't blame your PC crashing / freezing on Windows 7. My win7 has been stable for the past 3 years without a single fucking crash unless I was specifically searching for a way to crash it. Considering my overclocks it's a miracle my PC hasn't crashed.

As for Windows 8, I just bought a laptop for my mom as a xmas present and my god I hate that thing.

Getting Win7 to comfortable, useable state takes about 5 minutes after installing it, windows 8 I have yet to get that comfortable feeling with unlike I had with both XP and 7.

In any case, after using the win8 for a week or so, I was more than happy to go back to my desktop PC with a win7 where (hint rytuklis) programs start instantly, the OS doesn't crash and my HDD has no clicking sounds.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: ~Legend~ on January 05, 2014, 11:56:29 am
As for Windows 8, I just bought a laptop for my mom as a xmas present and my god I hate that thing.

Getting Win7 to comfortable, useable state takes about 5 minutes after installing it, windows 8 I have yet to get that comfortable feeling with unlike I had with both XP and 7.

I think I get what you mean. Every time I've tried out 8 I get annoyed by the whole "app culture", everything's got to be in little applications and 'easy to use' boxes. I really like the design though, and at least you can still sit with the normal desktop.

Interface engagement's a bit odd... again I think trying to modernise all the systems and make them seem less static.
Something you expect more with Apple, but MS are definitely heading down that route.

Will have to see how it goes.

It's a shame that when you convert some documents/files from older versions to Win8 supported ones the formatting and such messes up. Not at all unlike what happens when you use compatibility mode with Win7 and Mac.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Darxez on January 05, 2014, 12:15:03 pm
I got Windows 8.1 on my laptop and the first thing I'm saying is: It did increase my battery power time for 30 mins. Win7 is heavier then Win8, that cannot be denied.

I do agree however that it is a bit annoying with the menu, neither is Win8.1 really stable on my PC (I got a HP aswell unfortunatly -,-, might be Norton..). For the gaming, I got Windows 7 on my main PC where I got a normal and good Laptop for scripting and mainly school work.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Devin on January 05, 2014, 12:20:34 pm
I have been running Windows 8 shortly after it was released until now without an issue, and now Windows 8.1 since it became public.
It's simply Microsoft when some have issues while others have none what so ever.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on January 07, 2014, 04:57:23 pm
You can't blame your PC crashing / freezing on Windows 7. My win7 has been stable for the past 3 years without a single f**king crash unless I was specifically searching for a way to crash it. Considering my overclocks it's a miracle my PC hasn't crashed.

As for Windows 8, I just bought a laptop for my mom as a xmas present and my god I hate that thing.

Getting Win7 to comfortable, useable state takes about 5 minutes after installing it, windows 8 I have yet to get that comfortable feeling with unlike I had with both XP and 7.

In any case, after using the win8 for a week or so, I was more than happy to go back to my desktop PC with a win7 where (hint rytuklis) programs start instantly, the OS doesn't crash and my HDD has no clicking sounds.

Dude, my PC is a high-end gaming PC, by HDD clicking sounds It wasnt what I meant, I meant the hard disk light usually flashing a lot when running a program (indicating it's working a lot and a lot of resources are being eaten up). Windows 8.1 is same as Windows 7, you can get rid of the ugly start menu, seriously, i have removed every single default app that came with the thing, installed a "Back to Start menu" few megabytes mod and now i can enjoy a way faster expierence than Windows 7 ever had. And you can bull... us all you want that Windows 7 is running the same or faster than Windows 8, Windows 8 being less resource eating and faster on running programs, shuting down and turning on is proven. No matter how fast your PC is, it will be even faster in Windows 8. Here, take a look

(http://imageshack.com/a/img819/2152/9x2g.png)

AS you see, I dont need to use the default start menu at all, I've set my windows to boot straight to desktop which is a default option, so I'm using it just like I would use windows 7, the only difference - Windows 8.1 is a lot faster.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Jaka_Lah on January 07, 2014, 05:19:13 pm
Yeeeeeeeeeahhhh.......... Steam doesn't work correctly so I'm kinda dissapointed.. but Origin works tho.. so I can play Battlefield 4.. and minecraft.. yay this is horrible
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Teddy on January 08, 2014, 05:26:41 am
Yeeeeeeeeeahhhh.......... Steam doesn't work correctly so I'm kinda dissapointed.. but Origin works tho.. so I can play Battlefield 4.. and minecraft.. yay this is horrible

Steam works fine.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on January 08, 2014, 09:53:08 pm
Yeeeeeeeeeahhhh.......... Steam doesn't work correctly so I'm kinda dissapointed.. but Origin works tho.. so I can play Battlefield 4.. and minecraft.. yay this is horrible

Lol wut, from what kind of trash can did you get your copy of Windows 8.1? Everything works properly, especially Steam.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Jaka_Lah on January 08, 2014, 10:05:07 pm
Lol wut, from what kind of trash can did you get your copy of Windows 8.1? Everything works properly, especially Steam.
Wow so helpful, much win 8 fanboy.

.Net framework 3.5 wasn't optimised for win 8 so my Age of empires somehow got fucked up, so I had to download net framework 3.5 and somehow even .cmd prompt couldn't delete the file AOE2 was installed in.. magic.

So microsoft can burn in hell for creating such an awefull os, it has clearly been made for touchpads and as much as they're trying to get in the industry right now with the PC without a box and the laptopI actually like microsoft. that is also a tablet, they could of just made an OS that was optimised with everything before release, I mean holy shit as soon as you install it you need to sign a deal with the fucking devil, need to log in with a email that binds your soul with the NSA.

I will never support Windows, just the closed code and their shitty attempts at opening app stores makes me hate it more, why can't I see what kind of BS is running in the background because on Linux I'm not using a fourth of the ram I'm using on W8.1, I support open code, I support Steam OS and I need to use windows because of school, tbh I'd rather have a mac.

Microsoft is the illuminati
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: MikeSangelo on January 08, 2014, 11:10:57 pm
Wow so helpful, much win 8 fanboy.

.Net framework 3.5 wasn't optimised for win 8 so my Age of empires somehow got f**ked up, so I had to download net framework 3.5 and somehow even .cmd prompt couldn't delete the file AOE2 was installed in.. magic.

So microsoft can burn in hell for creating such an awefull os, it has clearly been made for touchpads and as much as they're trying to get in the industry right now with the PC without a box and the laptopI actually like microsoft. that is also a tablet, they could of just made an OS that was optimised with everything before release, I mean holy shit as soon as you install it you need to sign a deal with the f**king devil, need to log in with a email that binds your soul with the NSA.

I will never support Windows, just the closed code and their shitty attempts at opening app stores makes me hate it more, why can't I see what kind of BS is running in the background because on Linux I'm not using a fourth of the ram I'm using on W8.1, I support open code, I support Steam OS and I need to use windows because of school, tbh I'd rather have a mac.

Microsoft is the illuminati

First question, is your copy of W8 legit?

Secondly, the "sign in with a Microsoft account" is in place so that it can immediately sync your email, contacts, cloud accounts, social media, and everything else associated with your Microsoft account without you touching a thing. Also, you mentioned you support open code and "signing a deal with the devil," yet, you claim you would rather have a mac? Hm, let's not forget about iTunes registration either.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Teddy on January 08, 2014, 11:15:22 pm
[funny post]

Your post made me laugh, try doing standup comedy.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Kessu on January 08, 2014, 11:23:52 pm
Dude, my PC is a high-end gaming PC
Since I've seen quite few fucked up views about high-end gaming PC, what's yours?

Also I don't know how you can say programs can fire up faster than nearly instantly. When I click something it's open before I can move mouse to the spot that I want to click so speed difference in my case would be highly unnecessary.

And I'm not saying if win8 or win7 is faster, I haven't tested both OS' on same system under same circumstances, all I'm saying is that my win7 is as fast as you can hope your OS to be.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Jaka_Lah on January 09, 2014, 06:25:59 pm
Wow so helpful, much win 8 fanboy.

So microsoft can burn in hell for creating such an awefull os, it has clearly been made for touchpads and as much as they're trying to get in the industry right now with the PC without a box and the laptop[size=pt]I actually like microsoft.[/size] that is also a tablet, they could of just made an OS that was optimised with everything before release, I mean holy shit as soon as you install it you need to sign a deal with the f**king devil, need to log in with a email that binds your soul with the NSA.

Your post made me laugh, try doing standup comedy.
I am, I mean I keep posting here lmao, I almost laughed crying when typing that post.
No but srsly, W8.1 has some compatibility issues but they will surely be fixed in a few months.. but yeah..
#Yoloswag4jesus

Quote
Dude, my PC is a high-end gaming PC
Today I learned; f**ked up windows means you have a bad PC
Let's get this straight, I paid a good sum of money and work.. and bloodselling blood ftw.. for this PC, oh and "High end gaming" means shit, if Windows 8.1 won't work on PCs that are meant for offices (which it was designed for) than it's a shit OS, I have a i7-3770k
Sapphire VaporX 7970 Ghz edition
8gb of 2400mhz ram
2TB Barracuda
126GB SSD
P8 z77-v pro
H100 processor cooler (Very VERY loud)
and it still isn't optimised, it isn't the hardware fault if the software is faulty.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Julio. on January 11, 2014, 11:02:50 pm
Jaka, you sound like you're speaking out of your arse.

Compatibility on Windows 8 has been very good for me, since a lot of it is the same base as W7 and Vista, even a lot of drivers for the previous operating systems work.

Seems like you're doing something wrong.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Jaka_Lah on January 12, 2014, 06:56:22 pm
Jaka, you sound like you're speaking out of your arse.

Compatibility on Windows 8 has been very good for me, since a lot of it is the same base as W7 and Vista, even a lot of drivers for the previous operating systems work.

Seems like you're doing something wrong.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/CompatCenter/ProductDetailsViewer?Name=Steam&vendor=Valve&ModelOrVersion=1&Type=Software&tempOsid=Windows+8.1
community rating, uh?

Let's talk directx 9.0 (http://gyazo.com/30c886c3f836aaaf6b8a69ffcad3c78a.png)

Look I just pulled all of this out of my ass, do you like the smell?
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/864971765292928449/
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/810938810570146006/
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/810938082602977049/
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/810939351141741652/
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1906454/steam-start-windows.html
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=35039769
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=35181364

All the replies are wrong btw because the smartasses at Microsoft force you(me) to install .net framework 3.5, some times after an update steam stops working, why? because the update isn't yet compatible with Win 8.1

I don't care if it's good for YOU or anyone in this topic, the whole point of having an OS is that it works for every user, you think some grandma will be able to get this shit working? I feel like testing RS5 here.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on January 17, 2014, 09:21:39 pm
Windows 8 is being bashed on because it had balls to make a change. Seriously, weren't you tired of the same OS with different title each few years? Yes, they did indeed screw up with METRO UI, it really isn't suitable for a PC, though I really didnt find it that difficult ,everything new needs time to get used to. You can remove all the default stuff from the METRO UI and add all your shortcuts there and then group them to "GAMES", "PROGRAMS", "INTERNET", "IMPORTANT" and so on so you can access them even easier than via the regular start menu, and if you really hate metro so much, you can just right click on the taskbar, set "Boot straight to desktop" and install StartIsBack, which removes METRO UI and re-places it with a taskbar. Visually it might be a pain in the ass for SOME, but performance is much better. Certainly it wont run some programs that Windows 7 did, no further Windows ever will, because everything gets old. Games you could still play on Vista can no longer be played on Windows 7 so stop fooling yourself.

Oh and BTW, for these crying about Steam not working - STEAM works just as it did on win 7 for me on windows 8.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Jaka_Lah on January 17, 2014, 09:26:59 pm
I especially love the fact it doesn't recognise my Local D disc.. what a fail of an OS, I can't believe I went in open mindedly.. LOL this is the worst thing that Microsoft has done since windows vista
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Bruce. on January 17, 2014, 09:27:52 pm
Just don't upgrade to windows 8.1, windows 9 is coming on April :)

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on January 17, 2014, 09:40:15 pm
I especially love the fact it doesn't recognise my Local D disc.. what a fail of an OS, I can't believe I went in open mindedly.. LOL this is the worst thing that Microsoft has done since windows vista

You're obviously doing something wrong, I have been using Windows 8 for so long and I have not had the problems you have said NOT EVEN ONCE, dont fail the OS because of your own incompetence. You probably didnt even partitioned your HDD...
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Jaka_Lah on January 17, 2014, 10:09:09 pm
You're obviously doing something wrong, I have been using Windows 8 for so long and I have not had the problems you have said NOT EVEN ONCE, dont fail the OS because of your own incompetence. You probably didnt even partitioned your HDD...
Oh I see I need to partition my HDD.. sure, now why the hell would I want to partition something that my windows isn't.. you know what no, you are either trolling or being a total fanboy, I would like to tell you to go fuck yourself but than SugarD will beat me in the bumm, so have a nice day fanboy
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on January 18, 2014, 10:08:04 am
Oh I see I need to partition my HDD.. sure, now why the hell would I want to partition something that my windows isn't.. you know what no, you are either trolling or being a total fanboy, I would like to tell you to go f**k yourself but than SugarD will beat me in the bumm, so have a nice day fanboy

No, i'm not being a fanboy or trolling, you're the one who doesn't know how to use his computer, seriously, if you haven't even partitioned your HARD DISK and then complain about it not detecting your D:\ drive, you really should get a MAC or something, I don't know. If you haven't partitioned your HDD the only disk that your Windows will detect is C:\, smartass..

In any case, stop overusing that fanboy word, it really doesn't fit to this situation, you can be a fanboy of a game, not an operating system. I was enjoying Windows 7 just as much when 8 wasnt out yet, but when I tried 8, unlike some of you driven by only your principles, I accepted that Windows 8 is simply faster and better than 7.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: AK47 on January 18, 2014, 10:15:48 am
Been using W8 since launch and now using 8.1, never had issues with it.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: newguy on January 18, 2014, 11:58:00 am
Dude, my PC is a high-end gaming PC, by HDD clicking sounds It wasnt what I meant, I meant the hard disk light usually flashing a lot when running a program (indicating it's working a lot and a lot of resources are being eaten up). Windows 8.1 is same as Windows 7, you can get rid of the ugly start menu, seriously, i have removed every single default app that came with the thing, installed a "Back to Start menu" few megabytes mod and now i can enjoy a way faster expierence than Windows 7 ever had. And you can bull... us all you want that Windows 7 is running the same or faster than Windows 8, Windows 8 being less resource eating and faster on running programs, shuting down and turning on is proven. No matter how fast your PC is, it will be even faster in Windows 8. Here, take a look

(http://imageshack.com/a/img819/2152/9x2g.png)

AS you see, I dont need to use the default start menu at all, I've set my windows to boot straight to desktop which is a default option, so I'm using it just like I would use windows 7, the only difference - Windows 8.1 is a lot faster.

The picture shows nothing to prove it works faster.
"Back to start menu mod". Neat, other OS's don't need that.



Now you are shilling really hard.
Please stop.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: CharlieKasper on January 18, 2014, 01:09:10 pm
Just don't upgrade to windows 8.1, windows 9 is coming on April :)

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
You forgot to mention 2015.
It's not even confirmed by Microsoft. The threshold (which was previously rumoured to be Windows 8.2 by the way, so you never which OS update it exactly is) could simply be a deeper integration of Microsoft operating systems (Windows, RT, Phone and Xbox).

EDIT - http://www.wpcentral.com/threshold-windows-9-coming-april-2015
It's expected, not confirmed.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Radagast on January 18, 2014, 01:14:00 pm
Mine won't install the update, so I guess I'm stuck with 8.0. No clue why neither Windows update in desktop and Metro modes fail, and downloading the update from M$ website also fails.

Any ideas, let me know, but nothing on the M$ website about the same error has yet been able to solve it.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Gimli on January 18, 2014, 04:01:50 pm
I have been a use of Window 8 since it came out and I loved it, great OS and works really well with multiple monitors (I use up to 4 at work and making them work nicely without blue screens took lots of effort on Windows 7, upgrading to 8.1 immediately fixed it).

Although recently I switched to Mac OS X Mavericks, probably the best tech decision I've made in my life :) Incomparable to Windows 8, simply a perfect OS and amazing user experience.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Jaka_Lah on January 18, 2014, 04:23:20 pm
Although recently I switched to Mac OS X Mavericks, probably the best tech decision I've made in my life :) Incomparable to Windows 8, simply a perfect OS and amazing user experience.
I only had the chance to try this out for a couple of hours at my friends house and it is truly amazing.
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Teddy on January 27, 2014, 08:57:55 pm

You wanna talk about Fanboys; I've known Gimli for awhile and have never met someone so in-love with Apple. Hes the definition of an Apple fanboy. =))
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Miller786 on January 27, 2014, 09:05:46 pm
Do you even know what's inside the imac that apple sells?
The first and last imac i bought was containing a 3 years old video card...  :lol:
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Huntsman on February 02, 2014, 09:29:13 am
The picture shows nothing to prove it works faster.
"Back to start menu mod". Neat, other OS's don't need that.



Now you are shilling really hard.
Please stop.

Fine, I'll make a video for you
Title: Re: Reasons to upgrade your windows to Windows 8.1
Post by: Jaka_Lah on February 02, 2014, 12:07:37 pm
Do you even know what's inside the imac that apple sells?
The first and last imac i bought was containing a 3 years old video card...  :lol:
Newest imac released this year has a 780m which was released May 30, 2013
Yes I know, you know why? because I research shit before commenting.

Do research before spouting bullshit.
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