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Hello
What do you say about what's happening in gaza ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K72Z-XGy5mw
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This have to stop...
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Don't start this again.. it's an endless discussion. You believe your country is doing the right thing and so does Israel.
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This is total bs.Attacking little kids and all and whats the point of this?
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Both parties fire missiles in civilian areas. Both film it to use as propaganda. Both parties are wrong.
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The rest of the world should send in troops if they continue with this shit. Fight for the human rights.
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You believe your country is doing the right thing and so does Israel.
Nope, you are wrong there, Israel is the only country that is actually doing these "things".
The rest of the world should send in troops if they continue with this shit. Fight for the human rights.
Yeah one country tried to do that in 1938.
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Nope, you are wrong there, Israel is the only country that is actually doing these "things".
Yeah you're absolutely right. Hamas and Jihad are peaceful people and they hate violence, they would never harm anyone.
Oh wait
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMQ5MHqURno
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Nope, you are wrong there, Israel is the only country that is actually doing these "things".
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTAaK_02L-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuL-OA84p54
Look at them 'innocent' civilians;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu54aSM6QOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMO-_qEpgg0
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Yeah you're absolutely right. Hamas and Jihad are peaceful people and they hate violence, they would never harm anyone.
Oh wait
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMQ5MHqURno
Definitely less peaceful than Jews, right?
You should check how many Palestinians died and how many Israelis died. Then you tell me who's aggressive and who's not.
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This is ridiculous. The thing is, yes both parties fire at each other. BUT let's take a look at the amount of people dead.
The israeli army have killed over 1650 gazans (around 400 under the age of 12), while hamas has killed 63 israelian soldiers and 3 civilians. If you do not see something wrong here then I don't know what to say.
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Definitely less peaceful than Jews, right?
You should check how many Palestinians died and how many Israelis died. Then you tell me who's aggressive and who's not.
This is ridiculous. The thing is, yes both parties fire at each other. BUT let's take a look at the amount of people dead.
The israeli army have killed over 1650 gazans (around 400 under the age of 12), while hamas has killed 63 israelian soldiers and 3 civilians. If you do not see something wrong here then I don't know what to say.
reason for that is that we use our missles(iron dome) to protect our citizens, while hamas use thier citizens to protect thier missles. enuf said boys. go watch my video if u gonna claim this stupid argument again 'israel kill too much people'.
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yeah let's look at statistics to see who's wrong or right. Sure thing sir. Statistics.
http://www.vox.com/2014/7/30/5937119/palestinian-civilian-casualties-gaza-israel
Maybe if you wouldn't place civilians in the line of fire, or place missile installations around schools, you wouldn't have this problem.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1896947_827637227259149_1678884864368995200_n.jpg?oh=026da646b42a54740869c7e54610727b&oe=5434DCA3&__gda__=1413874590_6720569750a32113d3b36b809f4012a0)
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jidf strikes again
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I actually don't get the point of all this destruction.Killing civilians,destroying houses and families.Just useless fights
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Just look at the bottom left corner. That's right: Israeli Defence Forces. Do you think that in a war where there's politics involved, people would not lie? All the investigators who visited gaza reported no proof or evidence of hamas storing rockets in civilian buildings. Most of the hamas members are sitting behind bars anyway.
You guys know that the Israelian military has one of the world's most powerful weapons. Look at hamas, they need outside assistance and still aren't even close to the military power of Israel. Their rockets compared to Israel's ones are nothing.
EDIT: I wanted to add to my first point that hamas shoots their rockets from secret areas which nobody knows where they are. They are probably in some hole somewhere isolated. But there is absolutely no real proof or evidence of them storing or shooting missiles from civilian buildings. This is a huge LIE.
Also. Seriously, look at hamas's rockets: they TRY to hit SOME place in Israel. They do not have a specific point because their missiles are not developed enough for that. Now look at Israel's missiles. :/ Do I need to say more?
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I just want to make this clear before it all starts again
If I see anyone provoking another person in this topic, I will give you a 100 percent forum warning.
So watch it and keep it peaceful.
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I actually don't get the point of all this destruction.Killing civilians,destroying houses and families.Just useless fights
Certain people's interests = Innocent fight 'n' die over those interests.
Mankind is probably made for suffering. :'(
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And what do you say about this?
http://countercurrentnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Untitled-27.png
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1 individual that is angry. Congratulations.
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I still cannot understand how the Israeli soldiers can do this. Don't they have a heart? Are they fed drugs to do this? No normal human can actually kill a child. Videos show 2 year olds without limbs, brains hanging. And this is not the only case. There are hundreds of these cases. I just cannot understand this, I'm almost crying while typing this.
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I still cannot understand how the Israeli soldiers can do this. Don't they have a heart? Are they fed drugs to do this? No normal human can actually kill a child.
exactly....
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(https://i.imgur.com/PAfSRdH.jpg)
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Maybe if you wouldn't place civilians in the line of fire, or place missile installations around schools, you wouldn't have this problem.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1896947_827637227259149_1678884864368995200_n.jpg?oh=026da646b42a54740869c7e54610727b&oe=5434DCA3&__gda__=1413874590_6720569750a32113d3b36b809f4012a0)
Maybe you should take a look at the IDF's Facebook page, it's packed with 100% accurate information on Hamas. https://www.facebook.com/idfonline?fref=ts
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reason for that is that we use our missles(iron dome) to protect our citizens, while hamas use thier citizens to protect thier missles. enuf said boys. go watch my video if u gonna claim this stupid argument again 'israel kill too much people'.
Yeah you protect the shit out of your citizens by bombing houses and after that you say that there were terrorists in these houses, wow let's hear it for glorious Israel! :app: :app: :app:
And the human shield you are talking about is kid hiding behind his older brother before they both get killed.
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It's very hard to convict a person, We can't say one is wrong and the other isn't, But in a case like this, It's very clear who is wrong.
I'm from Algeria and I'm muslim, Ofcourse I will support Palastine not only because it's my country, But what is going with them is not a war, It's simply genocide.
(http://images.outbrain.com/imageserver/v2/s/KMCm/n/qLCsX/abc/jbOv4/qLCsX-dZO-152x110.jpg)
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Yeah you protect the shit out of your citizens by bombing houses and after that you say that there were terrorists in these houses, wow let's hear it for glorious Israel! :app: :app: :app:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTAaK_02L-A
What has Hamas done to prevent civilian casualties?
Maybe you should take a look at the IDF's Facebook page, it's packed with 100% accurate information on Hamas. https://www.facebook.com/idfonline?fref=ts
Already follow that page :D
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Ye, evacuate an entire neighborhood in 5min.... Very possible
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Awesome video
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What has Hamas done to prevent civilian casualties?
Nothing, because they don't aim for civilians.
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Ye, evacuate an entire neighborhood in 5min.... Very possible
3-4 houses can be cleared within 2 minutes.
And you're right Peetar, they don't aim for civilians. They don't aim for anything at all. They just shoot into cities, hoping to hit something.
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Nothing, because they don't aim for civilians.
LOL
best joke of the year
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Nothing, because they don't aim for civilians.
so you're telling me... if they'll reach a kibbutz (through the tunnels), they'll do nothing?
What are they doing? :uhm:
http://youtu.be/BUKAQWX7M4o
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Jimmy or Orel, who are you?
LOL
best joke of the year
nice
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And you're right Peetar, they don't aim for civilians. They don't aim for anything at all. They just shoot into cities, hoping to hit something.
EXACTLY. Why?
The answer has been stated.
Also. Seriously, look at hamas's rockets: they TRY to hit SOME place in Israel. They do not have a specific target because their missiles are not developed enough for that. Now look at Israel's missiles. :/ Do I need to say more?
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LOL
best joke of the year
NOPE this is the best ! Look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lss-k9Hmf6g
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Gotta vomit when I hear the country that begins with an I
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Think as a human. It could be done with any of us, how we would have suffered? I can't even imagine that scene. Instead of arguing, just as a human, reply with a positive comment, "God may bless them."
It's all clear, who is attacking and who is getting killed.
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Think as a human. "God may bless them."
No, just no.
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so basically u muslim haters take pictures of an IDF soldier holding a guy powerfully after the arab guy assaulted the f**k out of him and threw rocks at him, and then u say oh look idf abuzz innocent ppl?
imma just gonna wait for the moment those "innocent people" will move over for europe, i wanna see how u guys will re-act
Provocative comments removed
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Gotta vomit when I hear the country that begins with an I
Iceland / India / Indonesia / Iran / Iraq / Ireland / Italy / Ivory Coast.
Come on. This is insult for these countries above too. So please dude , those eight countries have done nothing
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Anyway , the thing is - People are mad just because Israel has a very advanced military , so their defences hits much of rockets ,so much less israeli people killed. So also troops of israel are way more professional , so doesnt get killed so much.
But Hamas is not such advanced , but has high seeks.
Thats why they has to do the "Human Shield" thingie. Just after they starts actions , and gets a rocket back , then facebook gets flooded with injured children pictures with beautiful words , so this way , they are earning the worlds "OMG" and "Poor Gaza".
This war is a huge example for future wars , how good propaganda trought social networks is effective. Just dare to write something against , and you are flooded with comments, how you are such a cruel human. So this way , a person starts to rethinking , and chooses the Gaza is the Right version. This way , they earns one more person to spread "Destroy Israel" words.
Israel has to defend its country and its people. They just cant wait for a rocket and dance of happiness. They HAS to defend their country , and its not all just women and children killed. So where are attacks from Gaza coming from?
I guess it must not be a woman with her 5 year old kid next to her , shooting rockets into cities of Israel , aint it?
Or those Gaza militants must be such chameleons , because just after Israel comes , they just hits women and children. Wondering , this must be a magnet attached to them , or something? This is not possible. This is a full scale propaganda , in which people starts to believe.
Both sides killed people , and also women and children. There is just "omg IDF is so bad omgomgomg" , but nobody remembers how does the Gaza attacks then , if only IDF does the actions.
There are no holy in the war , so please , remember this.
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Anyway , the thing is - People are mad just because Israel has a very advanced military , so their defences hits much of rockets ,so much less israeli people killed. So also troops of israel are way more professional , so doesnt get killed so much.
But Hamas is not such advanced , but has high seeks.
Thats why they has to do the "Human Shield" thingie. Just after they starts actions , and gets a rocket back , then facebook gets flooded with injured children pictures with beautiful words , so this way , they are earning the worlds "OMG" and "Poor Gaza".
Israel has to defend its country and its people. They just cant wait for a rocket and dance of happiness. They HAS to defend their country , and its not all just women and children killed. So where are attacks from Gaza coming from?
Or those Gaza militants must be such chameleons , because just after Israel comes , they just hits women and children. Wondering , this must be a magnet attached to them , or something? This is not possible. This is a full scale propaganda , in which people starts to believe.
Please. I explained this already. This human shield thing is a straight up lie.
Do you think that the IDF knows where hamas shoots its rockets from? They don't. They use the media to make people think that "oh hamas is retarded, they put civilians in the way". I already said that this is a political war too. Enemies will lie about each other.
NOBODY knows where hamas shoots its rockets from. It is from some secret ISOLATED place far from civilians.
Oh and Israel protecting its people? Bull. Hamas has killed 3 civilins. THREE. The rest of the killed Israelis (around 60) were soldiers. A few Hamas soldiers actually went through a tunnel to the border of Gaza and Israel (the border is heavily guarded by Israeli soldiers) and killed around 10 soldiers and went back. They did not go on to kill civilians. And how did Israel respond? Well, they killed another 100+ CIVILIANS for their 10 soldiers. Crazy right?
I want to stress one thing again. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF HAMAS USING HUMAN SHIELDS, THAT IS A STRAIGHT UP LIE.
It's all clear, who is attacking and who is getting killed.
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Please. I explained this already. This human shield thing is a straight up lie.
Do you think that the IDF knows where hamas shoots its rockets from? They don't. They use the media to make people think that "oh hamas is retarded, they put civilians in the way". I already said that this is a political war too. Enemies will lie about each other.
NOBODY knows where hamas shoots its rockets from. It is from some secret ISOLATED place far from civilians.
Oh and Israel protecting its people? Bull. Hamas has killed 3 civilins. THREE. The rest of the killed Israelis (around 60) were soldiers. A few Hamas soldiers actually went through a tunnel to the border of Gaza and Israel (the border is heavily guarded by Israeli soldiers) and killed around 10 soldiers and went back. They did not go on to kill civilians. And how did Israel respond? Well, they killed another 100+ CIVILIANS for their 10 soldiers. Crazy right?
I want to stress one thing again. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF HAMAS USING HUMAN SHIELDS, THAT IS A STRAIGHT UP LIE.
Also same no evidence , IDF goes murdering random children.
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The world sees what they want to see.
Hamas beats their civilians so they will stand in the line of fire and be used as a human shield, and then they die.
So the world wants to see that ISRAEL kills them, and then they say that Hamas protects Gaza and that Israelis are terrorists.
But regardless, it shouldn't be done that way and is horrible.
(http://s15.postimg.org/fzat934m3/10467145_817344438288428_2281190717134557554_o.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ6S0-o3uFI
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Also same no evidence , IDF goes murdering random children.
Don't make me laugh. No evidence of the IDF murdering random civilians? Oh really? How many UN shelters filled with families and children have they bombed down using tanks? Every day tens if not hundreds die because of IDF.
All you have to do is take a look at any hospital which treats the injured. Not only the Gazan hospital, even in Kuwait there is injured people. IN KUWAIT. Because they cannot be treated in gaza they have to travel hundreds of kilometers!!
You really don't want me to show you a video of a two year old without a head. Or a five year old with his brains out of his head. Or a just born baby with her ribs shooting out of her chest.
No evidence? Even the Israeli politicians admit they kill civilians "to protect Israel". (I wonder how killing civilians protects Israel)
So please, there is more than enough evidence to show that Israel kills children and innocent civilians.
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Don't make me laugh. No evidence of the IDF murdering random civilians? Oh really? How many UN shelters filled with families and children have they bombed down using tanks? Every day tens if not hundreds die because of IDF.
All you have to do is take a look at any hospital which treats the injured. Not only the Gazan hospital, even in Kuwait there is injured people. IN KUWAIT. Because they cannot be treated in gaza they have to travel hundreds of kilometers!!
You really don't want me to show you a video of a two year old without a head. Or a five year old with his brains out of his head. Or a just born baby with her ribs shooting out of her chest.
No evidence? Even the Israeli politicians admit they kill civilians "to protect Israel". (I wonder how killing civilians protects Israel)
So please, there is more than enough evidence to show that Israel kills children and innocent civilians.
Some of those citizens are militants. There aint written "I am a militant" on their heads. So they are all civilians.
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The rest of the world should send in troops if they continue with this shit. Fight for the human rights.
Yeah well normally US would but you see Isreal is US's comrade-in-international-terrorism so Israel is free to do whatever it wants.
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Some of those citizens are militants. There aint written "I am a militant" on their heads. So they are all civilians.
Cool. Children are militants. Women are militants. Men selling vegetables on the streets are militants. Yeah, cool. Come on now. None of the civilians have weapons. The only people who have weapons and are protecting palestine = hamas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VddeufIB7M
Nope. Hamas is not storing rockets in civilian buildings. Watch the above video.
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Cool. Children are militants. Women are militants. Men selling vegetables on the streets are militants. Yeah, cool. Come on now. None of the civilians have weapons. The only people who have weapons and are protecting palestine = hamas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VddeufIB7M
Nope. Hamas is not storing rockets in civilian buildings. Watch the above video.
Its a video of hamas leader. He cant say it(even if they actually are holding rockets there).
I did not said , that everyone are attacking. I am saying , that it all cannot come out of some nowhere. It is from somewhere. They just cant hold them in fresh air , because if IDF sees it , its all gone. So you must sneak for an attack.
The thing , Hamas may not always represent citizen wishes or something , its like Nazis in german elections , they just was a political party , like every else ,was calm. And what happened?
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The world is blind.
Those children who I'm sorry for, are forced to be used as human shields.
Then, Hamas and Gaza can moan that Israel kills innocent people and post pictures of dead people, that are mostly from the Civil War in Syria.
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Anyway , all the world is about Gaza. What about Ukraine? Schools burned , houses being shelled/bombed/burned , and absolutely no food/water in a huge city. (Luhansk)
Nobody cares about them just because there aint hundreds of millions of ukrainians , like it is arabic people.
None , because Ukraine doesnt have a bone-breaking-power army , with which they could storm the militant regions in hours.
We should also look back at whats going on in our Europe too.(this is for Europeans)
Just because its so far away from west europe, doesnt mean , people dont live here too.
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Its a video of hamas leader. He cant say it(even if they actually are holding rockets there).
I did not said , that everyone are attacking. I am saying , that it all cannot come out of some nowhere. It is from somewhere. They just cant hold them in fresh air , because if IDF sees it , its all gone. So you must sneak for an attack.
The thing , Hamas may not always represent citizen wishes or something , its like Nazis in german elections , they just was a political party , like every else ,was calm. And what happened?
You really can't compare hamas with the nazis. But you can compare IDF with nazis. Hamas aren't killing hundreds every day. It is Gaza which is being bombarded every damn day.
The hamas leader said it himself. The peace treaty would require to fulfill the Gazan people's wishes. He said that the UN or USA can go ask the Gazan people what they want and hamas would accept 100% what they answer.
And I already said that they shoot their small rockets from secret areas or possibly pits in the ground. They store their rockets underground as the leader said. The IDF cannot access the hamas' weapons and that's why they pretend they are in civilian buildings.
The world is blind.
Those children who I'm sorry for, are forced to be used as human shields.
Then, Hamas and Gaza can moan that Israel kills innocent people and post pictures of dead people, that are mostly from the Civil War in Syria.
Read my posts and understand that the IDF facebook page is not a reliable source on issues regarding hamas or palestine. This is a political war sir.
Anyway , all the world is about Gaza. What about Ukraine? Schools burned , houses being shelled/bombed/burned , and absolutely no food/water in a huge city. (Luhansk)
Nobody cares about them just because there aint hundreds of millions of ukrainians , like it is arabic people.
None , because Ukraine doesnt have a bone-breaking-power army , with which they could storm the militant regions in hours.
We should also look back at whats going on in our Europe too.(this is for Europeans)
Just because its so far away from west europe, doesnt mean , people dont live here too.
The topic is not about ukraine.
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The topic is not about ukraine.
Correct, it's about Gaza. The subject has had several topic and they all ended up in closure because when either of the two parties ran out of arguments, they start insulting one-other. There is no point in re-opening the topic as you're trying to convince someone that you're right.
This is an endless discussion. Just like the war will probably never end as both parties are stubborn as hell. UN should interfere and solve the matter once and for all.
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The topic is not about ukraine.
I do know it. I said an example. Nobody actually gives a <censored> about Ukraine , compared to Gaza.
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Correct, it's about Gaza. The subject has had several topic and they all ended up in closure because when either of the two parties ran out of arguments, they start insulting one-other. There is no point in re-opening the topic as you're trying to convince someone that you're right.
This is an endless discussion. Just like the war will probably never end as both parties are stubborn as hell. UN should interfere and solve the matter once and for all.
True. This IS an endless discussion. Both parties try to defend their own side. But the peace treaty can't be made because Palestine's demands do not suit Israel's ones and vice versa. :balance:
The UN can't do much... well they could probably step in but I don't think it would solve problems completely. They're scared as hell anyway. Don't even start about USA. All they want is money and glory, they won't do shit about this situation and they're on Israel's side anyway. If they can't solve it themselves they need someone who won't take sides to intervene.
It's sad to see that even the Arab world is not intervening with this :/ They are too damn scared.
(http://www.indymedia.org.uk/images/2001/12/218702.gif)
Tell me if the pic insults someone in some way and I will remove it. I have no intentions of insulting anyone. I posted it because a picture tells more than 1000 words.
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(http://www.jr.co.il/humorpic/pc0257.jpg)
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I sense ignorance. If you would just read my earlier posts to understand that is not true :P
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Spot on!
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I sense ignorance. If you would just read my earlier posts to understand that is not true :P
You just post a pic of yours ,and dont let others to post pictures of their opinion. So if its that way , it looks like you want to get rid of people , thinking otherwise.
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You just post a pic of yours ,and dont let others to post pictures of their opinion. So if its that way , it looks like you want to get rid of people , thinking otherwise.
I didn't say that he shouldn't have posted the picture. I simply responded to the picture. I said he should take a look at my earlier posts. Because I have already said multiple times why the human shield thing is not true. Seems like people don't want to understand that it is not true.
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I didn't say that he shouldn't have posted the picture. I simply responded to the picture. I said he should take a look at my earlier posts. Because I have already said multiple times why the human shield thing is not true. Seems like people don't want to understand that it is not true.
Both sides have their propaganda and both sides believe that it's true.
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Some investigator said that "There are 2 gazas, one on ground and one under". Hamas has built very sophisticated underground tunnels to the borders and to isolated areas. The tunnels have radio transmission, electricity, concrete walls, subtunnels, rooms, the tunnels are very developed. Even the Israeli army knows about these tunnels and are of course trying to eliminate them.
The tunnels are where the weapons are stored. The IDF finds it very hard to find these tunnels and because of this it tells others that Hamas stores them in civilian buildings.
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Explain me why would Israel want to kill innocent children and women, so the world would be frustrated?
Please, your claims don't make sense.
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Explain me why would Israel want to kill innocent children and women, so the world would be frustrated?
Please, your claims don't make sense.
That is what I have been asking you here! Why is the IDF killing innocents??
You tell me, I don't know. That is why IDF is the bad guy here. One option why they do it might be that they want to get rid of all the people and claim it as their own (palestinian territory). Another might be that they wanna show the world that they are powerful (like putin :lol:). I seriously don't know.
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looks very close to houses:
http://youtu.be/9FtKU6f6ogA
looks very close to children:
http://youtu.be/Yu54aSM6QOE
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Those clips aren't even hamas. It's either of some other organization or Syria. If you want I can post tons of videos about IDF or bombings in palestine for you too.
Mmmmm I'm sure you like to look at brains hanging from babies' heads and all that.
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That is what I have been asking you here! Why is the IDF killing innocents??
You tell me, I don't know. That is why IDF is the bad guy here. One option why they do it might be that they want to get rid of all the people and claim it as their own (palestinian territory). Another might be that they wanna show the world that they are powerful (like putin :lol:). I seriously don't know.
Do you realize how stupid it sounds?
Israel DOES NOT want to kill innocent children and women, stop being ridicules.
Killing children won't bring peace or destroy Hamas.
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Do you realize how stupid it sounds?
Israel DOES NOT want to kill innocent children and women, stop being ridicules.
Killing children won't bring peace or destroy Hamas.
All you need to do is check the soldier's facebook pages (since FB is a good source). Most of them are proud to kill civilians.
And this has been discussed many times. An Israeli politician said it himself. He said that if they do not agree on peace this will continue until Gaza is wiped out. :/
One more thing. Do you realize how small gaza is? And how many people there are considering how small it is? It is like 4 times smaller than berlin! One powerful bomb can destroy the entire place. Now that can also be one reason for the casualties. And yeah, to avoid that they should arrange combats somewhere (like wars were fought earlier). Not freaking drop nuclear bombs on an area that small "trying to avoid" civilians who are supposed to evacuate in 5 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oDxVsIUJXQ
Keep in mind that those are one of the smallest bombs Israel has.
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Again, the world sees what it wants to see.
I love how people around the world think they are experts and know who's right and who's wrong.
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One more thing. Do you realize how small gaza is? And how many people there are considering how small it is? It is like 4 times smaller than berlin! One powerful bomb can destroy the entire place and its people.
Again, the world sees what it wants to see.
I love how people around the world think they are experts and know who's right and who's wrong.
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About that comic you had. You know why that is? Because if hamas launches rockets, it kills soldiers. Not civilians. Now when Israel does it it kills MANY civilians. Just a look at the numbers shows everything: Israels loss: 63 soldiers, 3 civilians. Gaza's loss: 1650+ civilians from which over 500 are children under 15.
As somebody said earlier. It is clear who is attacking and who is getting massacred. This converstaion has been gone through many times.
I hope this war will end soon. May god bless the dead innocents and children dieing every day. I hope some country or organization will stand up for Gaza. Palestine is no match for Israel at the moment, the casualties prove it. Gaza is a prison at the moment, something needs to be done. Israel has freaking USA behind it. And the west and the arab states and the UN are just spectating all scared. This needs to stop.
I am pulling away from this convo before someone starts going insultive again. #freepalestine
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About that comic you had. You know why that is? Because if hamas launches rockets, it kills soldiers. Not civilians. Now when Israel does it it kills MANY civilians. Just a look at the numbers shows everything: Israels loss: 63 soldiers, 3 civilians. Gaza's loss: 1650+ civilians from which over 500 are children under 15.
As somebody said earlier. It is clear who is attacking and who is getting massacred. This converstaion has been gone through many times.
I hope this war will end soon. May god bless the dead innocents and children dieing every day. I hope some country or organization will stand up for Gaza. Palestine is no match for Israel at the moment, the casualties prove it. Gaza is a prison at the moment, something needs to be done. Israel has freaking USA behind it. And the west and the arab states and the UN are just spectating all scared. This needs to stop.
I am pulling away from this convo before someone starts going insultive again. #freepalestine
Citizens of israel doesnt get killed , because a good warning systems (sirens) and rocket intercepting (Iron Dome).
In Gaza part , there are no such things ,so people dont even know , if a rocket comes to their place.
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Citizens of israel doesnt get killed , because a good warning systems (sirens) and rocket intercepting (Iron Dome).
In Gaza part , there are no such things ,so people dont even know , if a rocket comes to their place.
Just proves why Gaza should be free'd. Israel claims Gaza their territory, yet they don't provide it sophisticated anti-rocket systems to prevent civilian losses. Idiotic.
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About that comic you had. You know why that is? Because if hamas launches rockets, it kills soldiers. Not civilians.
LOL WHAT?!?!
WHAT?!?
Rockets almost hit my house, I'm not a soldier!
There are many people who get hurt by rockets, 2 girls died earlier (1-2 weeks ago) because of a rocket.
So stop making things up.
Total fatalities in the history of rocket and mortar attacks from Gaza into Israel: 40
Civilians: 27 (including 2 killed at military posts)
Soldiers: 13
Hamas appears to be at best indifferent to the fact that, by firing rockets from heavily civilian areas,
it knowingly invites or even desires Israeli strikes that will kill civilians.
(Hamas is frequently accused of using civilians as human shields for this reason).
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10352946_809799112376294_7142303326853387450_n.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yvQz3SQxGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O9AHzUKYk8
You are from Algeria, TELL ME if the trasnlation in the second video isn't correct.
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Just proves why Gaza should be free'd. Israel claims Gaza their territory, yet they don't provide it sophisticated anti-rocket systems to prevent civilian losses. Idiotic.
You just cant take it there. If it was so peaceful to construct Iron Domes in the area , it would be no reason to have war.
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GAZA is need our help arabs or not
we all have to help gaza
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The IDF propaganda is starting to get annoying...
If the IDF is taking so many measures to prevent civilian deaths, why is it that over 1600 civilians have died as a result of operation protective edge?
Also not to mention the fact that UN schools have been bombed by the IDF, of which they have the exact co-ordinates for.
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I just want to make this clear before it all starts again
If I see anyone provoking another person in this topic, I will give you a 100 percent forum warning.
So watch it and keep it peaceful.
I'll just quote this one more time
On another note - stop repeating what you said if you do not have valid evidence to prove what you said. I can see a lot of you guys keep saying the same, yet you are not providing evidence of the case, things you see on the internet are rarely true. Even if you find it on Wikipedia, or as many think, Google.
Remember, actions speak a thousand words, and both parties in this situation are making these actions, both parties are wrong. Keep the discussion civilized, and if someone makes a mistake, don't go mad at them, but try to explain it to them in a nice and civilized way.
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And why are there more killed Palestinians than Israelis?
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And why are there more killed Palestinians than Israelis?
Because Israel has an Iron Dome and the citizens of Israel aren't forced to be used as human shields.
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Alright... let's see...
Phone calls: How would they know who to send them to? How would they know who lives where? They just text the entire country? Even then, doesn't make shit any better. They're just telling them "Oh, we're going to kill you now." Useless.
Leaflets: I'd like to know how much time they give them... last I checked, people who try to escape end up being killed anyway. So that's useless as well.
Aborting airstrikes: That would be believable if there weren't so many civilians in hospitals or 6 feet in the ground, yeah?
Roof knocking: "giving them time to leave the site"... towards another site where they get shot/bombed anyway. Also useless.
Pinpoint strikes: "minimizing harm to bystanders".. woop-de-doo, bystanders are harmed. Useless.
LOL WHAT?!?!
WHAT?!?
Rockets almost hit my house, I'm not a soldier!
There are many people who get hurt by rockets, 2 girls died earlier (1-2 weeks ago) because of a rocket.
So stop making things up.
I'd like proof.
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the fact is nobody gives a flying f**k about what muslim people in a gaming community think, so keep it up haterZ u will get fAR. :jackson:
Oh shit, you said that? It hurts me so bad..... The fuck cares about someone like yourself.
I mean how can anyone even take you seriously with your constant bullshit? Have you seen how this guy types:
oh look idf abuzz innocent ppl?
lolol niggas yall gonna be hatin
imma just gonna wait for the moment those "innocent people" will move over for europe, i wanna see how u guys will re-act
This guy has obviously proved that he cannot maintain a serious discussion, thus he talks lyke-ah-fo'-yee-old.
Please.... Let me put this in a way you'll understand: Wii gifz no flyeng fuq bout u kay kay?
Thank you so much. Come back when you can discuss/type like a normal human being, damn.
On Topic:
Israel-Gaza conflict: Ban ki-Moon declares Israeli attack on UN school ‘a criminal act’ (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-ban-kimoon-declares-israeli-attack-on-un-school-a-criminal-act-9645278.html)
I'm guessing Ban Ki-Moon is also blind and is not aware of what's actually happening there right? Lol....
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On Topic:
Israel-Gaza conflict: Ban ki-Moon declares Israeli attack on UN school ‘a criminal act’ (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-ban-kimoon-declares-israeli-attack-on-un-school-a-criminal-act-9645278.html)
I'm guessing Ban Ki-Moon is also blind and is not aware of what's actually happening there right? Lol....
Yeah, it always has been like that sadly. Let's hope something will stop all this mess or it will never be over...
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Because Israel has an Iron Dome and the citizens of Israel aren't forced to be used as human shields.
"Shit! There's a huge rocket coming towards us, quick, grab our son and place him as a hat so we don't die!"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-3qJed5Wl0
yeah.. no human shields.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-3qJed5Wl0
yeah.. no human shields.
Hey Patrick, we will destroy your home, your city, leave you without food or anything you desperately need, how does that sound?
-Glorious peaceful Israel
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jimmy man stop spending ur time on those retards lol, let them be why do u even try, u already gave them proofs and they keep crying and returning to same subject 'israel kill ppl' - so only thing i will wish u all is that a group like hamas will grow up in europe, we will see how peacefull they are.
nobody gives a shit about some little muslim, haters on argo rpg, so dont even spend ur time on em
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nobody gives a shit about some little muslim, haters on argo rpg, so dont even spend ur time on em
Come on man. This is supposed to be a peaceful debate. Debates are not supposed to change the other's mind. Respect man :/ I'm pretty sure we muslims on argo never killed a man :uhm:
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Alot of arabs here in Sweden that should go back to Palestine
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Okay someone should really lock this topic.
Sad to see people can't hold an educated debate. And no, racism or insulting is not an educated debate.
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Come on man. This is supposed to be a peaceful debate. Debates are not supposed to change the other's mind. Respect man :/ I'm pretty sure we muslims on argo never killed a man :uhm:
Not just Argonath, if a guy calls him/her a self a muslim and he kills somebody, he is not a Muslim.
Peace.
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Not just Argonath, if a guy calls him/her a self a muslim and he kills somebody, he is not a Muslim.
Peace.
Indeed.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=TydoLmhMaDo
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=TydoLmhMaDo
It's funny how in the video the woman asks: "Why are you shooting from the gaza strip?"
wtf where should they shoot from if not gaza xD Jordania? I still claim that they shoot from the pits that they have built alongside the tunnels.
As the man said when Israel bombed the buildings, no rockets were destroyed nor were hamas soldiers killed.
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The UN can't do much... well they could probably step in but I don't think it would solve problems completely. They're scared as hell anyway. Don't even start about USA. All they want is money and glory, they won't do shit about this situation and they're on Israel's side anyway. If they can't solve it themselves they need someone who won't take sides to intervene.
The U.N can't do much because neither side can understand what the f**k a cease fire means. Both agree to a cease fire and one ends up shooting anyways. I find it funny you complain the U.S doesn't wanna do anything because it doesn't benefit us finically, yet, every other time we've intervened in an international dispute we got no monetary gain, only loss, and people complained the U.S always steps in.
This is exactly the points I've made before; if the U.S intervenes people complain about them getting involved in everything; if the U.S stands idle-by people complain they don't care about international relations and shit. But this topic has nothing to do with America, so let's stay on topic.
The only way this will get resolved is if both leaders agree and uphold a cease fire agreement, sit down, in person and talk shit out. Both sides are guilty of killing innocents, it happens, it's war.. every country that has been too war knows the cost of war. I'm not saying it's right, cause it's not, it's wrong. Innocent civilians on either side do not ever deserve to be a causality of situations entirely out of their control.
I hope both sides wake up and realize the senseless fighting will never end unless serious discussion take place on unforced grounds. This means they shouldn't be forced into talks by anyone else; since that leads to even more disagreements which will cause more bloodshed.
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The only way this will get resolved is if both leaders agree and uphold a cease fire agreement, sit down, in person and talk shit out. Both sides are guilty of killing innocents, it happens, it's war.. every country that has been too war knows the cost of war. I'm not saying it's right, cause it's not, it's wrong. Innocent civilians on either side do not ever deserve to be a causality of situations entirely out of their control.
I hope both sides wake up and realize the senseless fighting will never end unless serious discussion take place on unforced grounds. This means they shouldn't be forced into talks by anyone else; since that leads to even more disagreements which will cause more bloodshed.
+1
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I find it funny you complain the U.S doesn't wanna do anything because it doesn't benefit us finically, yet, every other time we've intervened in an international dispute we got no monetary gain, only loss, and people complained the U.S always steps in.
U.S benefits by not doing anything about this conflict.
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"Shit! There's a huge rocket coming towards us, quick, grab our son and place him as a hat so we don't die!"
Sad and sick, isn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ6S0-o3uFI
Alright... let's see...
Phone calls: How would they know who to send them to? How would they know who lives where? They just text the entire country? Even then, doesn't make shit any better. They're just telling them "Oh, we're going to kill you now." Useless.
Israel's Intelligence is very advanced.
Leaflets: I'd like to know how much time they give them... last I checked, people who try to escape end up being killed anyway. So that's useless as well.
Aborting airstrikes: That would be believable if there weren't so many civilians in hospitals or 6 feet in the ground, yeah?
Roof knocking: "giving them time to leave the site"... towards another site where they get shot/bombed anyway. Also useless.
Pinpoint strikes: "minimizing harm to bystanders".. woop-de-doo, bystanders are harmed. Useless.
I'm sure you both didn't take some time to watch the two videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yvQz3SQxGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O9AHzUKYk8
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U.S benefits by not doing anything about this conflict.
The U.S benefited before by not getting involved in the middle-east; for example when Saddam Hussein originally took control of the oil in various places... he offered U.S oil at $10 a barrel.... it would've been strongly beneficial then to just look the other way, did we? No, we pay roughly $105 now.
It has nothing to do with benefits/costs, the U.S does have it's feet wet in this as well as the state department has urged multiple times for both sides to reach a seize fire; but as I said the leaders need to be on the same page and not forced by anyone else.
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I will give this topic one more chance, if I see one more provocation, doesn't matter from what side, this topic will be locked and the subject will be banned for discussion on the forums.
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Sad and sick, isn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ6S0-o3uFII'm sure you both didn't take some time to watch the two videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yvQz3SQxGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O9AHzUKYk8
You answered to just ONE of my five remarks and you gave me something I can't even work with. Advanced intelligence implies advancement in technology and they wouldn't even need to knock roofs and abort strikes if their Intel is so sound and free of doubt. Face it man, you don't know jack-shit about Israeli Intel.
I'm supposed to watch which videos? The ones recorded by IDF? Mate I don't even watch Palestinian media because no matter what side you're on, there's always bias in the media. All I know is Palestinian children/women are dying and Israelis don't give a rat's ass.
Need I remind you of what Ayelet Shithead (possible misspelling of the last name; need confirmation) said? http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/16/371556/israel-must-kill-all-palestinian-mothers/
Is that the peace-seeking Israel you're trying to show us? If so, you've failed miserably.
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You answered to just ONE of my five remarks and you gave me something I can't even work with. Advanced intelligence implies advancement in technology and they wouldn't even need to knock roofs and abort strikes if their Intel is so sound and free of doubt. Face it man, you don't know jack-shit about Israeli Intel.
I'm supposed to watch which videos? The ones recorded by IDF? Mate I don't even watch Palestinian media because no matter what side you're on, there's always bias in the media. All I know is Palestinian children/women are dying and Israelis don't give a rat's ass.
Need I remind you of what Ayelet Shithead (possible misspelling of the last name; need confirmation) said? http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/16/371556/israel-must-kill-all-palestinian-mothers/
Is that the peace-seeking Israel you're trying to show us? If so, you've failed miserably.
Ser, you are a superstar. Give this man a reward or something ;)
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72-hour cease-fire announced. Let's see how long this lasts. :rage:
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72-hour cease-fire announced. Let's see how long this lasts. :rage:
Got my money on less than half of that.
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You answered to just ONE of my five remarks and you gave me something I can't even work with. Advanced intelligence implies advancement in technology and they wouldn't even need to knock roofs and abort strikes if their Intel is so sound and free of doubt. Face it man, you don't know jack-shit about Israeli Intel.
I'm supposed to watch which videos? The ones recorded by IDF? Mate I don't even watch Palestinian media because no matter what side you're on, there's always bias in the media. All I know is Palestinian children/women are dying and Israelis don't give a rat's ass.
Need I remind you of what Ayelet Shithead (possible misspelling of the last name; need confirmation) said? http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/16/371556/israel-must-kill-all-palestinian-mothers/
Is that the peace-seeking Israel you're trying to show us? If so, you've failed miserably.
About Israel's intelligence:
I've been in many lectures regarding Israel's intelligence,
and they CAN regognize and locate almost every house, and especially in Gaza, for instance "Waffa Hospital", the proof is in the previous page.
About the video:
The video is from an arabic news channel, not Israel's, and the Hamas Spokesman himself said that Hamas uses the civilians as human shields,
and he seems to be proud of it.
How can Israel kill the terrorists when they hide behind its civilians?
I'm pretty sure most of the world is aware of it but some try to deny it.
All you can do is moan that "Israel kills civilians", even though you know that the coward terrorists are responsible.
In addition, I would like to say that it is funny that then people say that Hamas is the army of Gaza and they protect its civilians,
and that IDF are terrorists.
You either can't see it, or try to deny it.
Additionally, of course Israel wants peace, Hamas doesn't (obviously...).
The only way we can have peace is to eliminate all terrorists.
Every person can think and say anything he has in mind (At least in Israel),
as long as he doesn't hurt or harm anyone or anything.
Not like the terorist in Jerusalem, that killed a man and flipped a bus, yesterday.
And by the way, Ayelet is a radical right-wing retard, believe it or not, I agree with you. She really is a shithead.
It's sad that things like that are not published enough in Israel but in the world.
I didn't know about what Ayelet said until now.
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Make love. Not war.
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Make love. Not war.
Well yeah, but you can't love a terror organization.
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Sorry for double-posting.
Some people said that posting Gaza's/Israel's sources are pointless,
so here is an indian reporter, showing that Hamas launches rockets near houses and hotels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fP6mlNSK8
Hamas launches rockets from hospitals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu-e5qWXx-k
For the people who don't believe that Israel warns first:
(Also not Israel's source)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doYmYby_7mk
You can see that Israel firsts launches a not-lethal bomb before launching the lethal one.
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Make love. Not war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fktHIg1jJLk
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For the people who don't believe that Israel warns first:
(Also not Israel's source)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doYmYby_7mk
You can see that Israel firsts launches a not-lethal bomb before launching the lethal one.
Actually it's not that people don't believe it. It's the fact that it's useless because here's the scenario:
-Israel knocks on roof in Area A.
-People in Area A move to Area B
-Israel bombs Area A and B. --> Fucked either way.
OR
-Israel knocks on roof in Area A.
-People in Area A don't have enough time to move to Area B. ---> Fucked.
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Actually it's not that people don't believe it. It's the fact that it's useless because here's the scenario:
-Israel knocks on roof in Area A.
-People in Area A move to Area B
-Israel bombs Area A and B. --> Fucked either way.
OR
-Israel knocks on roof in Area A.
-People in Area A don't have enough time to move to Area B. ---> Fucked.
Did you see the video or not?
You can see in the third video that the buildings nearby don't take any damage.
You can also see in other videos the same thing.
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Did you see the video or not?
You can see in the third video that the buildings nearby don't take any damage.
You can also see in other videos the same thing.
So yeah... At 0:08, a warning strike hits. 1 minute and 6 seconds later, an F16 rocket (judging by what's written in the video) hits the building.
You do know old people actually live in apartments there right? And I don't know how old people in Israel are, but for the ones who have been suffering their entire life, Palestinian elders sure as Hell aren't Usain Bolt. They gave them 1 minute and 6 seconds to leave. It's like saying "we're about to destroy your house and there's a 90% chance you're gonna die too. You want to take stuff with you? HA, fuck you."
Then the second rocket hits. "What's that? You ACTUALLY survived the first one? Fuck you again."
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So yeah... At 0:08, a warning strike hits. 1 minute and 6 seconds later, an F16 rocket (judging by what's written in the video) hits the building.
You do know old people actually live in apartments there right?
Israel can see if the occupants leave or not.
It's like saying "we're about to destroy your house and there's a 90% chance you're gonna die too. You want to take stuff with you? HA, f**k you."
Then the second rocket hits. "What's that? You ACTUALLY survived the first one? Fuck you again."[/font]
Sure, if that's what you want to think.
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Suspect in kidnapping, murder of 3 Israeli teens arrested
Hossam Kawasmeh, arrested on July 11, admitted to leading cell which abducted and murdered Gil-Ad Schaer, Eyal Yifrach, and Naftali Frenkel; He received funds from Hamas.
A suspect in the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teens in the West Bank was arrested on July 11, it was released for publication on Tuesday. Hussam Kawasmeh was arrested at a relative's home in 'Anata near Jerusalem.
Kawasmeh received funding for the terror attack from Hamas members in the Gaza Strip. He was arrested by Yamam, an elite counter-terror unit, following a tip from the Shin Bet.
After the discovery of the bodies of Gil-Ad Schaer, Eyal Yifrach, and Naftali Frenkel, the suspect left his home and went into hiding, relying on his family members, with the hope of reaching Jordan using forged documents.
(http://images1.ynet.co.il/PicServer4/2014/06/26/5418218/5418217097192490285no.jpg)
Marwan Kawasmeh and Amar Abu-Eisha have yet to be caught. (Photo: AP)
During his interrogation he admitted that he led the cell that executed the attack – which included Marwan Kawasmeh and – who have yet to be captured. As leader of the group, Hossam raised the funds for the attack from Hamas operatives in Gaza.
He admitted to purchasing equipment, which he passed on to Marwan Kawasmeh.
(http://images1.ynet.co.il/PicServer4/2014/06/18/5398534/5389476890099408258no.jpg)
The three murdered Israeli teens: Eyal Yifrach (left), Gil-ad Shaer (center), and Naftali Frenkel (right).
During his interrogation, it was discovered that after the murder, Marwan arrived at his home and the two drove to the plot of land – which Hossam had purchased two months earlier – where they had buried the bodies.
Hossam continued to help hide his two accomplices to the kidnap and murder.
Kawasmeh's involvement with the cell which conducted the kidnapping and murder was discovered through a government response on Tuesday regarding an appeal to the High Court of Justice against the demolition of the three terrorists' homes.
Israel noted that there is administrative evidence which points to the near certainty that the three executed the kidnap and murder but that it could not divulge details because two were still wanted. (source) (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4555463,00.html)
Hamas are the ones putting Palestinians in danger.
While Israelis are open to a two-state solution that could let both peoples co-exist peacefully, you can read the Hamas charter and see that a fundamental part of their mission is the destruction of Israelis and the Jews.
"'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.'
(Article 7, Hamas Charter)
Gaza is a very densely populated area compared to Israel, which is why any attempts to retaliate against Hamas have a higher chance of casualties compared to Hamas firing missiles into Israel. (not to mention the Iron Dome)
Both sides have their share of wrongs. But as long as Hamas' goal is to destroy Israel, peaceful coexistence cannot occur. Gaza must be freed from Hamas and violence put to an end.
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Israel can see if the occupants leave or not.
Bullshit. You can't fully evacuate a building in just over a minute, no matter how small. Want to take down a building? Make sure there isn't a shred of doubt that there's anyone in it. Don't just go on the hunch and say "yeah we gave 'em enough time... do it.".
"'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.'
Quote (hadith) by Muhammad Al Bukhari. Just some info for those who care.
As for the general situation over there, I don't follow their news 24/7 because right now there are attempts at an invasion of Lebanon at the hands of ISIL, and priorities are to be considered. Anyway, this pretty much sums it up for what I think:
Both sides have their share of wrongs. But as long as Hamas' goal is to destroy Israel, peaceful coexistence cannot occur. Gaza must be freed from Hamas and violence put to an end.
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Suspect in kidnapping, murder of 3 Israeli teens arrested
Hossam Kawasmeh, arrested on July 11, admitted to leading cell which abducted and murdered Gil-Ad Schaer, Eyal Yifrach, and Naftali Frenkel; He received funds from Hamas.
A suspect in the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teens in the West Bank was arrested on July 11, it was released for publication on Tuesday. Hussam Kawasmeh was arrested at a relative's home in 'Anata near Jerusalem.
Kawasmeh received funding for the terror attack from Hamas members in the Gaza Strip. He was arrested by Yamam, an elite counter-terror unit, following a tip from the Shin Bet.
http://youtu.be/lss-k9Hmf6g?t=24s
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http://youtu.be/lss-k9Hmf6g?t=24s
It's amazing how people distort facts to the way they want.
- Dozens of humanitarian cease-fire were suggested, and Israel accepted them right away.
Hamas did accept the cease-fire, but they kept shooting rockets to Israel's houses. - "IDF shoots Gaza citizens"? Please, don't be ridicules.
You know that Hamas is responsible for Gaza citizens' death, stop denying.
Since Hamas terrorists are cowards, they hide behind their families, and you know it.
When they die, you start complaining when you know if it wasn't for Hamas, they'd be alive.
In fact, sometimes, Hamas don't let a target's innocent occupants leave the area. - IDF only arrests the Palestinians who support terror and the ones who assist the terrorists.
Israel soldiers don't simply pick an innocent citizen and decide to arrest/beat him.
Bullshit
How can Israel easily locate buildings, but can't see if a building's occupants leave the area or not?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRFxfV9n6CA
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRFxfV9n6CA
Yeah that's what I posted earlier.
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It all started like 10 years ago. when we made the "Disconnect" From gaza strip. Before that we had the contorl of gaza Hamas was a very little group then no civies were dead and no rockets were launched to israel after that it all started. People knew that what will happen but still we made it to make peace.now 10 years later what people have thought what will happen happend and its already to late we cant go back in time.Thats the reason that Palastine wont be a country never , It will became second Gaza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbdnu_R9G40
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It all started like 10 years ago. when we made the "Disconnect" From gaza strip. Before that we had the contorl of gaza Hamas was a very little group then no civies were dead and no rockets were launched to israel after that it all started. People knew that what will happen but still we made it to make peace.now 10 years later what people have thought what will happen happend and its already to late we cant go back in time.Thats the reason that Palastine wont be a country never , It will became second Gaza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbdnu_R9G40
10 years ago things were a lot worse.
All the citizens in Gaza today were in the West Bank ten years ago (most of them).
Maybe Hamas was a little organization, but there were other terror organizations like Fatah.
They didn't have rockets, but they committed terror attacks, which were a lot more serious and did a lot more damage.
Now, the Palestinians in the West Bank are more educated and don't have access to weapons, yet sometimes do attack.
If it wasn't for the constant terror, the Palestinians would be free.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRFxfV9n6CA
but.... gaza has no open spaces!!!!!!1111111
(http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2014/Aug/5/LiveLeak-dot-com-2c9_1407255130-Northern-Gaza-beaches-and-famrs-Google-E_1407255187.jpeg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bdd7914e42ded3a861&ec_rate=230)
Picture taken from Northen Gaza.
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petarda told you all to ignore jidf posts or you'll just live a lie
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petarda told you all to ignore jidf posts or you'll just live a lie
What do you know?
You have opinions based on the media.
You don't live in the West Bank/Gaza/Israel, you don't know what's a lie and what's the truth here.
You are another person who thinks he knows who is right and who is wrong, even though there is not a right side in the conflict.
It's funny how people who don't know shit and that aren't even from here say what is "the truth".
Smart people and experts...
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Yeah that's what I posted earlier.
Woops, found it on facebook lel
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There are always good things in the world, luckily!
Too bad that people only want to see the bad things,
wish this video would be popular.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=481yOnMvtV8
(http://s9.postimg.org/h5uhbvz8v/g2t.jpg)
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petarda told you all to ignore jidf posts or you'll just live a lie
Petarda has been one of the users in this topic who are notorious for steering the discussion in a direction where both sides insult each other, and now such users are muted. Let this be an example that we will not tolerate uneducated and toxic discussions.
For the sake of informed discourse, it would be best if everyone cited at least one source when opening up a new area of the topic.
On-topic, there's something I'm curious about.
Maybe Hamas was a little organization, but there were other terror organizations like Fatah.
They didn't have rockets, but they committed terror attacks, which were a lot more serious and did a lot more damage.
Considering the scale of today's conflict, how was Fatah worse than Hamas is today? How did they do a lot more damage?
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There's something I'm curious about.
Considering the scale of today's conflict, how was Fatah worse than Hamas is today? How did they do a lot more damage?
Ten years ago, there was no such thing as Gaza Strip. The area was part of Israel's land.
All the terrorists that are today in Gaza, were in the West Bank.
In addition, the West Bank border was not as stable as today's, so the terrorists in the West Bank could easily enter Israel.
Back then, the number of terror attacks (such as blowing up buses, shots on Israeli cars, murders of entire families) in Israel was significantly higher.
These terror attacks happened weekly, and caused a lot of casualties and damage.
The difference between today and ten years ago, is that back then, all the terrorists were inside Israel, and today, they are only in Gaza,
so they can't do much, except launching rockets that mostly don't reach cities, and if do, the Iron Dome disables them.
Also, as far as I know, Fatah was more radical, and more harmful towards both sides (To the Israelis and to the Palestinians).
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Again, sorry for double-posting.
Just as I expected, the cease-fire was violated after only three days, when Hamas launched 35 rockets to Israel cities.
Hamas only wants to be expressed with power and violence, and isn't open for negotiations and talks.
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http://youtu.be/d4uPFGKn8z4?t=3m25s
(Start from 3 minutes and 25 seconds)
Throwing rocks at our riot team. Great party.
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http://youtu.be/d4uPFGKn8z4?t=3m25s
(Start from 3 minutes and 25 seconds)
Throwing rocks at our riot team. Great party.
Are they a pro-palestine/Israel protesters?
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Are they a pro-palestine/Israel protesters?
It all started with the ISIS-bullshit but soon turned into Muslims vs The rest.
People brought in Israeli flags and flags with Arab text on it. Which brought it back to that subject.
We now have to beware of that subject basically everywhere since somehow anything can turn into a fight about Gaza.
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Israel has agreed to ease the closure on the Gaza Strip, according to information obtained by an israeli website regarding an apparent agreement between Hamas and Israel, achieved via Egyptian mediation at the negotiations currently underway in Cairo.
Israel will agree to transfer the Hamas government salaries through a third party – facilitating the payment of Hamas officials' salaries. It was further agreed that Israel would gradually expand the fishing area off the Gaza coast, initially expected to be six nautical miles. It was also decided that construction materials will enter Gaza under close supervision.