If HQ allows, I can simply pay for a hosted tab listingSame here
If HQ allows, I can simply pay for a hosted tab listing, no questions asked.
We've had the server on the Hosted Tab during RS5 a few times, sure it brought in players but how many actually stayed? Spot on a list doesn't make people stay it's how they view the server and it's player's.It will raise the probability.
http://www.freehostedtab.co.vu/
Or this one, it offers 30 days free service so you can see if it works, bringing new players on your server. After the 30 days have passed, you gotta pay $9/$10 /month.
You make it sound like the admin team has never dealt with the server being on the hosted tab before. Don't get all worried now.That's not what I am saying, most of players now are in a vacation even there's not a lot of staff team online in peak times right now. In ParUni we ban like 50 accounts per day because of the hosted tab, 80 percent of them are hackers..
I have no issue in coughing up the 25 euros a month by myself. Just let me know if I can go ahead and buy it.I'm glad to see people like you! Thank you !
You have to think about the disadvantages about this first, if admins are ready to go on full time active on the server then there's no problem in putting the server in hosted tab.Admins can take care of it, if they need help they will hire new admins/mods as they did before.
Most of players who go on hosted tab are the guys who search for free-roam or DM servers to test their "hacks" or to just annoy others so he laughs, most of these players are between 10-16 years old so yeah... Admin team has to be ready and players also have to be ready and patient for the mess which will come because of hosted tab.
Do it like, asap, like this week, and i'm not even kidding!! It will only bring benefits to our comunity.
We've had the server on the Hosted Tab during RS5 a few times, sure it brought in players but how many actually stayed? Spot on a list doesn't make people stay it's how they view the server and it's player's.Yeah but RS5 wasn't really ready for it. Do you remember what happen in rs4 when we went on offical?
Just lower the minimum amount, atm its 5 pounds or gtfo. :lol:
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It doesn't look like to have a great impact.The low playercount is not because of the new players.
Brings tons of hackers but don't really bring new players that stay around.
Let's not use the school excuse. We know the problem is not there as there are more than 20k players playing SA:MP and we have only 15 of them on our server.
Gotta keep in mind that Argonath's playerbase mainly consists of loyal community members, a lot of which happen to have to go to school now.
Then what is the problem?
Good news!
Indeed, finally someone who knows the problem and is in administration team. The lack of players problem is because the actual server scripts and instead of trying to make make them better and come up with unique scripts that a player may be starting to play here because they enjoy the scripts, we're working on Telegram and god knows what else.If you would actually have paid some attention you would know a lot of people have asked for a 'telegram' style item, a way so they can communicate with their friends without being in-game.
You're very correct dear Salmonella, and the loyal members of our server are getting older now.
A good part is, yeah. Still I think the majority goes to school.I'll give it until 25th September for this school thing to end. School is a reason but it's not the main one.
If you would actually have paid some attention you would know a lot of people have asked for a 'telegram' style item, a way so they can communicate with their friends without being in-game.This wouldn't solve the problem with the player base, would it? I mean, we want people to BE IN-GAME, not out of it.
I doubt our only issue is the school, summer, winter, holiday or whatever reasons you guys have.Its not the only issue. And it shouldn't be classed as an issue because its something that comes before everything. Not to mention, many people may have school but alot of us are now moving towards college and such.
How about dropping all these "inactive because of summer", "inactive because of school", "inactive because of winter holidays"? Let's face the truth, we're lacking of players because we do not satisfy nowadays roleplayer's demands for a better server.That's about it.
There are new servers around, who were build in less then 2 months, by one scripter, whos script looks like science fiction to Argonath.
There are new servers around, who were build in less then 2 months, by one scripter, whos script looks like science fiction to Argonath, and it doesn't have a single script bugged or missing comparing to Argonath, on the contrary they're all sophisticated comparing to ours.
Why is that? Because other scripters dedicate more time on the scripting than other additional needs for the server and work efficiently whilst HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO DOES THAT. We're having 2 scripters yet we're lacking of basic scripts that any roleplay server has.
Please stop talking out of your ass when you say a complex server script has been created by a single person in under two months without a single flaw.
Have you ever considered the scripters have lives, jobs and other things to attend to. They don't have time to sit down all day every day for hours on end scripting for something that brings in no actual income in their lives.
There may be flaws, but it's still science fiction compared to Argonath.
You do realize RS5 was initially based on the others plan for the server which is now being modified by the development team to suit the players?
Why is that? Because other scripters dedicate more time on the scripting than other additional needs for the server and work efficiently whilst HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO DOES THAT. We're having 2 scripters yet we're lacking of basic scripts that any roleplay server has.
Yeah, I do. And that's what I am pointing out, seeing how much of changes we need to get done, we're slow.If you know so well what Argonath needs, why don't you apply to become a scripter instead of just throwing negativity around the forums? The telegram bot was developed because a lot of people (including me) asked for it. It is a great addition for many of us. If you read around the forums, you can see that Teddy has trouble with his computer, making it almost impossible to do work on the SAMP server. Be happy he is willing to do this.
If you know so well what Argonath needs, why don't you apply to become a scripter instead of just throwing negativity around the forums? The telegram bot was developed because a lot of people (including me) asked for it. It is a great addition for many of us. If you read around the forums, you can see that Teddy has trouble with his computer, making it almost impossible to do work on the SAMP server. Be happy he is willing to do this.
Believe it or not, scripters are not paid to do this. They do this in their own free time, next to their dayjobs IRL. They give up time to play as a player in SA:MP to help develop the server, to help it grow even further.
Please stop talking out of your ass when you say a complex server script has been created by a single person in under two months without a single flaw.Lol, why's that hard to believe? A guy is dedicated and has no life, also has a great knowledge of what he's doing. And he's not even copy pasta it.
Please stop talking out of your ass when you say a complex server script has been created by a single person in under two months without a single flaw.Sorry to break your bubble, but I have created such script. Want to take a look in my Github repo?
Please stop talking out of your ass when you say a complex server script has been created by a single person in under two months without a single flaw.Nothing is complex if you work out the mechanics. Complex scripts can be created in a matter of weeks let alone months.
Yes, scripts can be made in short amount of time, but you need to calculate other factors too. For example the time said scripter has to create and test said script, amounts of work that needs to be done to achieve said script, the changes that need to be made to edit other scripts to get this script to blend in. Some times, more important things need to be done first, thats why a lot of delays exist. Not even begining about earlier mentioned computertroubles where said work is done on.Thats true, however to not make changes to the base script EVERY TIME a new script gets released you need to be more dedicated and work accordingly. My offer still persists.
Please stop talking out of your ass when you say a complex server script has been created by a single person in under two months without a single flaw.If we work on the assumption that they could be a NEET, and also entirely dedicated to the script in those two months, then that feasibly gives them every hour of every day to work on it in some capacity. Even if we take a conservative estimate (to account for basic life utilities + some break days to avoid burnout) of something like 12 hours a day, that still works out at like 732 man-hours over those two months, which is a huge amount especially if they already have the necessary technical skills.
in my opinion, risking to have 5 hackers joining and one serious player is something I'd really take, since we got the a-team to handle theese " hackers ".
For my opinion, first we should make the server stable and with features that attract new players and veterans as well. After this the player count is just a matter of days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj8ItVWXMsUEither you do all the changes of making Argonath a serious server, or you keep Argonath the way it is.It was said before that Argonath will not change to a srs server.
It was said before that Argonath will not change to a srs server.You can't do stuff half way and think that people will understand the point of the changes. A mix of everything might have worked five-six years ago, but with the concurrence today means that your server needs to have something out of the ordinary. Argonath has nothing out of the ordinary right now. It's a basic server with quite basic player base who live in its past and believes the future will somehow turn into a paradise without doing the job that is necessary to do. I once reached out to help but got "ignored" with the attitude of the knowledge is way above my class. I still wonder when that's going to show.
And no one suggested that Argonath should change to a srs roleplay server. Yet a serious server, with decent roleplay level.And this is what I meant, if you misunderstood my first post, Bruce.
What does he have to do to entertain him? Let's see.
- Mechanic - drive around and offer repairs.
- Medic - drive around and heal 10hp while food heals 30.
- Trucker - drive around all alone from spot to spot just to earn some money.
- Hooker - what's the purpose of this again?
- Fireman - only proper job there is that serves function.
You are missing the most important.
- Roleplay - This is a RP server.
You obviously don't belong here. There is that other N... RP server where you RP with scripts more than players, why don't you relocate there? I'll send you IP.
In case people are wondering about me being away from Argonath is because I frankly don't have any time for games and I rather enjoy playing when I do than trying to change a community that is unwilling to sacrifice what's brought them down in the first place. Even though things has changed the last couple of months, you can't do it half way and expect an inferno of players.
We're discussing how can we get more players, why don't you show us some positive attitude and listen to us?
Do you have any idea how ignorant your post right here is? I'm the only one listening to you guys and making changes. Nobody else ever cared in Argonath until I showed up as a developer.
That's good, you didn't bring anything special anyway.Can't you please tell me when you've done five successful groups during the years, been creating videos, topics and signatures for the community since 2008, been an admin on SA:MP, a mod on IV:MP, while being interacted and a part of almost all the big groups in the past, while being the creator of various of topics who reached and created discussions that created changes, which also led to good debates and probably a few changed thoughts and at last tell me when you've taught as many players as I've done and making new players feel at home here on Argonath such as previous community leaders.
Can't you please tell me when you've done five successful groups during the years, been creating videos, topics and signatures for the community since 2008, been an admin on SA:MP, a mod on IV:MP, while being interacted and a part of almost all the big groups in the past, while being the creator of various of topics who reached and created discussions that created changes, which also led to good debates and probably a few changed thoughts and at last tell me when you've taught as many players as I've done and making new players feel at home here on Argonath.
Otherwise, please leave your garbage post about me doing nothing for this community while you don't have a clue of what any of the old generation has done for this community, including myself.
You are missing the most important.
- Roleplay - This is a RP server.
You obviously don't belong here. There is that other N... RP server where you RP with scripts more than players, why don't you relocate there? I'll send you IP.
I'm talking about past months. You may have been this and that before, i don't care at all to be honest , you're not playing here reguarly , now , to see what's really happening. Your successful group died just a bit after you went inactive, maybe dedicate more time to them instead of blaming all the community players for your own fault.
I have been interacting with everyone since i registered the first day, been helping tons of players and i reached some of my goals too. But not for this i feel like i'm ahead and that the community must change because i want it to go in my way.
Changes that takes hell of a lot of time before being in-game, or most of the times be ignored or put in the so long waiting list of scripts.
Do you think that being a roleplay server excludes you from the need of having actual scripts? Sure, /me and /l can support some basic RP but there's a reason Argonath is dying and other RP servers are getting more and more popular, and part of that is boring scripts and jobs on Argo, you can't just blame everything on the community like you like to do. Of course, admins constantly acting childish and attacking the players that disagree with them doesn't help also...
I do believe I said you are missing thus implying in addition to scripts, RP is most important.
As you can see, it doesn't work like that. Players won't come only because we've got a /me command, no.
in addition to scripts, RP is most important.
Indeed, there's literally no reason for a new player to come to Argonath instead of one of the many RP servers that exist and are much move advanced than Argonath script-sense. Unless you're aiming for old Argonath players coming back, you won't ever get past your daily 50 player cap unless you start innovating.
As you can see, it doesn't work like that. Players won't come only because we've got a /me command, no.
I do believe I said you are missing thus implying in addition to scripts, RP is most important.You're acting as if Argonath is the only server that has roleplay, no, there are many other servers that arguably have better roleplay quality while having much better scripts than Argo.
If you do not care, why bother raising an argument against me when it's invalid and has no use?
And for your own information, Markk. I am, as you wrote, not around anymore more than on forum when I have the time to, so you can eat your sandwich while believing that changes and hard work immediately grow out of trees while Teddy and their great comrades are trying his hardest to get the community back together.
Player's mind should change, we're not like those serious roleplay servers where you gotta pay to boost up and i guess none wants us to turn into that. You can still have fun without all those script functions, scripters are having a hard time right now and they're not getting paid for what they did/do here.
I agree that some things like drug script are outdated and annoying but it's standing united each other that we can raise playercount and roleplay, moaning about this was better before or i want this because i saw it there continuosly will just lower the mood of you and those who hard work may not like it.
@Que Okay we get it, you used to be cool on Argonath. If you want to play a "Real Life Simulator", there are a lot ot of servers out there and possibly Argonath will have one too. You can go and play on those servers. For eight years I have been here playing by the Argonath rules and style. That's why we play here, I don't understand why you want to change the things which made Argonath unique.I don't think you understood his intentions. Its not about making Argonath a RL server, nor a serious roleplay server. Yet a decent roleplay server, in which roleplay rules would apply. That's something most of the Community wants, and supports. We had few things changed in that direction, and like I pointed out, everyone loved those changes, and the roleplay among people including the creativity of those roleplayers were level'd up.
I have to agree a bit with cow here.If you read this carefully it sound strange.
I know how you feel Emmett with the empty promises and sadly we're not doing much better than the former team with those.
So if we give 20 millions to every players, server would be full.
So if we give 20 millions to every players, server would be full.
All of you who talk shit about Que, I hope your keyboard burns.
Tbh, yeah, maybe not 20 millions but you get the idea.
Yeah I got the idea. People want money and that's all.
Yeah I got the idea. People want money and that's all.It's not really that people want money. But people are playing a game. They're doing stuff and they want to get rewarded for it. After all this is an RPG, people role-play, reinact real life in some way. If people buy something, or work for something and get little to no reward, that demotivates people. Yes, of course this is a game, we shouldn't worry about money. But then again, that's what you could say on a DM, or stunt server. Money in a role-play server is rather vital, and it'd be nice if there's a proper way for people to earn it if they invest money in to it themselves too.
Cops don't earn anything yet they roleplay constantly and don't whine for money so I don't get why everyone can't do the same.I'll RP a mobster, a lawyer and a businessman but I can't afford to pay my taxi driver. Money is an asset, as are scripts.
Cops don't earn anything yet they roleplay constantly and don't whine for money so I don't get why everyone can't do the same.
@Que Okay we get it, you used to be cool on Argonath. If you want to play a "Real Life Simulator", there are a lot ot of servers out there and possibly Argonath will have one too. You can go and play on those servers. For eight years I have been here playing by the Argonath rules and style. That's why we play here, I don't understand why you want to change the things which made Argonath unique.Argonath isn't unique anymore, lol. Just check the current player base. People do not stay around. You guys are like the Swedish political parties where you think that everything is fine and everything is perfect because it was eight years ago. But ok, man. You're right. I'll check back in a year or so to see the splendid progress.
Cops don't earn anything yet they roleplay constantly and don't whine for money so I don't get why everyone can't do the same.Being a cop is a fulfilling roleplay-oriented job. Police applied for their job because they wanted to roleplay being a cop. If you look deeper into the issue instead of posting highly generalized statements maybe you will find your answer.
Cops don't earn anything yet they roleplay constantly and don't whine for money so I don't get why everyone can't do the same.
Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about, you spend not that much time actually playing the game, and more of the time talking nonsense and banning people for incorrect reasons, learn the actual game itself before commenting on it. :)
Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about, you spend not that much time actually playing the game, and more of the time talking nonsense and banning people for incorrect reasons, learn the actual game itself before commenting on it. :)Correction, more of the time reading people's PMs and cb chat.
Get to the point being a division leader doesn't always make you right. No need to act like you know shit and live the fame.
And.. you should show some respect either.Respect is to be shared by both sides, not only by one.
You don't spend that much time playing either considering you waste all of it in unban request board.
Good job, a banned player telling a Division Leader to learn the game..
Go learn the rules.
Guess what, it's prime time right now and there are 20 people on the server. Congratulations, the people who didn't like it took your advice and left to a server that payed more attention to them.
The server itself, the scripts, are the problem.
It's not the scripts/server , it's the players.???????
Gandalf should come and see what is going on.
So if we give 20 millions to every players, server would be full.
You don't spend that much time playing either considering you waste all of it in unban request board.
Good job, a banned player telling a Division Leader to learn the game..
Go learn the rules.
It's ironic that those who were against the changes and just spoke shit on unique ideas no longer play either, so that's one positive outcome of that situation.
No need to start throwing shit at each other, this isn't the place for it. Get back to the "discussion", guys.Could you please tell me where the place for it is? Clearly we can't give our opinion or the ban hammer falls again. (Refrain from posting the HQ email, please.)
Thank you, Cyril and Devin for confirming exactly what it is that I was talking about. It's your toxic attitude that has destroyed this server. I hope you're fulfilled leading a crippled community and shitting on the long time members you still have left.
Look around the forums, you've created anarchy. Everyone is angry at you, and every topic has the same message behind it. Maybe it's time you sat down like adults and thought about how you will continue forward."those who change their attitude because of others are pussies"
Perhaps figure out what you are reading before you post shit like this again. I hope you're enjoying being a dickhead.
"those who change their attitude because of others are pussies"
Please refrain from continuing this argument so we can get back on topic
You want a change? Then get your ass in-game instead of moaning and talking about no-sense here. Developers will do their work, you should do yours as a player. Enough bullshit.Coming online again facing the same shit over and over again? Thank you but no.
We will never get anywhere, because no one ever agrees with nothingThat's how people move forward.
You're a f**cking idiot.
So matture of you. Can't we speak civilized, like people do?Try doing all that paperwork and then someone vomits at those papers... how will you feel about that?
So matture of you. Can't we speak civilized, like people do?As said before, if you talk nicely, people talk back nicely. If you don't, they won't.
Return to the topic or this topic will be closed for constantly going offtopic.That what happening !
We can keep the server in the hosted list. But i don't think that this will increase the player count. We need new powerful factions and new roleplay events to entertain emotions meanwhile we will be patient waiting the improvments of the feautures which were promised time ago. I would like all of us to realise that this has nothing to do with current script team.We need people who take care of new players again..
waiting the improvments of the feautures which were promised time ago. I would like all of us to realise that this has nothing to do with current script team.
We need people who take care of new players again..i am always up for this but almost always the answer is; no stop watching me or they just /q 10 secs later
i am always up for this but almost always the answer is; no stop watching me or they just /q 10 secs laterPeople get scared from freezing and red names. Talk with them like a new player.. like hey you wanna roll around and play together, we can be friends i will teach u everything here.. not just freeze him or tp to him with a weird name colour and say "Hi, you need help?" "Please read /rules and /help, bye."
We need people who take care of new players again..
i am always up for this but almost always the answer is; no stop watching me or they just /q 10 secs later
Yet we made joke of MIB'S which recruited everyone in LSAP, but i would like to remind that some beautiful days we reached to 70 active players daily and in weekends around 105 or more. Well, "we" made joke of Lucianos back in time that they used to recruit newbies, they weren't recruiting newbies, they were giving a /HOME/ to certain players which today are veterans, we need more leaders like Acika Luciano and CO. who will keep factions happy and player count will increase no matter how poor are the script terms. Do you need example? Before the unban of Frank Hawk the ballas were dead, once he joined the idlewood is full everyday, we need Corleones as well, i don't know how or what happened but some of them might not be happy, we need the real players of Argonath to keep the flow up with activity then the new players will stick around veterans to have fun and to add objectives for their self.Exactly the problem we have, we shit on people who actually do the job and make a good atmosphere for players, instead of actually promoting them and appreciating. They're all gone, there are some ready but I don't think it won't be with a price this time. We really need VCA, ACA back like before but this time it has to be more organised between ACA leaders, CMB leaders and DS (throwing an example yo).
why did my reply get removed? people get free passes to unlimited insulting and i can't voice my opinion? Hmmm doesn't sound right. . . . .
People get scared from freezing and red names. Talk with them like a new player.. like hey you wanna roll around and play together, we can be friends i will teach u everything here.. not just freeze him or tp to him with a weird name colour and say "Hi, you need help?" "Please read /rules and /help, bye."That's exactly what Gvardia does, if we see a new player that appears to have a genuine interest in the server. We have had a number of members that didn't even know what roleplay was before joining us. I would encourage other groups to do the same even if it isn't their main purpose.
You don't spend that much time playing either considering you waste all of it in unban request board.Division Leader? What have you contributed so far as Division Leader?
Good job, a banned player telling a Division Leader to learn the game..
Go learn the rules.
so I don't get why everyone can't do the same.You don't get anything really, you don't provide anything, you don't offer anything, you don't start anything, you were literary THE ONLY guy on this topic who said we should remove hosted tab, not even thinking deep on the future impact and benefit the Community will have from it.