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More on the lines that people should show effort in their roleplays, for example we would no longer permit "pull over or die" scenarios.How do you "RPily" pull some over? IRL guns would be enough. In most cases, if not all, the one(s) getting chased are the ones who avoid to RP.
You can no longer say you don't want to, or have no time to roleplay while you spend hours growing weed/driving about after you said it.
More on the lines that people should show effort in their roleplays, for example we would no longer permit "pull over or die" scenarios.
You can no longer say you don't want to, or have no time to roleplay while you spend hours growing weed/driving about after you said it.
You don't have to roleplay at serious levels or over-detailed nonsense (nobody wants to read those keybinds), but we want to see at least some level of effort put into it. You won't likely be forced to roleplay such crashes either, but if someone does roleplay, then we'd appreciate if you join in on it.
After all, we have to all work together to raise the image to a brighter light.
Isn't this a little excessive? Whatever happened to the "No forcing RP" rule?
People always misunderstood "forcing RP", if you're on a RP server and someone starts RP with you then you're oblidged to RP back, "forcing RP" is when the other player gives you no chance of doing anything back like:
>Guy approaches victim
>Guy does instantly /me grabs the man by the throat and tosses him inside a super mega tight safe making it impossible for the man to move.
That's forced RP.
People always misunderstood "forcing RP", if you're on a RP server and someone starts RP with you then you're oblidged to RP back, "forcing RP" is when the other player gives you no chance of doing anything back like:Exactly. People started using "forcing rp" to avoid situations they do not like. Or simply to avoid RP because they aren't even interested in one.
>Guy approaches victim
>Guy does instantly /me grabs the man by the throat and tosses him inside a super mega tight safe making it impossible for the man to move.
That's forced RP.
Exactly. People started using "forcing rp" to avoid situations they do not like. Or simply to avoid RP because they aren't even interested in one.
Ok, but that still begs the question of is this not too excessive? This rule is too vaguely explained and with a plethora of implications. What if I login just to fly around in a plane for a bit? If someone says Hi to me through RP and I don't notice it, am I subject to being banned and shunned as the worst thing imaginable?
Glad you're taking steps into the right direction.
If people can't comprehend what "No forcing roleplay" means I really do feel afraid for them further on in life.
Ok, but that still begs the question of is this not too excessive? This rule is too vaguely explained and with a plethora of implications. What if I login just to fly around in a plane for a bit? If someone says Hi to me through RP and I don't notice it, am I subject to being banned and shunned as the worst thing imaginable?
I like that, so now certain people can't sit in their car and ignore the 10 men aiming guns at them and wait to be blown upAnd even more I like is that we won't be having those idiotic comments after that like 'Nice RP-stop or die'.
And even more I like is that we won't be having those idiotic comments after that like 'Nice RP-stop or die'.Will prepare my banana gun for that ;)
Isn't this a little excessive? Whatever happened to the "No forcing RP" rule?
What happend with it is that people like you misinterpret the rule. I can't believe that after so many clarifications from Gandalf himself and the HQ, people still use "you can't force RP" to justify their unwillingness to roleplay. The rule does not mean that someone can't force you to roleplay. What it means is that they can't force the roleplay to result the way they want to without taking your efforts into consideration. In other words, it's an Argonath's version of "No powergaming"
Force roleplay is allowed?
Does this including admins which are off duty?`=)
btw....how can we do RP? when sadly there is free cops and some veteran cops which /su people for fun and then bam bam....#MoreStrictRules4SAPD
Question: Is the guy entering a heli, plane, house, boat or whatever to save himself because he knows he's being hunted by group of people avoiding death(DM) or avoiding roleplay ?
Question: Is the guy entering a heli, plane, house, boat or whatever to save himself because he knows he's being hunted by group of people avoiding death(DM) or avoiding roleplay ?
#PutDownThisPoliceBrulity #MoreStrictRules4SAPDthats it im done :lol:
What happend with it is that people like you misinterpret the rule. I can't believe that after so many clarifications from Gandalf himself and the HQ, people still use "you can't force RP" to justify their unwillingness to roleplay. The rule does not mean that someone can't force you to roleplay. What it means is that they can't force the roleplay to result the way they want to without taking your efforts into consideration. In other words, it's an Argonath's version of "No powergaming"
Then go fly a f**cking plane on paruni. I don't see why someone who didn't join in-game for a month is bad girling right now.
Im RP:ing as clownDoes that "RP" includes raming cars, jumping on cars like a bunny, punching people.. "HaHa" 24/7 on main chat and local chat... And you blame cops for doing their job with you. Everytime you get suspected, why don't roleplay along but run away and "HaHa" when you die ... Instead you can start roleplaying along with cops. roleplay resisting or even a investigation. Sometimes that comes out fun. Try it, I suggest it to you.
Does that "RP" includes raming cars, jumping on cars like a bunny, punching people.. "HaHa" 24/7 on main chat and local chat... And you blame cops for doing their job with you. Everytime you get suspected, why don't roleplay along but run away and "HaHa" when you die ... Instead you can start roleplaying along with cops. roleplay resisting or even a investigation. Sometimes that comes out fun. Try it, I suggest it to you.
EDIT: Forgot the new meta, gets on a packer and drivers around doing nothing just wasting fuel. Instead you can go on mechanic duty and start roleplaying with that packer.
you muppet
Good. I've been waiting for this for so many years. It's a role play server, sure maybe it isn't heavy or strict realism role play but many players since birth of Argonath placed money farming and endless shootouts in front of inovative role play scenarios and actual interaction with other players.
I decided that not roleplaying, attempting to avoid roleplay, or in anyway ignoring a plausible roleplay scenario will render an immediate ban and will be treated in the unban request section as worse than hacking.So.. every time you see someone crash their car you gotta check if he/she's okay or get banned?
Does that "RP" includes raming cars, jumping on cars like a bunny, punching people.. "HaHa" 24/7 on main chat and local chat... And you blame cops for doing their job with you. Everytime you get suspected, why don't roleplay along but run away and "HaHa" when you die ... Instead you can start roleplaying along with cops. roleplay resisting or even a investigation. Sometimes that comes out fun. Try it, I suggest it to you.
EDIT: Forgot the new meta, gets on a packer and drivers around doing nothing just wasting fuel. Instead you can go on mechanic duty and start roleplaying with that packer.
So.. every time you see someone crash their car you gotta check if he/she's okay or get banned?
Yes.. my example is seriously far fetches.. but so is this rule..
I know that some people just go in Argonath to hang out with friends, to take their stressful situation out by just driving around the map and whatnot, will they all end up banned too?
That random new-player who joins the server and doesn't know what to do and asks an explanation how the server works will be banned because he didn't know what command he should use to properly respond to a situation?
Do you see where I'm going with this?
So.. every time you see someone crash their car you gotta check if he/she's okay or get banned?car crash rp is too mainstream, just like taking out guns, people who do it should be awarded as most boring roleplayer 2016
No hate, but this must be the most over-exaggerated post in this topic.I think an over-exaggerated rule deserves the same reaction as a post.
Or shake the RP off in a normal way
I decided that not roleplaying, attempting to avoid roleplay, or in anyway ignoring a plausible roleplay scenario will render an immediate ban and will be treated in the unban request section as worse than hacking.
Since when is Argonath a strict RP server? IF you guys going change the mode, then remove public chat and use all strict RP functions and shit.
Since when is Argonath a strict RP server? IF you guys going change the mode, then remove public chat and use all strict RP functions and shit.Nobody said anything about strict-rp server, all they are asking and trying to achieve is people to actually start roleplaying and somewhat contribute to the server instead of using it as a chat service or constantly freeroaming around Pershing Square, ramming everyone on their way and overall acting like clowns, while totally ignoring everything that goes on around them and the people who are trying to start a roleplay situation with them.
No one is saying you have to roleplay or fuck off but if there's a roleplay opportunity take it and run with it. Don't just ignore it or fuck around while someone tries to interact with you.
I see it as thisYou listed some of the examples quite well.
- When you go up to somone to RP and they start bad girling about I don't want to RP right now or start arguments instead of role playing
- Player does stuff to avoid role play like run and lock their bad girl ass inside a house or bizz setting fee
- Plater pretends to be afk or mystiriously have to quit then comes back in less than 5 minutes
- Player getting in a boat or plane and going to the end of the map to avoid interaction until your mates come on
- Player ends up in situation where you have a gun or multile guns pointed at your face where you know you're fucked but somehow ignore that and think its completly fine to just get in a car or nrg and drive off like a pussy without even a single /me line or something in the local chat.
These are the things that rules are targetting
I see it as this
- When you go up to somone to RP and they start bad girling about I don't want to RP right now or start arguments instead of role playing
- Player does stuff to avoid role play like run and lock their bad girl ass inside a house or bizz setting fee
- Plater pretends to be afk or mystiriously have to quit then comes back in less than 5 minutes
- Player getting in a boat or plane and going to the end of the map to avoid interaction until your mates come on
- Player ends up in situation where you have a gun or multile guns pointed at your face where you know you're fucked but somehow ignore that and think its completly fine to just get in a car or nrg and drive off like a pussy without even a single /me line or something in the local chat.
These are the things that rules are targetting
Maybe if you were in the server as much as you write here, you would not have to ask for a clarification.
What does it have to do with anything? I've been here since 2008, I never left the community to begin with.The point is that you should stop complaining about a rule you have not even experienced yet. Past activity means nothing.
Why are you people avoiding to address the issue and instead attempt character assassination of those who are concerned?
The point is that you should stop complaining about a rule you have not even experienced yet. Past activity means nothing.
Get in-game and only then you should be commenting on the possible unclarities. Also, the staff members in-game are perfectly capable of answering any questions you might have.
Since when is Argonath a strict RP server? IF you guys going change the mode, then remove public chat and use all strict RP functions and shit.As I previously stated (and in case some people are too mentally handicapped to comprehend), no, this doesn't mean that the server is becoming "srsbsns" RP. It's just moving away from straight up refusing any interactions given the circumstances. You don't have to RP every car crash scenario if neither person involve wants to. It just means shying away from shit like:
Niggah.....i dont roleplayI'll respond to this shitpost in a way you can understand:
The point is that you should stop complaining about a rule you have not even experienced yet. Past activity means nothing.
Get in-game and only then you should be commenting on the possible unclarities. Also, the staff members in-game are perfectly capable of answering any questions you might have.
Hevar, I am beginning to think that your only purpose here is to make stupid people look smart.
I very much like this addition to the rules we currently have. I do have a question that, for me, hasn't been cleared yet. Am i not allowed to just come in game and drive around for whatever time i have? I mean sure, if i'm approached by someone or a group of people, i'll roleplay but does that hinder me or anyone from just freeroaming whenever we want?
I guess you're using a smartphone, which is made for dumb people to look smart =)
In my opinion obeying traffic lights would be very good addition to law. I do it sometimes and it just sets your mind to the right zone.Atleast make a brief stop at an intersection before crossing over.
Simple, if someone tries to roleplay with you, respond.
If you are in a situation where you can roleplay with a person, then roleplay.
If you are driving past someone does that mean you must roleplay with them? No.
If you are flying a plane does that mean you must roleplay with someone driving? No.
If you ran to the plane to escape someone chasing you, well it's rather self explanitory.
What we are getting at is this, take the opportunity to roleplay or don't bother playing. Don't come in-game and expect to drive around stunting at Pershing square for example.
Show some sort of realistic behaviour for the first time in many years within this server.
In my opinion obeying traffic lights would be very good addition to law. I do it sometimes and it just sets your mind to the right zone.
I very much like this addition to the rules we currently have. I do have a question that, for me, hasn't been cleared yet. Am i not allowed to just come in game and drive around for whatever time i have? I mean sure, if i'm approached by someone or a group of people, i'll roleplay but does that hinder me or anyone from just freeroaming whenever we want?
Anyone is free to come in and drive around, but at least do so respectfully and not like some that come on, speed around crashing into others then driving away.Thank you very much for clearing that up.
If someone tries to roleplay with you, at least accomodate them. But sure, driving around or just going around randomly has no issues.
Nah..Teddy expect you to stand there like John Travolta and fight back against the group or SAPD, otherwise it will be ''avoid RP'' haha
So.. every time you see someone crash their car you gotta check if he/she's okay or get banned?
Yes.. my example is seriously far fetches.. but so is this rule..
I know that some people just go in Argonath to hang out with friends, to take their stressful situation out by just driving around the map and whatnot, will they all end up banned too?
That random new-player who joins the server and doesn't know what to do and asks an explanation how the server works will be banned because he didn't know what command he should use to properly respond to a situation?
Do you see where I'm going with this?
Would be nice to see what Gandalf says about this..
Simple, if someone tries to roleplay with you, respond.No more needs to be said.
If you are in a situation where you can roleplay with a person, then roleplay.
If you are driving past someone does that mean you must roleplay with them? No.
If you are flying a plane does that mean you must roleplay with someone driving? No.
If you ran to the plane to escape someone chasing you, well it's rather self explanitory.
What we are getting at is this, take the opportunity to roleplay or don't bother playing. Don't come in-game and expect to drive around stunting at Pershing square for example.
Show some sort of realistic behaviour for the first time in many years within this server.
Atleast make a brief stop at an intersection before crossing over.This. Any reasonable driver - now that we're talking within roleplay - would yield for traffic at intersections, although the player can technically use the radar but for the sake for roleplay it's far more realistic to stop.
Would be nice to see what Gandalf says about this..I don't think it matters what Gandalf has to say about this, sure he pays the bills, and I respect that, but he doesn't play on the server, the server should meet the needs of those who are active on it and it seems the majority want a server that is less free roam and more RP, perhaps you could help with that by giving ARA to someone who will actually use it the way it's meant to be used.
@Gandalf
This. Any reasonable driver - now that we're talking within roleplay - would yield for traffic at intersections, although the player can technically use the radar but for the sake for roleplay it's far more realistic to stop.People don't even stop when they see a guy reaching the intersection driving on the main road.
now all of you stop reading this damn topic and get in-game and start interacting, doesn't matter how just do it. Have a party, have a race, open a restaurant, get creative, be creative, do something unique and adventurous. Argonath is what you make it by actions in-game, not what you type on the forums.
I have a feeling you'll be one of the first ones out. Thank god for that.
It's people like you which impeded progress. Whens the last time you've done something progressive? Obviously a new player isn't going to get banned if they don't know. Don't be dumb. This is merely a way to stop people from avoiding roleplaying and to weed out the folks who who not intention of actually participating in roleplay. I even go in sometimes to just drive around... but be ready to actually interact with players. That is after all the entire point of multiplayer games.
Argonath is not a freeroam server, it's a roleplay server.
Argonath is not a cops and robbers server, it's a roleplay server.
Argonath is not a team deathmatch server, it's a roleplay server.
Argonath is not a deathmatch server, it's a roleplay server.
Argonath is not anything else but a roleplay server. Is that really that hard for some of you to comprehend? JUST FUCKING ROLEPLAY.
roleplay. interact. roleplay. interact. say it as much as you need, just get it into your brains.
now all of you stop reading this damn topic and get in-game and start interacting, doesn't matter how just do it. Have a party, have a race, open a restaurant, get creative, be creative, do something unique and adventurous. Argonath is what you make it by actions in-game, not what you type on the forums.pls tell me this is a rule that will STAY and is not something to get more players IG...
pls tell me this is a rule that will STAY and is not something to get more players IG...
The players on the server tonight (just now) have demonstrated perfectly what the new rule is about: a large gathering of criminals (50+ players online) from different families having a clean interaction with not a single shot fired. This is what roleplay is about, well done guys!Good shit, guys. Let's all keep at it. This is a team effort. It doesn't matter if you're a criminal, cop or anything else.
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The players on the server tonight (just now) have demonstrated perfectly what the new rule is about: a large gathering of criminals (50+ players online) from different families having a clean interaction with not a single shot fired. This is what roleplay is about, well done guys!Why i'm not there when i started it!!?? Joking hahaha, good game boys, let's keep this up YET it ended in a shootout, but a strategist, cool and fully RP one. Never seen so many guys in the same RP/Scenario since i logged at RS5. We are Argonath! Let's get it activity back!!!
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Way to kill off the community. :app:
@Teddy.
I just want to say one thing.....never trust your feelings! hahaha =)
pls tell me this is a rule that will STAY and is not something to get more players IG...
My God, I didn't expect to see so many retards complaining about RPing in a RP server, good for this damn server for finally making a stance, Jesus f**cking Christ.
How will administration handle a player who refuses to be robbed/kidnapped for the fifth time in 30 minutes?
Yes, enforce roleplay in a roleplay server, HOW COULD WE DO THAT?I do understand your point but what's is being enforced now is against argovision afaik.
I do understand your point but what's is being enforced now is against argovision afaik.
argo vision is dead
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=38482.0Point 6.
Your eyes must be amazing or maybe I just skipped it, where does it say that you are free to not RP in this RP server?
Point 6.
I do understand your point but what's is being enforced now is against argovision afaik.
I do understand your point but what's is being enforced now is against argovision afaik.It's ironic how the Argovision encourages things like "RP it" whilst at the same time protecting people who don't want to RP on what is meant to be an RP server. :lol:
Sadly another thing people are struggling to comprehend about this;One question, if player A is chasing player B and shouting '' stop'' more than once, is player A able to shoot at the vehicle, not to kill player B yet to stop him? (obviously after many shouts.
Just because you run up to a player shouting "stop" does not mean they have to stop, no one in their right mind would stop when someone hostile runs up to them shouting at them to stop.
The same goes for this, just because a person doesn't stop and tries to run for cover or help when you approach them does not mean they are not roleplaying, it means they have common sense to escape.
That's hardly avoiding roleplay but looking for protection or assistance. Once you figure out the difference between those two factors perhaps there will be some hope.
One question, if player A is chasing player B and shouting '' stop'' more than once, is player A able to shoot at the vehicle, not to kill player B yet to stop him? (obviously after many shouts.If you have a clear reason to stop him, then sure - why not?
Sadly another thing people are struggling to comprehend about this;
Just because you run up to a player shouting "stop" does not mean they have to stop, no one in their right mind would stop when someone hostile runs up to them shouting at them to stop.
One question, if player A is chasing player B and shouting '' stop'' more than once, is player A able to shoot at the vehicle, not to kill player B yet to stop him? (obviously after many shouts.I think that a reasonable option could be: In order to stop the person, you can shoot at his car tyres, and once you pop them, the driver should be cooperative by stopping instead of continuing to drive like a retard.
You are not forced to roleplay whenever you get ingame, but when you are approached with roleplay, you should roleplay back. You can't ignore, avoid or refuse.
Does this include 3 Sultan's with everyone pointing M4's at me telling me to stop or do they have to come up with a valid reason to stop me? After all this is roleplay so for all they know they could of stopped someone for mistaken identityWhen someone decides to come up to you and stop you it means they already have got a reason. And to know the ''reason'', you must cooperate with them.
Does this include 3 Sultan's with everyone pointing M4's at me telling me to stop or do they have to come up with a valid reason to stop me? After all this is roleplay so for all they know they could of stopped someone for mistaken identityIn real life situation, you would've stopped for sure!
There are more ways to turn a roleplay situation around than running away or quitting. Bear that in mind.
Yep, groups that kidnap me will always kill me to show their authority or to pass down a 'message'. Can't remember a time when I actually lived after a kidnapping. There are loopholes around every rule you make. I can easily roleplay that I swallowed a poisonous pill that will kill me instantly /kill.
The bad sides of being criminal :gand:
Criminals complain about kidnappings always ending in their death. Well, that's because they always call the cops. Kidnappers don't call the cops. Kidnappers blackmail the family of the one that they kidnap..Yea man omg how did we not htink of this??????
Let's get one thing straight.
In the event you are trying to kidnap someone, you cannot make it so a person cannot "get out" of the situation. Some of you shits metagame to hell and make it so you "win". This game isn't about "winning", it's about roleplaying. Start accepting that too since that is apart of this. No more of this "that's made of diamond gold super alien metal you can't break it". Fuck off. Considering adding a compliance ratio rule; such as 3:1 you must comply.
Idk we'll see but good progress recently, can do better tho.
Have to agree to this. Ain't much fun getting kidnapped anymore. You are just expected to do as the kidnapper exactly wants. This is the same thing as real life tho you must be allowed to pee whenever you have to.
And yes, I can know.
I believe he was implying that if there is 3 people, and only one victim, the person is then duty bound by the ratio of the situation to effectively bend over.
Or have I misinterpreted this "If Ratio 3:1 = you dead" ??
Lets add an application system in order to join the server, so only the hardcore rpers can join!
Lets add an application system in order to join the server, so only the hardcore rpers can join!(http://i.imgur.com/Wvvkkkp.png)
Lets add an application system in order to join the server, so only the hardcore rpers can join!Yes, because we are a hardcore roleplay server.
All I can see is too much talking about new EVERYTHING, but we're still having 10 players as an average.
Regarding your activity;Why is he not playing tho?
This week 0 hours and 0 minutes
Last week 0 hours and 14 minutes
The current playercount right now is above 20 players at 1:30am. The day before we had 40-50, the day before that we were over 50 players. Please at least be active before throwing tainted stats out.
Why is he not playing tho?
I know why I'm not :D...
But him and the 100 others who left?
Monte Montague link=topic=115903.msg1822858#msg1822858 date=1458084983
But him and the 100 others who left?
Regarding your activity;
This week 0 hours and 0 minutes
Last week 0 hours and 14 minutes
The current playercount right now is above 20 players at 1:30am. The day before we had 40-50, the day before that we were over 50 players. Please at least be active before throwing tainted stats out.
You aren't because you broke the rules... again. Why other people left are problems we're trying to address in this very topic. A problem he is trying to address and has very clearly underlined. If you could actually come out of bitch mode you might see that.What can we do to increase the player base? What do you suggest? Should we be patient for RS5.2? In my opinion, if we get some kind of an economy in RS5.2, many options for business, etc. we'll be able to increase the player base significantly. Do you agree with me, or you think that some serious changes have to be made, such as implementation of this rule?
You expect me to be active without having anything to do in-game? As I've said, at least bring back the economy.
I can see now that you're ignoring the whole point of my recent post and trying to change the topic.
What can we do to increase the player base? What do you suggest? Should we be patient for RS5.2? In my opinion, if we get some kind of an economy in RS5.2, many options for business, etc. we'll be able to increase the player base significantly. Do you agree with me, or you think that some serious changes have to be made, such as implementation of this rule?
What can we do to increase the player base? What do you suggest? Should we be patient for RS5.2? In my opinion, if we get some kind of an economy in RS5.2, many options for business, etc. we'll be able to increase the player base significantly. Do you agree with me, or you think that some serious changes have to be made, such as implementation of this rule?
economy, economy, businessBecause everything revolves around fake pixelated money doesn't it?
Because everything revolves around fake pixelated money doesn't it?First lesson of Economics..
Don't know why fake cash means so much to people on a roleplay server, sure it can be used to enhance RP, but it isn't everything, and hearing everyone talk about money, money, money is doing my head in.
First lesson of Economics..they weren't in rs4, everyone had what they wanted and roleplayed, why? because the economy was sufficient for people to handle losses and move on.
Human wants are unlimited ;)
RS4 discussed over and over for months, I would have thought people were over it by now.Well of course it's still being discussed because from RS4 server they went to broken RS5 with reseted accounts and no features, we all do remember how first, six months(?) of RS5 had 5 guys online and only fireman job that actually worked.
Because everything revolves around fake pixelated money doesn't it?Well it's a fact that a lot if not most revolves around the money, it did revolve around the money in RS4(opening groups, buying fast cars, Ammunations, huge mansions and HQ's) people are most relaxed and happy when speeding through LS in their Infernus with 2000$ armour on and bank account substantial enough to buy a plane and what not. Those who are willing to play without money are a minority which player count proves, people are materialistic even when it comes to a game, that's just how it is.. they want to role play a big shot mayor or mob boss not some trailer park trash or a hobo.
Don't know why fake cash means so much to people on a roleplay server, sure it can be used to enhance RP, but it isn't everything, and hearing everyone talk about money, money, money is doing my head in.
we all do remember how first, six months(?) of RS5 had [...] only fireman job that actually worked.I'm pretty sure it was more like somewhere near two years of stagnation after the beta was cleaned up, with the (temporary) inclusion of trucking being the only noteworthy feature that I can recall. Teddy's sitting here working his ass off trying to clean up the mess created by all that and yet we still have doubters. We should feel lucky he didn't leave permanently when he went away for a while. If I were him I would've left without another word a long time ago. And that's why I'm never applying for any sort of admin position here :lol:
You can roleplay in game as long as there is at least one player with you involved in the roleplay, i assume nobody would roleplay alone perhaps i'm wrong however, you don't need 1,2,3,4,....20 players around you to roleplay and to say at the end .. WOW! that was an incredible roleplay because there were 20 players in the roleplay.
Roleplaying with yourself, the same group(s) or persons for two, three years gets boring.
Then you're doing something wrong, or maybe can't dedicate enough time.
Roleplay is which role you want to play ;), maybe change groups, character?
so we're starting to force players into roleplaying in a community whose primary ethos was to not force players into roleplaying?Next time, read before posting.
please guide me to the right path if I am mistaken, for I did not read the 12 pages preceding my own post.
so we're starting to force players into roleplaying in a community whose primary ethos was to not force players into roleplaying?
please guide me to the right path if I am mistaken, for I did not read the 12 pages preceding my own post.
Just as I mentioned before, there never was a rule in Argonath that you can't force people into roleplaying. Shall I remind you that Argonath is a ROLEPLAY server after all?
The reason why some players seem to be in belief that they are in liberty to refuse to roleplay is because of the extremely confusing wording of the "No forced RP" rule. It does not mean that you can refuse to roleplay. The rule means that you can't force the roleplay to come out the way you want it to, in other words, it's the Argonath's wording for "No powergaming".
And either way, nothing that stagnates survives.. A community should keep evolving and changing to be attractive for players. Argonath's been far behind on this aspect for too long.
Just as I mentioned before, there never was a rule in Argonath that you can't force people into roleplaying. Shall I remind you that Argonath is a ROLEPLAY server after all?
The reason why some players seem to be in belief that they are in liberty to refuse to roleplay is because of the extremely confusing wording of the "No forced RP" rule.
What if I told you that if we f**cking used the f**cking taboo words "power gaming" instead we wouldn't be having all these confusions between forced RP and forced to RP?+1
Lol, just use the terms metagaming and powergaming already.
No one is going to be forced to go along with every roleplay scenario.:uhm:
However, when you are in the server, you are expected to show effort and willingness to RP and interact with other players. If you avoid roleplay at every opportunity you see, you will be punished.> The rule should not be "Avoiding role-play" because it is not that. It's a case of people not exhausting the opportunities. Stressing the point "Exhausting oppurtunities"
If you avoid roleplay at every opportunity you see, you will be punished.
Hmm.
If you have something worth saying then do so.I am soz; something caused me to post far too early.
What if I told you that if we f**cking used the f**cking taboo words "power gaming" instead we wouldn't be having all these confusions between forced RP and forced to RP?
No one joins a roleplay server and expects not to roleplay or interact with people.
They do here apparently or there wouldn't be merit to this.Remains of RS4 mentality which was all about daily dose of adrenaline, gang vs gang, mafia vs mafia, cops coming into the groups, shootout starts, people driving over people on streets, driving over objects, posts, lamps... freeroam basically.
Remains of RS4 mentality which was all about daily dose of adrenaline, gang vs gang, mafia vs mafia, cops coming into the groups, shootout starts, people driving over people on streets, driving over objects, posts, lamps... freeroam basically.
Yes, a mentality we intend on purging with fire
The whole identity of Argonath has always been to avoid the serious mentality of roleplay and hide behind slogans and quotes once made by the leaders of the community, who happily jumped up on their horses, blatantly talking shit about every other roleplay server and disallowed anyone to talk about them. Once people took it to the next level, in-game or on the forum, they always got lots of shit and ended up banned somehow because they couldn't handle it anymore. If it wasn't people destoying the roleplay, just for fun or because they didn't know better, it was the mainchat, the provocative manner or the admin team who surely had no whatsoever idea of roleplay and randomly placed out warns and bans because people got mad when their roleplay got demolished and the whole one hour of playing went to the bin.Go ingame.
Now, when we got the leaders who actually focus the roleplay and the seriousness of the script updates, the old generation of roleplayers are missing. The name of Argonath remains, so does the rumors and old historic styles of roleplay which still targets yet a quite low standard. I'm openly suggesting more hard tones when it comes to the rules regarding roleplay, otherwise we will never get to the point where people choose Argonath for roleplay. It's still a place you hang out at once you're bored and not really a place where you go to roleplay.
You're still never going to activly play here so why do you keep posting ?
VC-MP is literally a server players go on for nostalgia and fuck around shooting one another as Cowboys and Indians, IVMP has yet to discovered the defination of RP and is limited as fuck with what you are allowed to do. Argo Vision is dead as well as RS4. Its time to move on and grow up. As far as I see people only get shit from HQ is because they start the shit first. If you literally go at HQ guns blazing don't expect for them to give you a pat on the back and treat you like a little baby. We're all supposed to be mature people here. If can't handle a little adult language then GTA isnt the game for you.
And lets be honest here since you've been given leadership of Paruni Monte you've been trying to compete so f**cking hard with SAMP RPG HQ even though they don't even give a rats ass about you or what you're doing. You been on this trip trying to call out everything they do as a mistake and all this crap. If you care so much about Argonath and the Community had you seen a problem with HQ you would talk with them privatly and get it resolved being a fellow Community Manager yourself. But no you go around throwing accusations and trying to stir drama trying to paint a bad picture for SAMP HQ. Clearly shows your maturity level. I still don't see why you spend so much time trying to spread negativity when you got your own community to deal with and that said community is a horse thats dead unike SAMP. THe SAMP HQ is focusing on fixing their issues and you can tell by the resurgance in player count for the past few days that its working. I suggest you spend your time working on your priorities before you come here pointing out others faults because we know your server has its issues, which are far worse than SAMP RPG.
VCMP is literally a CnR server. It has no business having "RPG" in its server name. I hear that IVMP is the same thing but haven't seen it myself. Besides that, the Argonath "Vision" is outdated and full of contradictions.Good distant friend, are you are the best example of superb mental health?
The current server leaders are doing a good job removing mentally handicapped people from the server for shitty roleplay. I haven't had an issue with the "new" rule and if a player with a colorful punishment history like me can adhere to it, anybody can. That is unless they're mongoloids and have no place on the server to begin with.
Yeah sure, IVMP =// roleplay server , i know some people who got enough of it and came in SAMP to have fun roleplaying.If this is the case, I retract the statement, I was under the assumption it was a roleplay server.
As far as I can see, VCMP and IVMP do not face the constant drama that SAMP does, and perhaps there is a strong reason for this - the straying of the original intention; to be warm and fuzzy in nature, nurturing, and not grouchy :neutral2:
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do any of you play VC-MP on a regular basis to give such loud statements regarding its gamemode? :rolleyes:I got screenshots if you so desire. All I saw were people car surfing comically, cops literally suspecting for no reason just to start a chase and other miscellaneous forms of grinding. Can't forget the SAMP rejects crying in public chat about why their bans were supposed bullshit and whatnot. The only player I came across who was exhibiting any form of roleplay is community banned.
I got screenshots if you so desire. All I saw were people car surfing comically, cops literally suspecting for no reason just to start a chase and other miscellaneous forms of grinding. Can't forget the SAMP rejects crying in public chat about why their bans were supposed bullshit and whatnot. The only player I came across who was exhibiting any form of roleplay is community banned.Then you got on a wrong time. VC:MP community outside of Argonath has mostly a DM mentality. If there is no admin around to keep them in check, they will start to misbehaving. The problem is that most admins spend more time trying to talk some sense into these new players that come from DM servers rather than playing. And it's something that we just have to deal with. Get on the server when regular players and admins are online.
As far as I can see, VCMP and IVMP do not face the constant drama that SAMP does, and perhaps there is a strong reason for this - the straying of the original intention; to be warm and fuzzy in nature, nurturing, and not grouchy :neutral2:
Will you stop shitting on other servers, please? This is a discussion about SA:MP issues, not a place to discuss your personal dissatisfactions/grudges with other communities.
I don't understand whilst there resentment of the Founders and their Vision.
Yet people are still there thinking they can try. Why don't they put their efforts into something where they know the Owners will not be a problem to them and their visions? their dreams?
Why is it that we must rebel against the Ownership, the original vision to progress?
I don't see the logic. It could be negativism and it's really not good.No wonder you see no logic, because hardly anything you write has any logic behind it.
Oh you did not just say that...
Who the hell are you to judge what VC:MP is and what isn't? You can get more roleplay in VC:MP in A DAY than in the entire month in SA:MP. The majority of VC:MP population are regular players who are accustomed to what Argonath is and what they're supposed to do there. To say that VC:MP is any less of a roleplay server is plain bullshit and slandering. How about you actually gave the server a try, especially after the recent changes, rather than speak complete and utter bullshit out of your mouth? Who gave you the right, especially as a representative of an official part of Argonath, to slander a server you haven't even gave a decent try? I am sorry for my agressive behavior, but VC:MP is exactly what introduced me to the Argonath community and its concept.
The majority of VC:MP population are regular players who are accustomed to what Argonath is and what they're supposed to do there. To say that VC:MP is any less of a roleplay server is plain bullshit and slandering. How about you actually gave the server a try, especially after the recent changes, rather than speak complete and utter bullshit out of your mouth? Who gave you the right, especially as a representative of an official part of Argonath, to slander a server you haven't even gave a decent try? I am sorry for my agressive behavior, but VC:MP is exactly what introduced me to the Argonath community and its concept. You're an idiot to say these completely stupid and unjustified things against a fellow community. I hope that such slandering against a community counter-part will be effectively dealt with.
Link, everytime I saw you ingame you were either AFK or trucking by yourself, I never saw you interact with anyone at all.
Link, everytime I saw you ingame you were either AFK or trucking by yourself, I never saw you interact with anyone at all.Looks like a good video.
Tevin, I doubt you even played VC:MP in the last 3 years, so you're just straight talking out of your ass.
Sure the VC:MP community is full of new players who have little knowledge of the gamemode are around, but veterans such as myself and Marcell always love to have intricate roleplays with each other.
Example which I recorded and happened on the newest script. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLp_OeLbyBA)
I wasn't expecting much from an Edge user.Edgey as fuck.
And once again you're taking out of your ass. I've never ever been banned on VC:MP. What on earth are you talking about...
Let us get back to SAMP :DGo wild, I just wanted to step in when someone called the server I play on most a "CNR" server.
For crying out loud...
Maybe because the so said wall of bullshit called the "Argonath vision/Owner's vision" has been a complete and utter failure and has pushed the community into a stagnation to a point where it lost a great deal of great players due to it? I am yet to see any other community other than Argonath whose owners would go AGAINST the majority of the community. Your beloved owners do not even give a shit. Has Gandalf yet even reacted to all the disatisfaction being expressed here? No, they hardly even play, yet their intentions are to ruin the joy of playing for others.
Because the ownership is anything but competent, as shown by recent events.
No wonder you see no logic, because hardly anything you write has any logic behind it.
Just stop fighting against each other. We know all topics must succumb to off-topic flamewars against each other on argonath but you need to grow out of this.I just have some concerns and thought I could be open about them but didn't expect people to go made ape shit. Ok Sorry if I did such thing.
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Do you even re read your posts before you click Post ?
@Rytuklis I failed English literature :(
I mean is it pointing out the obvious? If so why are we not focusing on fixing the obvious then?
Is it a case of "Silent Majority" ?
I don't understand whilst there resentment of the Founders and their Vision.
Yet people are still there thinking they can try. Why don't they put their efforts into something where they know the Owners will not be a problem to them and their visions? their dreams?
Why is it that we must rebel against the Ownership, the original vision to progress?
IF we must rebel, or go against it, should we not request autonomy or independence? Wait why not just leave, stop trying and go make our own communities where we can encourage being closed to people as possible. I see on a daily basis from many that the community of Argonath RPG is on a permanent decline and is "Toast". To tell people that it's not all that bad whilst we see the responses we see to what was intended as innocent concern, queries... it kind of reinforces that belief.
I don't see the logic. It could... be negativism and it's really not good.
The "Argonath Vision" is merely a post with words in it that meant something to the owner many years ago, as far as SAMP and the direction it is heading is to one where the server is made for the community not tailor made to one persons idea of a "perfect server"..... And another one bites the dust. You're a hero, Devin.
Even holy books undergo adjustments. Let's forget about this nearly decade-old vision and raise the playerbase and Argonath's level of roleplay.
What vision? I threw that shit out the window when planning RS5.2 :lol:
Enforce <insert forbidden term> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powergaming) then. It prevents a lot of discussions about what's forced and what's not.
no metagaming and no powergaming
that was easy
We should enforce reading too.
I've read it. You made me posting it though.
What vision? I threw that shit out the window when planning RS5.2 :lol:VIVA LIBERTE, VIVA REVOLUCION!!
I really don't know why people even assumed this "vision" was being followed in the first place. It should have been evident from when the development team was changed that things weren't running as they did before.
I got more than screens, video news report incoming!Bridges reopen cuz FLA is inactive :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b45PnzVO--Q
I haven't been around as a regular lately but I'm glad to observe that Argonath is finally in the right direction. I wouldn't expect this kind of changes before based on what was acceptable and what not, I really hope the environment is now more RP-friendly and people start having actual fun on the server. Good job! :janek:Great, when are you coming back active? We need your mexican boys back aswell ;)
I like how I'm in the focus for like 10 seconds shouting at them pigs. :) Nice one Marcel, now fire the abusive ones!
What are the views on when someone keeps jumping on your car for no good reason? Is it considered as just plain roleplaying or some poor roleplaying?
What are the views on when someone keeps jumping on your car for no good reason? Is it considered as just plain roleplaying or some poor roleplaying?
What actually do you do in a protest?
If you are implying jumping on a car is protesting, your lost. I've seen many protests and been in handful myself... never once did someone jump on a car.I've seen a person jump on a car in a protest :-)
Hardly relevant when the initial question was regarding a player jumping on cars like a clown with failure to actually roleplay.So what you mean is in the case of jumping on a car.
So what you mean is in the case of jumping on a car.
It is expected for the person to do /me jumps onto car ?
Did he get banned yet?
What are the views on when someone keeps jumping on your car for no good reason? Is it considered as just plain roleplaying or some poor roleplaying?
keeps jumping on your car for no good reason?
I don't believe I need to spell it out for you, if I do you have issues.Ok so it was a hypothetical question if someone is jumping on your car repeatedly ok.
What actually do you do in a protest?
If you are implying jumping on a car is protesting, your lost. I've seen many protests and been in handful myself... never once did someone jump on a car.Is what I said; that I've seen Protests which people jump on cars; and in that situation it was also considered an act of rioting / was rioting / non-peaceful / violent protest.
Ok so it was a hypothetical question if someone is jumping on your car repeatedly ok.
Thankyou.