YesThat's one detailed and very meaningful response.
I think you are wasting your valuable time on writing punch of lines and paragraphs on floor :gand: :gand:
Sometimes it's just not the person who's going to roleplay but also the person you're interacting. You can check some of my posts and see I do some kind of different stuff, and also if you remember The Latin Kings, you'll remember we brought different stuff months ago.
But what I want to say, the last few weeks I've been trying to interact with different people and actually I DO NOT PLAN on killing them, but here's the thing, they either run, shoot or tell me " I'm not in the mood for roleplay " and let me emphasize what they like to say the most " fk off ".
Like today, I was with a small group, and we went to interact with this person that we did not plan to kill and it ended up on him dead because he shot at us.
What I'm trying to say here is, believe it or not there's more people trying to roleplay than we probably think, but, there's no collaboration from opposites hence why things end in shootouts and shit.
Not saying players never mean to have a shootout lol
I spoke with so many people in the last month regarding this. They all acknowledge what I said above. People that really contributed to the community in so many ways, including current members of the staff team. Even they speak freely about it. There is something wrong in the system. It would be good if I get my answers as soon as possible.
To be honest everyone is to be blamed. Developers and HQ gave the players something, players found bugs, thry complained. Some on the proper ways, some by throwing all kind of shit on developers. Sure some things were broken indeed but there is always a fix for everything.
At the moment developers and HQ are working on RS5.3 and we are all waiting for it. I myself will do my best to insist that they involve staff into testing stuff to get something with less bugs and with more possibilities for players to enjoy.
I don't want to blame the staff team, their role is to make sure players are following the rules. But there isn't roleplay standard, there aren't rules against player A robbing player C, and when player C gets robbed three times per day, he gets frustrated and says "I can't stay here anymore"... I've witnessed this through the years, I know that server was even worse once, but why no one tries to change that?This is correct. They gotta need to add roleplay standards and detailed rules for robbing, scamming, bunnyhopping, and etc.
I want the roleplay standards of the server to be raised and defined. As Greasy said I prefer server having 5 people who are worth and I know I'm not wasting my time rather than 30 people doing the same boring shit day after day and calling it roleplay.
And it's not about bugs, scripts or developers at all, people with normal mindset can produce high quality roleplay using only basic commands.
I agree with you 100%. People (mostly cops) don't give a fuck about RP. They just come here to abuse the rules and get cash. I've seen most cops hunting the players for the reason "driving in the wrong lane" as you were driving in the right one. I believe this is a VERY VERY VERY light RP Server as most people abuse most of it things and 3 out of 50 people RP along.
Driving in the wrong lane as you mention isn't allowed at any country as much as I know, In my country you can be jailed and you will have to pay a huge fee. PLUS if you comply with the officer from the start, He won't SU'ed you and you will pay the ticket only which won't effect your notoriety.
They just come here to abuse the rules and get cash. I've seen most cops hunting the players for the reason "driving in the wrong lane" as you were driving in the right one.
I agree with you 100%. People (mostly cops) don't give a fuck about RP. They just come here to abuse the rules and get cash. I've seen most cops hunting the players for the reason "driving in the wrong lane" as you were driving in the right one. I believe this is a VERY VERY VERY light RP Server as most people abuse most of it things and 3 out of 50 people RP along.Because its cops's fault that you evade a $50 up to $250 fine. It is cop's fault that you drive like a complete jackass. Because its cop's fault that you see some guy being chased by 3 4 police cars and you decide to join out of nowhere and start ramming cops. Because its cop's fault that people turn a normal traffic stop to a 50v50 shootout like its fucking fortnite all over again. Once again, if you got no idea if cops do roleplay or no then start thinking who actually tries to roleplay and who does not.
Well, the thing is, we can't say anything to HQ(SEn Admins too) otherwise we'll end up in unban section. Yesterday a group came to rp with me and someone names with "V" came and hit me, i was on 1HP, it wasnt a accident bcs i was too away from road, i reported doggi reviewed it and closed it and didnt answer when i asked he said i didn't see anything so i can't do anything, i was going to "report" him on forums but we don't get answers of forum reports and after like 1min a man came and hit me while i was on 1hp, reported again, again ignored, i /q and was thinking that maybe bcs of TCL issues with me made him against me or ignoring me.Not sure who you have asked or who told you that we don't handle staff&player reports on the forums, We have prioritised them since the new year, They are all answered and handled, I've looked through the report log and you haven't seem to have ever sent one so i'd appreciate if you atleast try to report misdoing instead of shitting on the system, Since we cannot handle your reports if we do not know about them.
Well i once sent a report, never got a answer about that, like 1.2year ago, so i thought "Forum reports" suck :PWell, the thing is, we can't say anything to HQ(SEn Admins too) otherwise we'll end up in unban section. Yesterday a group came to rp with me and someone names with "V" came and hit me, i was on 1HP, it wasnt a accident bcs i was too away from road, i reported doggi reviewed it and closed it and didnt answer when i asked he said i didn't see anything so i can't do anything, i was going to "report" him on forums but we don't get answers of forum reports and after like 1min a man came and hit me while i was on 1hp, reported again, again ignored, i /q and was thinking that maybe bcs of TCL issues with me made him against me or ignoring me.Not sure who you have asked or who told you that we don't handle staff&player reports on the forums, We have prioritised them since the new year, They are all answered and handled, I've looked through the report log and you haven't seem to have ever sent one so i'd appreciate if you atleast try to report misdoing instead of shitting on the system, Since we cannot handle your reports if we do not know about them.
Your opinions are welcomed also, The only reason you will get banned is if you personally attack the person you're talking to, As in threaten them and insult them.
If you have ideas or problems send in your reports, or Forum PM a HQ member.
my philosophy of playing has been: Roleplay the best possible for each situation and give players give experiences with me. It may not change anything over the long term but it gives some people some good RP experiences. Of course I'm not the best RPer but I try my hardest to do that than pew pew all the time
Since I returned back to Argonath in 2018, my philosophy of playing has been: Roleplay the best possible for each situation and give players give experiences with me. It may not change anything over the long term but it gives some people some good RP experiences. Of course I'm not the best RPer but I try my hardest to do that than pew pew all the time. As a cop, I rather RP a situation than have a massive shootout that results in nothing. If an interesting RP ends in a shootout in a justified way then that's fine but only having shootouts is pointless.Respect for those who are trying their best. Yesterday when I logged in Argonath one person was like "Why are you complaining, this is a light rp server". And that came from a guy that drives sultans heavily armed and every day does the same boring shit. When I see people like him online, I just don't log in. This is something that disgusts me. I only log in if there are people to roleplay with.
"Why are you complaining, this is a light rp server".That doesnt mean to not roleplay at all lmao. You still are obligated to roleplay with someone who interacts with you no matter what. People only roleplay to win and dont even bother roleplaying when they know they will loose.
ok since ur all so smart, think of something that can improve the serverAha.. Maybe a Role Play School?
the suggestions board is open
Lmaook since ur all so smart, think of something that can improve the serverAha.. Maybe a Role Play School?
the suggestions board is open
I roleplay as a cop and someone decides top kidnap me or rob me because I gave him a $100 ticket for reckless driving, or when you were being pulled over for driving 1 km/h over the limit and you decide to evade, call all your friends, the pope, the us army and attack the cop who tried to pull over your splendor, the king of all criminals and meth parvenus. This is ridiculous. And it's not only about criminals, everyone does that.
What I, myself, would like to see from criminal families is a real criminal attitude. Instead of going around and killing each other or cops, focus on smuggling, business evolving, drug producing and dealing. Don't just load up in cars once you are 8+, start driving around and hunting anyone you don't like for some reason that it doesn't matter. Also, if someone did something that pisses you off and that someone is from an enemy family, simply invite them over to whatever facility you desire to use. Let them be your guest, talk to them about what they did wrong, and if you've made up your mind that they will be punished, let them know what's coming for them and why. After that, let them go safe and sound. Wondering what you did? Proper roleplay interaction without people DMing. That's how it should work. There should be some honor among thieves at least. Someone invites you over to their home for a talk, you don't bring a whole army and shoot up the place once you go there. If you invite someone, rather your enemy or not, he's under your protection and it's your duty to keep them safe. Once you let them know what they did, once they leave the area, feel free to hunt them down afterwards if you see it reasonable.I agree with everything you said, but mainly this. I've tried to interact with enemies so many times in good manners, sometimes it worked, but mostly not. I see people going after someone just because he logs in with _Tag, that's bullshit. Without even proper reasons to kill someone. Kidnapping people and killing them after they do what they say. I've had people come to kill me after I kidnapped someone and let him go after he did what I said. This has to change.
How many topics like this one have been created and nothing has changed? It's about the play to win mentality people have. Get over it for God's sake.If I had to get over the bullshit, there are 2 opportunities - either leave the server or pretend it's all good and nothing significantly happens. Thing is I don't want to leave the server or pretend nothing happens. Instead I want to push the start of that change. If you find it useless, you can give me your well-prepared opinion, why you think the change won't happen this time.
I alredy gave you my opinion. Hopefully things will change after this topic. I want a change as well, but you can't change people can you? Maybe harsh punishments will.How many topics like this one have been created and nothing has changed? It's about the play to win mentality people have. Get over it for God's sake.If I had to get over the bullshit, there are 2 opportunities - either leave the server or pretend it's all good and nothing significantly happens. Thing is I don't want to leave the server or pretend nothing happens. Instead I want to push the start of that change. If you find it useless, you can give me your well-prepared opinion, why you think the change won't happen this time.
How many topics like this one have been created and nothing has changed? It's about the play to win mentality people have. Get over it for God's sake.Change can happen. It is possible. How hard it is depends on how much people are willing to cooperate with staff and vise versa. Staff HAS to get involved by implementing and enforcing some rules regarding the quality of roleplay, and I don't mean just a 3 hour rule before returning after death. There should be an other ARUN meeting with only representatives from the groups. They should all agree on a list of rules to be implemented for the sake of roleplay, which will be represented to the HQ on a second ARUN meeting regarding this issue. Both parties should agree TOGETHER on a set of rules that are necessary and implement them.
Ye we tend to punish people but people become cry babies and continue shitting on the person who punished him even a few days later after the punishment.I alredy gave you my opinion. Hopefully things will change after this topic. I want a change as well, but you can't change people can you? Maybe harsh punishments will.How many topics like this one have been created and nothing has changed? It's about the play to win mentality people have. Get over it for God's sake.If I had to get over the bullshit, there are 2 opportunities - either leave the server or pretend it's all good and nothing significantly happens. Thing is I don't want to leave the server or pretend nothing happens. Instead I want to push the start of that change. If you find it useless, you can give me your well-prepared opinion, why you think the change won't happen this time.
I think the problem here is bigger than what ARUN can offer as solution. We need understand if people are going to change their mindset and their style of RP (or what is more suitable - a mixture of TDM and CnR) and accordingly the HQ should start implementing stricter rules regarding the quality of roleplay.This is absolutely right. HQ please just do it, do it!
Then the staff team perhaps should talk more and punish less, but stricter. I believe if something is reasonably explained to the player, there's a bigger chance he doesn't repeat the same mistake in the future and the opposite - if a staff team member punishes a player without giving him a chance to explain then there's a bigger chance that player gets pissed off and does the same thing again, just because he was mistreated.Indeed. I am pretty sure then staff does not punish people without explanation first. Unless what he did was obvious as hell and the rulebreak knows what he is doing.
Mine is neither answered and I assume not handled but can't say for sure. :) I don't mean to be offensive or critize the HQ, but I think ultimately it is up to you guys(again, nothing personal, I barely know any of the HQ members personally) to set an example. There's so many people punished for doing the same as a staff member, and staff didn't get punished. Of course the player might have done worse things but still, if we don't see how to behave, then we won't behave. If you don't want rules, then at least guidelines, for the playerbase to follow. This way you'll still have that "be whatever you want" Argonath Vibe, just better.Well, the thing is, we can't say anything to HQ(SEn Admins too) otherwise we'll end up in unban section. Yesterday a group came to rp with me and someone names with "V" came and hit me, i was on 1HP, it wasnt a accident bcs i was too away from road, i reported doggi reviewed it and closed it and didnt answer when i asked he said i didn't see anything so i can't do anything, i was going to "report" him on forums but we don't get answers of forum reports and after like 1min a man came and hit me while i was on 1hp, reported again, again ignored, i /q and was thinking that maybe bcs of TCL issues with me made him against me or ignoring me.Not sure who you have asked or who told you that we don't handle staff&player reports on the forums, We have prioritised them since the new year, They are all answered and handled, I've looked through the report log and you haven't seem to have ever sent one so i'd appreciate if you atleast try to report misdoing instead of shitting on the system, Since we cannot handle your reports if we do not know about them.
How many of these topics we've had over the years ? If I got an euro for each one, I'd be millionare. There are no changes coming, why bother ?
I agree with you bogo, please hq, we are not a light server as he said, supported..We are a light RP server.
We are a light RP server.
Being stricter has to do with cutting out the cancerous groups rather than changing the RP standards IMO.We are a light RP server.
We do are indeed, but should we continue with such standard? Are the circumstances appropriate to consider Argonath a light roleplay server or maybe it is time to get a bit more stricter.(?)
That time passed long time ago. We're no longer a light roleplay server, yet we went step back into a pokemon server basically.We are a light RP server.
We do are indeed, but should we continue with such standard? Are the circumstances appropriate to consider Argonath a light roleplay server or maybe it is time to get a bit more stricter.(?)
As a suggestion for those who never started something by themselves and want to improve, I recommend roleplaying simple things such as car crashes and things you do daily without noticing like buying furniture or clothes from the stores or just walking your dog around :D Start with simple things.
" This is a light roleplay server " is one of the excuses people use to avoid interactions. Come on, this server has been running for more than 11 years, still stuck in that mindset?Being a light roleplay server doesn’t mean you don’t need to roleplay. It just means you don’t need to specifically roleplay extending your hands and shit like that.
Being a light roleplay server doesn’t mean you don’t need to roleplay. It just means you don’t need to specifically roleplay extending your hands and shit like that.Well that's what people think. " Oh light rp server, cool, I don't have to roleplay a lot. "
And even if we did, what will happen, Marcel, all of us said yes and you r the only one who said no, this server is running for 11-12 years, so we must prove it more than it is now..Its not up to him. He is on the same possition as we are.
Something I have to say might help few players. If you're afraid of trying a Role-play, don't be, don't think it's gonna flop. Just go ahead, risk it, do it. Is it just you in a bar that you just opened? Role-play getting drunk because no one showed up.100 percent right, we are here to have fun.
Risk whatever goes in your head. If it's only kidnapping? Not all of those role-plays need to end in death or massive dm scenes. None should. Just leave the person in the woods, naked, so much you can do without shooting a gun.
Also if your brain starts thinking " They're here to kill me " every single time someone approaches you start taking it out of your head and think " Role-play " and don't just freeze in your thoughts. Make it good, make it fun. You're here to have fun not to be the best or the worst at something. You win today, you lose tomorrow. Gambling is an example, you win, you lose.
If you're in a territory that doesn't belong to you, you can act tough and everything but don't pull your gun out and start shooting. Just role-play and do it the right way.
There's things you wanna do that aren't scripted yet and they're able to be? Ask the staff, but it doesn't stop you of role-playing that thing, use your imagination. While you're in the server and you're bored search the map, look around the map, businesses, areas, find good stuff, content to role-play.
And specially stop the hunting, the server is not about hunting other players.
Stop hating OOCly.
The community is supposed to be together as one and not separated OOCly.
Do you want to hate? Be a bitch IC.
It was time that shootouts were fun.
It was time that you'd look dope by hating on someone OOCly, not anymore.
Focus on making friends OOC.
I, myself can say, I've made friends all over the world and one day I expect to meet some of them IRL by travelling.
Hate and jealousy is something you don't want to be remembered of.
Make your picture as friendly and someone that can role-play.
Invest in yourself.
Something I have to say might help few players. If you're afraid of trying a Role-play, don't be, don't think it's gonna flop. Just go ahead, risk it, do it. Is it just you in a bar that you just opened? Role-play getting drunk because no one showed up.
Risk whatever goes in your head. If it's only kidnapping? Not all of those role-plays need to end in death or massive dm scenes. None should. Just leave the person in the woods, naked, so much you can do without shooting a gun.
Also if your brain starts thinking " They're here to kill me " every single time someone approaches you start taking it out of your head and think " Role-play " and don't just freeze in your thoughts. Make it good, make it fun. You're here to have fun not to be the best or the worst at something. You win today, you lose tomorrow. Gambling is an example, you win, you lose.
If you're in a territory that doesn't belong to you, you can act tough and everything but don't pull your gun out and start shooting. Just role-play and do it the right way.
There's things you wanna do that aren't scripted yet and they're able to be? Ask the staff, but it doesn't stop you of role-playing that thing, use your imagination. While you're in the server and you're bored search the map, look around the map, businesses, areas, find good stuff, content to role-play.
And specially stop the hunting, the server is not about hunting other players.
Stop hating OOCly.
The community is supposed to be together as one and not separated OOCly.
Do you want to hate? Be a bitch IC.
It was time that shootouts were fun.
It was time that you'd look dope by hating on someone OOCly, not anymore.
Focus on making friends OOC.
I, myself can say, I've made friends all over the world and one day I expect to meet some of them IRL by travelling.
Hate and jealousy is something you don't want to be remembered of.
Make your picture as friendly and someone that can role-play.
Invest in yourself.
Your word were everything as well and everyone should look it up.
I remember when we first started being friends we were in Savastano together until the last minute. Even that we aren't in the same family now, we're still friends and greet each other and that's what I'm proud of. :bananarock:
Stop hating OOCly.
The community is supposed to be together as one and not separated OOCly.
Do you want to hate? Be a bitch IC.
It was time that shootouts were fun.
It was time that you'd look dope by hating on someone OOCly, not anymore.
Focus on making friends OOC.
I, myself can say, I've made friends all over the world and one day I expect to meet some of them IRL by travelling.
Hate and jealousy is something you don't want to be remembered of.
Make your picture as friendly and someone that can role-play.
Invest in yourself.
Bogo did you even realise that you hurt people too because of your own fun? Do you remember Trapani, whole argonath was against us, it's still now, You hevar and few more people used to troll 24/7, why? because BENNZY IS RICH. BENNZY IS RICH thats why Trapani should not grow, it should die, well after Trapani got closed, once he tried to own Bone county, because it was dead tried to do something special with it but people made trapani the target that trapanis owns that owns this, but none sees other people who got more properties than trapanim i thought if there wont be bennzy in trapani then there wont be any hate for trapani, but unfortunately trapani was dependent on him that's why he was a trapani, well now everyone will say im his cousin thats why saying this, but still truth doesn't changes.First of all, I was mocking Trapani, because they bought huge amount of properties and all they did was grinding meth 24/7. This is a well known fact. However things started to change in 2018 and people admit it now. Bennzy started actually caring about roleplay and if he creates something special and unique, he'll have my respect.
Change yourself then ask for a change.
First you open a group then look for a office for it, u cant rp in other's office and say it is mine. He bought the properties after he won 7m from viktor and Trapani was planning to do something unique at BC(AoD was dead at that time), so we thought we'll do everything smoothly and peacefully but everyone started hating Trapani, you trust or not, when Trapani was around it was the most hatest family of argo and u used to hate Trapani more than any other family like gv, cm sforza, bla bla bla.Bogo did you even realise that you hurt people too because of your own fun? Do you remember Trapani, whole argonath was against us, it's still now, You hevar and few more people used to troll 24/7, why? because BENNZY IS RICH. BENNZY IS RICH thats why Trapani should not grow, it should die, well after Trapani got closed, once he tried to own Bone county, because it was dead tried to do something special with it but people made trapani the target that trapanis owns that owns this, but none sees other people who got more properties than trapanim i thought if there wont be bennzy in trapani then there wont be any hate for trapani, but unfortunately trapani was dependent on him that's why he was a trapani, well now everyone will say im his cousin thats why saying this, but still truth doesn't changes.First of all, I was mocking Trapani, because they bought huge amount of properties and all they did was grinding meth 24/7. This is a well known fact. However things started to change in 2018 and people admit it now. Bennzy started actually caring about roleplay and if he creates something special and unique, he'll have my respect.
Change yourself then ask for a change.
Just because I made a few jokes about Trapani, doesn't mean I have anything against them. It's all OOC fun, the same way I talk that Gvardia are dmers, Corleone too, SAPD are corrupt, etc (if I have a problem with someone, I just report it). It's all a friendly banter. If you say a joke about me, I won't cry 1 day, I'll either roast you with another joke or laugh with you.
Differ OOC and IC and it'll be all good.
It would be good if I get my answers as soon as possible.
Also adding the cancerous factions does not help too. Argonath allow anyone to open their thing without any rule.
Just because someone rps a robbery constanty, kidnappimg or whatever, doesnt meann the rules should change, everything is one in a roleplay manner.Yes, that's why I started the topic actually. Because there's no limit on this. Same people do the same kidnappings and robberies on daily basis and there's no rule stopping them. I think that's shit.
Because of these types of few families, people check player list on the client first and then login or don't because they are scared of them and they know if they'll login, that XXX group will kill/kidnap him.Just because someone rps a robbery constanty, kidnappimg or whatever, doesnt meann the rules should change, everything is one in a roleplay manner.Yes, that's why I started the topic actually. Because there's no limit on this. Same people do the same kidnappings and robberies on daily basis and there's no rule stopping them. I think that's shit.
I'm not being sensitive, I'm trying to raise the standards of roleplay. If you feel offended by this then you're probably one of the people this topic is about.
Because of these types of few families, people check player list on the client first and then login or don't because they are scared of them and they know if they'll login, that XXX group will kill/kidnap him.Just because someone rps a robbery constanty, kidnappimg or whatever, doesnt meann the rules should change, everything is one in a roleplay manner.Yes, that's why I started the topic actually. Because there's no limit on this. Same people do the same kidnappings and robberies on daily basis and there's no rule stopping them. I think that's shit.
I'm not being sensitive, I'm trying to raise the standards of roleplay. If you feel offended by this then you're probably one of the people this topic is about.
Many people do, before when my name used to be "Ben Alone", i used to work for Aiden Scotto, because of that i used to get kidnapped/robbed more than 3 times a day daily, when someone sees me from group XXX he calls his members/associates, kidnaps me and kills me, i was like ALONE so didn't try to get revenge and admins also said that "THEY ARE RPING".Because of these types of few families, people check player list on the client first and then login or don't because they are scared of them and they know if they'll login, that XXX group will kill/kidnap him.Just because someone rps a robbery constanty, kidnappimg or whatever, doesnt meann the rules should change, everything is one in a roleplay manner.Yes, that's why I started the topic actually. Because there's no limit on this. Same people do the same kidnappings and robberies on daily basis and there's no rule stopping them. I think that's shit.
I'm not being sensitive, I'm trying to raise the standards of roleplay. If you feel offended by this then you're probably one of the people this topic is about.
Yes, that's totally true. I first check who's online and then join.
Bogomil(8) looks around.
PM from [tcl]imam(3): I will be RPing as manager, I would /do the casheir
Cashier: Welcome to the restaurant! ([tcl]imam(3))
Bogomil(8) says: Hello there !
Cashier says: What do you need sir? ([tcl]imam(3))
Bogomil(8) says: Uhm, can I have the menu as a start?
Bogomil would notices the list of menu on the table. ([tcl]imam(3))
Animation applied.
Bogomil(8) opens the menu and looks inside.
what would bogomil see (Bogomil(8))
Foods: Burger, Sandwich, Pizza. ([tcl]imam(3))
Drinks: hampagne, beer, sprunk, cola. ([tcl]imam(3))
Bogomil(8) says: Ai'ght.
Bogomil(8) says: I'll have Burger, sandwich and pizza with two beers.
Cashier says: Alright, you may take a seat. ([tcl]imam(3))
Bogomil(8) is already sitting.
[tcl]imam(3) starts taking the ingredients below the table.
ADVERTISEMENT: Temple Restaurant is open! Come and get yourslef filled!{FFA500}, contact [tcl]imam(Phone: 1221)
There would be bread, vegetable, roasts, cheese. ([tcl]imam(3))
[tcl]imam(3) places the grilled bread on the plate.
Bogomil(8) looks at the pictures on the wall.
Bogomil(8) says: I've been there !
Bogomil(8) says: That's in Bone County.
[tcl]imam(3) says: You don't drink?
[tcl]imam(3) looks at the picture.
[tcl]imam(3) says: I see.
[tcl]imam(3) places the plate on the table.
Bogomil(8) says: I ordered two beers.
[tcl]imam(3) says: Oh my bad.
[tcl]imam(3) notices two individuals.
*Matt Corleonesi and Aiden Corleone come in the restaurant*
Bogomil(8) slides the plate towards him.
[tcl]imam(3) steps backward, having a surprised expression.
[tcl]imam(3) says: Ye.... yeah.
Bogomil(8) won't start eating without his beer.
[tcl]imam(3) eyes the firearms.
[tcl]imam(3) says: What both of you want to do here?
[tcl]imam(3) says: No.
Aiden_Corleone(0) says [italian accent]: I see.
Aiden_Corleone(0) says [italian accent]: Maybe its time someone shows you.
[TCL]Matt_Corleonesi(4) looks around.
Bogomil(8) stands up.
[08:39:26] Animation canceled.
Aiden_Corleone(0) attempts to grab Imam's shirt collar.
Bogomil(8) runs away.
(to summarize - me and Imam were having a nice rp and suddenly two armed people come inside with the intention to rob)
^ This is what I'm talking about. I usually don't mind roleplaying a robbery, but hey...same people are doing same things over and over again...this getting way too much. That is the criminal mentality I was talking about. Some people need to act like criminals absolutely reckless and foolish 24/7. I can't understand this mentality. If you want to be a criminal, do it in a proper way. Aiden and Matt did the same thing a week ago, getting mad over a $100 bill in the restaurant and decided to rob everyone so we can all see how powerful they are.
[08:47:34] PM to Aiden_Corleone(0): what
[08:47:45] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): I told imam to open up a restaurant
[08:48:10] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): Cause we wanted to RP something
[08:48:25] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): And its shit when we Role Play with the walls
[08:48:33] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): So I would either have someone to RP with..
[08:48:35] PM to Aiden_Corleone(0): this is not how you roleplay
[08:48:52] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): Its morning, there are only 5 players who are willing to RP
[08:49:16] PM to Aiden_Corleone(0): and?
[08:49:17] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): I know that this is not the actual way how we should do it
[08:49:21] PM to Aiden_Corleone(0): why even involving guns?
[08:49:35] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): Why not?
[08:49:42] PM to Aiden_Corleone(0): talk is over lol
[08:49:44] You have disabled incoming private messages.
I prefer being a criminal in the right way and I call the situation above powergaming, even though some might disagree. This is far from reality.
So what that they will kidnap him? Cant he roleplay being kidnapped or something? Or people are here only to kidnapp people and not be kidnapped. Get rid of the play to win mentallity because is fucked up.Because of these types of few families, people check player list on the client first and then login or don't because they are scared of them and they know if they'll login, that XXX group will kill/kidnap him.Just because someone rps a robbery constanty, kidnappimg or whatever, doesnt meann the rules should change, everything is one in a roleplay manner.Yes, that's why I started the topic actually. Because there's no limit on this. Same people do the same kidnappings and robberies on daily basis and there's no rule stopping them. I think that's shit.
I'm not being sensitive, I'm trying to raise the standards of roleplay. If you feel offended by this then you're probably one of the people this topic is about.
"Powergaming" "Far From reality" "Using guns" "criminal mentality"Bogomil(8) looks around.
PM from [tcl]imam(3): I will be RPing as manager, I would /do the casheir
Cashier: Welcome to the restaurant! ([tcl]imam(3))
Bogomil(8) says: Hello there !
Cashier says: What do you need sir? ([tcl]imam(3))
Bogomil(8) says: Uhm, can I have the menu as a start?
Bogomil would notices the list of menu on the table. ([tcl]imam(3))
Animation applied.
Bogomil(8) opens the menu and looks inside.
what would bogomil see (Bogomil(8))
Foods: Burger, Sandwich, Pizza. ([tcl]imam(3))
Drinks: hampagne, beer, sprunk, cola. ([tcl]imam(3))
Bogomil(8) says: Ai'ght.
Bogomil(8) says: I'll have Burger, sandwich and pizza with two beers.
Cashier says: Alright, you may take a seat. ([tcl]imam(3))
Bogomil(8) is already sitting.
[tcl]imam(3) starts taking the ingredients below the table.
ADVERTISEMENT: Temple Restaurant is open! Come and get yourslef filled!{FFA500}, contact [tcl]imam(Phone: 1221)
There would be bread, vegetable, roasts, cheese. ([tcl]imam(3))
[tcl]imam(3) places the grilled bread on the plate.
Bogomil(8) looks at the pictures on the wall.
Bogomil(8) says: I've been there !
Bogomil(8) says: That's in Bone County.
[tcl]imam(3) says: You don't drink?
[tcl]imam(3) looks at the picture.
[tcl]imam(3) says: I see.
[tcl]imam(3) places the plate on the table.
Bogomil(8) says: I ordered two beers.
[tcl]imam(3) says: Oh my bad.
[tcl]imam(3) notices two individuals.
*Matt Corleonesi and Aiden Corleone come in the restaurant*
Bogomil(8) slides the plate towards him.
[tcl]imam(3) steps backward, having a surprised expression.
[tcl]imam(3) says: Ye.... yeah.
Bogomil(8) won't start eating without his beer.
[tcl]imam(3) eyes the firearms.
[tcl]imam(3) says: What both of you want to do here?
[tcl]imam(3) says: No.
Aiden_Corleone(0) says [italian accent]: I see.
Aiden_Corleone(0) says [italian accent]: Maybe its time someone shows you.
[TCL]Matt_Corleonesi(4) looks around.
Bogomil(8) stands up.
[08:39:26] Animation canceled.
Aiden_Corleone(0) attempts to grab Imam's shirt collar.
Bogomil(8) runs away.
(to summarize - me and Imam were having a nice rp and suddenly two armed people come inside with the intention to rob)
^ This is what I'm talking about. I usually don't mind roleplaying a robbery, but hey...same people are doing same things over and over again...this getting way too much. That is the criminal mentality I was talking about. Some people need to act like criminals absolutely reckless and foolish 24/7. I can't understand this mentality. If you want to be a criminal, do it in a proper way. Aiden and Matt did the same thing a week ago, getting mad over a $100 bill in the restaurant and decided to rob everyone so we can all see how powerful they are.
[08:47:34] PM to Aiden_Corleone(0): what
[08:47:45] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): I told imam to open up a restaurant
[08:48:10] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): Cause we wanted to RP something
[08:48:25] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): And its shit when we Role Play with the walls
[08:48:33] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): So I would either have someone to RP with..
[08:48:35] PM to Aiden_Corleone(0): this is not how you roleplay
[08:48:52] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): Its morning, there are only 5 players who are willing to RP
[08:49:16] PM to Aiden_Corleone(0): and?
[08:49:17] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): I know that this is not the actual way how we should do it
[08:49:21] PM to Aiden_Corleone(0): why even involving guns?
[08:49:35] PM from Aiden_Corleone(0): Why not?
[08:49:42] PM to Aiden_Corleone(0): talk is over lol
[08:49:44] You have disabled incoming private messages.
I prefer being a criminal in the right way and I call the situation above powergaming, even though some might disagree. This is far from reality.
People have to stop being a pain in the ass during a roleplay they do not like and learn how to deal with it. And people should get rid of the toxicity after a roleplay finishes. Main chat is made to chat not to throw shit on someones roleplay. Grow the f**k up.
Why should they get kidnapped in first place? You need a damn solid roleplay reason to rob or kidnap.Yeah man, all the thieves hate their victim, that's a damn solid reason to rob them. I know this isn't a server-wide known rule, but if you comply with the person robbing you, then him killing you is DM.
- We should allow for people to refuse being taken in to the same scenario on every step they take (for instance robbing, traffic controls).
We must encourage people to roleplay at all times, and if people are clearly not present to roleplay we can take measures. However it is impossible to oblige people to roleplay in every situation.
Please keep any changes to rules enforceable.
Just find someone else to play with...why interact with someone who is not interested?The point is being more strict about it. If players really do like the server, I don't see any of them leaving it because they are being told to roleplay. However if they have this thing in their head that makes them believe that they don't have to roleplay whenever they feel like it, a punishment or two will change this behaviour.
If they continue even after being punished a few times, thenif they aren't interested they should be removed from the server
I would like to suggest adding a new rule - robberies or kidnappings to be allowed once per three days and under strict roleplay reasons.This would actually make a change.
I would like to suggest adding a new rule - robberies or kidnappings to be allowed once per three days and under strict roleplay reasons.Yeee in a light RP server....sure. IDK why people keep asking for strict rules when Argonath is considered a light RP server. Everyone does that, most of the rules and understandings of RP are of a medium RP-like server. When Argonath is considered a light one...that bugs me of the most. Accept that it's a light RP and don't expect top notch RP from everyone and perfect describing of things.
no it wouldn'tI would like to suggest adding a new rule - robberies or kidnappings to be allowed once per three days and under strict roleplay reasons.This would actually make a change.
I would like to suggest adding a new rule - robberies or kidnappings to be allowed once per three days and under strict roleplay reasons.Yeee in a light RP server....sure. IDK why people keep asking for strict rules when Argonath is considered a light RP server. Everyone does that, most of the rules and understandings of RP are of a medium RP-like server. When Argonath is considered a light one...that bugs me of the most. Accept that it's a light RP and don't expect top notch RP from everyone and perfect describing of things.
That's what's wrong, not the fact that nobody wants to RP or their RP is poor or people create shitty reasons to rob/kill..
We can't have high RP requirement when the server itself isn't...
look up "strict rp servers samp" in google and go there instead of moaning that there is no rules here, because there are. if you kill someone without a good enough rp reason, you will be punished, and that's from experience.no it wouldn'tI would like to suggest adding a new rule - robberies or kidnappings to be allowed once per three days and under strict roleplay reasons.This would actually make a change.
look up "strict rp servers samp" in google and go there instead of moaning that there is no rules here, because there are. if you kill someone without a good enough rp reason, you will be punished, and that's from experience.no it wouldn'tI would like to suggest adding a new rule - robberies or kidnappings to be allowed once per three days and under strict roleplay reasons.This would actually make a change.
why not make it 1 day gang rule? people cry too often and cry if you come back 5 minutes before 3 hours over, make it 24 hours and boom
not only this, but i'd like everyone to discuss what they'd like to see regarding the "rp's" between the gangs/mafias.
By this, instead of having 3 hours from interacting, why not make it 24 hours?
/DISCUSS
You're right here, thing is server's RP level went to the biggest down hill it was ever in, at least since I'm here and it's not related to rules or anything some stuff are just logical it's understandable that you shouldn't rob the same person daily or kidnap him daily for pathetic reasons. some rules shouldn't be written to be obeyed. light roleplay doesn't mean it's more tending into shooting then roleplay. light RP comes in more of a script wise such as jail is 200 seconds and not days like in other RP servers and other examples. light RP doesn't mean you can poorly RP and get away with in low roleplay is a punishment as well because there are some standards that we should keep or else the server will fall even more till it becomes a TDM server.
I am not saying we should stay light RP, I am saying WE ARE in a light RP server. None of us are the owner and we can't change that. And if you can't find a person that have your "roleplay requirements" it certainly isn't the server's fault nor the rules one...not yours. It's just how people are in Argonath, and if by any reason there is a change in the RP standards (not only rules but overall change) it would turn into a different server, nobody knows what will happen, you will like it, others will hate it and so on.
You're right here, thing is server's RP level went to the biggest down hill it was ever in, at least since I'm here and it's not related to rules or anything some stuff are just logical it's understandable that you shouldn't rob the same person daily or kidnap him daily for pathetic reasons. some rules shouldn't be written to be obeyed. light roleplay doesn't mean it's more tending into shooting then roleplay. light RP comes in more of a script wise such as jail is 200 seconds and not days like in other RP servers and other examples. light RP doesn't mean you can poorly RP and get away with in low roleplay is a punishment as well because there are some standards that we should keep or else the server will fall even more till it becomes a TDM server.
Why then people get away with low RP? The RP standards went downhill because it was allowed.....people understand RP differently. It is understandable for you and me that we shouldn't rob the same person daily, but for others it's totally normal and as long as you get away with doing it, why not do it? For example, if you get caught for robbing a bank but you are not punished, why not do it again...
And no light RP isn't more of script wise thing (might be wrong, that's my understanding of light RP) it's just there isn't so many strict rules about roleplaying and has more of a free feel to it. Like the whole exit int thing, spawn wherever you want, blips and so on.
I agree here, we have a saying in Bulgarian "One bird can't make autumn happen"spring* :D
I agree here, we have a saying in Bulgarian "One bird can't make autumn happen" Even if you bring your top notch RP and the other guy is just straight not RPing..you can't do much.Definitely, I know some people lack knowledge in roleplay but that's because they interact with the wrong people I observed new players over coming veteran roleplay skills with the right interactions and people. and the fact there are people and even veterans that are pushing people into the wrong direction is out of the " It's allowed" thing. poor RP was never allowed but some how the whole meaning of low RP went even lower and now low RP is considered just shooting with out a word. you can end up killing some one in less than 4 sentences when before not only you wouldn't search for a quick kill. even a quick kill would take at least 20 minutes.
Agreed about the whole poor RP thing with you, and that's the only way to get back to some RP standard.
lol ye LMAO :D I just like autumnI agree here, we have a saying in Bulgarian "One bird can't make autumn happen"spring* :D
This is more of a free roam server with fewer scripts than a light RP. Also, light RP doesn't mean no RP.Agreed.
This is more of a free roam server with fewer scripts than a light RP. Also, light RP doesn't mean no RP.
pull the plug.
Very, very well said. To summarize - if everyone starts investing time in roleplaying everyday life things, the atmosphere will improve and once that happens your way of looking at roleplay will change as well. However I still think there are people who understand this and do nothing about it. Indeed if that doesn't work we'll have topull the plug.
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Very, very well said. To summarize - if everyone starts investing time in roleplaying everyday life things, the atmosphere will improve and once that happens your way of looking at roleplay will change as well. However I still think there are people who understand this and do nothing about it. Indeed if that doesn't work we'll have topull the plug.
That's why my proposal is to create an actual Discord group and topic for this, both titled "Argonath's server-wide scenario", with labeled businesses and groups. People like you and I, that hope for a better roleplaying atmosphere, can start off by giving example of how this works. My newest group owns a restaurant that Im willing to run. Im inviting @Sforza Enterprises, @Gvardia Corporation and @Corleone to join in aswell, as groups that right now seem to have people within them that look forward to the same as I. I invite you to tell me what specific things your group would like to do/run that would have the rest of the server engaging in interaction with you. Once we know that, we can distribute things up. For example, Sforza can run a restaurant, Gvardia can run a club, Corleone can run a gym, disregard the properties they already own, what business are they willing to invest into 24/7? That's what Im talking about. Of course you'll have your own groups inner RP that doesn't involve the rest of the server, but there must be something that gives you contact with the rest of the community, besides script-based businesses, like selling guns.
We'd then have to find business owners that want to participate aswell, or run our own as for the rest of the groups to interact with. It's not as simple as posting a topic in the Business or Groups and Families section because that's pointless attention. We have to make this work in game, not in the forums.
+1
I'm interested in helping aswell.
+1
Im counting you in. Im actually writing down a list right now with the names of those that might be interested so why don't you interested guys reply to this topic so that I contact you? Thanks.
I'm interested in helping aswell.
I suggest you use the already existing ARUN discord.
It's @Khm. Will ask him to PM you on the forums.I suggest you use the already existing ARUN discord.
If anyone who manages that discord server can hit me up on private message, I'd appreciate it.
If there's quality roleplay, there's Whiteman.
If there's quality roleplay, there's Whiteman.
Either way leave competition between restaurants or any other businesses on the table - because if competition is been taken nothing but IC it will only improve both business's motivation and progress.
If ARUN can help with Mobius his idea, we are open for discussion. I personally like the idea, and a collective effort is needed. But do assure that the Vision made at the creation of this server is respected.
A new discord server can be made or an existing can be used. I am open for discussion to help set it up.
I can forward any inquiry directly to the Council if needed.
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The point is there aren't any strict roleplay rules. There are rules that say avoiding rp, and metagaming/powergaming aren't allowed, but that's all. We need stricter rules.Stricter rules, sure, I'd say stricter punishments though, but the complaining about them will start.. We just gotta enforce the rules we already have first, a lot of the staff members look uneducated when it comes to that. I don't know if admins get trained but like, we need to give them guidelines and rules and history and quotes and everything, like a 300 page word document to learn.
But we already have metagaming rules, and powergaming rules. They are worded differently and admins don't enforce them. Basically, we need to somehow know it. We can't use /gm to call for backup as it's OOC chat. We need to find the information ICly.
Also you can't "force RP", so I can't say "Stivi punches you, you fall to your death and then Stivi jumps away to another block with his super powers". Yet, MG and PG don't exist here.
Count me in too @Mobius , my rp isn't good that much, but i'll give my best to financially if needed.
@Mobius Let us know when the plan for this server-wide scenario reaches the stage where it can be started. If the proposal is a quality one, you can count on script support within the reasonably possible.
If ARUN can help with Mobius his idea, we are open for discussion. I personally like the idea, and a collective effort is needed. But do assure that the Vision made at the creation of this server is respected.
A new discord server can be made or an existing can be used. I am open for discussion to help set it up.
I can forward any inquiry directly to the Council if needed.
Dear ARUN;.
- I'd suggest we create a new discord server that's still monitored by ARUN, with moderator rights given to them.
- This campaign should be sponsored in game with periodical chat text popping up, just like its done with forum links and stuff. The message should summarise the idea: "The campaign to make a server-wide scenario has started! More info at [topic link].
- The topic made for this purpose would have an open invitation link to the Discord server, aswell as a whole description of the project.
- We'll make a team to lead the campaign, as of now Im counting Bogomil, Miki, Henry and Kacper in, they shall withdraw If they want to.
- I'll make sure we follow the Vision, which I've never betrayed myself.
I'm down as long as we keep ARUN out. The current structure and way it works does nothing but actually damage groups and the community. Otherwise, you know I'm right behind ya Mob.Let's see if ARUN is going to change this time. Perhaps they need someone to tell them what needs to be done :D
Instead of complaining how bad ARUN is, why not suggest things that can improve it instead?We already suggested everything to be transparent and people to focus more on suggesting roleplay ideas rather than requesting scripts for their groups. I personally made tons of suggestions, which were neglected by the one-sided leadership of Sforza in ARUN (that's the truth, don't take it personally). However I'm still here to discuss everything and if ARUN thinks they're ready to listen everyone, I'll be glad to present for tenth time my ideas.
Quit the bs, I'm the only person in councils+ from Sforza.Instead of complaining how bad ARUN is, why not suggest things that can improve it instead?We already suggested everything to be transparent and people to focus more on suggesting roleplay ideas rather than requesting scripts for their groups. I personally made tons of suggestions, which were neglected by the one-sided leadership of Sforza in ARUN (that's the truth, don't take it personally). However I'm still here to discuss everything and if ARUN thinks they're ready to listen everyone, I'll be glad to present for tenth time my ideas.
Instead of complaining how bad ARUN is, why not suggest things that can improve it instead?We already suggested everything to be transparent and people to focus more on suggesting roleplay ideas rather than requesting scripts for their groups. I personally made tons of suggestions, which were neglected by the one-sided leadership of Sforza in ARUN (that's the truth, don't take it personally). However I'm still here to discuss everything and if ARUN thinks they're ready to listen everyone, I'll be glad to present for tenth time my ideas.
The fact you already suggested things to improve ARUN does not mean you can then go around the forums claiming it's all bad. If you really want the community to improve, start by improving your own attitude towards other people and their opinions.Well everything I say is based on things I witnessed. I don't want to force my opinion, I only want to see the start of the change or at least the start of discussion. Mobius is a great example of what I'm trying to provoke in everyone.
Quit the bs, I'm the only person in councils+ from Sforza.If we're going to disclose anything you're definitely not in a good position here. However I suggest if you want to continue the discussion to continue it in a proper manner.
Don't push me to disclose everything you and your pals wrote on ARUN to the public.
Let's see if ARUN is going to change this time. Perhaps they need someone to tell them what needs to be done :D
Quit the bs, I'm the only person in councils+ from Sforza.
Don't push me to disclose everything you and your pals wrote on ARUN to the public.
From the point of a normal player, Arun did nothing much to alter the quality of rp. It remained mostly the same except the fact that groups became much more supportive of roleplay among high ranking members.There was a system being worked on for "normal" players that are noticed on the server by being a good contributor to the roleplay with a real intention of improvements but unfortunately this is the period of exams for me and there are few issues with the staff team these days that most likely will not be solved which I will share them at a later time when I see best.
If Arun wants to work for altering roleplay, it needs to involve normal players aswell.
Ask the ones who are active (mainly Brian and Bengt) and not those who showed up just few weeks ago, they obviously have a lot to catch up to with the 6 months+ inactivity period.Let's see if ARUN is going to change this time. Perhaps they need someone to tell them what needs to be done :D
I've told them, I've spend hours working on suggestions and posting them. Still haven't received feedback. Despite leaving ARUN and later closing AOD down, I still believe that I should receive some feedback from HQ.
ARUN's job is to "forward ideas toward HQ for review". I've discussed it with a few members of the mentioned "HQ" and none of the ideas were even brought up to them. My group were to be punished for something that happened outside of Argonath, but it took them ages to decide how to punish us.
When I speak against ARUN I do not do it just to throw shit around and slow down progress, quite the contrary. I'm just saying that it won't work through them because I've seen how it works. That's all.Quit the bs, I'm the only person in councils+ from Sforza.
Don't push me to disclose everything you and your pals wrote on ARUN to the public.
Please do that, nothing that me or Bogo have said on ARUN meetings/Discord can be shared with the public, I will be glad to "disclose" the reasons I had behind any of the things I said. :)
If we want change we gotta start working on it, not planning it, not "reviewing ideas" or whatever. Get in game, roleplay - set an example. You don't need scripts, you don't need groups - there's enough people to do it with. The only thing we need is regulations and rules on Roleplay(such as AOD's main idea which was not reviewed by ARUN).
There was a system being worked on for "normal" players that are noticed on the server by being a good contributor to the roleplay with a real intention of improvements but unfortunately this is the period of exams for me and there are few issues with the staff team these days that most likely will not be solved which I will share them at a later time when I see best.
For the simple reason, I cannot tell you the progress of scripts until developers actually want to, there are a lot of things that are being worked on and we've all agreed to not show them until when it's the right time. You not seeing it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.In the last meeting I attended, I represented AoD and TCL. I presented the idea that me and Alfred Corleone had, creating a video tutorial to show the players what they're allowed to do and what they aren't. My second idea was about the properties held by inactive people.
So, what has changed since April? No one even opens the discussion about reviewing the current rules of Argonath. People still come online once per two months to pay their taxes and then go offline, holding very attractive properties.
to summarize:
Meanwhile, in February, I suggested randomizing foreclosure or any type of script to put an end of that greed for properties
I suggested reform in the government system
I suggested reviewing the rules, because some of them are out of date, especially those for gang wars and PG
I suggested helpers to teach the new players how to roleplay, instead of only answering questions
I suggested creating a tutorial for the new players
and more, and more... the list is very long
Many of my ideas had a positive vote. The question is what are you doing about this, Khm? Because great power comes with great responsibilities. I really believe you did/are doing something positive, but why nothing is transparent? I really would like to see the progress of ARUN, to see how our ideas are being developed.
There was a system being worked on for "normal" players that are noticed on the server by being a good contributor to the roleplay with a real intention of improvements but unfortunately this is the period of exams for me and there are few issues with the staff team these days that most likely will not be solved which I will share them at a later time when I see best.
I'll say it really simple - if one community isn't progressing there are possibly two factors that might be the reason of that - bureaucratic model of leadership or lack of interest...or both.
However, speaking of developing the roleplay in the server, I want to mention two people who in my opinion are very helpful and capable of leading that change - @Pete and @Miki. I've witnessed their dedication and I think their type of mindset is what we need as a change.
Every veteran needs to be an example to the new players and in the same time keep the atmosphere friendly.
Enforce Firstname_Lastname. We are a roleplay server. Not a "protect the pressident" server. We need to start looking more as a roleplay server. We need to start working on implementing roleplay standarts.Definitely agreed.
Enforce Firstname_Lastname. We are a roleplay server. Not a "protect the pressident" server. We need to start looking more as a roleplay server. We need to start working on implementing roleplay standarts.Agreed, we should use a firstname_lastname since most roleplay servers force you to have it, and in real life you don't have only a Firstname.
Enforce Firstname_Lastname. We are a roleplay server. Not a "protect the pressident" server. We need to start looking more as a roleplay server. We need to start working on implementing roleplay standarts.
Enforce Firstname_Lastname. We are a roleplay server. Not a "protect the pressident" server. We need to start looking more as a roleplay server. We need to start working on implementing roleplay standarts.How will that help in anything? I'd say put a rule on shit names like xXTrollShooterXx
Enforce Firstname_Lastname. We are a roleplay server. Not a "protect the pressident" server. We need to start looking more as a roleplay server. We need to start working on implementing roleplay standarts.Actually, It won't help the server by anyway, we can just pick virtual names to RP with in the server. and I agree with Khm, Put a rule on shit/troll names
I'd say put a rule on shit names like xXTrollShooterXxYes, forbidding the troll names would be a great way to start.
Roleplay in the server isn't that much good, since people are trying their best to make all rp ends with shootout which (in my opinion) isn't funny at all. I spent a month in the server and all rps I had seen or rp'ed ended with shootout. I didn't like that so now I don't usually RP, I mostly drive around the city, RP with cops since they know how to RP well. But some of them doesn't but I know who to RP with.Well, first we should change our mindset. I can see some people are still trying to avoid RP and I'm confused, for example is when you are trying to interact with them but the person keeps jumping around and do not care about our RP
Actually, It won't help the server by anyway.
And if the interaction was to kidnap or rob someone then of course he would not give a fuck.Roleplay in the server isn't that much good, since people are trying their best to make all rp ends with shootout which (in my opinion) isn't funny at all. I spent a month in the server and all rps I had seen or rp'ed ended with shootout. I didn't like that so now I don't usually RP, I mostly drive around the city, RP with cops since they know how to RP well. But some of them doesn't but I know who to RP with.Well, first we should change our mindset. I can see some people are still trying to avoid RP and I'm confused, for example is when you are trying to interact with them but the person keeps jumping around and do not care about our RP
Actually, It won't help the server by anyway.
And if the interaction was to kidnap or rob someone then of course he would not give a fuck.Roleplay in the server isn't that much good, since people are trying their best to make all rp ends with shootout which (in my opinion) isn't funny at all. I spent a month in the server and all rps I had seen or rp'ed ended with shootout. I didn't like that so now I don't usually RP, I mostly drive around the city, RP with cops since they know how to RP well. But some of them doesn't but I know who to RP with.Well, first we should change our mindset. I can see some people are still trying to avoid RP and I'm confused, for example is when you are trying to interact with them but the person keeps jumping around and do not care about our RP
Actually, It won't help the server by anyway.
Roleplay in the server isn't that much good, since people are trying their best to make all rp ends with shootout which (in my opinion) isn't funny at all. I spent a month in the server and all rps I had seen or rp'ed ended with shootout. I didn't like that so now I don't usually RP, I mostly drive around the city, RP with cops since they know how to RP well. But some of them doesn't but I know who to RP with.I am sorry that you've experienced only that type of roleplay, I wish I was active enough with my friends to show you what Argonath veterans are actually capable of, scenarios and actions that you don't even see on popular roleplay servers.
So, I think we said enough. Now I would like to request a transparent report from the HQ posted on this topic about the changes that were made, about the changes that are going to be made and a summarized statement about the roleplay direction and the future of the server. The end of the month is a good deadline for that.What will happen if they don't post by the end of the month?
they will, our HQ is professional
Me too.they will, our HQ is professionalI want to see this.
they will, our HQ is professionalHopefully.
Enforce Firstname_Lastname. We are a roleplay server. Not a "protect the pressident" server. We need to start looking more as a roleplay server. We need to start working on implementing roleplay standarts.If change is what Argonath wants.. start from this.
and also start focusing on what the new player sees at first, make it attractive, think it out like an advertising company, like one of those free to play games that have you mad at first with making it easy at the beginning.Enforce Firstname_Lastname. We are a roleplay server. Not a "protect the pressident" server. We need to start looking more as a roleplay server. We need to start working on implementing roleplay standarts.If change is what Argonath wants.. start from this.
The real change will arrive with players taking their asses up and giving an example to new players and semi new ones, beyond only helpers because helper is only a title to me - every veteran should help. some helpers even fight with new players and shit like this around so common guys you want a change it should start from each and one of us.
Enforcing Firstname_Lastname won't make you better Roleplayers. Try something else. :)It wont. But like Bruce said, we need to have role play standarts since this is a Role Play server. Having an appropriate name is Rule no. 1 afaik
Voting is officially closed now.You should say this to current active FAMILIES, these days i only see WARS, too many these days and idk from where they find those weird reasons :P
Are you satisfied with the quality of the roleplay in Argonath?
Yes, I think it's all good. ---------------------------------------- 9 (7.5%)
Yes, but there is room for improvement. ---------------------- 21 (17.5%)
No, but nothing can be done. ---------------------------------- 24 (20%)
No, and I'm ready for a change - starting from myself ------66 (55%)
Total Members Voted: 120
Voting closed: Today at 05:06:08 pm
Good news is 66 people are ready for the change. Bad news is 75% don't like the current situation of the server and there needs to be a change as soon as possible. I've been told that its being worked on improving the rules already, so let's hope the deadline is being followed and we actually see change until the next Thursday.
For the next week, I want to ask everyone reading this, find some time for roleplay in game. Don't go to fuck around and instead organize something. Show that you're ready for the change. Take it as a challenge or anything you wish, but don't fuck around in Argonath for one week. It might be more important week than you think it would be.