Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Legolas on January 07, 2009, 02:23:00 am
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So who's a roleplayer? Thats should be simple question... But lets say it stright, 90% of this community (SAMP). People active on forums and server. Have NO idea how to roleplay, whats an roleplay. Last days you could notice topic like "The RP is dying out!Ahh ". And many many other posts, with complains about bad roleplay etc, etc. And from sercond hand, topics like "Rate the RP of the person above you!". 611 replies, 3807 views... and what? great roleplayer 10/10, 9/10... i dont know you but 7/10... Its total bulshit. So we all are great roleplayers, but there is no roleplay on server and is dying out? 1337 roleplayers and no roleplay. Total parody.
Lets se, we have multiple scripts that helps in roleplay, helps earn money (bizz propertys). And we have "old SAMP roleplayer" who have everythin... house, business, car... he is member of bla bla bla, and he is bla bla bla in there. Most of these people are selfish, gready. Locked in smal communitys as clans, gangs etc. etc. These guys dont accept new people. Personaly? When did you help new player on this server, not give him 100$ and yeah i help... Not say go read rules its here. But explain, what to do... how, show him. Maybe you dont know?
Lets see, what "jobs" are common used. Freecop, ARPD, Gang member, kidnaps... and on this mostly ends, ohh and events. Cops chase criminals, criminals runs away... and circle ends. Half server of criminals and second of cops. Ofc there is abuse from boths sides, gang members come to random people and cops "money or die"... and cops suspecting for stupid reasons like "parked on wrong side of road", "bunnyhoping", and this is just begining. When someone try roleplay, he is simply ignored. People wach on him and are in shock.
When was only MTA:VC, what people do there? We dont have there scripts like here, no bizzes with entrance fee. Ofc there was police forces and criminals. But also you could go to bar and buy food, pizza or drink mostly any time. Someone was selling somethin, not just drugs. Someone was driving Mr.Whopie and he was selling ice creams. Taxi drivers, bank robberys, car service with repairs... etc. etc. It was live city. When new guy joined, always someone could explain him what to do. Belive me they are interested at start, how i can buy car, house... how i cant this or this. Not only scam, "its private place gtfo". You can also help on server. Dont ask what we can do for you, but what you can do for server.
People were helping eachother. Why? Why we are here? For fun, meat friends. And what we have, all the time complaints. Personaly for us, admins it is job, for some hard one. Mostly because of you. For new player its easy to forgive, he dont know about rules etc. etc. But you? You are 1337 roleplayers, and sometimes act like litle kids (no offence for youg members). About asskising. What you know about this... if someone want to be nice, whats wrong in this? Its called culture. Hello...Thank you... Please... im sorry. I would be happy see situation when regular say to new player. Please dont do that (and explain), instead of OMFG DmEr.... yarrr.
I was waching, server for some time. On SAMP you have many possibilitys for roleplay. Example, christmas place... these who was on christmas party remember, that was there about 40 people at once... or more. There were place for sell food, drinks, pool. Does anyone used them? Why? For money... 40 people! at once. No any invention. In old times there was really cool people. I remember year ago, fashion show... lol "year ago". (really cool thin).Two months ago, i was in bar... owner was selling that place because no customers "two months ago". It was good location. You ask why i know this? I can also do /changename. If you want places for roleplay, tell us! We can make state bars, with free entrance, no stock, no entrance fee... everyone allowed.
Why make such topic? To who i send my complain? At the end, think... are you true roleplayer? Think on your reactions.
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I can just agree with Legolas.
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Totally agreed.
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Most people play here to earn money and not to earn money by Roleplay.. A few people they dont even know what Roleplay means and they are just cops chasing criminals for money..
Its hard to find players that are able to roleplay realy good..
For example. I was roleplaying to suicide my self , jumping off the building of SAPD, there was only 2 guys that tried to help me, others was telling me Jump Jump and Jump. Well that is really non Rping...
About helping new players is not because you are private or something, you may not be in a good mood, or really busy.
The solution about Rp ? I really dont know, pay really much the players to RP?
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That was 1 of my leaving reasons..
Good say Legolas.
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Totally right and old members are trying to recover the good RP
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Well this is right but all i have done is offerd help to new player,Mostly i get jacked or attacked,after this i stay away from this guy.
None is better then anyone else.
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Totally right and old members are trying to recover the good RP
Some of them are, Some of them don't.
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Sad but true.
Agree with you Agent.
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You are 200 percent correct. everybody is unhappy, complaints, even when SAMP has alot of RP things.
I recently joined MTA VC and VCMP and, it's correct, People have patience with each other, they help rookies. In SAMP they should flame you when you dear to ask something.
About the gangs/clans etc. Some people live in there world (i don't speak about all clans) But when a clan/gang comes and ruin a RP, then the victims get punished sometimes. And that isn't the way it should work either.
even I recognize me in some things you have said. before my last bann ( long time ago) I was a pain in the ass for everybody, i was the things you said. it was hard to open my eyes and to realise i was wrong in the things i was doing. I think alot of players are like me before, no patience, flame, being angry when you ask something, not responding when rookies ask something, etc etc. I can admit, i do'nt help every new player, but as lonterm argonath RPG player i should help everybody who asks me something, and i cannot ignore it.
I think most people live on an island, and when a new one/stranger arrives, the person of the island, ignores the stranger, and thinks ''poblem solved, but no its not solved. The person of the island cna go to the other side of his island, away of the stranger, but the stranger is still on his island... people evade questions, we shopuld all be more polite and helplful to each one of us on argonath even i should!
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OMFG. Someone finally stepped in and said it. Those comments were stuck on my throat for AGES, but if I was the one who said it, none would take it seriously.
Where is the free RP these days? The server isn't all about money, house, bizz and car!
That's why I've always prefered 0.2.1, no offense. It was less realistic, but people could just /kill and BAM they're playing another role.
The majority of the players didn't waste their time with house and car, but on the roleplay itself! Roleplay flowed naturally.
The players weren't divided in factions, which is responsible for big part of the flames in main chat today.
You could be a soldier when you wanted, a russian mafia member, a gangbanger, cop, SWAT, FBI, Pizzaboy, Clown and much more, and whatever you chose you didn't have to spend on weapons.
True. There was more deathmatch. But it is the admin's job to stop it.
That for me, is Free Roleplay.
And that's what I today, fight to recover.
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ok i aint a guy playing on samp but i read it and i see allot of things that even i spotted (on the samp topics)
every-one is complaining about the rp yes..
every-one is just trying to make money all the time yes..
what i dont know is how they act to new people and how they rp in server and stuff but i do know that if those problems will come to mta:sa when the scripts come over there we need to solve those before it gets to much..
about me in mta:
i help new players not always, but when they want to learn i am there..
in mta we do allot of rp even when we are just with 2 persons online we rp..
i know i dont always rp sometimes i just hang arround or do some work for other people like helping them etc..
finaly i hope those big problems wont get to mta:sa cause when it is like you discribe it i wont stay long if it cant be solved...
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I don't agree with a lot of points, mostly because I hate this so called "free" roleplay & prefer another style of roleplay.
I really don't give a fuck about houses, money, events like the Destruction Derby, all I am looking for is serious roleplay, but it is rare.
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yes its the problem that cause they just all do everything for the money that they wont rp
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300% agree, sir, you best admin :war: :cop:
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I don't agree with a lot of points, mostly because I hate this so called "free" roleplay & prefer another style of roleplay.
I really don't give a f**k about houses, money, events like the Destruction Derby, all I am looking for is serious roleplay, but it is rare.
I mostly agree with your statement Car.
Agent isnt wrong, earlier we had less scripts..BUT we even RPed drugtrades without a script.
What happend now? I seriously dont know it...a lot of new players who think different? I dont know it.
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300% agree, sir, you best admin :war: :cop:
Example 1
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Asslicking
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In Addition to what you said Legolas:
Freecops - The easiest way to abuse scripts, mess up others fun and to make quick money to buy a cheated for house.
Events - Street racing has been posted on the forums, yeah okay so that makes it legal...it would seem that events are now considered OOC due to the fact that they have absolutely no role play, legal street racing - nonrp, legal destruction derby in a skateboard park - nonrp.
ARPD Trouble - Cop 'x' pulls over civil 'y' and he begins the roleplay, suddenly 500 freecops come and park near him to assist even after the cop has announced on the radio the code 4 (No Assistance required) you tell the freecop, code 4 cadet, and he carries on being annoying, eventually you pm him saying "Please Leave" and he does jack, then you take out your pistol, shoot the cop three times and wait for your ban when all you were trying to do..was have a nice roleplay.
I think I was a decent roleplayer, I enjoyed roleplays, anyway just my input.
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Asslicking
Damn I typed that too, you posted before me.
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So who's a roleplayer?
I'm not a roleplayer
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lol
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I'm not a roleplayer
How do you know it?
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Totally agree with you.
RP is a great thing, and we have many many things on the server to improve it. Specially now atm when the scripts are down, people start thinking more that how much all you developers and scripters and admins have done for us... hopefully.
....instead of OMFG DmEr.... yarrr
I lol'ed :razz:
But yes, for example yesterday I was RPing with another officer, I used proper language in the RP as usually etc... but then what? He answers lile: "O rly? xD :P :d". That seriously does kill your efforts to RP sometimes.. :neutral:
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there are a lot of complaints about none RPing, but i think ppl blow it up too,
it looks like SA:MP doesnt got RP at all,
well it does, almost everything is RP,
maybe there are 100 cases,
99 are RP, you dont hear anyone about that
1 of the 100 is none RP, and everyone starts to complain about it.
and im 1 of the players who help new players,
certainly new cops, since im mostly on duty as ARPD Sergeant,
you can ask enough cops around here(also well known cops right now: Thomas aka jol_gekkebol, and Salmonella), that i do help them,
and also none cops get helped by me
so stop all that complaining about 1 time none RP(i agree it can be worse sometimes)
but dont make topics with OMG stupid none RPing noobs! omg wtf ban ban!!
watch the RP in the server, it isnt bad, from my side as a cop there is good RP with criminals,
and civillians
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Carhartt, mayby you don't give a **** about DD or bizz etc etc. And yes i agree its rare to have a very good RP
As i said before, i never played MTAVC before and now i love it, good roleplay, less things to RP with, so it all depends on the players. But i do'nt mean by this that i like a server with less things in, i think MTA and SAMP are great, SAMP has alot of things you can do, and some people do'nt think its enough.. some say i'm bored etc etc, there is always something you can do, small thing and big things
asslicker
Fully agreed, you take the words out of my mouth Immortal
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How do you know it?
I dont play anymore in any of the servers, and WHEN I come to say Hello I just drives around. But I was a Roleplayer.
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Legolas, nice words about MTAVC and that still occurs to this Day people Open Shop Jobs, Transporting Business and Teach the newcomers how to play and earn a little Cash. VCMP is exactly the same people might come and not know but there's always someone helping another player get to know the Ropes, like Nico said back up i've seen people shout at newcomers "OMG f**king Asshole Noob!!". How do you think that makes them feel? Not part of the server and no wonder newcomers sometimes turn to DM cause no one has told them it's RPG.
You want Roleplay so bad? Head to MTAVC or VC:MP.
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Example 1
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Asslicking
Your new homework; Learn what those words mean
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Sarcasm
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Agreed. I can't RP in SA:MP the same way I can in MTA.
MTA was the first and the best. Nothing compared to the way people acted, roleplayed and talked there. There was hardly any flame, fights or fighting of any of the shooting sort. It was Bliss. To me SA:MP is that little boy who tried to grow up and be just like his daddy , but just didn't have the commitment.
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The topic made me think about it... I've recognized the situation just now...
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I read your post and I realised something.. I am a criminal/cop. Nothing more.
You made me think...
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In MTA, you can just walk into a shop and begin work as the cahier/cook/chef/whatever. In SA:MP you actually have to own the buisness and then all the rest is done via commands. We had to roleplay out everything, from buying and selling drinks to working as a taxi firm. Everything was pre-planned and roleplayed out fully. I would say that even the newer MTA guys can roleplay better than most of the SA:MP guys. I'm deadly serious about that point.
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You want Roleplay so bad? Head to MTAVC or VC:MP.
Most of them don't want, Rusty, because they think: "the skins are shit, there are no real gangsta RP conditions, everyone probably only do /me farts aahhhhhahaha and /me farts again ahhahahahahah, the properties r tooo expensiva argghhh, i cant RP my corleone mafia there cuzzzz i cant start buyin properties in 1 month cuzzz they R EXPENSIVE PLZPLZPL ADMIN CHANGE PRICE PLZ i cant RP mai crips gang cuuzzz there rnt blue gangsta skins and the drug dealer skin is shiiit lololool rival gangs using same skin IS NON RP LOLOLOLOLOL"
Non-rpers they are.
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Hello Legolas, everything you said above was quite true.
I've tried multiple times to do something different on Argo..
I mean, i've almost been a gangster or something close to that.
But everytime i tried to do something else, it failed.
Let me get this straight.
If we say, i'd try to be a hotdog-seller or a mechanic or something.
It'll last like 1 hour MAX, because no one would buy from me or let me deal with his carproblems.
The way i see it, it's three possibilities (GANGSTER, MAFIA, COP)
I've been here for almost one year and two months now and i remember the first day like yesterday.
Mechanics, gangs, hotdog-sellers, mafias, cops, taxis etc. all over the server.
Guys we're playing in every city: SF, LS, LV.
What happend?
You had so many possibilities back then, because everyone we're actually buying a hotdog, or let the mechanic deal with the carproblems. So instead of complain, try to bring back abit of the old style, when everyone tried to make argo a better place. It'll make you a better RPer to.
Instead of waiting for quiz, complaining or spamming mainchat, use your creativity to do something nice! :)
Over and out.
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Good example that nobody really RP's...
MTA:SA Argonath server...
Beceause there are (almost) no commands (yet) a big part of the community doesn't even try to join / RP, All beceause there is no money to spend, No cars / Business to own, but believe it or not,
The roleplay i experienced on the MTA:SA server, is quite bigger than the 'OMFG L33T /AD Abuse" SA:MP Server..
The arrival of commands made a disadvantage instead of advantage..
I hope we could solve this once and for all by just Roleplay new jobs, but then still, No one will show up to your shop.. Example 1
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Asslicking
Why would he asslick if he's an administrator himself? :trust: (Never heard of sarcasm? )
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Most of them don't want, Rusty, because they think: "the skins are shit, there are no real gangsta RP conditions, everyone probably only do /me farts aahhhhhahaha and /me farts again ahhahahahahah, the properties r tooo expensiva argghhh, i cant RP my corleone mafia there cuzzzz i cant start buyin properties in 1 month cuzzz they R EXPENSIVE PLZPLZPL ADMIN CHANGE PRICE PLZ i cant RP mai crips gang cuuzzz there rnt blue gangsta skins and the drug dealer skin is shiiit lololool rival gangs using same skin IS NON RP LOLOLOLOLOL"
Non-rpers they are.
John, you have made me Cry with Laughter...
Skins might be shit but they'v what we'v been using for the past what 1-3 Years? We haven't complained.
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Sailor has regen health abilities lolz :D
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John, you have made me Cry with Laughter...
Skins might be shit but they'v what we'v been using for the past what 1-3 Years? We haven't complained.
I said nothing more than the truth.
I doubt that any of these 'leet gangsta' RPers or Corleone Mafia 'Gods' would try RP'ing a gang/mafia in VC:MP on a serious way.
Oh, and for those who think that only thing we do in MTAVC/VCMP is '/me farts hhahahahahahahah /me farts again loooool', go .... yourselves.
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I said nothing more than the truth.
I doubt that any of these 'leet gangsta' RPers or Corleone Mafia 'Gods' would try RP'ing a gang/mafia in VC:MP on a serious way.
Ye cause SA:MP is easy moeny and they need like $1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to get good statusezzz!!!!!!1
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Why should I play on a Vice City server if I hate the game, story, characters, map & graphics?
Everyone who wants serious roleplay will find it if he simply sticks to his roleplay style, no need to change the server.
John, I don't know what's wrong with you, take a chill pill and lean back, this is a game, jeez. :roll:
All of those guys who give smart advices in this topic (except a few MTA:VC / VCMP players) from SAMP and call others non-RPers & greedy people cannot even roleplay themselves.
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Why should I play on a Vice City server if I hate the game, story, characters, map & graphics?
Everyone who wants serious roleplay will find it if he simply sticks to his roleplay style, no need to change the server.
John, I don't know what's wrong with you, take a chill pill and lean back, this is a game, jeez. :roll:
All of those guys who give smart advices in this topic (except a few MTA:VC / VCMP players) from SAMP and call others non-RPers & greedy people cannot even roleplay themselves.
Refering to me there? ;)
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Ye cause SA:MP is easy moeny and they need like $1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to get good statusezzz!!!!!!1
An indirectly flame to the SA:MP players ?
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An indirectly flame to the SA:MP players ?
A statment to all SA:MP money junkies and mobster groups.
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It's not possible to have $1000000000000000000000000000000000000000?
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It's not possible to have $1000000000000000000000000000000000000000?
Exaggeration and Sarcasm? Heard of those before?
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very gooed topic, it certainly enlightened me about situation on server, no, it was actually more like a wake up call for me!! imma change straight away. omg, thank you!
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Exaggeration and Sarcasm? Heard of those before?
no kill plz :m4: :sig:
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Refering to me there? ;)
I think you & Rusty stated some good points there.
Still it is wrong if you say that it is easy to make money on SAMP.
If you're new & you just want to try earning some cash with the given scripted jobs you won't do it for long.
A medic earns around $90 max. per patient he heals, right now the money goes to the patient and not to the paramedic, a bug which isn't fixed yet.
A lot of people don't care about the roleplay, they have tons of cash but prefer sprunk / vending machines.
A random firearm (Deagle in this case) costs around $1000, a medic needs to find 10 customers who are willing to roleplay the healing & who actually give him the cash.
- Impossible.
Whenever I am trying to call a paramedic out of roleplay reasons because one of my friends got injured during a shootout / brawl, I am waiting for nothing because nobody plays as medic.
If you're working as driver you have the same problem. People prefer to bunnyhop for minutes to get a free unlocked vehicle instead of calling a taxi, instead of giving the driver something to do. I've tested it a lot of times, most of the time the new player was actually really nice, tried to be friendly & roleplay the little situation. I gave those guys a big tip (500-1000$). A lof of people call for a taxi, aren't patient enough and simply run for a new car, the taxi driver arrives in San Fierro and sees that he came there for nothing, because of a guest without patient. It can be really frustrating.
So almost everyone goes on duty as freecop, simply because there is always someone to hunt & the job is based on some action (driving & shooting).
However, those guys aren't really good roleplayers most of the time.
Everyone tells new players "Watch out for events, you can make money there".
I mean, what the fuck?! It simply cannot be the truth that you can gain cash by events only if there are scripted jobs.
A driver needs to work 2 damn hours to be able to buy a fucking pistol? This simply can't be the truth if you can get $100000 with a stupid quiz.
The veterans always win and new players don't have a chance to get some extra cash, how should they know everything about a stuid clan which doesn't exist anymore??
The currently scripted jobs are useless and you can remove them because nobody needs / gets something from it anyways if you're new.
Some veterans work from time to time as medic / driver, not for the cash but to have some fun with a different roleplay character.
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Exaggeration and Sarcasm? Heard of those before?
When did you drink a sort of a "Cool Booster" energy drink, somehow you are alot cooler :O, I admire you.
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Agreed. Better just hoppinh in a taxi and saying "Thats $20" to your destination....except some people don't have the roleplay skills to pay the driver...
When did you drink a sort of a "Cool Booster" energy drink, somehow you are alot cooler :O, I admire you.
I'm always like this...
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well I answer at your Question Legolas and say me :redface:
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Legolas, may I just say is that some servers are called "RPG Death Match" and most Roleplaying servers are just called RP, maybe you should change the name of the server to just ''Argonath Roleplay'' or ''Argonath RP'' this might make some people realise "Oh shit this isn't a deathmatch server, for I have heard there is a great difference from RPG to RP.
Just my input
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Unfortunately true Legolas ... Occasions are rare ... Let's take a few example :
-Someone shoot at the cops and try to run, get killed and call them aboozer !!! ... You find that normal ? You want to shoot at them and not receive a punishement ? Go to single player ...
-Someone come next to a cop and begin to punch his car only to get suspected ... Normal ? ...
-Some freecop come beside you, you are standing still on the sidewalk : You were suspected for reckless driving
And we could go all night like thise but let's not be totaly mean and bad, some people knows how to RP, some guys on server are very good rper with whom we can RP interrogation and such and even some weird situation (Hunting a dog that did bite a citizen ... ^^) ... But most of the time, you do something, let say you move and you get suspected if you are not a cop ...
By the way, Legolas, for your information there is a state bar without fee :=) The ARPD bar, on the highway between San Fierro and Los Santos, in flint county, on the sea side of the road, a slamvan spawn just beside. Notice something : It is always empty ...
Why does no one wants to be a medic : No one wants to RP with a medic or very rarely ... And what happen when you are a medic ? Your name is red ... So ? Freecops charge you and begin to shoot at you for no reason, thinking you are a suspect ... You need to tell them 3 times before they stop shooting ... And you need to repeat the process every 10 minutes ... NOT NORMAL
Why does no one wants to be a taxi driver ? People rarely call up a taxi or when they do, they are not patient enough. Ex : A guy call a taxi in Blueberry, you pm him : Ok taxi is coming, 4 minutes. ... You are almost in Blueberry : Pm from XXXXX : It's ok I found a car ... First time you say Ok that can happen ... Second time you still say ok it's cool ... Third time you begin to get pissed and fourth time you want to kill so you decide not to go on taxi duty anymore ...
And there I'm not talking about admin work ... People complain that it takes time to admin to answer or that admins are blind or all that blah blah .... Do you see what kind of reports we get ? Don't want to give me my car !!!! ... Nice report ! ... Flaming in pm ... How do you want us to check that ? And then you come and OMGOMGOMG BAN HIM PL0X !!!!! :cry: :cry: ... Admins work following what we see ... If we see the rulebreak, we will take action. If we see nothing, we won't take action. And now you got all those fellaz who think it's easy to be an admin, you just connect, sit on your steak and watch everything .... wRONg ... First, you are not yet even logged, you see mainchat flooded by hey admin can you help me ... You log in ... You pm, phone, sms all get flooded by : CAn you help me with this, that, this player keep breaking rules, etc... etc... While this happens, you see a few reports incoming, you check who are the other admins ... There are 10 other admins ... All running after everywhere to solve all reports ... Then, it's only the 1st minute you are logged, people begin to whine : Why ur not answering me ??????? HELLO YOU ARE NOT ALONE !!!!!!!! But no, you need to remain polite so you decide to set your pm off ... Then you take one by one over main chat .... When you finaly think you are done, someone need something else or got a complaint about this or that ... So you go for it, listen, try to find solutions ... Finaly, once you are done, you get ready to go play and see the time ... You just spent 2 hours answering and doing this and that, watching rulebreakers and such .... And now you must go .... And you didn't played one second ... All you had was people unhappy, coming at you to whine for EVERY POSSIBLE REASON ON EARTH !!! I remember once a player complained to me because there were no PINK CARS !?!?!?!?! ... LOL ??? I beg you perdon meh my dear sir but go paint one ... He answered : I dont wanna have to pay for it its server problem not mine ! ...
And then you ask why sometimes admins answer you straight out with answer such as : I don't know Ints id's by heart, check in forum, in gallery section, SAMP house interior ... Well ... If you could just see all what we see in one day ... You would understand ...
You want to know what's the best answer to a new player trying to DM ? Blanc Federico had it ... Or was it Leppi ? ... Not sure ... Anyways the guy turn around us, punching in the air and coming toward us ... And the Agent answer very politely : May I help you sir ? ... The guy just went away ... He never had to tell him : Stop dming omai imma report u to admins .... He said very politely May I help you? ... And it was enough ...
And then you have those people who think admins are moneytrees : Pl0x give me money ... And even admin to admin : Pl0x u haz load of cash ... In my case this cash don't even belongs to me entierly ... Most of it is FBI money. And yes we checked average players money ... I did that a few months ago ... Nothing really awesome ... Ever gave 100 dollar to a new player ? ... No ? ... Try this : Explain the server to a new player and ask him if he understand ... If he does, give him 100 dollars .... Not only you will avoid this player to be forced out of server but you will aswell gain a friend :=)
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Jaaska thats so true, i agree with nearly all of you, people are begining to just complain about everything,
like money to fix their car because someone apparently hit them, or they where DMed and they want their wepons back or money for weapons or car mods after a server restart.
they never accept the hard work admins are constantly doing..
These people come on and all they do is complain about every small problem..
then expect admins to do everything, its called a "ROLEPLAY Server" and they never just wait to RP all they want to do is mess around,
get chased by police, kill other people, Innocent or not innocent..
as you said when people call a Taxi or Limo..
They call one and after youve contacted them while youre on your way they send a message to you saying theyve found a car or got another lift or way to get there,
theyre to impatient to just wait for you and RolePlay properly, they just want the fastest possible way to get anywhere...
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Thanks Jaaskaa and all of you that understand my point. Dont stick in one role, playing diferent roles makes you true roleplayer. One day you are bandit and other you sell ice cream on the street. Be more politley to others, try fix somethin by yourself, explain.
About admins job, its pure true whats Jaaskaa told. And yes, i know that bar. RON and i was building that interior and we set it there :) Problem is... to far from LS where all players are.
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In MTA, you can just walk into a shop and begin work as the cahier/cook/chef/whatever. In SA:MP you actually have to own the buisness and then all the rest is done via commands. We had to roleplay out everything, from buying and selling drinks to working as a taxi firm. Everything was pre-planned and roleplayed out fully. I would say that even the newer MTA guys can roleplay better than most of the SA:MP guys. I'm deadly serious about that point.
that scripts on RPing sounds good, but thats isnt our problem, or scripters put it for SA,
or we stay as it is now.
and i am 100% sure that SAMP got enough great RPers,
i doubt those newbies are better in RP,
you guys heard 1 thing about 1 samp member,
and then you compare all of us with that 1 guy.
STOP thinking like that,we arent all the same,
maybe we got 1 black sheep who doesnt RP,
doesnt mean all others dont RP
the SAMP community got enough great RPer,
and SA will always be better then VC
but i gotta agree im 90% of my time a cop,
but why wouldnt that be RP, my job is cop,
so i go to work daily, i dont see lack of RP in that.
although i do agree most RP is cop vs sus, and not much selling and all,
i sold fishsticks 1 time, didnt helped much,
got a Victim, not much customers to RP with
so SAMP got great RPers, so dont take all our players as a bad RPer, because you only know 1 SA person, which is bad RPer
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that scripts on RPing sounds good, but thats isnt our problem, or scripters put it for SA,
or we stay as it is now.
and i am 100% sure that SAMP got enough great RPers,
i doubt those newbies are better in RP,
you guys heard 1 thing about 1 samp member,
and then you compare all of us with that 1 guy.
STOP thinking like that,we arent all the same,
maybe we got 1 black sheep who doesnt RP,
doesnt mean all others dont RP
the SAMP community got enough great RPer,
and SA will always be better then VC
but i gotta agree im 90% of my time a cop,
but why wouldnt that be RP, my job is cop,
so i go to work daily, i dont see lack of RP in that.
although i do agree most RP is cop vs sus, and not much selling and all,
i sold fishsticks 1 time, didnt helped much,
got a Victim, not much customers to RP with
so SAMP got great RPers, so dont take all our players as a bad RPer, because you only know 1 SA person, which is bad RPer
No offence, but i'm really not thinking this topic was made with 1 Player in mind.. The community may have great RP'ers.. Yet the half uses their skills.... I hope this topic may give a boost to the community, But as always that boost will die out together with this topic's age... Words will fade in people's mind once again.
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Well, here at Argonath's Vice City Side of the community, we take roleplaying seriously and It will eventually get better as SA:MP is getting a big amount of new players everyday.
By: Moe Ross
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Everyone tells new players "Watch out for events, you can make money there".
I mean, what the f**k?! It simply cannot be the truth that you can gain cash by events only if there are scripted jobs.
A driver needs to work 2 damn hours to be able to buy a f**king pistol? This simply can't be the truth if you can get $100000 with a stupid quiz.
Another point there, people do rely on Quizes and all that for money, why? Because they don't have time they'd rather do that than help some New Player out who's playing Doctor or Driver. Why have the Jobs if people don't use them? Fair enough they get used but like Carharrt said people don't have patience to wait 1-5min on a Taxi or even bother to respond to Ambulance Calls, i've seen more people Pimp Ambulances than use them for they'r correct use.
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I don't see why the people from VC thinks it's such a holy place... I've been there too, not much though, but it really isn't all that different from San Andreas from what I've seen, it's like fighting over who's dad is the best dad...
Only difference is that in San Andreas we have much more players, everyone wants everyone to play by their definition of roleplay... wich sometimes can lead to chaos.
Also it's kinda funny to see all of the people who post here, some are hypocrits some are not... although I'm not to judge, everyone can change.
I posted on the asslicking topic that whining about it is just cocksucking, and got the reply that my statement was idiotic...
Let me explain, whining about something will not help, it will just make the problem bigger...
An example of this...
Example 1
Source 1
Asslicking
Making this topic will most likely not change anything on San Andreas, just as previous topics about how to do what and why has not worked either... People will play the way they feel is right... And as far as I can see there is really nothing wrong with peoples roleplay on the server, some people roleplay grannies, some roleplay gangsters, some cops... etc etc.
Just because you are not a cop one day and icecream seller the other does not make you a bad roleplayer, roleplay is when you choose a character and play by that character, wether you do it short-term or long-term doesn't really matter, it's still roleplay, but then again this is just my opinion.
This is one of the reasons why I like Argonath, everyone can have their own style of playing, some plays it the way they feel is hard core, others do it their way... Some just go on the server, drive around and chat in the mainchat... I really don't see anything wrong in this although it can be a tad anoying when you're trying to have a dialogue with someone and the chat is flooded by people writing in main chat :P
I don't really have any points to prove in this post, nor do I post with any intent of anyone caring about it, or agree with it, I just want everyone to stop whining about everything and just play the way they like it...
I'd also like to end this post by saying, I did not read all posts in this topic, only the first few... I do not intend to start an argument with someone, therefor this will probably be the first and the last post I will post in this topic.
Ps. All this talk of opening a bizz and selling stuff really got me going... if anyone's interested in funding such a place feel free to send me a PM :P
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We all are here saying omai there is sooo much of a leak of RP ... We can spot most of the problems ... But ... 97% of the players of SAMP won't check this topic ever ... 70% of them should .... Because at least one thing concern them ... And we talk about this, we read this, but in two days, everyone will have forgotten this and will play careless like most of us are currently doing ...
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what can i say?... I agree on 100%...
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I roleplay Bussnies man all time that I'am online beacuse I like it.
Roleplay for me is to own a Bussines or a house and sell something from it, like right now I own a Lab...
and making some experiments and I working hard to make a homepage for it to share news and etc. about it(like a Database)
and I can say that I made a experiment that can make you fly, I call it SuperBlaster 100 ((Jetpack :P))
Sorry for a little Offtopic.. I dont know but maybe...
and sorry for the bad english but I am at the school so :D
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yea i see 2 that role play is dieng i want to hire some one for not that mutch cash but to he;p with role play but most players dont nwat less then 3k each hour Role play is not about cash its about roleplay i joined Citizenschip and Migration board to help new players i also joined AV Drivign school to help players but indeed most people care more about the ammount thats on there bank then on roleplay liek most people know i am somtimes taxi Driver these days for just 5$ do you want to know what i earn with it ?? -5k the only reason i do it so people have cheap taxi and for the roleplay but no one ever uses the taxi the rater take the car thats 100m furter becosu that doesnt cost anything when for most people there car is out of fuel the just take a other car to save cash ???? People Argonath is not about who is the Richest its about Roleplay
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Well, here at Argonath's Vice City Side of the community, we take roleplaying seriously and It will eventually get better as SA:MP is getting a big amount of new players everyday.
By: Moe Ross
maybe that we get more players is the problem,
you guys only got old players, rarely getting new players,
and those old players know it all,
we got new players every day, who dont know how to RP,
therefore the % of players who is a great RP is lower then VC,
but if you look at numbers, then we lead.
and @ jaaska's admins things:
all that work is mainly why i dont wanna be admin at the moment,
no time to RP for yourself, all the time help others players,
so i hate that, i do wanna help new players, but i wanna RP myself too
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and @ jaaska's admins things:
all that work is mainly why i dont wanna be admin at the moment,
no time to RP for yourself, all the time help others players,
so i hate that, i do wanna help new players, but i wanna RP myself too
When you're helping newbies try to do it RP. If the newbie does something non-rp or talks like that, tell him waht RP means and to talk OOC in brackets (( )) or [[ ]] or ooc:
That's the best way imo.
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When you're helping newbies try to do it RP. If the newbie does something non-rp or talks like that, tell him waht RP means and to talk OOC in brackets (( )) or [[ ]] or ooc:
That's the best way imo.
i know, but like said i dont wanna do admin work only,
helping newbies oke, but not 24/7
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I aint anymore. I was before, but i became a admin instead. Its rare that i roleplay, often when im in the server, i often spectate and doing admin job.
Also, sometimes when u join with non admin account, its not funny to roleplay, all u get is angry.
People, especially regulars ruin the RP with lame things, such as ramming, DMing, and just being a complete asshole. Just becouse they think the player is new, and they can do whatever they want.
Im shocked when i play on non admin how regulars act against new people when no one is seeing it.
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Yeah i know what are u talking about Mumin :/
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you guys only got old players, rarely getting new players,
and those old players know it all,
we got new players every day, who dont know how to RP,
That doesn't happen in VC:MP... What happens to VC:MP relating new players issue is kinda same as SA:MP but in lower numbers...
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Well, i am less active on SA:MP, but every time i come online to SA:MP, i will get DMed by some newbies/hackers, as usual.
Even cop work is getting boring...
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maybe that we get more players is the problem,
you guys only got old players, rarely getting new players,
and those old players know it all,
we got new players every day, who dont know how to RP,
therefore the % of players who is a great RP is lower then VC,
but if you look at numbers, then we lead.
and @ jaaska's admins things:
all that work is mainly why i dont wanna be admin at the moment,
no time to RP for yourself, all the time help others players,
so i hate that, i do wanna help new players, but i wanna RP myself too
RP with the new players. You can teach them and play at the same time. Do not say all new players "Don't know how to RP". A majority do, but just need a little help to get started.
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RP with the new players. You can teach them and play at the same time. Do not say all new players "Don't know how to RP". A majority do, but just need a little help to get started.
So true. To be honest it is the best when you help new players and RP with them at the same time..I'm really enjoying. And from the other side I got bored from RPing with same players same things all the time :( ..So meeting the new people and seeing how they play can be really experience
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So true. To be honest it is the best when you help new players and RP with them at the same time..I'm really enjoying. And from the other side I got bored from RPing with same players same things all the time :( ..So meeting the new people and seeing how they play can be really experience
I agree. It's really satisfying to see a sort-of-DMer evolve into a good roleplayer thanks to your helping.
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To be honest when a new player asks on main chat "How to buy weapons?" I respond /enter at ammu-nation and /buyweapon inside. Even though I KNOW for a fact that person is going to randomly shoot someone for no reason and why do you ask I tell them this informaion? So they can learn! We were all new players at some point on the servers, I suggest we try to help them best possible to enter this community, I like to see new players and faces. Some are bad, some are good and some are just hackers..
Anyway, I try to roleplay every day I enter the server I do serous roleplay too. I AM trying to gain businesses and nice cars in the process though :D and I love big gun fights and RPing a free cop while SAPD and FBI try to talk with hostage takers (Harry_Deckard is my cop name), I do my best, but most people here just spend all day talking in main chat and not giving a crap about in game RP.
:ps: I have been seeing some players on the beach selling RP food though :D
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Yeah, things has changed a lot since I started in september. With all these fightings, these gang wars are not fun when you're dragged into the middle, I mean look at the bloodz and cripz gang topic, that didn't look like rping, it provokes dming.
The only good rp I have seen in my time was the fbi drug bust with vinnie corleone and about 8 fbi and swat members. They swarmed us on the santa marina beach pier and took us to lv in a police convoy with swats standing watch at the doors, while the fbi interriogated me and vinnie. Then they decided to fly us to vice city (mtavc) but we had to end it because mta didn't work for most of the guys who were in the rp.
That's what I want to see nearly everyday, not have it end in a huge firefight just to avoid interrogation/ jailtime with the sapd.
Now, this thing I hope to never see was the events for money, I mean wtf? The events on mta got extremely old and it mostly took away our rp time because of the events. But sure I've enjoyed some of the events with the als and md security running an event, that was some rp, but its always at the end: "wtf he shot me, rammed me, or omfg I was supposed to win". Events sometimes always end with flaming. I'm done with typing this post with my thumbs lol, I'm currently on my blackberry phone, with nothing to do lol.
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Yeah, things has changed a lot since I started in september. With all these fightings, these gang wars are not fun when you're dragged into the middle, I mean look at the bloodz and cripz gang topic, that didn't look like rping, it provokes dming.
If you don't have a f**king clue what's going on, don't bring in those annoying statements okay?
You don't even have the slightest clue what we're actually doing, it is more than good roleplay.
"Gang wars, gang wars, DMer, DMer, E-Thugs!!!"
shut the fuck up and take care of your own business.
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Carhartt, chill off mate its not worth it. Roleplayed gangwars are quite fun if you know how to act in the gangwar.
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Yeah, things has changed a lot since I started in september. With all these fightings, these gang wars are not fun when you're dragged into the middle, I mean look at the bloodz and cripz gang topic, that didn't look like rping, it provokes dming.
EliteTerm.
I've seen alot of cops / mafiamembers complaining over "gangbangers" but jesus, are you better then them?
No you ain't so stop complaining over crips and bloods when Corleone (I say it because you're one of them) and other mafias and even cops don't rp a shit better!
You guys force the RP as much as them, do you have to RP because you got a cop after you with blue lights on?
If you do, that's forced RP. Then you should RP when a niggah comes to you and DM (you like ya'll calling it) you if you don't give him cash (Robbery situation).
That's the same f**king thing but in different kind of rp-styles.
This has nothing to do with them, it's great that Argonath got bloods / crips. If they made a mafia.. it would be great to. It's the idea who makes the point, i mean. They're trying something here. A few bunch of people who are actually trying to do something creative. Some of you has been a cop for 2 years, TRY SOMETHING NEW. Bring Argo back to what it were before. With no creative ideas, the server will end up dead sooner or later. EliteTerm and a handfull group of players, you're not better then them, so f**k off.. seriously. :neutral:
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Legolas, what u say realizes me more on the true.
But I am also trying to help some new people, train them in police force.
But we need some cool RP's, even like buying icecreams or something.
But also do not ignore good RP trying as someone selling things.
AS u saw using /ad on selling items, thats how it have to be.
ATM /ad has 2 functions:
- Abusing
- Selling / buy cars/houses/bizzes
When I saw someone selling or buying little things what are usefull.
Thats a reason why I gone from addicted to not very active.
I don't like driving around, without possiblilty for any RP.
I like to RP every day more, but I wont get in what I want.
I don't know, we really need to fight to change this!
And we cannot wait!!
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Dude don't take it too seriously, I haven't seen the blood and crips in action, but to other players they might not see the whole point, and they may see it differently.
When I get back ill check this out, just don't take this too f***ing serious.
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Serious? I'm not even serious, it's a game.
It's just annoying when people are complaining over things when they don't know a shit about it.
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RP with the new players. You can teach them and play at the same time. Do not say all new players "Don't know how to RP". A majority do, but just need a little help to get started.
never said they cant,
im 1 of the ppl who do help new players, not all the time though
and gangwars, never even seen any of them, while im active
and carharrt calm down
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Legolas, what u say realizes me more on the true.
But I am also trying to help some new people, train them in police force.
But we need some cool RP's, even like buying icecreams or something.
But also do not ignore good RP trying as someone selling things.
AS u saw using /ad on selling items, thats how it have to be.
ATM /ad has 2 functions:
- Abusing
- Selling / buy cars/houses/bizzes
When I saw someone selling or buying little things what are usefull.
Thats a reason why I gone from addicted to not very active.
I don't like driving around, without possiblilty for any RP.
I like to RP every day more, but I wont get in what I want.
I don't know, we really need to fight to change this!
And we cannot wait!!
And vegetables from Svenssons farm, but almost no one is buying, or its getting fucked up becouse of "cops" comes and suspects for selling weed and heroin when its wheat flour and other things..
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And vegetables from Svenssons farm, but almost no one is buying, or its getting f**ked up becouse of "cops" comes and suspects for selling weed and heroin when its wheat flour and other things..
Yeah and when i was adversiting i am selling medical herbs and tea i get kicked by admins for illegal ad -_-
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Gangwars are banned. Been banned for a long time.
They are only allowed when a third party neutral opinioned admin is present to over see and make sure it stays RP.
however I do not see the point on pointless shooting at other gangs. As it does not prove anything and IMHO it's just an excuse to DM.
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Totally agree with all what Legolas Said
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When I rp such as a trucker I don´t get bother by any cash related stuff. I "deliver" stuff around just for fun, and that people seems to like it
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Some of you dont understand who's a roleplayer. In simple way. Person who can play diferent ways/roles. Its not just my opinion, its common used in all RPG games. It means, you can be criminal or cop... but also you can have simple job like hot dog seller. You dont have to be gangsta or cop 24/7. Roleplayers use all characters that game offers. In GTA its hard, i dont tell you use 100 skins, lol. But dont stop in one road. Be creative.
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I remember when I joined for the first time, I got help actually. But the roleplay isn't very good. It's like 70% cops.
The rest is mafia dudes or gangbangers and both are criminal.
What is so funny with being cop when almost the rest of the server is cops? Is it really so fun to kill and rob everybody you see ? I bet not.
I've tried to sell newspaper and stuffs like that but I got only one customer.
Nobody cares, everybody just wants to make money. I see that everybody on this post is "agreeing" but if you agree so much where is the roleplay ?
The GOOD roleplay ?
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There is maaaaaany RP jobs out there. For example:
If I would own an office I would need office materials. Paper, pens and such. Especially paper. But I dont have unlimited paper, so there should be a "paper company" that creates paper. But what is paper made off ? Wood. So now we got 3 jobs. Paper factory worker and woodcutter. But the paper needs to be transported from the factory to the offices. Theres where we need a truck driver. Now we got 4 jobs ! But the truck can't drive 24/7. It needs fuel. But who is refueling the gasstations ? Or do they have unlimited gas ? No a truck with fuel has to refuel them. Now we got 5 jobs. But now did we come to the big problem. Money. The office owner pays the wood factory, the wood factory pays the truckdriver, the truckdriver pays the gasstation and so on. Everything goes in a circle. Now im not just talking about what I just wrote, it was just an example. Just think in that way and everybody doesn't have to be a cop or a robber.
I am spawning, I see a car wich I don't own. I am taking it. Now im turning the taxi and busdrivers jobless. Because I can drive any car or bike I see on the street.
I get shot, I am hurt. I see a soda machine. I go buy a soda and now im feeling good. Now im turning the medics jobless.
I don't even care about roleplay so I make the whole server a cop or a robber.
That's almost the way it is. But things can change. So why dont we change ? It cant be so hard, cant it ?
- Signed William Jackson.
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I get shot, I am hurt. I see a soda machine. I go buy a soda and now im feeling good. Now im turning the medics jobless
That's damn true. Although I keep using the sprunk machines, I'd love to see more medics in action. But please, if you are a medic and see someone laying and "/me bleeding", don't just PM the guy saying: "OY get in my car for heal!1!" and /heal id. I mean, I'd pay a lot for medics that actually treat the patient with /me commands and then heal, trust me, it's worth the experience. As the 911 paramedic calls are bugged atm, I have no option but to treat the injured myself even though I'm not a medic.
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Some of you dont understand who's a roleplayer. In simple way. Person who can play diferent ways/roles. Its not just my opinion, its common used in all RPG games. It means, you can be criminal or cop... but also you can have simple job like hot dog seller. You dont have to be gangsta or cop 24/7. Roleplayers use all characters that game offers. In GTA its hard, i dont tell you use 100 skins, lol. But dont stop in one road. Be creative.
You can be a roleplayer if you imagine to play 525269526 characters once a day on a "shitty" way, but you're also a roleplayer if you stick to one role / character and make the best out of it. The last point is actually better in my opinion. It has nothing to do with creativity if you play as cop, medic, criminal, mobster, hot-dog seller, business owner, ... on an idiotic way. So you want to say that it is not roleplay if you stick to your character, build up a network to other people, find your place in the "roleplay society" and keep on developing your skills / character trades?
If you really think so it is you who doesn't know what roleplay is.
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You can be a roleplayer if you imagine to play 525269526 characters once a day on a "shitty" way, but you're also a roleplayer if you stick to one role / character and make the best out of it. The last point is actually better in my opinion. It has nothing to do with creativity if you play as cop, medic, criminal, mobster, hot-dog seller, business owner, ... on an idiotic way. So you want to say that it is not roleplay if you stick to your character, build up a network to other people, find your place in the "roleplay society" and keep on developing your skills / character trades?
If you really think so it is you who doesn't know what roleplay is.
100% Agree. You do NOT have to be able to RP different characters to be a good roleplayer.
If you stick to ONE character and RP it well, you can still be a very good Roleplayer.
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agreed whatever
Jack, yeah that was an abuse :neutral:
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You can be a roleplayer if you imagine to play 525269526 characters once a day on a "shitty" way, but you're also a roleplayer if you stick to one role / character and make the best out of it.
Great compare.
What about comparing someone who can play only one role good and someone who can roleplay, eg. eight roles in the same level?
Then who will be the better roleplayer - the one who can play only one role or the one who can play pretty much anything?
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Great compare.
What about comparing someone who can play only one role good and someone who can roleplay, eg. eight roles in the same level?
Then who will be the better roleplayer - the one who can play only one role or the one who can play pretty much anything?
Just because you can roleplay eight characters it doesn't make you a better roleplayer than a guy who might RP only one character, if it is very good.
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Just because you can roleplay eight characters it doesn't make you a better roleplayer than a guy who might RP only one character, if it is very good.
You still don't get me. You keep comparing a z0mg RPer that plays only one role to people who roleplay more roles but not that good.
Compare someone that plays only one role and someone who roleplays at the same level, not better or worse, but plays more roles.
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You still don't get me. You keep comparing a z0mg RPer that plays only one role to people who roleplay more roles but not that good.
Compare someone that plays only one role and someone who roleplays at the same level, not better or worse, but plays more roles.
I got your point, check my post again, I never said that the guy with one role is a better roleplayer.
Still, why I am not a roleplayer just because I am concentrating on one role istead of 539573256290?
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I'm dynamic. I can play the asshole cop, asshole gangster and asshole taxi driver. I feel so 1337. :D
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Right, maybe i should start EsC up again to sort SAMP out :|
I have other RP ideas for things but dont have the money, because the majority are in it for the money, no offense lads..
...i only have 17k yet im a bartender and earn about 150$ on a good day, im on the verge of creating some kinda 'RP jobcentre' on forums if i find the list of cars etc..
If i get a good response ill try and make a start on either of the above ASAP
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Right, maybe i should start EsC up again to sort SAMP out :|
I have other RP ideas for things but dont have the money, because the majority are in it for the money, no offense lads..
...i only have 17k yet im a bartender and earn about 150$ on a good day, im on the verge of creating some kinda 'RP jobcentre' on forums if i find the list of cars etc..
If i get a good response ill try and make a start on either of the above ASAP
Contact me ingame Decy, if money is what it takes for some really good old RP.. Is 50k enough..? Or maybe more?
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Funny...
Legolas Starts this topic,
It has one of the most views on all topics on this board, All of a Sudden people can make roleplay groups and RP ingame..
Stay who you are, Don't change totally, Beceause sooner or later you are your old self back again..
Change in little steps, That way you will keep it dynamic..
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Funny...
Legolas Starts this topic,
It has one of the most views on all topics on this board, All of a Sudden people can make roleplay groups and RP ingame..
Stay who you are, Don't change totally, Beceause sooner or later you are your old self back again..
Change in little steps, That way you will keep it dynamic..
Thats true btw
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I'm a leader of the Araatus Yakuza.
I run the Araatus Yakuza, by committing crimes.
Thats my roleplay. I don't bother with OOC or IC rubbish, and just play.
To be honest, I got sick of tight roleplay a long, long time ago. Ever since the new scripts came out, people changed.
Everyone started being much more of an asshole, and started flaming over "lack of RP skills". Sure, we had the problems of DMers in 0.2.1 (LCV :( :D) but when they came we just killed them and laughed all the way to the bank.
I don't know what happened. But suddenly, everything is about money and business aquisition.
I do it too, I know. Lets put it this way, a point that should summarise:
I was only happy to roleplay freely when I had the house, business and car that I wanted, and had basically infinite money to spend on anything.
Thats how I am now. I have no idea what money I have because it doesn't matter. On WoW, I'm saving up for a flying mount. Then I need Cold Weather Flying, and the Epic Skill for flying mount also.
On Argonath, I have nothing to save up for, so I'm less tight with money (I'm still a bit of a git with money though, always have been) and can roleplay freely.
If nobody has anything important to save up for, they will spend money on 'pointless' or rather 'short-term' things such as roleplay and paying for imaginary goods or services.
Who the hell actually paid a hooker for their services?
Anyone?
Why would you, when you could save up for that Cheetah you want.
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Panda's words was from God, you are complete right.
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Panda, ur right, people have changed. Players have changed, RP have changed, argonath have changed.
I remember before, i had a no house, no bizz, no car, but i had fun.
Money, i earned it, not given by paydays or events.
Im gonna sell it again.
Question, how do u have fun:
By doing what u think is fun. In the limits of the server rules.
Dont go around annoy people, just have fun RPing. Not any extreme pr0 l33t RP that u /me every step u take.
I often do /me at things u cant see. Im not doing /me takes a sprunk becouse, u can see that ingame, u can see him putting in a coin, u can see him take the drink, u can see him drink it. No use to /me all that.
I roleplay often a farmer, cop or taxi driver, or something else. In all these, its about having fun.
I personally dont think all the extreme RP is fun, its get booring fast.
Be with those who think thats funny, some mates to do extreme Roleplay with, sure, if u want to do what tiderman exampled, do it, but dont complain on everyone else that dont.
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Ofcourse everyone agrees with Legolas, he is an administrator for christ's sake!
All that roleplay in SA:MP lacks, in my opinion, is imagination and fun, especially in the "mafia" roleplay.
There always will be those "1337 roleplayers" who would go around and whine that roleplay is poor and is dying, instead of trying to do something about it. Just remember to have fun, that's what it's all about...
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Great compare.
What about comparing someone who can play only one role good and someone who can roleplay, eg. eight roles in the same level?
Then who will be the better roleplayer - the one who can play only one role or the one who can play pretty much anything?
What about me, I roleplay like "gangsta" 24/7 or whatever, I did some cuban roleplay for a bit, but I cannot stand been some mafia guy, what if I dislike roleplaying a mafia role, but I RP a "gangsta" roll very well? Also, there are MANY MANY different moods which your character can have so his mood can change etc, this doesn't mean I'm a shitty roleplayer, you can roleplay a gangsta character, then another gangsta character and be in a completely different mood, digging deep inside the minds of your style, my style is different to yours, doesn't mean your better.
I don't agree with a lot of points, mostly because I hate this so called "free" roleplay & prefer another style of roleplay.
I really don't give a f**k about houses, money, events like the Destruction Derby, all I am looking for is serious roleplay, but it is rare.
One up. Me an Hayden probably started all this shit off about "real roleplay" and that. Thing is theres no point discussing it because there is always gonna be 2 sides. You'll either have the "Hardcores" and the "Freeplayers" if you get what I mean, as I would put myself in the Hardcore range, there is no real point making topics about how argonath's people should change, I made a topic about what I thought would be good, everyone shat on it and it became all shitty with stains on it, which ain't good. All the main admins and developers would put themselves in the "Freeplayers" range as they mainly do admin work and will not roleplay to their fullest because of there side-job. Theres no point trying anymore the whole developer team will go against everything Hardcore, So no one can win, so everybody should just roleplay how they want and move the f**k on, thanks for listening.
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The sad fact is the majority are motivated by money, most 'RP Jobs' will earn you f all money.
Another thing is most people ignore being involved in 'RP Jobs' because, as mentioned before, people dont want to spend money on things that 'dont exist' thats why the RP jobs get f all money because they have to set the prices below $99 in order to get a sale (believe me ive been in that situation MANY times as a pizzaboy etc)
The sad soloution to this problem? Some forms of 'RP Jobs' need to be scripted so minimum interaction with other players is required. As most players arnt prepared to give away money for no cuase, we needa script jobs like say, a Trashmaster driver, who has to go through a series of checkpoints, such as going to and from a 'treatment facility' to different communities such as Ganton etc. The server will then pay them a certain amount of money. I know people will be against that btw.
Another thing which kinda worked a while back was that San Fierro was the 'RP city' where roleplayers went. Maybe we could get a good few RPers, go to Palomino Creek or whatever and RP as country folk, then other people may follow :lol:
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The sad fact is the majority are motivated by money, most 'RP Jobs' will earn you f all money.
Another thing is most people ignore being involved in 'RP Jobs' because, as mentioned before, people dont want to spend money on things that 'dont exist' thats why the RP jobs get f all money because they have to set the prices below $99 in order to get a sale (believe me ive been in that situation MANY times as a pizzaboy etc)
The sad soloution to this problem? Some forms of 'RP Jobs' need to be scripted so minimum interaction with other players is needed. As most players arnt prepared to give away money for no cuase, we needa script jobs like say, a Trashmaster driver, who has to go through a series of checkpoints, such as going to and from a 'treatment facility' to different communities such as Ganton etc. The server will then pay them a certain amount of money. I know people will be against that btw.
Another thing which kinda worked a while back was that San Fierro was the 'RP city' where roleplayers went. Maybe we could get a good few RPers, go to Palomino Creek or whatever and RP as country folk, then other people may follow :lol:
I'll join you at as a country guy :P
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I remember my first months...
i bought a caravan in flint county about 2 months after playing...
I made roleplay out of it, i roleplayed with Zun he was my "neighbour" and we had fun, and then i got a bit more money, moved into a bigger house and it was boring...
And the people who moan about people not roleplaying.. 75% of these people dont roleplay themselves, its just somthing to moan about.
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What about me, I roleplay like "gangsta" 24/7 or whatever, I did some cuban roleplay for a bit, but I cannot stand been some mafia guy, what if I dislike roleplaying a mafia role, but I RP a "gangsta" roll very well? Also, there are MANY MANY different moods which your character can have so his mood can change etc, this doesn't mean I'm a shitty roleplayer, you can roleplay a gangsta character, then another gangsta character and be in a completely different mood, digging deep inside the minds of your style, my style is different to yours, doesn't mean your better.
One up. Me an Hayden probably started all this shit off about "real roleplay" and that. Thing is theres no point discussing it because there is always gonna be 2 sides. You'll either have the "Hardcores" and the "Freeplayers" if you get what I mean, as I would put myself in the Hardcore range, there is no real point making topics about how argonath's people should change, I made a topic about what I thought would be good, everyone shat on it and it became all shitty with stains on it, which ain't good. All the main admins and developers would put themselves in the "Freeplayers" range as they mainly do admin work and will not roleplay to their fullest because of there side-job. Theres no point trying anymore the whole developer team will go against everything Hardcore, So no one can win, so everybody should just roleplay how they want and move the f**k on, thanks for listening.
You're right mate, I hereby give up and simply do my own thing.
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Yes thats also true, people dont wana pay for anythin, that does not exist.
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I'm disappointed because I have seen people who claim to be "Roleplayers" and who go "I dont want to RP with you, you fucking noob!" in OOC /l chat... seriously, real Roleplayers always RP with anyone who is willing to RP with them.
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And if u think that their RP not fun?
U are forced to RP with them then ? no u aint.
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And if u think that their RP not fun?
U are forced to RP with them then ? no u aint.
Seriously...are we little kids who cry about everything? Yeah sometimes you gotta RP something you dont want, but thats not else in real life..so what is the freaking problem? You lose 1k E-Cash? OMG World goes down!...Seriously...think of what you are saying!
So I am allowed to do this if that situation comes up: A cop comes up and wants to arrest me, because I killed a person -> I can come up and say: No, I dont want to RP that, leave me alone, I want to drive arround in my car! ????? Seriously what the fuck?
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