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Due to the new car import at Argonath state, many car owners start to bankrupt. New cars are imported and car prices are dropping dramatically. Cars now are almost priceless. A lot of cars cant find their owners our days... People have lost millions in the past year and are still loosing money. Some of them are asking for donations, others are joining the illegal side and doing crime just to get some money. A lot of lives are ruined. Goverment is doing completly nothing to stop it.
(http://www.andyintokyo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/import-car-lot.jpg)
And now the OOC part: A lot of people have lost a lot of cash. I am definetly sure that they arent happy about it... Almost every car which is good now is 2 times cheaper... Is that right? A lot of cars were unowned in the last version and you add even new cars? Almost every greenwood was unowned! Whats the point of adding new cars? In the past it was so perfect...
In my opinion this was a mistake: Adding cars is cool - but its mistake when you add super cars. You added voodoo - thats cool! You added some trucks - thats cool! Then you added Cars like Infernuses! - And that was a mistake. I have lost about 1 million on this adding! - Maybe even more!
Another thing: Celeborn, you personally said that there will be no new cars added so I guess it wasnt true! Next time just say that you dont know or dont answer at all! I dont need any: Sorry, didnt know responses!
I can bet that a lot of people will agree with me!
(http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/Themes/default/images/warnwarn.gif) 1. Flaming a Lv6 Admin and Developer
2. Accusing the same of dishonesty
The point: I wanted admins to add cars we dont have at all. Not to add sport cars we have already and make them loose the price. I wanted completly new cars added. I am not saying they must do it but I am just making a suggestion. I will make a list of good regular cars/bikes we dont have at all:
Bikes: BF-400, FCR-900,
Lowriders: Blade, Broadway, Tahoma
Off road: Mesa
Saloons: Bravura, Elegant, Emperor, Esperanto, Fortune, Glendale, Hermes, Intruder, Manana, Nebula, Previon, Primo, Sunrise, Tampa, Vincent, Virgo, Willard
Other: Securicar, Sweeper, Tug, Baggage, Mower Forklift, Dumer (Is cool too and if you add it in bony county or something i dont think someoen wil always take it to destroy something...)
Wagons: Perenniel, Regina, Solair
Service: Bus
Industrial: Benson, Cement truck, Rumpo, Sadler, Yankee
See? The list is huge. I wanted to have something we dont have at all but instead we get so much sport cars and owners looses the price/money...(Whats the point of adding cars we already have...) I am not telling anything bad but, well your suggestions? :)
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Totally Agreed We Dont Need Any More Sports Cars Added!!!
Regular players are lossing money,because of this!
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Why should new players get bad cars and regular players get good cars?
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Maybe the reason they added cars like the Infernus because some players who aren't rich to buy cars like a Infernus unlike those who can afford to pay for over-priced cars at auctions.
As you see in real life, there are always new models of the same car coming out, example, the Mercedes E Class, I've seen at least 4 decent models of it released over a period of 10 years.
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Maybe the reason they added cars like the Infernus because some players who aren't rich to buy cars like a Infernus unlike those who can afford to pay for over-priced cars at auctions.
For example, which of poor/poorest players on the server got one of the cars? Uh, who?
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For example, which of poor/poorest players on the server got one of the cars? Uh, who?
Well it gives players a chance to save up and try to afford one of these vehicles.
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I agree , why should it always be regular players or the richest players who are able to get a chance to buy the nice or new cars.
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Maybe the reason they added cars like the Infernus because some players who aren't rich to buy cars like a Infernus unlike those who can afford to pay for over-priced cars at auctions.
As you see in real life, there are always new models of the same car coming out, example, the Mercedes E Class, I've seen at least 4 decent models of it released over a period of 10 years.
This is not a real life SERVER!
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 08:47:12 pm
I agree , why should it always be regular players or the richest players who are able to get a chance to buy the nice or new cars.
Becase they need to learn how to get higher in Argonath,server shoulden't give evrything in there hands with no work!
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This is not a real life SERVER!
I know this is NOT a real life server, I did not state it was a real life server, I was just giving a example. ;)
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 01:47:12 am
Becase they need to learn how to get higher in Argonath,server shoulden't give evrything in there hands with no work!
Argonath is not about gaining reputation and going higher and higher, its about coming to the server have fun, unfortunatly, a lot of people fail to understand this.
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Whats so great about loosing money? I am not the only one! I talked with another players and they agree with me... Oh and also: What I mean is that a lot of good cars now are priceless. Everything I see now is only car adverts. Today I found Uranus and huntley owner none but whats so good about them? They are only shit cars now... I am not the only one who lost money. I would be ok only if I wouldnt loose much money!
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I have lost about 1 million on this adding! - Maybe even more!
What is my point: On this mistake you made us loose a lot of cash.
(http://images.celebrateexpress.com/mgen/merchandiser/35463.jpg)
In loving memory of Bullets million...
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I agree , why should it always be regular players or the richest players who are able to get a chance to buy the nice or new cars.
They have worked hard to get the cash so they get a reward maybe? Think about it this way, in real life you get some people who have worked hard and raised a company from scratch and now own a few nice cars and a big house. Now imagine a normal person who has a car, a normal sized house but hasn't worked there arse off to make shit loads of cash. Along comes Gordan Brown or Barack Obama and gives an Aston Martin DB9 (metaphor for a nice/expensive car) to 50% of the working population. Think about how that would go down.
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Whats so great about loosing money? I am not the only one! I talked with another players and they agree with me... Oh and also: What I mean is that a lot of good cars now are priceless. Everything I see now is only car adverts. Today I found Uranus and huntley owner none but whats so good about them? They are only shit cars now... I am not the only one who lost money. I would be ok only if I wouldnt loose much money!
Money is not important on Argonath, its about having fun, you guys just never learn...
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I know this is NOT a real life server, I did not state it was a real life server, I was just giving a example. ;)
Argonath is not about gaining reputation and going higher and higher, its about coming to the server have fun, unfortunatly, a lot of people fail to understand this.
Examel frome Real Life! You can't compare Real Life With Argonath!
How Can you have fun in the server? Huh? The Only way to get fun is to have a meaning in the server, os evry players objective in argonath is to get higher,thats what fun is all about!
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Examel frome Real Life! You can't compare Real Life With Argonath!
How Can you have fun in the server? Huh? The Only way to get fun is to have a meaning in the server, os evry players objective in argonath is to get higher,thats what fun is all about!
Go play MTA:VC, VC:MP and MTA:SA, then you will see what fun on ArgonathRPG is supposed to be about.
Its not about who has the highest rank, who is higher then another, who has the most money, who is the best player, its about having fun roleplay's, having fun taking part in events, getting to meet loads of new players, and stuff like that.
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They have worked hard to get the cash so they get a reward maybe? Think about it this way, in real life you get some people who have worked hard and raised a company from scratch and now own a few nice cars and a big house. Now imagine a normal person who has a car, a normal sized house but hasn't worked there arse off to make shit loads of cash. Along comes Gordan Brown or Barack Obama and gives an Aston Martin DB9 (metaphor for a nice/expensive car) to 50% of the working population. Think about how that would go down.
Agreed!!!
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 08:58:58 pm
Go play MTA:VC, VC:MP and MTA:SA, then you will see what fun on ArgonathRPG is supposed to be about.
Maybe there is the fun, but in SA:MP The fun goes in a diffrent way...
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Agreed!!!
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 10:58:58 am
Maybe there is the fun, but in SA:MP The fun goes in a diffrent way...
SA:MP is fun, if its played right, since I've been playing it, I've seen it played in the wrong spirit and way by a lot of regulars.
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Money is not important on Argonath, its about having fun, you guys just never learn...
Oh right... I forgot... Ahh you know what? Lets remove fees for taxis, medic or cops or something else. Why do we need fees for bizzes? I dont know, do you? Oh right... We have to pay in real life. Hey I just remembered: Argonath isnt a real life server so I guess we can remove all the money. F*ck the money! Lets just choose what we want to own and just take it. We will have less problems without the money! No need for advertisement topic too! F*ck it!
Oh and another thing: Can you please spear me some cash? Since the money is not inportant to you then can you pease hand it over? Becouse I am kinda bom now...
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Oh right... I forgot... Ahh you know what? Lets remove fees for taxis, medic or cops or something else. Why do we need fees for bizzes? I dont know, do you? Oh right... We have to pay in real life. Hey I just remembered: Argonath isnt a real life server so I guess we can remove all the money. F*ck the money! Lets just choose what we want to own and just take it. We will have less problems without the money! No need for advertisement topic too! F*ck it!
Oh and another thing: Can you please spear me some cash? Since the money is not inportant to you then can you pease hand it over? Becouse I am kinda bom now...
You still don't understand... :neutral:
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SA:MP is fun, if its played right, since I've been playing it, I've seen it played in the wrong spirit and way by a lot of regulars.
The way you think is the wrong way,is acctualy the right way.
Because thats what Argonath is all abaut, i know what the street is talking...
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You still don't understand... :neutral:
Get your mind Straight! At the start you say that money is not inportant here but now you say that it is right?
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You still don't understand... :neutral:
I belive we know what are you saying...
You are saying it's all abut roleplay and having ''fun''...
LOOK AT THE CHAT IN GAME Everyone is selling something,they all care abaut there money ,and almoste none care abaut true roleplay.
All the deals are in OOC ,roleplay level is 3 out of 10,don't you see it?!
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Believe what you would like to, I cannot change your mind, I have my views and I will keep them and so do you.
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Oh right... I forgot... Ahh you know what? Lets remove fees for taxis, medic or cops or something else. Why do we need fees for bizzes? I dont know, do you? Oh right... We have to pay in real life. Hey I just remembered: Argonath isnt a real life server so I guess we can remove all the money. F*ck the money! Lets just choose what we want to own and just take it. We will have less problems without the money! No need for advertisement topic too! F*ck it!
Oh and another thing: Can you please spear me some cash? Since the money is not inportant to you then can you pease hand it over? Becouse I am kinda bom now...
Yeah if it's all abaut the ''roleplay'', lets make this happan,we will see how many players will be online then.
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 09:11:39 pm
Believe what you would like to, I cannot change your mind, I have my views and I will keep them and so do you.
Oh no,we will express all our thoughts abut this right here,on this topic and we will see what all of the players think abaut this...
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Oh Fabio! Think again! You are trying to say the right words but you dont believe them! I know that money isnt nothing for you. We all are humans and we all want something...
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*Image removed*
In loving memory of Bullets million...
Agreed so badly.
Oh Fabio! Think again! You are trying to say the right words but you dont believe them! I know that money isnt nothing for you. We all are humans and we all want something...
Yup, I want people to stop thinking about cash and start to actually roleplay.
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erm, Roleplay actually depends on you since if you only care about cash and sell/buy stuff then others see it just like you see it and try to make some cash like that too. I got Burrito and a house in chinatown allyway, I bought them for RP kidnapping etc. dont say there is no RP at all. All fabio was saying is money is not so important as a good role play, money Is needed but Roleplay is more important :P
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Oh Fabio! Think again! You are trying to say the right words but you dont believe them! I know that money isnt nothing for you. We all are humans and we all want something...
There is no use arguing with you with things that you won't understand...
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If you want super duper roleplay so bad then go to another server maybe? Argonath is Argonath; the roleplay is good if people actual co-operate with each other. Instead of kidnapping someone and demanding $34204930490 ask for $5,000 maybe? Roleplay something different maybe, road works, life guard. Use some imagination for Christ's sake.
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If you want super duper roleplay so bad then go to another server maybe? Argonath is Argonath; the roleplay is good if people actual co-operate with each other. Instead of kidnapping someone and demanding $34204930490 ask for $5,000 maybe? Roleplay something different maybe, road works, life guard. Use some imagination for Christ's sake.
I never asked for super duper roleplay, what I'm trying to emphasise is too much is put on money, and thats all people care about.
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Some people care too much for money however most people enjoy to RP. I personally enjoy RP being a rich business man as I am. Still, VC:MP and MTA:VC are more fun.
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Well...
We REGULAR PLAYERS who paid like 1,7mil for a Buffalo or An Infernus... This is BAD for us... But NEW PLAYERS must have chances too.
Because Of We Paaid ALOT on that kinda sport car we don't need to be selfish... Let 'em has their chance too. This happens once-in-a-lifetime
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You all say Argonath is all about fun
who doesnt agree with that ?
some people might think its fun to do huge RP's constant, some other people like to get their reputation up, some people like to be millionairs etc. whats wrong with that!?
if thats the way how they like to play Argonath then let them have their fun aswell !! But now with all these new cars their maybe months or more of hard work is ruined.
i totaly agree with you Bullet.. i went away for 3 days came back and heard of this.. and i was like... omg ur kidding me..
like Ollie said.. alot of regulars worked hard for what they got nowadays and now the whole economy is.. FAIL
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Some people care too much for money however most people enjoy to RP. I personally enjoy RP being a rich business man as I am. Still, VC:MP and MTA:VC are more fun.
Ollie, remember that time we discussed about those "certain people"...
Your not one of those. ;)
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I never asked for super duper roleplay, what I'm trying to emphasise is too much is put on money, and thats all people care about.
You just said it all, if all the people think about the money, thats the way Argonath is,you can't change people but you can stick to them..
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Ollie, remember that time we discussed about those "certain people"...
Your not one of those. ;)
Sure do :] Let's not bring them in here, keep it to MTA and/or MSN ;)
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Well...
We REGULAR PLAYERS who paid like 1,7mil for a Buffalo or An Infernus... This is BAD for us... But NEW PLAYERS must have chances too.
Because Of We Paaid ALOT on that kinda sport car we don't need to be selfish... Let 'em has their chance too. This happens once-in-a-lifetime
We REGULARS got to the 1.7mill, we made our achiefments and we got them didnt we ?????
Then why should it be easier for newcommers to get those cars !?
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Ollie, remember that time we discussed about those "certain people"...
Your not one of those. ;)
Ollie is just supprting ,what we are saying so dont blame him 4 ANYTHING!
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If you want super duper roleplay so bad then go to another server maybe? Argonath is Argonath; the roleplay is good if people actual co-operate with each other.
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We REGULARS got to the 1.7mill, we made our achiefments and we got them didnt we ?????
Then why should it be easier for newcommers to get those cars !?
Agreed.
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Yup, I want people to stop thinking about cash and start to actually roleplay.
This.
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This.
And how do you intened to make it happan,by adding more sports cars?
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I had a nice laugh. It's just a bunch of pixels on your screen, what's the problem?
Now the /p moaning is expanding onto forums, just great.
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I had a nice laugh. It's just a bunch of pixels on your screen, what's the problem?
Now the /p moaning is expanding onto forums, just great.
So are you willing to donate all your ''pizzels'' to New Players?
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Seskom haves it all right! Fabio, I am earning money in roleplay way! Its not like I am scamming, cheating or something else.
I will say all this in different words: They added sport cars more than regular cars. I actually see more sport cars than regular cars at the moment. A lot of people are speeding, cops are ignored and other wierd and unroleplay things going on... Roleplay is for fun - I agree but...
Ahh I lost my idea! You know why I made this topic?
1: Me and a lot of other people lost their money on cars.
2: We have too much good car!
We wanted to own the best vehicles and now we do but is that good?
In admin place I would add cars/bikes we dont have at all like:
Bikes: BF-400, FCR-900,
Lowriders: Tahoma, Broadway, Blade
Off road: Mesa
Saloon cars: Bravura, Elegant, Emperor, Esperanto, Fortune, Glendale, Hermes, Intruder, Manana, Nebula, Previon, Primo, Sunrise, Tampa, Vincent, Virgo, Willard.
Do you see now? We had a chance to these great regular cars but in this place we add more sport cars to make this more easyer for rulebrakers/suspects... My god! Just see the difference! Now we have sport cars more than regular ones! ( with we I am talking about scripters - I am not saying anything bad about you guys. You all do a good work and I admit it but I really dont like the new car list...)
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Why should new players get bad cars and regular players get good cars?
couldn't of said it better :)
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Why should new players get bad cars and regular players get good cars?
Okay fine. Remove all the shit cars and add a bunch of amazing top-end sports cars and let newbies get them for free.
Then we will have No economy and you will succesfully kill the value of every car on the server.
Regulars get money and buy the damn things, Newbies dont have the cash so simple! They DONT GET THEM.
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Okay fine. Remove all the shit cars and add a bunch of amazing top-end sports cars and let newbies get them for free.
Then we will have No economy and you will succesfully kill the value of every car on the server.
Regulars get money and buy the damn things, Newbies dont have the cash so simple! They DONT GET THEM.
Mega Agreed! He said what i was trying to say!
Good Work Mango!!!
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Then we will have No economy and you will succesfully kill the value of every car on the server.
THAT'S A GOOD THING, Argonath is not about economies and making lots of money, it's about ROLEPLAY
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So are you willing to donate all your ''pizzels'' to New Players?
I would be more than happy to give everything i own in my inventory away to new players , if it all got removed from me right now i would not mind, the only reason i play on Argonath is not for the money , its for the roleplay and having a laugh with others and meeting new players.
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couldn't of said it better :)
What? did I said that ONLY regulars can drive good cars? New ones must drive cars like greenwoods? No, No, No!!! I spend a lot of time making the money and buying it! We all were new once and we got rmoney! Do you see my point? We were trying and we did it! New guys always haves a chance! If they work hard they get something good, if they just dont do nothing, they get nothing! And now basically I just gaved some million or more just to someone who just started playing here. Wow I should be proud of myself huh?
I am not! I didnt wanted to!!!
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What is my point: On this mistake you made us loose a lot of cash. I would love to get something back! For example donation! What do I think about new economics? They s*ck! (Becouse I lost a lot...)
I did not make you loose cash YOU did by selling and buying vehicles for stupid prices
Also I know that you will lock this topic and say something stupid... Lock this topic, go ahead but it will not bring reputation back!
This is going higher...
Another thing: Celeborn, you personally said that there will be no new cars added so I guess it wasnt true! Next time just say that you dont know or dont answer at all! I dont need any: Sorry, didnt know responses!
I said NO new vehicles would be added before 0.3 .... we are on 0.3 WAKE UP !
Regular players are lossing money,because of this!
I did not make you loose cash YOU did by selling and buying vehicles for stupid prices
Well...
We REGULAR PLAYERS who paid like 1,7mil for a Buffalo or An Infernus...
Thats not my fault or even scripts fault, that is the fault of players..
1. We added cars as there are NOT enough for all players..
2. We have not changed the prices of vehicles.
This means the fault is laid flatly at the hands of the players selling the vehicles for stupid prices...
I watched when I uploaded the latest batch of cars and LOTS of players were ad'ing to sell unowned cars for values WAY above the actual script price..
This is effect a SCAM when all people have to do is pay the SCRIPT price
I have noticed ALL the moaners are those that have been RAKING in money by selling vehicles at above script price.
AND guys its going to get worse, MORE vehicles are heading and a bigger mix, but will still have some sports as there is where the demand is, well its what the players want, its YOUR OWN FAULT !!!
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What? did I said that ONLY regulars can drive good cars? New ones must drive cars like greenwoods? No, No, No!!! I spend a lot of time making the money and buying it! We all were new once and we got rmoney! Do you see my point? We were trying and we did it! New guys always haves a chance! If they work hard they get something good, if they just dont do nothing, they get nothing! And now basically I just gaved some million or more just to someone who just started playing here. Wow I should be proud of myself huh?
I am not! I didnt wanted to!!!
Bullet, to be honest i think, that if you care SO much about your 'fast' car, and your 'lovely money'...
i honestly don't know if you get the point of ROLEPLAYING.
the best thing to compare, is MTA:SA..
no money scripts loaded, no car scripts loaded.
do we have fun? WE DO
do we get people getting mad about it : BARELY
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What? did I said that ONLY regulars can drive good cars? New ones must drive cars like greenwoods? No, No, No!!! I spend a lot of time making the money and buying it! We all were new once and we got rmoney! Do you see my point? We were trying and we did it! New guys always haves a chance! If they work hard they get something good, if they just dont do nothing, they get nothing! And now basically I just gaved some million or more just to someone who just started playing here. Wow I should be proud of myself huh?
I am not! I didnt wanted to!!!
The sad thing is, you say this as if you actually did something for the money...as if you worked hard for it
You PLAYED on the server, you possibly roleplayed, you made money from doing tasks like selling properties...which involves no skill or roleplay
Guess what, the administrators work hard! The scripters and server owners work hard! What do we get in return? We get players with bad attitudes towards new players and anything which opposes their money-making, which needs to change immediately...
This is "Argonath RPG", not "Argonath let's make pointless amounts of money"
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I did not make you loose cash YOU did by selling and buying vehicles for stupid prices
This is going higher...
I said NO new vehicles would be added before 0.3 .... we are on 0.3 WAKE UP !
I did not make you loose cash YOU did by selling and buying vehicles for stupid prices
Thats not my fault or even scripts fault, that is the fault of players..
1. We added cars as there are NOT enough for all players..
2. We have not changed the prices of vehicles.
This means the fault is laid flatly at the hands of the players selling the vehicles for stupid prices...
I watched when I uploaded the latest batch of cars and LOTS of players were ad'ing to sell unowned cars for values WAY above the actual script price..
This is effect a SCAM when all people have to do is pay the SCRIPT price
I have noticed ALL the moaners are those that have been RAKING in money by selling vehicles at above script price.
AND guys its going to get worse, MORE vehicles are heading and a bigger mix, but will still have some sports as there is where the demand is, well its what the players want, its YOUR OWN FAULT !!!
Oh so now it's the players fault?!
First sure add some new cars,but not sport cars!
Add some RolePlaying cars.
And many people are making money on selling cars.
If all the Regular players that are playing here like 3years and making money,off cars,how do you think they will react on this.
And betttter yet,what will the server do if it pisses the regular players off,and all the regular player leave argo?
Make the server fun for all, not only to the new guys ,but for Regulars too!
Other wise server will loose many players,and noone wants that to happen,right Celeborn?
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I also see people, who have like 10 milions. i mean like come on? don't tell me they worked their butts of for it
they got this by selling and buying things, like david says, THIS REQUIRES NO SKILL.
what's the point of having 10 mill?
will you feel better about it?
will you be better than the rest?
NO
people with a high level of roleplay will be seen as "BETTER" however "BETTER" isn't appropriate in this sentence.
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Bullet, to be honest i think, that if you care SO much about your 'fast' car, and your 'lovely money'...
i honestly don't know if you get the point of ROLEPLAYING.
the best thing to compare, is MTA:SA..
no money scripts loaded, no car scripts loaded.
do we have fun? WE DO
do we get people getting mad about it : BARELY
So go play MTA : SA!
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 10:01:56 pm
The sad thing is, you say this as if you actually did something for the money...as if you worked hard for it
You PLAYED on the server, you possibly roleplayed, you made money from doing tasks like selling properties...which involves no skill or roleplay
Guess what, the administrators work hard! The scripters and server owners work hard! What do we get in return? We get players with bad attitudes towards new players and anything which opposes their money-making, which needs to change immediately...
This is "Argonath RPG", not "Argonath let's make pointless amounts of money"
And whyy do you think Regular players have Bad Attitudes,huh?
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So go play MTA : SA!
actually you are tempting me to do this, there you don't have people moaning...
i suggest you log off, think about it all, and come back later.
you are obviously to mad to discuss this in a proper way.
btw, do you actually think the developers didn't think this through?
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So are you willing to donate all your ''pizzels'' to New Players?
Get your facts straight, I gave away around 25 millions of my own in total and I still don't care about cash.
"Oi oi oi, we made lots of virtual cash, and we are losing it now, omg omg omg omg pls, you all suck, soem1 haaalp!!11"
Hilarious.
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Bullet, to be honest i think, that if you care SO much about your 'fast' car, and your 'lovely money'...
i honestly don't know if you get the point of ROLEPLAYING.
the best thing to compare, is MTA:SA..
no money scripts loaded, no car scripts loaded.
do we have fun? WE DO
do we get people getting mad about it : BARELY
No I dont care about it! I dont! I spend a lot of time just on deals, checking adverts all the time and hoping for luck... I spend a lot of time! Take my shit car and my dirty money, but please give me back about 300h or 400h of my life. Can you? Please? I am trying to think ''right'' but I cant after spending all the time for nothing...
Celeborn: I was asking you question about new samp and in the middle of all of them I asked about car adding, you said no...
Money isnt important but all that hard work... Eh... Well atleast deals were fun.
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Regular players are lossing money,because of this!
I must be new then, just i gained like 3mil+ on this 'Economic crisis' thing
I think you guys are wrong and you need to be thank full for what developers spend their time and nerves on.
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Oh so now it's the players fault?!
First sure add some new cars,but not sport cars!
Add some RolePlaying cars.
And many people are making money on selling cars.
If all the Regular players that are playing here like 3years and making money,off cars,how do you think they will react on this.
And betttter yet,what will the server do if it pisses the regular players off,and all the regular player leave argo?
Make the server fun for all, not only to the new guys ,but for Regulars too!
Other wise server will loose many players,and noone wants that to happen,right Celeborn?
Yes, it's the fault of players...always has been
So let me get this straight, we can't add sports cars because you don't want yours to depreciate in value? Talk about selfish...
You want roleplaying cars? CBFASI added firetrucks, armoured vans, car transporters etc...you obviously haven't been roleplaying with them
Yes, they are making money on selling cars...we are saying that in this case, it's a terrible thing as they are gaining advantages from screwing over other players
How do we think regular players will react? Well it depends on which players...a lot of players aren't money-hungry, so they are FINE with this. As for the money-hungry ones, we expect reactions like this topic...rants about how they can't be as rich as before, but still pointlessly rich
Alright, the regular players leave Argonath...we have lots more room for brand new players!
Do not direct this at CBFASI...it is YOUR FAULT
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Guys there will be more lower spec and other rp vehicles coming, just cos I did a small number of sports cars you all moaning !!
When you was asking me Bullet I said there would not be new cars when we switiched over, that was 100% true, but is in the past.. the swtich from .2x to .3 did NOT add cars, its after that...
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All of you will get through this once the "economics" stabilizes.
Thank you for bringing more cars into the server.
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I cant belive it Bullet, how selfish can you be.
I am incredibly happy more "low cost economic" vehicle got added.
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Yes, it's the fault of players...always has been
So let me get this straight, we can't add sports cars because you don't want yours to depreciate in value? Talk about selfish...
You want roleplaying cars? CBFASI added firetrucks, armoured vans, car transporters etc...you obviously haven't been roleplaying with them
Yes, they are making money on selling cars...we are saying that in this case, it's a terrible thing as they are gaining advantages from screwing over other players
How do we think regular players will react? Well it depends on which players...a lot of players aren't money-hungry, so they are FINE with this. As for the money-hungry ones, we expect reactions like this topic...rants about how they can't be as rich as before, but still pointlessly rich
Alright, the regular players leave Argonath...we lots more room for brand new players!
Do not direct this at CBFASI...it is YOUR FAULT
My Fault?
Stop bing like ''ahh it's your fault we are gods we can''t make mistakes'' Its getting anoying.
Sure you have lots of room for new players,we will see how New Players are better than Regular ones.
Okay if its not abuat the money,then why are some bizzes so Expensive like Hilton Hotel 1milion!
How do you make such money without selling cars or anything for a buy out? Answer me that!
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How do you make such money without selling cars or anything for a buy out? Answer me that!
Get a job
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I cant belive it Bullet, how selfish can you be.
I am incredibly happy more "low cost economic" vehicle got added.
Yes we all are happy that ''cheap'' vechiels are added,but we dont like that so many sport's car's are added.
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How do you make such money without selling cars or anything for a buy out? Answer me that!
Events? That's how I earned my money... atleast the most of it.
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If you are still playing Argonath RPG because of the money, then your reason of being here is WRONG.
I can guarantee you, staying moneygreedy, will get you worse in the future.
Better stop caring about the money, or your life on Argonath will get worse.
Read these words, they are 100% true.
Okay fine. Remove all the shit cars and add a bunch of amazing top-end sports cars and let newbies get them for free.
Then we will have No economy and you will succesfully kill the value of every car on the server.
Regulars get money and buy the damn things, Newbies dont have the cash so simple! They DONT GET THEM.
Wanna know why?
Because 90% cares about their own money only, and never spend money on new people.
They get in debt and left the server, the way money is used on Argonath - is in a total NON RP WAY.
And is only a status, to make your self called "rich" and that seems to make you "cool"
Not for me, sorry.
Another thing:
You guys are NEVER happy.
When we add shit cars, you will react like: "OMG WTF DIS CARS ARE SHIT I DONT WANT , FUCK DEVELOPERS THEY SUCH CHOSE CARS"
When we add good cars, you will react like: "OMG WTF YOU RETARDED DEVS FUCKS UP THE ECONOMY, OMG MY CAR VALUE DECREASED WITH 400K, OMG I CANNOT SHOW OFF NOW"
And why show off? You need to earn respect, and that is not with your amount of money - trust me.
And how do you intened to make it happan,by adding more sports cars?
Wanna know how that works?
You stopping moaning about every single change developers make, to get more RP back (they actually CARE about the server, do you?)
Becase they need to learn how to get higher in Argonath,server shoulden't give evrything in there hands with no work!
On the way you are talking, you aren't really a lot higher then them.
As they care about having fun, and get friends.
You care about money, whats even LOWER - think about it mate.
How Can you have fun in the server? Huh? The Only way to get fun is to have a meaning in the server, os evry players objective in argonath is to get higher,thats what fun is all about!
Are you sure?
I think fun is defined as having a laugh in a good RP.
Not defined as you doing /bank and see your millions - atleast, it doesn't work like that for me.
You are talking about "going higher" , can you explain what is going higher in your words?
As on this way about only wanna be the richest guy, doesn't really make you "higher".
There is nothing "higher", as everyone is "equal"
Oh right... I forgot... Ahh you know what? Lets remove fees for taxis, medic or cops or something else. Why do we need fees for bizzes? I dont know, do you? Oh right... We have to pay in real life. Hey I just remembered: Argonath isnt a real life server so I guess we can remove all the money. F*ck the money! Lets just choose what we want to own and just take it. We will have less problems without the money! No need for advertisement topic too! F*ck it!
Oh and another thing: Can you please spear me some cash? Since the money is not inportant to you then can you pease hand it over? Becouse I am kinda bom now...
To be honest, the taxi and medic fee should increase, so the money of the regulars get more "shared" with new people.
If you don't agree with that, learn to agree with this.
Why really caring about money, earned in a game - what you never can get IRL?!
And talking like this to Fabio, because he is defending a point of him, isn't that nice either.
Why he should send you his money, you dont care about it, he dont care about it - but he can use it on new people.
Because they do care about a nice START.
May I ask you, last time you spend money on a new guy? Or when you helped him?
Being a regular, and being here gives you responsiblity also for representing the name of Argonath RPG.
New people join to have a fun, and meet new friends.
You are here, to give our image about the server/community, and if you are moneygreedy and dont wanna help them.
Why should they stay? They can't do anything, and you can just relax, play and moan about the cars , while you still have like millions.
All the deals are in OOC ,roleplay level is 3 out of 10,don't you see it?!
Argonath doesnt support IC / OOC.
But anyways, you will tell me, you only care about money "IC" ?
Why are you like going wild on the forums then? Why are you caring so much here?
It's only "IC" right?
Oh Fabio! Think again! You are trying to say the right words but you dont believe them! I know that money isnt nothing for you. We all are humans and we all want something...
I know Fabio well enough, to tell you that he more care about having fun on the server, meeting new people, helping people and nice roleplays.
Then that he plays this game to be the richest guy on the whole server.
Yes, we are all humans (atleast we should be) and we want something.
But I think more people should want fun, then money (as it's still a game, what should be "entertaining" for you)
Well...
We REGULAR PLAYERS who paid like 1,7mil for a Buffalo or An Infernus... This is BAD for us... But NEW PLAYERS must have chances too.
Because Of We Paaid ALOT on that kinda sport car we don't need to be selfish... Let 'em has their chance too. This happens once-in-a-lifetime
Because some regulars, are money greedy.
And like to earn a lot of money, to "show off"
New people dont have any change to buy the car they want, they will never HAVE 1,7M.
I can tell you, even I can't bid on the average Infernus or something, as this is just TO HIGH.
You just said it all, if all the people think about the money, thats the way Argonath is,you can't change people but you can stick to them..
We can't change people, as they will still be money greedy.
But we can change the way of things, so you dont have any reason to be moneygreedy.
And then you will regret it, and you NEED to care about RP, otherwise server will be REALLY boring.
We REGULARS got to the 1.7mill, we made our achiefments and we got them didnt we ?????
Then why should it be easier for newcommers to get those cars !?
Simply, because I directly see, the way you are talking, you see "new people" lower then you.
And thats your bigger fault, they are same as you - they do the same, they want the same.
And at the end, you are all here for 1 thing: roleplay/fun.
Get over it....
And how do you intened to make it happan,by adding more sports cars?
Yes it did work , value of the infernus dropped heavily.
Thank god.
So are you willing to donate all your ''pizzels'' to New Players?
Just to tell you, he gave away:
- $1,000,000.
- 1 buffalo
So, nice false accusation of something you don't know about.
Seriously , my last call - get over it, Argonath isn't about money - server names says:
Argonath RPG - (RolePlaying Game
not
Argonath $$$$$
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Get a job
First Sure a job with an income 2-4k an haur, well i can maybe get a mill if i play like this for some monts,but thats only the value of the bizz,the ovner wont just give it,he will ask for the buy out and thats just sad.
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What about all the "regulars" who had crappy cars and wanted some "nice sport cars"? They did just get a chance just like new players and members of this community to buy the new vehicles..
Why didn't anyone complain when the same thing happen with the property's? I mean... First we had lock down for ages and people had to deal with others to get the property they wanted, then "lockdown" got removed and we started to set new houses and bizzes, The Argonath Economic didn't crash.. Why should it do so when there are more vehicles?
I just see some pointless arguments without any fact or thoughts behind it..
And i still do not understand how you can lost millions of this new vehicles added, did someone steal cash from you? Cos if you still have the car you owned before and other property's then you haven't lost anything... Simple!!!
How do you gain money? Dealing with "illegal items", continue do car and property deals and do some "legal" jobs or anything that you can use with your brain.. I remember RI made some cash by offering car wash service and a garage service at Gas Station 9!! - Not scripted job, no items involved, If you ask me REALLY GOOD RP!!
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First Sure a job with an income 2-4k an haur, well i can maybe get a mill if i play like this for some monts,but thats only the value of the bizz,the ovner wont just give it,he will ask for the buy out and thats just sad.
Whatever you say won't change the fact that doing a roleplay job is better for the simple reason that you are roleplaying
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Holy shit Nexxt o.o
Anyway, please, dont do the same mistake as I did.
I was money greedy once, and I only cared about achieving a million in my bank, I never did, but I was close.
I even lost a few friends cause of it. And of course, I got banned.
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If you are still playing Argonath RPG because of the money, then your reason of being here is WRONG.
I can guarantee you, staying moneygreedy, will get you worse in the future.
Better stop caring about the money, or your life on Argonath will get worse.
Read these words, they are 100% true.
Thank your the backup Nexxt, appriciated. :)
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If you are still playing Argonath RPG because of the money, then your reason of being here is WRONG.
I can guarantee you, staying moneygreedy, will get you worse in the future.
Better stop caring about the money, or your life on Argonath will get worse.
Read these words, they are 100% true.
Wanna know why?
Because 90% cares about their own money only, and never spend money on new people.
They get in debt and left the server, the way money is used on Argonath - is in a total NON RP WAY.
And is only a status, to make your self called "rich" and that seems to make you "cool"
Not for me, sorry.
Another thing:
You guys are NEVER happy.
When we add shit cars, you will react like: "OMG WTF DIS CARS ARE SHIT I DONT WANT , f**k DEVELOPERS THEY SUCH CHOSE CARS"
When we add good cars, you will react like: "OMG WTF YOU RETARDED DEVS f**kS UP THE ECONOMY, OMG MY CAR VALUE DECREASED WITH 400K, OMG I CANNOT SHOW OFF NOW"
And why show off? You need to earn respect, and that is not with your amount of money - trust me.
Wanna know how that works?
You stopping moaning about every single change developers make, to get more RP back (they actually CARE about the server, do you?)
On the way you are talking, you aren't really a lot higher then them.
As they care about having fun, and get friends.
You care about money, whats even LOWER - think about it mate.
Are you sure?
I think fun is defined as having a laugh in a good RP.
Not defined as you doing /bank and see your millions - atleast, it doesn't work like that for me.
You are talking about "going higher" , can you explain what is going higher in your words?
As on this way about only wanna be the richest guy, doesn't really make you "higher".
There is nothing "higher", as everyone is "equal"
To be honest, the taxi and medic fee should increase, so the money of the regulars get more "shared" with new people.
If you don't agree with that, learn to agree with this.
Why really caring about money, earned in a game - what you never can get IRL?!
And talking like this to Fabio, because he is defending a point of him, isn't that nice either.
Why he should send you his money, you dont care about it, he dont care about it - but he can use it on new people.
Because they do care about a nice START.
May I ask you, last time you spend money on a new guy? Or when you helped him?
Being a regular, and being here gives you responsiblity also for representing the name of Argonath RPG.
New people join to have a fun, and meet new friends.
You are here, to give our image about the server/community, and if you are moneygreedy and dont wanna help them.
Why should they stay? They can't do anything, and you can just relax, play and moan about the cars , while you still have like millions.
Argonath doesnt support IC / OOC.
But anyways, you will tell me, you only care about money "IC" ?
Why are you like going wild on the forums then? Why are you caring so much here?
It's only "IC" right?
I know Fabio well enough, to tell you that he more care about having fun on the server, meeting new people, helping people and nice roleplays.
Then that he plays this game to be the richest guy on the whole server.
Yes, we are all humans (atleast we should be) and we want something.
But I think more people should want fun, then money (as it's still a game, what should be "entertaining" for you)
Because some regulars, are money greedy.
And like to earn a lot of money, to "show off"
New people dont have any change to buy the car they want, they will never HAVE 1,7M.
I can tell you, even I can't bid on the average Infernus or something, as this is just TO HIGH.
We can't change people, as they will still be money greedy.
But we can change the way of things, so you dont have any reason to be moneygreedy.
And then you will regret it, and you NEED to care about RP, otherwise server will be REALLY boring.
Simply, because I directly see, the way you are talking, you see "new people" lower then you.
And thats your bigger fault, they are same as you - they do the same, they want the same.
And at the end, you are all here for 1 thing: roleplay/fun.
Get over it....
Yes it did work , value of the infernus dropped heavily.
Thank god.
Just to tell you, he gave away:
- $1,000,000.
- 1 buffalo
So, nice false accusation of something you don't know about.
Seriously , my last call - get over it, Argonath isn't about money - server names says:
Argonath RPG - (RolePlaying Game
not
Argonath $$$$$
But Nexxt you too make deals with big buyout prices ,not affordabel for Newbies, so you aren't much diffrent frome all of us.
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First Sure a job with an income 2-4k an haur, well i can maybe get a mill if i play like this for some monts,but thats only the value of the bizz,the ovner wont just give it,he will ask for the buy out and thats just sad.
You must be misinformed about payments - if you're in a group, and apologize me for doing this kind of ordinary "publicity", like RI you get ~15-80k per week depending, of course, on your role.
Role-playing! Not by selling/buying cars, houses etc.
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I hate to get a bit off-topic but, I sold my roadtrain today to buy a new imported vehicle, the Utility truck. But, All of them are STATE owned! Last night they weren't STATE owned. So What's the deal? I'm trying to help the ecomomy buy buying a utility truck and hiring workers to help with unemployment #s. Now I cant because the government bought all of the trucks! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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You must be misinformed about payments - if you're in a group, and apologize me for doing this kind of ordinary "publicity", like RI you get ~15-80k per week depending, of course, on your role.
Role-playing! Not by selling/buying cars, houses etc.
I Remember my first paycheck from Rage Inc, that was awesome ;)
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No! You kinda dont get my point! And I am not selfish! I want people to earn money to buy cars... I have made a lot of ideas in vehicle category. I wanted the trashmaster to be added for some garbage man work but it was a bad idea, I wanted Tahoma to be added since it haves 4 doors and cars like tahoma are very good for RP Gangs or something but it was a bad idea too... I wanted us to have something new. I love that we have Voodoo and Parker and other great cars for RP and fun. I also love that flatbed truck DFT something... But whats the point of adding super cars. All you do is make the owners to loose money. I listed cars before that we dont have at all. I would love to see them sometime. I also think that adding Andromada would be hell lot of the fun since you can park cars at the back.
Please get my point...
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When you can add low economic cars, you got to add the opposite, if you get what I mean...
Now new players can maybe get a piece of a Jester, they never had that chance before did they?
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You must be misinformed about payments - if you're in a group, and apologize me for doing this kind of ordinary "publicity", like RI you get ~15-80k per week depending, of course, on your role.
Role-playing! Not by selling/buying cars, houses etc.
Sorry,but with RolePlay you really can't make much money,atleast without RolePlay Robbing etc.
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What about all the "regulars" who had crappy cars and wanted some "nice sport cars"? They did just get a chance just like new players and members of this community to buy the new vehicles..
Why didn't anyone complain when the same thing happen with the property's? I mean... First we had lock down for ages and people had to deal with others to get the property they wanted, then "lockdown" got removed and we started to set new houses and bizzes, The Argonath Economic didn't crash.. Why should it do so when there are more vehicles?
I just see some pointless arguments without any fact or thoughts behind it..
And i still do not understand how you can lost millions of this new vehicles added, did someone steal cash from you? Cos if you still have the car you owned before and other property's then you haven't lost anything... Simple!!!
How do you gain money? Dealing with "illegal items", continue do car and property deals and do some "legal" jobs or anything that you can use with your brain.. I remember RI made some cash by offering car wash service and a garage service at Gas Station 9!! - Not scripted job, no items involved, If you ask me REALLY GOOD RP!!
So True....
STOP BEEING SELFISH about Your sports car... Why you wanmt then to increase value? To sell...then what you di with money? Buy another one?---Just keep the car and stop moaning about the 'crisis'
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But Nexxt you too make deals with big buyout prices ,not affordabel for Newbies, so you aren't much diffrent frome all of us.
LOL!?
I haven't sold a house for ages (bought in may 2009)
I have sold my car (Banshee) to a REGULAR - [WS]Brainiac - for just 1M, because he really wanted it and I wanted another CAR.
So I needed money because people make absurt buyouts, and in the end I couldnt get the car, because the seller lifted it with 300K.
And this freaking accusations:
PLEASE ASK THE DEVELOPERS TO LOG CHECK - How much money I spend on my administrative job:
"Admin, I got killed by a freecop, can I have 1K" - I send them most of the time
"Admin, I dont have money to enter this bizz and I wanted change skin" - I pay them entry fee and the skin
"Admin, I see nice car, but I need 2000, can you please give me" - I will give them
"Admin, I am new here, but I spend money on weapons and I want buy new weapons" - I give them a little bit , as they are NEW
"Admin, can you give me some money, so I can do event, I wanna have some fun" - I will send them some.
Another thing:
When I am patrolling with a freecop (I do that a lot), I go buy some armour, and then also give them money for an armour
Explain how to but etc, and give them some weapons with "/giveweapon"
So, pure false accusations - I know how I can put my affort into this problem, and I dont care about my money.
But I wont give it away to regulars, I am helping new people with it.
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Server has 999 vehicles
I added in that last update ...
10 Infernus (Total on server = 18)
3 Banshee (Total on server = 10)
4 Turismo (Total on server = 10)
(thats UNDER 20 sports cars !!)
What was added since 0.3 started
I may miss some but not the sports...
Bike slots returned..
giving us...
4 Pizzaboys
10 Faggios
10 Freeways
then...
5 more Fire Engines
3 Securicar
12 Caddies
4 Sparrows
6 Packers
8 more Freeways
20 Landstalkers
5 more Stretch
10 Voodoo
8 more Ambulance
2 more Leviathan
10 Washingtons
2 more Barracks
2 more Patrios
2 Cargobobs
2 Skimmers
10 VW style Campers
5 Utility vans
10 DFT 30 trucks
5 Hustler
Police Recieved final allowance, they will have to move vehicles around or swap but will get no more.
These are distributed around..
17 HPV1000
2 LSPD Police Cars
2 Enforcers (they will get no more !!)
9 SFPD Police Cars
15 LVPD Police Cars
SWAT
4 Ranchers(4 door) SWAT
1 Raindance SWAT
1 Maverick SWAT
1 SWAT Water
FBI
1 FBI Rancher
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No! You kinda dont get my point! And I am not selfish! I want people to earn money to buy cars... I have made a lot of ideas in vehicle category. I wanted the trashmaster to be added for some garbage man work but it was a bad idea, I wanted Tahoma to be added since it haves 4 doors and cars like tahoma are very good for RP Gangs or something but it was a bad idea too... I wanted us to have something new. I love that we have Voodoo and Parker and other great cars for RP and fun. I also love that flatbed truck DFT something... But whats the point of adding super cars. All you do is make the owners to loose money. I listed cars before that we dont have at all. I would love to see them sometime. I also think that adding Andromada would be hell lot of the fun since you can park cars at the back.
Please get my point...
So your point is...you don't care about new vehicles being added as long as your profits don't go down?
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Sorry,but with RolePlay you really can't make much money,atleast without RolePlay Robbing etc.
Why you need money if you can roleplay?
If you earn LESS with RP, that also means, you will PAY less with RP.
Maybe get that fact ALSO.
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When you can add low economic cars, you got to add the opposite, if you get what I mean...
Now new players can maybe get a piece of a Jester, they never had that chance before did they?
If they wanted a fancy sport car they should ''Get A Job'' As David_Omid said.
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 10:31:27 pm
Why you need money if you can roleplay?
If you earn LESS with RP, that also means, you will PAY less with RP.
Maybe get that fact ALSO.
I like the opposit way David.
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If they wanted a fancy sport car they should ''Get A Job'' As David_Omid said.
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I like the opposit way David.
So should you, and the way you are working.
They cant start up a "Estate" Company, because cars are to expensive...
Got me there?
Stop being selfish about your money. I have seen alot by you now Bullet and Rage, it got to stop...
As Frank also said, we have to start investing and help new commers to become regulars!
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I like the opposit way David.
My name is Nexxt.
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So should you, and the way you are working.
They cant start up a "Estate" Company, because cars are to expensive...
Got me there?
Stop being selfish about your money. I have seen alot by you now Bullet and Rage, it got to stop...
As Frank also said, we have to start investing and help new commers to become regulars!
I am just saying that David_Omni said a ''grat'' idea he said If i want to get a hotel for 1 milion i have to get a job,so all the other players to, if they want to get big assets they can ''Get A Job'',right David?
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My name is Nexxt.
Yes it is! :)
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David you almost had my point. But I tought that maybe infernus would cost even more in the new version and I would be able to sell it in new version and test every new type of car added. I wanted to have fun with. Oh and also: Why am I forum warned? Tell me the right reasons? I would love to hear them. Since I didnt flamed anyone and just wanted to tell my suggestions about car adding... I tought General is topic for every suggestion but I guess I was wrong... Wrong again...
I have ruined my reputation in one day and you even didnt saw my idea... Great. I am proud to be warned Argonath hero. Thanks!
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I am just saying that David_Omni said a ''grat'' idea he said If i want to get a hotel for 1 milion i have to get a job,so all the other players to, if they want to get big assets they can ''Get A Job'',right David?
No need to question David or CBF. They did what they did, what would argonath be without then. Could you script a whole new server with unique commands yourself? NO
We all got different specialities...
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No need to question David or CBF. They did what they did, what would argonath be without then. Could you script a whole new server with unique commands yourself? NO
We all got different specialities...
Am yes i can script,thats false acusian!
I dont question David or CBF, i am just saying that there are things that need to bee thought out Twice before doing!
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No need to question David or CBF. They did what they did, what would argonath be without then. Could you script a whole new server with unique commands yourself? NO
We all got different specialities...
Aksel you are right! I cant script all that. I dont know anything about it. I am making my own suggestions and questions. I am not flaming. But it all happens so fast...
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Am yes i can script,thats false acusian!
I dont question David or CBF, i am just saying that there are things that need to bee thought out Twice before doing!
I think the did thought about this more then twice!
And if you can script, and if you think you are that good.
Why not ask Gandalf about your developer job? :cool:
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I dont question David or CBF, i am just saying that there are things that need to bee thought out Twice before doing!
Just because you don't like the changes doesn't mean that they weren't well thought out and planned
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New idea!
Next one who says this fucks up the economy and they will lose money ingame.
Should been removed of his money manually....
Tired of this, I thought you guys knew better....seems not.
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Aksel you are right! I cant script all that. I dont know anything about it. I am making my own suggestions and questions. I am not flaming. But it all happens so fast...
Exactly, CBF and David are doing the best for the server and what Gandalf and the other owners want.
They are re-viewing the suggestions and questions people like us come with, and the good ideas will be added.
But the last few topics from you are just money money and so on.
For example the one you lost an auction cause of small font. So? I dont care if you lost that auction.
Small font have nothing to do with Argonath, Gandalf cant modify the SMF scripts and patches...
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I think the did thought about this more then twice!
And if you can script, and if you think you are that good.
Why not ask Gandalf about your developer job? :cool:
Well yes i can script ,but i dont have time to take such an responsability.
And if they thought it out Twice why does this topic even exists?
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 10:47:44 pm
Just because you don't like the changes doesn't mean that they weren't well thought out and planned
Of curse they where planed out,but not for all the players...
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Well yes i can script ,but i dont have time to take such an responsability.
And if they thought it out Twice why does this topic even exists?
Of curse they where planed out,but not for all the players...
It exist because your moan-friend Bullet made it, dont blame us.
And they thought it out, and like every big decision on a big community.
Not everyone can be happy..
Reason of making a topic of that? NO.
Bye.
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I would like a forum moderator or anyone else to lock this topic because it will just end up in a Flaming Holocaust.
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New idea!
Next one who says this f**ks up the economy and they will lose money ingame.
Should been removed of his money manually....
Tired of this, I thought you guys knew better....seems not.
Well i figured that something like this will pop up...
When you can't take the heat,you scare players in order to shout them up...
Hmm,maybe you should try actualy explain in detail how and what is going to hapen , and say what good and BAD will be at the end,so please dont use your power to kae people shout up.
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 10:51:58 pm
I would like a forum moderator or anyone else to lock this topic because it will just end up in a Flaming Holocaust.
You dont know,how it will end up!
So let us all get clear with this so we can live peacevully!
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Of curse they where planed out,but not for all the players...
For most of them...it's impossible to make all players happy, especially ones who seek different things
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Well i figured that something like this will pop up...
When you can't take the heat,you scare players in order to shout them up...
Hmm,maybe you should try actualy explain in detail how and what is going to hapen , and say what good and BAD will be at the end,so please dont use your power to kae people shout up.
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 10:51:58 pm
You dont know,how it will end up!
So let us all get clear with this so we can live peacevully!
What "power"?. I dont have any "power"
And if you aim at my admin rights , they are not "power" but called a "job"
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No expert, but, in a few weeks when cars harder to buy, economy will rise again.
Government gives you more cars, more possibilities, and all you do is moan about money. Shame on you all.
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It exist because your moan-friend Bullet made it, dont blame us.
And they thought it out, and like every big decision on a big community.
Not everyone can be happy..
Reason of making a topic of that? NO.
Bye.
So you are saying that,no mather what will be done,all players never can be happy at one time?
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So you are saying that,no mather what will be done,all players never can be happy at one time?
Some players wont, including you and Bullet. Everything you care about is Money.
Play for fun and friendship - not stats and Achievements
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What "power"?. I dont have any "power"
And if you aim at my admin rights , they are not "power" but called a "job"
Every job has it's power..
So how they say ''The Bigger Power The Biggger Responsability.
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So you are saying that,no mather what will be done,all players never can be happy at one time?
If you care so much about money, then you won't be happy.
And don't put it like we admins and community leaders and server owners, just do this to make you sad.
We have got an unfair balance in the past, we are trying to balance back:
Between "regular" and "new player", to get it fair for both sides.
Quote from Grzesiek
Play for fun and friendship, not for stats and achievements.
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More people - More cars
But dont add expansive cars, add greenwoods and other cheap cars, so even poor players can have their own car, and stop going around stealing any car to drive it.
Also, some of you say money and reputation doesnt matter. Well it is fun to be famous, it is fun when you get online , whole server says hi to you , it is fun to own a gang , to own your own bizz , it is fun to be rich and popular....is it more fun to be Eugene or ADkmskAdmf ?
Let me guess? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Some players wont, including you and Bullet. Everything you care about is Money.
Play for fun and friendship - not stats and Achievements
Dont say things like that abut me!
I like roleplay , and i never said anything that i am moneyhungry!
Just all this dosent seem right for me...
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New players didnt get any benefits from the cars that were added all who had benefits were the night regular players who had millions and used their second accounts to hold vehicles and sell them for again millions!!
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and i never said anything that i am moneyhungry!
Here we go again, six pages for nothing? maybe we should start all over again...?
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If you care so much about money, then you won't be happy.
And don't put it like we admins and community leaders and server owners, just do this to make you sad.
We have got an unfair balance in the past, we are trying to balance back:
Between "regular" and "new player", to get it fair for both sides.
Quote from Grzesiek
I know you dont make this ,to make players sad,but as you said there has been Unfair balance, thats why people want money!
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Every job has it's power..
So how they say ''The Bigger Power The Biggger Responsability.
I dont have any freaking power!
I have the tools, to get people following the server rules, that's my job:
Enforcing server rules and helping on players questions.
My job is NOT to show how much power I have.
It's not even called power imo, it's called "tools" what gives me a lot of possiblities to make you follow the server rules.
Otherwise you get punished.
So my "tools" are giving me "responsebility" , not my "power".
And otherwise, I wont use my "power"(like you called it) because I wanna tell you something.
As my "powers" are not AGAINST someone but to HELP players...
Stop accusing admins of using their powers, we put a lot of time on the server.
To help people and give them a nice stay, and all YOU do in return for that is shit on us.
Why are you still here on Argonath, with those:
- Stupid money changes, unfair Developers
- Shitty admins
- Stupid newbies
Atleast, thats not my opinion, but what I got from yours....
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Here we go again, six pages for nothing? maybe we should start all over again...?
As i said I never said I am money hungry!
Just all this is not right...
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I know you dont make this ,to make players sad,but as you said there has been Unfair balance, thats why people want money!
Yes, that's why NEW people should get money, not you.
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As i said I never said I am money hungry!
Just all this is not right...
When it doesent feel right, why did you even made this silly thread?
This discussion will continue untill you get the fact straight, the cars wont get removed. The Scripters put alot of efford into this, they wont just remove it like that.
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I dont have any freaking power!
I have the tools, to get people following the server rules, that's my job:
Enforcing server rules and helping on players questions.
My job is NOT to show how much power I have.
It's not even called power imo, it's called "tools" what gives me a lot of possiblities to make you follow the server rules.
Otherwise you get punished.
So my "tools" are giving me "responsebility" , not my "power".
And otherwise, I wont use my "power"(like you called it) because I wanna tell you something.
As my "powers" are not AGAINST someone but to HELP players...
Stop accusing admins of using their powers, we put a lot of time on the server.
To help people and give them a nice stay, and all YOU do in return for that is shit on us.
Why are you still here on Argonath, with those:
- Stupid money changes, unfair Developers
- Shitty admins
- Stupid newbies
Atleast, thats not my opinion, but what I got from yours....
WO WO i nevair sadi admins are duing a bad job,in fact i never said admins are bad...
It's just That one post where you said
''Next one who says Economic crises are fu**ed up will get there money removed.''
Thats what i was saying about ''Using power To Make People Shout Up!''
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Bullet made it not Rage :m4:
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Bullet made it not Rage :m4:
Who gives a fuck, they are both the same.
Nexxt never abused his "powers" you dont have "powers" when you get admin rights, you get the authority to control and help new players more then regulars can.
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When it doesent feel right, why did you even made this silly thread?
This discussion will continue untill you get the fact straight, the cars wont get removed. The Scripters put alot of efford into this, they wont just remove it like that.
Oh really,alot of eforte to add 20 cars?
Anyway i never said that i want cars to be removed,i am just saying that The more cars are put on the server,tha faster car prices are droping!
But thats alright ,lets add so many sports cars that prices go so down that peple wont sell or buy car's,then will the RolePlay become more popular.
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But thats alright ,lets add so many sports cars that prices go so down that peple wont sell or buy car's,then will the RolePlay become more popular.
Perfect, finaly you understand it after 9 pages ;)
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Who gives a f**k, they are both the same.
Nexxt never abused his "powers" you dont have "powers" when you get admin rights, you get the authority to control and help new players more then regulars can.
How dare you calling us the same?!!
You have no rights of jugment here!
And read the Topic where Nexxxt says about In game money removed if someone says Ecomick Prices Are going down!
Thats what i mean with PoweR!
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How dare you calling us the same?!!
You have no rights of jugment here!
And read the Topic where Nexxxt says about In game money removed if someone says Ecomick Prices Are going down!
Thats what i mean with PoweR!
If this makes you feel better.
"I will remove your cash"
Now, I am not an administrator, does this feel better that I say it instead of Nexxt?
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New idea!
Next one who says this f**ks up the economy and they will lose money ingame.
Should been removed of his money manually....
Tired of this, I thought you guys knew better....seems not.
This Reply I was talking about..
The power and all...
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WO WO i nevair sadi admins are duing a bad job,in fact i never said admins are bad...
It's just That one post where you said
''Next one who says Economic crises are fu**ed up will get there money removed.''
Thats what i was saying about ''Using power To Make People Shout Up!''
You ment it on that way.
Yes, because , I personally agree and am in the mood for a discussion all of the time I am online.
But this and discussion anymore, this are just accusations and moaning about changes made by developers.
And if you cannot stop that, why dont let you feel that in the way you care the most about? (money)
Think about it, this topic wont change anything, and see this as an improvement.
As RP is lack now, and then you start moaning about non RP stuff.
Why it's NEVER GOOD.......
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If this makes you feel better.
"I will remove your cash"
Now, I am not an administrator, does this feel better that I say it instead of Nexxt?
Will you calm down?
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Also I know that you will lock this topic and say something stupid... Lock this topic, go ahead but it will not bring reputation back!
Another thing: Celeborn, you personally said that there will be no new cars added so I guess it wasnt true! Next time just say that you dont know or dont answer at all! I dont need any: Sorry, didnt know responses!
THOSE are why I warned you.
I do not believe further from me is required, and thankfully I haev calmed down.
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......,tha faster car prices are droping!
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Who cares about that?
Finally some newer people get those cars too.
And with "removing money" , it ment - seems the only thing you care about is money.
And nothing stops your from fighting for it, this includes disrespecting developers, other people of the community and new people.
So, I ment: "We need to remove that, to make you stop?"
p.s They said, there wouldnt be cars added at this moment (by the way, they added faggios and bikes before, and no one made a topic about that)
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We have set cars in script and set a price for them.
Did we ever encourage people paying millions extra for cars and houses ?
Did we ever tell people such value was 'real' ?
Actually all those who made extra money on cars, business and houses by getting money above the price that was set in game have been lucky.
Why new people find it so hard to make money and get a house and a car ? Because some greedy regulars have though of overpricing their posessions so they would have millions more.
Why do people scam and take loans they can only afford by hiding under other names ? Because that is the only way they can get greedy players to share some of the money.
Are you unhappy because suddenly your car value went down ? You are wRONg. The car value has stayed the same.
What has been decreased is the 'illegal' value of cars. Want to complain to the Government about your illegal money disappearing ? Please go ahead, it might bring us to new ideas on how to let people lose money.
Better prepare to sell all your stuff and hide your millions. Tomorrow cars may be not worth more than the official price. The day after that business might no longer have value over the set price. Next week houses may no longer be able to sell above the set value.
And if you guys complain enough about it, we will reset ALL accounts and you can start from the beginning.
Wanna try ?
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You ment it on that way.
Yes, because , I personally agree and am in the mood for a discussion all of the time I am online.
But this and discussion anymore, this are just accusations and moaning about changes made by developers.
And if you cannot stop that, why dont let you feel that in the way you care the most about? (money)
Think about it, this topic wont change anything, and see this as an improvement.
As RP is lack now, and then you start moaning about non RP stuff.
Why it's NEVER GOOD.......
I am not monign why do you think that?
You mean just becase i like to talk over this ''disagreedment'' to the end,i am automatacly moaning?
Look I can stop posting and this topic will sink to the botom of this pages,OR we can talk this over and forget about it after,what do you say?
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LOCK THE TOPIC AND STOP MOANING
(http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/Themes/default/images/warnpmod.gif) Do not tell us to lock a topic. And stop shouting, k ?
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Who cares about that?
Finally some newer people get those cars too.
And with "removing money" , it ment - seems the only thing you care about is money.
And nothing stops your from fighting for it, this includes disrespecting developers, other people of the community and new people.
So, I ment: "We need to remove that, to make you stop?"
p.s They said, there wouldnt be cars added at this moment (by the way, they added faggios and bikes before, and no one made a topic about that)
I am not Desrespect Developers, in fackt i have the moste of respect for developers,i am just talking over this disengreenmet(expresing my thoughts).
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I am not Desrespect Developers, in fackt i have the moste of respect for developers,i am just talking over this disengreenmet(expresing my thoughts).
If you have respect for them.
Read Gandalf's post, think again, and think what you are doing now.
You are ruining stuff for people who enjoy this server, and who like to RP.
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We have set cars in script and set a price for them.
Did we ever encourage people paying millions extra for cars and houses ?
Did we ever tell people such value was 'real' ?
Actually all those who made extra money on cars, business and houses by getting money above the price that was set in game have been lucky.
Why new people find it so hard to make money and get a house and a car ? Because some greedy regulars have though of overpricing their posessions so they would have millions more.
Why do people scam and take loans they can only afford by hiding under other names ? Because that is the only way they can get greedy players to share some of the money.
Are you unhappy because suddenly your car value went down ? You are wRONg. The car value has stayed the same.
What has been decreased is the 'illegal' value of cars. Want to complain to the Government about your illegal money disappearing ? Please go ahead, it might bring us to new ideas on how to let people lose money.
Better prepare to sell all your stuff and hide your millions. Tomorrow cars may be not worth more than the official price. The day after that business might no longer have value over the set price. Next week houses may no longer be able to sell above the set value.
And if you guys complain enough about it, we will reset ALL accounts and you can start from the beginning.
Wanna try ?
All the RESPECT Gandalf i honor your decisions!
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Why should new players get bad cars and regular players get good cars?
I have to somewhat agree and disagree. From this point forward I would recommend adding the rest of the less-sporty cars first so things can balance themselves out, and then slowly slip in a sports car or two, so the balance is kept.
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The less sporty vehicles are next anyway
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If you have respect for them.
Read Gandalf's post, think again, and think what you are doing now.
You are ruining stuff for people who enjoy this server, and who like to RP.
Me ruening?
I haven't done anything to make a change.
I am small black dot on a white sheet of paper, nothing i say can make a change to other players.
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Money matter much on server, cus money makes server alive. Without money there is no RP. You cant do drug business. That means no cops. That means no jobs. That means no bizzes. That means no houses and cars. That means no Argonath server.
Everything is about money, in game and in real life. Money is connection to all RPs and it matters alot.
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Me ruening?
I haven't done anything to make a change.
I am small black dot on a white sheet of paper, nothing i say can make a change to other players.
And if you guys complain enough about it, we will reset ALL accounts and you can start from the beginning.
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The less sporty vehicles are next anyway
Thank You Celeborn!
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Money matter much on server, cus money makes server alive. Without money there is no RP. You cant do drug business. That means no cops. That means no jobs. That means no bizzes. That means no houses and cars. That means no Argonath server.
Everything is about money, in game and in real life. Money is connection to all RPs and it matters alot.
Money is important - but having like 100K is enough to do some decent RP.
Asking 2000K for Infernus, that's moneygreedy, and that's the biggest problem.
People want the most money , but I advice you - to read Gandalf's post ;)
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Money matter much on server, cus money makes server alive. Without money there is no RP. You cant do drug business. That means no cops. That means no jobs. That means no bizzes. That means no houses and cars. That means no Argonath server.
Everything is about money, in game and in real life. Money is connection to all RPs and it matters alot.
We need to combine Money+RolePlay To get the best resaulet!
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I think 1 thing, scripted jobs dont make so much money. Best and only decent way to earn cash is to :weed: :skull: and get lucky on events. You must balance those jobs a bit and that will balance RP and money, and will raise RP.
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I think 1 thing, scripted jobs dont make so much money. Best and only decent way to earn cash is to :weed: :skull: and get lucky on events. You must balance those jobs a bit and that will balance RP and money, and will raise RP.
Yes,something like that.
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Gambling goes far...
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Oh, So what you are saying is that I am thinking only about money? I have only 4 grand left, I will ask my friend to give me back my 20 grand. Then I will have 24 grand. Say I do if you want to get that money! I dont know if I will get 20 grand fats but you will definetly get 4! Just say I do! And get it! I dont care about it!
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I still don't get it, why the prices for auction became so much more after RS 4.0... it doesn't make any sense.. yea some fancy new cars was added but all vehicles prices just went so high...
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I still don't get it, why the prices for auction became so much more after RS 4.0... it doesn't make any sense.. yea some fancy new cars was added but all vehicles prices just went so high...
because people are money greedy
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I still don't get it, why the prices for auction became so much more after RS 4.0... it doesn't make any sense.. yea some fancy new cars was added but all vehicles prices just went so high...
Thats what is called street smarts,or in this server...
Argos Streets.
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I still don't get it, why the prices for auction became so much more after RS 4.0... it doesn't make any sense.. yea some fancy new cars was added but all vehicles prices just went so high...
High? They lost it not gained. Also a lot of peaople just found unowned cars like huntley and tought like oh sgit - onwer none huntley... Then they tryed to sell it and discovered that they are priceless...
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because people are money greedy
So you are saying people weren't money greedy in rs3?
High? They lost it not gained. Also a lot of peaople just found unowned cars like huntley and tought like oh sgit - onwer none huntley... Then they tryed to sell it and discovered that they are priceless...
What?? Huntley is getting sold for over 100,000$ these days... and as far as I know it's stilL RS 4!
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So you are saying people weren't money greedy in rs3?
Well because of these new cars came people are selling them higher to buy them new ones unowned to sell them even expensiver for examplel i had an infernus i sold i for 2mill i find a freeway i sold that for 2 mill then u have 4 mill thats non-rp and money hungry
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Still say I do and get the money! 4 grand now and 20 later... (probably if my friend will get them ).
Learn this: Money is not inportant but the qualitiy is!
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 11:38:39 pm
Well because of these new cars came people are selling them higher to buy them new ones unowned to sell them even expensiver for examplel i had an infernus i sold i for 2mill i find a freeway i sold that for 2 mill then u have 4 mill thats non-rp and money hungry
kinda inpossible... eh...
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The most important is Roleplay,Fun,Rep, well money can be important if your roleplaying a businessman
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 11:40:30 pm
Still say I do and get the money! 4 grand now and 20 later... (probably if my friend will get them ).
Learn this: Money is not inportant but the qualitiy is!
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 11:38:39 pm
kinda inpossible... eh...
its an example.
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The most important is Roleplay,Fun,Rep, well money can be important if your roleplaying a businessman
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 11:40:30 pm
its an example.
I know but it was opposite...
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I know but it was opposite...
What do you mean?
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Guys, i didnt read 11 pages, but let me ask one thing:
Less sport cars, people moan add more, devs add now you moan we have too much? you asked for more vehicles.
And to remind all, this is Argonath.. not money trading.. Since when do we care about cash so much?
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Guys, i didnt read 11 pages, but let me ask one thing:
Less sport cars, people moan add more, devs add now you moan we have too much? you asked for more vehicles.
And to remind all, this is Argonath.. not money trading.. Since when do we care about cash so much?
lets remove cash and become a scrict roleplay server
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This is hilarious. Whatever the developers does, people get pissed off because they are greedy and want their virtual money. You guys should be playing because it's fun, not to get money that you even can't use IRL.
A quote from Grzesiek's signature on AV forum:
Play for fun and friendship, not for stats and achievements.
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This is hilarious. Whatever the developers does, people get pissed off because they are greedy and want their virtual money. You guys should be playing because it's fun, not to get money that you even can't use IRL.
A quote from Grzesiek's signature on AV forum:
and for rep
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and for rep
you dont get the point, dont you?
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What the hell? I hear it for the first time. Who asked for sport cars? That is damn wrong!
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Guys, i didnt read 11 pages, but let me ask one thing:
Less sport cars, people moan add more, devs add now you moan we have too much? you asked for more vehicles.
And to remind all, this is Argonath.. not money trading.. Since when do we care about cash so much?
Am someone acutaly moan that there are not enaugh soprt cars?
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and for rep
What rep? Make a good roleplay situation. It will bring you some rep... Do you know why I bought infernus? I bought it for fun! It is the fastest samp car and I wanted to do stunts with it... Also I was loughing when I locked it and left it at LSPD - people were trying to get it all the time. :D I have always tought: you can get everything through RP - even Rep god damn it.
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Sorry,but with RolePlay you really can't make much money,atleast without RolePlay Robbing etc.
Oh dear, you are so wrong.
Why don't you experience the legal role-playing? Tell me after you do.
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What rep? Make a good roleplay situation. It will bring you some rep... Do you know why I bought infernus? I bought it for fun! It is the fastest samp car and I wanted to do stunts with it... Also I was loughing when I locked it and left it at LSPD - people were trying to get it all the time. :D I have always tought: you can get everything through RP - even Rep god damn it.
rep = respect = friendship and for ur information bullet is the best and i know your gonna sell it for mills dont worry i wont tell ;)
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Oh dear, you are so wrong.
Why don't you experience the legal role-playing? Tell me after you do.
What?
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 11:55:16 pm
rep = respect = friendship and for ur information bullet is the best and i know your gonna sell it for mills dont worry i wont tell ;)
What Bullet?
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What?
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 11:55:16 pm
What Bullet?
yes bullet.
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yes bullet.
Are you talking about the car or Player?
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Are you talking about the car or Player?
car, matey, i dont judge people in person.
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car, matey, i dont judge people in person.
So what about the car?
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So what about the car?
You said infernus is the best car but naa bullet is the best car :)
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You said infernus is the best car but naa bullet is the best car :)
Am no, i didne tsaid anything about it. XD
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You said infernus is the best car but naa bullet is the best car :)
What? I said its the fastest! Damn!
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What? I said its the fastest! Damn!
Whats does this mean?
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What rep? Make a good roleplay situation. It will bring you some rep... Do you know why I bought infernus? I bought it for fun! It is the fastest samp car and I wanted to do stunts with it... Also I was loughing when I locked it and left it at LSPD - people were trying to get it all the time. :D I have always tought: you can get everything through RP - even Rep god damn it.
Care to explain the underline.
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We have set cars in script and set a price for them.
Did we ever encourage people paying millions extra for cars and houses ?
Did we ever tell people such value was 'real' ?
Actually all those who made extra money on cars, business and houses by getting money above the price that was set in game have been lucky.
Why new people find it so hard to make money and get a house and a car ? Because some greedy regulars have though of overpricing their posessions so they would have millions more.
Why do people scam and take loans they can only afford by hiding under other names ? Because that is the only way they can get greedy players to share some of the money.
Are you unhappy because suddenly your car value went down ? You are wRONg. The car value has stayed the same.
What has been decreased is the 'illegal' value of cars. Want to complain to the Government about your illegal money disappearing ? Please go ahead, it might bring us to new ideas on how to let people lose money.
Better prepare to sell all your stuff and hide your millions. Tomorrow cars may be not worth more than the official price. The day after that business might no longer have value over the set price. Next week houses may no longer be able to sell above the set value.
And if you guys complain enough about it, we will reset ALL accounts and you can start from the beginning.
Wanna try ?
nah im good. ;)
now can we have a big lock on this topic before we lose everything.. please?
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Ohh Fish, big fail, sorry man.
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I said fastest not best! Learn to read man, no offense :)
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nah im good. ;)
now can we have a big lock on this topic before we lose everything.. please?
agrred 100%
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LoL :rofl:
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nah im good. ;)
now can we have a big lock on this topic before we lose everything.. please?
Hmm, this saunds logical...Hmmm
Yeah Lets Do That :)
Post Merge: October 26, 2009, 12:04:52 am
Sorry For The Time Everyone!!! :)
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Hmm, this saunds logical...Hmmm
Yeah Lets Do That :)
Sorry i read to fast
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Sorry i read to fast
You are sorry Abut what?
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Lock the topic please! It fails anyway... Damn! I lost a lot of money but eh. I hope I will be lucky soon :)
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You are sorry Abut what?
sorry ment to write to bullet that i read to fast abou the best car and no bullet is fast car :)
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sorry ment to write to bullet that i read to fast abou the best car and no bullet is fast car :)
No biggy :)
Post Merge: October 26, 2009, 12:09:27 am
LoL :rofl:
Same.
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sorry ment to write to bullet that i read to fast abou the best car and no bullet is fast car :)
:D HeHe. I am mad at myself that i got forum warn...
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:D HeHe. I am mad at myself that i got forum warn...
No biggy i think it wil be removed,after some time,no?
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THAT'S A GOOD THING, Argonath is not about economies and making lots of money, it's about ROLEPLAY
How can you possibly roleplay without an economy.
Thats like removing the real worlds economy and asking them to live normal lives.
Cant happen.
You will ruin the server.
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No biggy i think it wil be removed,after some time,no?
Can it be removed? I would love it becouse pretty much noone got my idea when I got warned.
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How can you possibly roleplay without an economy.
Thats like removing the real worlds economy and asking them to live normal lives.
Cant happen.
You will ruin the server.
Welll,agreed,but nothing we can change here,you might as well live with it....
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How can you possibly roleplay without an economy.
Thats like removing the real worlds economy and asking them to live normal lives.
Cant happen.
You will ruin the server.
True but try to tell it... Remember: Money is not inportant.
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Can it be removed? I would love it becouse pretty much noone got my idea when I got warned.
Well the reasan is pretty silly,all becase you made this toipic ,so i think it will be removed after some time,so chill out :)
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I hope. I really hope they will.
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Behave for one freaking time.....
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I hope. I really hope they will.
They will just give them some time to think it over...
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About the part only regulars gets the sport cars, I see no problem with that...
What happend with "Work your way up"? I mean how would be like if you got it all when you are new...
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Behave for one freaking time.....
Well I am trying but sometimes I just loose my mind... I would enjoy my warn but I dont becouse almost noone got my idea: Its more about having regular cars more than sport cars! With more I mean much more. I kinda wanted sport cars to be rare as it is in real life. Sorry but I was just making a suggestion... This topic kinda started to fail at the start and I made a lot of people angry/mad and I am sorry for that. Anything else I can witout words? Forum pm me then.
Oh and you can lock this topic btw!
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You're talking about your personal economic crisis. This update is stimulating the economy of Argonath. Because new cars were added, the supply and demand has increased.
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You're talking about your personal economic crisis. This update is stimulating the economy of Argonath. Because new cars were added, the supply and demand has increased.
Cars will drop by millions.
People are going to lose alot of money for no apparent reason.
There was no need for another 10 or whatever infernuses, If newbies want cars they can buy rubbish ones untill they can afford a decent one.
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Cars will drop by millions.
People are going to lose alot of money for no apparent reason.
There was no need for another 10 or whatever infernuses, If newbies want cars they can buy rubbish ones untill they can afford a decent one.
That's right. But from now on there will be more sales, think long-term.
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That's right. But from now on there will be more sales, think long-term.
Hopefully the prices will raise for the poor people who payed millions for infernuses beforehand.
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I changed my mind on this after thinking..
BUT If these were added to 'stimulate' economy it didn't really work, because ALL rich players got them. I know only 2-3 people who were under 60,000 and got one of these cars. One is my friend. All other cars are SASD (They have 3 limos, 2 ZR-350s, 1 Elegy, and an Infernus, gvardia got 3 or so cars, Stracci got 1 or 2 etc etc.)
And please: people stop trolling with 'LOL U ONLY SAD CUZ U DIDNT GET ONE!111oneoneiamrighteleven1oneone11.' Because your wrong probably. I couldn't be happier for those 2-3 new people. They truthfully deserve it.
BTW: For anyone who can't make simple logic; More = Less worth. 10 infernuses or so now, they are gonna be worth 1mil or 1.5 mil max now. Possible a reason people are complaining... truthfully i'd be a bit mad too since they probably spent 2mil, maybe even 3 mil to buy it.
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Exactly Roman.
We didnt need a shitload of bloody supercars, a load of Tahoma's or all the other cars you added
would have done JUST fine. Now people are snapping up all the good cars and a shitload of
the RPish cars are sitting unowned.
Its like letting the whole world win the lottery. :neutral:
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How can you possibly roleplay without an economy.
Thats like removing the real worlds economy and asking them to live normal lives.
Cant happen.
You will ruin the server.
lol?
Money is only a helping factor.. Do you know what rp is?
./me is role play, everything else is a helping command...
Heres an example, some time ago i bought rp candy from a new guy, and since i saw potencial in him i did pay nice for candy, to help this new guy in this "money hungry leet rpers world". All this time, a veteran was watching and he said: "Whats the point, you bought air?"
wth???
Old players, remember rs2?
remember drug system? oh right we didnt have any... did we have drug lords? did we have drug busts ? yes we did, it was enjoyable to play, noone gave a rats ass about money.. What about now? guy sells candy, people ask where is scripted candy...
Cmon guys, use your damn imagination.. You all got just too lazy..
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Hell yeah cDa. I remmeber when we both we're [FBI], We really had some good Drug Bust's, Mafia organized party's, people got killed with allot of weapons in hand and didn't moaned..Most Players in argonath Atm only care about Money, What in hell is the good thing about money, We can have kewl cars and houses, and ? ITS A GAME, your here to have fun, not to pass 6 months working and then get a House and a car, if you wish to be working all the time for money, Uninstall GTA SA from your computer and go work IRL ffs, We're here to have fun, not to work..
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People who play to become admins, own the best cars, houses or businesses should be playing who wants to be a ZOMG millionaire, not Argonath RPG. Simples. The 'ZOMG I have 21434MILLIONS' millionaires should use their money in order to stimulate the economy, not wait for the number in /bank to go higher once they buy a car/house/bizz and sell it for 20% more than they bought it for. There was noany reason to sell the car at a higher price, but greed. The ZOMG economists will know that the inflation was caused solely by the ZOMG economists, who ironically happen to be the ZOMG moaners and ZOMG millionaires.. so if anyone is to blame for NOOOOOOO ECONOMY GONE DOWN I NEED MORE MONEYS NAO, it's you players who moan.
If you don't like the addition of the new cars: There is no ANY reason to say that 'ZOMG I LOSED MAH MONEYS, WAT 2 DO NAO' - you have lost nothing if you are not a ZOMG $999999999999 player. You owned a fast car before, and still own a fast car now.
There are people on the server that log in once every two months to 'save' their car, when it could be used by someone else who will actually use the car.. (Sadly, most people end off selling the car that is found unowned due to inactivity..)
There are a small number of people who use their money, and spread their wealth, so that not only they can enjoy the game, but people who they call their friends can too. This can be as little as paying for an entrance fee, to realising a friend's dream for them. The people here moaning, do not give a crap about RP.. they care about ZOMG bank balance, if they used their heads, they would realise that the two can work hand in hand, and that getting lots of money is not the most fun way to involve money in the server, but using it is.
If you really want to act like a hero and 'rescue the economy' - sell all your invent and buy it all in shares as you would do 'in real life'. Don't go around making typical ZOMG moan topics like this.
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Now I might look it at all this from a different point of view and that I am on no ones side. Neutral.
In May when I first got on Argonath, I saw the beginning of this economic crisis. When I got the starting $10,000, I put in my bank and never used it. After a few freecop days, I decided to give up on the server and never login. I got back on in June. Everything stayed the same. I came in, said "Hi" in /p and I never got a reply back. I was a noob. I joined Gvardia, as I saw them being rich and I wanted to be at that level. I made my first $80,000 from selling a Gas Station I bought for $20,000. If you read the book "Rich Dad, Poor Dad", this is called an active, meaning you earn cash from it. A common problem I saw was that most business were owned because of the /loan. The /loan feature was fairly abused. I didn't abuse it as I only used the Gas Station for only 2 weeks. After sometime of searching, I found a house on Grove St. This house made me to $100,000 fairly fast. I always dreamed of having that Bullet or an Infernus that the rich had, I knew it took them time to get it, I never asked or moaned for one. I worked hard to buy this car and I never got it. Till last night. Last night had made me feel from poor to rich in a few seconds. I payed the man who was holding the Turismo for me $160,000. His reply? "Woot! I am rich!!!!1!" This made me smile. I finally reached the level I wanted to be and him wanting to be rich.
Thanks for the hard work CBFasi and all the developers. I really appreciate it.
Luke Grant
AV Trainee
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to be honest i dont care about money when i get killed or lose alot of cash when price of cars goes down...
but removing all money is wrong, people worked their ass off for this and all this time spend, and then just start from scratch? money should be involved in RP, but people should not cry and moan of they get killed or lost money from a car.
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They shouldent cry or moan at all.
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Instead of worrying about what you lost, think about getting back up on your feet.
Regardless of how much money a person has, he will not be happy. Give everyone 100 million on server and they will want more - "Always good to have an extra million" is the comment passed by a regular on local chat. The only time i saw people freely exchange cash was on test server(because they could not keep it). People were transferring funds which occupied our screen more than the public chat! In fact we had to request them to stop spamming the achat!
Like I said, think about getting back up - for example whoever owns clothing stores, make an advert for giving discounts. If your entry fee is 300 dollars and your discount is 20 percent, give 60 dollars back to the customer before he leaves. Stand in your shop, greet the customers who come, take them to the mirror in your shop, tell them 'Sir, this suit shows the lion in you' and have fun! Or try being a fireman giving mobile carwashes. Or organise a fair in Disneyland with prizes for events(Have a DD with an event prize of 5k or 10k and charge 500 dollar entry fee for the fair. In the process you will earn a little extra). Maybe organise a faggio race on the beach in SF or LS with the tyres blown off, again charging an entry fee and contributing to the prize. And belive me, you will have a really good laugh watching the faggios too!
If you use your imagination, the possibilities are limitless really. You are here to have fun. As stressed by various people, this is Argonath RPG and not Argonath-the money making server. Try and roleplay using your imagination instead of being in some gang pointlessly shooting cops and saying "zomg i killed 5 cops, im uber leet HAHAHA!" Doing something different and fun for all will give you something that will not ordinarily lose its value - respect.
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Wow I like how people are loosing the point... My god... Do you even know the point?
Oh and thanks for the nice words: moaning and something else. Even if its not you still imagine it is... Great. I would love to see what will be going on here tomorrow...
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to be honest i dont care about money when i get killed or lose alot of cash when price of cars goes down...
but removing all money is wrong, people worked their ass off for this and all this time spend, and then just start from scratch? money should be involved in RP, but people should not cry and moan of they get killed or lost money from a car.
They should of spent their time RP'ing and having fun, not working..To work, I suggest we all go and take care of ours life IRL..not work in a game, I mean..What would happen if tommorrow SAMP closed ? you would all loose money, You would all passed the time in wich SAMP existed working, And didn't had one single bit of fun...lets have fun instead of working...
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I'm curious which 'moaners' in this topic made shitloads of money with selling unowned cars when RS4.0 was released :lol:
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I'm curious which 'moaners' in this topic made shitloads of money with selling unowned cars when RS4.0 was released :lol:
probably arround 80 percent..
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People who play to become admins, own the best cars, houses or businesses should be playing who wants to be a ZOMG millionaire, not Argonath RPG. Simples. The 'ZOMG I have 21434MILLIONS' millionaires should use their money in order to stimulate the economy, not wait for the number in /bank to go higher once they buy a car/house/bizz and sell it for 20% more than they bought it for. There was noany reason to sell the car at a higher price, but greed. The ZOMG economists will know that the inflation was caused solely by the ZOMG economists, who ironically happen to be the ZOMG moaners and ZOMG millionaires.. so if anyone is to blame for NOOOOOOO ECONOMY GONE DOWN I NEED MORE MONEYS NAO, it's you players who moan.
I think the bold part is what you are doing? Look at your own bank. Your also selling and buying cars constantly.
You never changed, UltraSforza.
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Because of all the moaning from players, maybe we should actually start fresh. No names registerd, start with 10k etc..
i believe it will be fair due to new players not having cars and all regulars having these fancy cars.
also this will stop the moaning cuz everyone starts equally.
Just think about it. You got 10k starting money, spend at least 2k on Phone and Radio. U got 8k left, Spend all of it on 1 million lottos and ur bound to win.
simple.
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LOCK THIS!
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Because of all the moaning from players, maybe we should actually start fresh. No names registerd, start with 10k etc..
i believe it will be fair due to new players not having cars and all regulars having these fancy cars.
also this will stop the moaning cuz everyone starts equally.
Just think about it. You got 10k starting money, spend at least 2k on Phone and Radio. U got 8k left, Spend all of it on 1 million lottos and ur bound to win.
simple.
No, it won't be fair against the regulars. I'm not money greedy at all - but I find it comfortable that I can pay for gas and food (and weapons when needed), without having to fear to get in the negatives.
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LOCK THIS!
Never lock up a heated discussion. People are posting here so much for a reason.
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Ok read my point of this in the start of the topic. Please!
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It's just good that they have added more cars.
It increases roleplay possibilities, it's more fun now when there is more to choose between...well, everything is great.
"Economic crisis"? Who gives a damn? If that's really how you feel, then work your way up to the top again? Wait till the cars increases in prices et cetera.
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Never lock up a heated discussion. People are posting here so much for a reason.
This is getting too hot!
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Ok I made the point. Read and please understand my idea...
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I think the bold part is what you are doing? Look at your own bank. Your also selling and buying cars constantly.
You never changed, UltraSforza.
95% of my 'cash' is not in my bank. The last car I sold, was in August, not thirty seven sold yesterday. How on Earth does being rich mean I have moaned about the addition of new cars.. I support the decision to add the faster cars, I would have thought you would be too.. Now you have to run around less to drive one. As for buying other cars, I've kept a Buffalo which I have had since December and brought more cars for the use of my friends. I made all my money through drugs, something hardly anyone else on the server has done. I made a monopoly on the drugs system, nobody else challenged me when I tried to be a drug lord, and so they suffered later. I can show you where my money lies ingame, it's not on me or in my bank.
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I would understand if its reallife money but its just number on your computer screen...
RP is alot better thing.
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ITT: People who think Argonath is a server where only money is important.
Overcompensation? I think so.
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This fights, are basically fights between capitalism and communism.
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This fights, are basically fights between capitalism and communism.
So who will win?
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So who will win?
The one, who realized, that opposite goal is more greater then theirs.
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No guys! I dont want to hear about money! What I wanted is to make a suggestion about adding regular cars way more than sport cars...
Money isnt the point, quality is! I wanted to make a suggestion about adding great cars we dont have at all like forklift (vehicles for fun).
I didnt wanted the sport cars so the price would be the same for them...
Dont get my point? Ok... Imagine: Seeing almost every player having a super car and passing you in 300km/h or laughing your ass of when seeing a forklift falling out from Andromada? It was just for example. :lol: Yes I lost a lot money but now I am cool... Yesterday kinda lost my mind when heard about 10 new added infernuses... But eh - Sh*ts happen right? So yeah... I spend 5 grand on being a suspect and I feel great about loosing it coz I had a lot of fun... My main point is not to banrupt/going in negative money ( - 1111 ). Becouse I will be screwed when a cop will ask to pay a ticket... :lol:
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I think the bold part is what you are doing? Look at your own bank. Your also selling and buying cars constantly.
You never changed, UltraSforza.
/win davey... /win.
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. I made a monopoly on the drugs system, nobody else challenged me when I tried to be a drug lord, and so they suffered later.
Just notice this.. You didnt made nothing. Both Eugene, and Dwight, left you (Thousands ) miles behind.
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Just notice this.. You didnt made nothing. Both Eugene, and Dwight, left you (Thousands ) miles behind.
orly
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It's only scripted money. ;)
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i guess people havent read this topic carefull and took it in note.
i saw a guy selling a infernus yesterday for 7 mil.
outrageous how money hungry they are
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outrageous how money hungry they are
Correcto, besides i dont see any lowered car prices in the city hall auctions ..... Prices are the same imo .....
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Correcto, besides i dont see any lowered car prices in the city hall auctions ..... Prices are the same imo .....
Something really has to change.
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Lock the topic please! It fails anyway... Damn! I lost a lot of money but eh. I hope I will be lucky soon :)
Locked by request of the topic maker..