Difference between being an Admin,and being a Cop.(Forbidding criminal roleplay)

[Everett]

Or you could go to the station, get an investigation and possibly even get the officer to trouble (by reporting them for false ticket or suspection on SAPD forums).

Only way I can prove my innocence is if I record every second of my gameplay, or the accusing cop acts like a total retard during the investigation.

Just wanted to respond, don't mean to derail the topic.

[Gnb_22]

Or you could go to the station, get an investigation and possibly even get the officer to trouble (by reporting them for false ticket or suspection on SAPD forums).

Yeah but when you go to LSPD 99.99% your still given a guilty verdict by the Police because no one believes a criminal anyways. Then who has the time to take "RP" evidence to SAPD forums for one retard who probably doesnt even give a fuck about a SAPD career or getting copbanned or a newbie who probably may not even come back to the server when he /q's ?

[Stivi]

it all start with "Stop your car!"

How else would you ask someone to stop ? oh, sometimes you also get warned for "you're not a cop to pull over people".

and ends with" /send or someone killed"

That's a rulebreak.


Couldn't agree more with this topic. Something needs to be done. 

[Playa]

Outstanding points, Cofi!

[Gnb_22]

No, you're wrong.
when the criminal start caring for the roleplay more than they do for the money . The citizen will start enjoying a nice quality RP scene and would probably happily giveout that money to the robber.. but since all the rob scenarios on Argonath are the same, there is nothing to enjoy about it...
it all start with "Stop your car!"
and ends with" /send or someone killed"

Or Civilians most times assume is the same so they report before any interaction. Y'all are in denial and are total blind because you role play on the other side of the fence. Most times criminals are reported just because they are criminals. These days as soon as a crime is committed you get instantly frozen by and admin before even starting to evade and by the time your done explaining you are already surrounding by the boys with blue names.

[LoHi]

Only way I can prove my innocence is if I record every second of my gameplay, or the accusing cop acts like a total retard during the investigation.

Just wanted to respond, don't mean to derail the topic.

I guess I should make a guide on how to do that, it's very easy.

Yeah but when you go to LSPD 99.99% your still given a guilty verdict by the Police because no one believes a criminal anyways. Then who has the time to take "RP" evidence to SAPD forums for one retard who probably doesnt even give a fuck about a SAPD career or getting copbanned or a newbie who probably may not even come back to the server when he /q's ?

Not even ONCE have I gone to jail after being investigated by the police (and I have been playing since 2007 - so quite a few times by now). You may be terrible at defending your position, or you did commit a crime if you do end up jailed.

Citizens will enjoy when we tell them in OOC or pm that we wont take real money, wont kill him

I hope you don't mind me highlighting this. It tells us that you are there to RP, not to get a few dollars or suspection status.

[Everett]

I guess I should make a guide on how to do that, it's very easy.

Please clarify what you're getting at, so I can shape a response.

[Benn]

-How else would you ask someone to stop ? oh, sometimes you also get warned for "you're not a cop to pull over people".

When you answer my quotes please elaborate so I can understand what you mean...
You can ask someone to stop by using /me to express signs this usually takes time for drivers to type and drive so the Co- Driver should do it... or try to slow down the car till it stop because if we keep having the same routine of STOP THE CAR trust me no one would like to roleplay with such criminals...

didn't understand what you meant with: That's a rulebreak... well it is a rulebreak you stating a fact or trying to tell me something ?

Or Civilians most times assume is the same so they report before any interaction. Y'all are in denial and are total blind because you role play on the other side of the fence. Most times criminals are reported just because they are criminals. These days as soon as a crime is committed you get instantly frozen by and admin before even starting to evade and by the time your done explaining you are already surrounding by the boys with blue names.

You keep trying to look for excuses, I am stating fact not expressing possible option I have participated in many many robberies and kindaps at the victim side and I always face the same routine... this isn't fun.
Now you might not agree with me and claim I am making this up to make you look bad... but you know exactly how many of the kindaps and robberies are like this.
We are not blinded or in denial...We are all tottal aware of the case since I think everyone who replied under this topic did participate in a kindap or a robbery scene as the kidnapper or a robber... now for the rest of the stuff you said, I think I already answered that before... as I said I agreed with you guys admins shouldn't interrupt a roleplay unless it is getting out of control and rules being broken...

[LoHi]

Spoiler for Hiden:

Please clarify what you're getting at, so I can shape a response.

I'm just saying that recording your gameplay is easy, inexpensive (resource wise) and solves a lot of problems. It even gives you a chance to sue people if you roleplay it. But a guide specific to SA:MP might make it easy enough for people to roam around with it.

[Stivi]

When you answer my quotes please elaborate so I can understand what you mean...
You can ask someone to stop by using /me to express signs this usually takes time for drivers to type and drive so the Co- Driver should do it... or try to slow down the car till it stop because if we keep having the same routine of STOP THE CAR trust me no one would like to roleplay with such criminals...

didn't understand what you meant with: That's a rulebreak... well it is a rulebreak you stating a fact or trying to tell me something ?

Reported for ramming. Of course there are ways, but that's that one gets the job done. 

It's a rulebreak, as in, really a rulebreak. Like forcing to /gu.

[Benn]

Reported for ramming. Of course there are ways, but that's that one gets the job done. 

It's a rulebreak, as in, really a rulebreak. Like forcing to /gu.

To be honest I lost you..
none of what I mentioned is a rulebreak... you always try to park the car infront of the vehicle and not PIT it to the side or ram it with all your power... you can turn anything good into a rulebreak if you don't really do it right...

[Huntsman]

This started as a topic with a great point...
... got derailed into yet another cops vs criminals shitfest...

[Stivi]

To be honest I lost you..
none of what I mentioned is a rulebreak... you always try to park the car infront of the vehicle and not PIT it to the side or ram it with all your power... you can turn anything good into a rulebreak if you don't really do it right...

/send or someone killed

THIS. IS. A. RULE BREAK. This can be reported and it's valid. The point of the topic is... Go read it again.

[Benn]

THIS. IS. A. RULE BREAK. This can be reported and it's valid. The point of the topic is... Go read it again.

... Dude You stating facts again I didn't disagree with you but sadly thats what happen each kidnap robbery RP ends with paying the guys or getting killed...

This started as a topic with a great point...
... got derailed into yet another cops vs criminals shitfest...

Because you claim it is just admins fault why criminals don't roleplay anymore... when it is criminals fault too why they don't change the routine RPs of kidnapping and robbing...

[Tiny]

This started as a topic with a great point...
... got derailed into yet another cops vs criminals shitfest...

Not every discussion is an arguement with no sense. Discussing solves things and can prevent problems from appearing, let people talk.

About the roleplay thing I believe that the intention of both sides decides where the roleplay will lead. If both sides are doing a roleplay to have fun, I doubt there will be any problems, even if it is a war between criminal groups. If the roleplay is not used as an excuse to -for example- DM each other just to be ok with the rules, then it won't end fine.