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Offline JaaskaaTopic starter

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on: December 29, 2007, 01:04:50 am
At the moment I'm a bit mad, maybe this goes in flame section or maybe not, I want to explain a few things :

-FBI is not a regular police force. So STOP RUNNING AROUND US saying : Cops help me please help me ... It's just annoying and actualy we die don't f.... care ! Our job is different. I accept to act like a cop when we are 4 or 5 on the server and that there are NO cops, not even a cadet, and usualy I don't go around for minor crimes. So as a FBI, when there are other cops on, I'll just ignore you, if your matter is not a federal matter. This message is  valid for all FBI  :
We will take care of our investigations, federal ones, and help cops in serious problems or huge crisis. Since airports and water area are considered as belonging to their local area but might also be considered as federal ground, we might help in those case (Boat stealing, suspect hiding in airport and so on) and also on hostage strikes or such major things. Even if you want to discuss this matter, we are deaf. We are not here to make cops job, we are not here to steal their job. That's it !

-Second point : Civilans please, but hoh so please, stop GETTING IN THE MIDDLE OF A HIGH SPEED CHASE ! Today again, we were chasing cops killers twice and a kidnapper once when some civilans just came and began to block our path in all the way they could ... Some of them got reported, but we can't report everyone since sometimes they are 3 or 4 and that we have to focus on the chase ... What should we do Aragorn or Gandalf or Legolas or other awesome super admins ??? Should we suspect them too ? Should we open fire at will on them until their car blow up ? I mean this would be a non-sense ... But the situation is just more and more common' and we must face it almost everyday and I'm sure that the cops will agree on regular chases.

-Third point : This one goes to some dmers and cops dmers : Some people are trying to roleplay here, and when some people come around and start punching us for no reason while we talk beside the water or try to helikill us, well, it's normal that you'll get reported for dming ... :) ... Sometimes, we just enjoy talking to prepare our next mission or to wait one of the guy who got disconnected or who is about to connect ...

- Fourth point : FBI ranchers : They are for FBI agents and so civilans and regulars cops, stop trying to take them, this will only get you reported.

-Fifth point : This is a roleplay server, not a cops and robbers. I know this have been told many but many times but damn stop trepassing in LS garage and punching cops to be wanted... This is just ridiculous and should be reported as anti-roleplay.

-Sixth point : Right to arrest a suspect who use drugs : Aragorn, in his roleplay explanation (http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=10980.0) clearly say at point 2 that :

2. As the drugs system is scripted, not allowed to accuse anyone in "imaginary" drugs deals... You have all for the roleplaying the drugs...
If you smoked weed near police officer (local chat visual action) - he has all rights to suspect you without any investigations...


and so please stop complaining when you smoke weed beside a FBI agent that we have no right to do that ! It is written rule ! (Thank you Aragorn for this !) Next one who complain, I'll probably report him to admins for frivolous threats and not knowing the Argonath roleplay system. I won't name anyone, professionalism require, but some came out complaining that I had no right to suspect them ... Please, read before complaining .... Castor was more patient than me for explaining, while he was giving a complete explanation, I answered to those person : Go read Aragorn post on forum, now shut up and follow.

-Seventh point : FBI is not allowed to use ARPD vehicles when there are any cops online. So stop yelling at us to go grab a police car and run after this or that guy, 1st : We know what we have to do and 2nd : We are just not allowed to do so ... So please leave us be ...

-Finaly, eight point : A medic blamed us because we didn't brought a drug addicted to hospital today... I would like to retork to that medic : And you, what were you doing ? Nothing ! You were yelling take him to an hospital, get him in a police car (see seventh point grrrr) ... We put him in a regular car, then I don't know why but the agent driving decided to take him to a sprunk machine ... The guy didn't had the money to buy any ... I give him money (500 dollars) and ponks, he die ... Then that medic keep yelling : you killed a man you killed a man  ... Next time dude, try to be there with ur ambulance and take him in your car, we will escort you, instead of staying there with crossed arms and yelling at us .... You have a medical formation no ? So MAKE IT SHOW ! ... And roleplay it ... And actualy, we got out of your sight and when he died, we were away from you, so I guess that this is only a big sketch and nothing else since it is impossible for someone to take 14 heroins shot and smoke 4 joints in 12 seconds ... Or if you do, well I guess that it is normal that you end up like this guy  ...

So now I'm asking to super admins team : In such a case, are we allowed to use pd cars ? ... Was that realistic, so much drug in so few time ? Is that medic to blame and be fired for being on duty but not helping ? Was it really FBI job to take care of this men ?  ... Just so many questions ...


To conclude (yes finaly it have an end :p ... I know my posts are always long) I would say that at some points, admins should be allowed to freeze people to explain them that bothering people that much is really annoying. (Or maybe should we fill a case for harassement everytime ?) .... And also that FBI is not to be considered as regular police ... They have their job, we have our job and that's it. Finaly, the famous frivolous threat : I will report you, you have no right to do that when we are perfectly in right to do it should be considered as abuse and we should be allowed to report the situation.  Last point before the closing : Drug system should have a time limit to avoid people abusing drug that much, this may,  not only save a couple of life but make it more realistic...so that medics and agents could make a decent intervention (actualy, someone who is highly under drug influence can last for about 8 to 12 minutes in overdose state before dying ...)

Sorry, I was really but really tired of the situation and I hope that alot of people will read and learn something out of it. I would also like to know what superadmins think about some of the questions I asked in this, because at some points, I see red ... I know that not everyone come and read but some people just don't want to understand. They see FBI but a blue name, so they think we are normal cops who will help them with regular problems ... They don't understand when we tell them to call 911 ... Sometimes, when not to busy, we take the report and we transmit on radio, but when we are busy, it's just painful ... And so I hope that some admins and superadmins can give us an idea to make something better out of all of this.

Guess who's next? And yes that is my homeland so prepare to die you orc!


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Reply #1 on: December 29, 2007, 06:27:58 am
2nd pt-
I see happen a lot and it gets really annoying and is not very rp. If you see a police chase IRL you don't go around following them then getting in the way and often ramming into other cop cars whether intentional or not. It is especially annoying when people do this then you suspect them for intentionally interfering with a police chase then they spam "ABUSE!!!" then eventually relog.

To this I will also add, if you see a cop pull somone over, don't drive up to there and start blocking the road or park your car then walk up to police. This is not rp and you are impeding traffic for no reason. I have had times, I pull somone over, then civilians come and start interfereing then even start complaining to me about something with me pulling the person over, then one punches me and runs off. ffs, this is not rp.

5th pt- I have seen many people do this and they do this and usually for non-rp reason. Sometimes I go there and ask trespassers why they are here and they say "To explore" or "To see why there are people here" (they saw people on radar in garage). Unless you have an rp reason to go there, stay out.

6th pt- This I have seen this many times and I have seen a time where there was a bunch of civilians surrounded by about 5 police then one decided to smoke weed for which he got suspected then he started going "omfg abuse abuse, i was abused!!" then reloged. ffs if you are that stupid to smoke drugs near police, don't start complaining if you get suspected.



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Reply #2 on: December 29, 2007, 06:37:19 am
6th point- Really annoying when someone starts yelling "oh my god!! ABUSE!! I got abused!!" when they clearly just did drugs right infront of an F.B.I. agent  :mad: then they go to cathedral(this was during christmas party) and come back out all nice and happy -.-...

Totally agree with everything jaaskaa...couldn't have said it better myself...just frustrating  :rofl:



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Reply #3 on: December 29, 2007, 06:46:55 am
About the medic.

No, in the case of an Overdose, you should get him to a hospital immediatly, Not any fucking sprunk machine(sorry), you dont get cured IRL with steroid water....
And the medic had all the right to accuse that you let him die, cause you sat their thinking "z0mg should i take this police car? z0mg i cant :(", without even thinking of the guy that overdosed.

Ûž Treatment will be dictated by the specific drug taken in the overdose. Information provided about amount, time, and underlying medical problems will be very helpful.

Ûž The stomach may be washed out by gastric lavage (stomach pumping) to mechanically remove unabsorbed drugs from the stomach.
Ûž Activated charcoal may be given to help bind drugs and keep them in the stomach and intestines. This reduces the amount absorbed into the blood. The drug, bound to the charcoal, is then expelled in the stool. Often, a cathartic is given with the charcoal so that the person more quickly evacuates stool from his or her bowels.
Ûž For certain overdoses, other medicine may need to be given either to serve as an antidote to reverse the effects of what was taken or to prevent even more harm from the drug that was initially taken. The doctor will decide if treatment needs to include additional medicines.


That is what Doctors do for an overdose case.
Not give the guy steriod water.

And our scripts are messed up(yea still  :mad: ) so, we lose the money we should be getting.
If you wanted 100HP from a medic, you get 100 from that medic, cause the scripts are screwed, that and we have no /r or any type of communicatiosn besides PM & Cell's.
Our job is hard enough without the constant nagging and bad RP from you guys.


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Reply #4 on: December 29, 2007, 08:26:55 am
Bad RP from us ? Eat a pancake dude ! :p ... Ooops it went straight out haha ... Seriously, I didn't asked myself 20 minutes if I had the right to take that car, I don't have it, that's it and that's where it end. We had civilan cars, we used them but the driver didn't knew what to do and the intoxicated was just nonroleplaying ... I was like : me drag him into the car ..... /me f****** drag him into the car .... /me f******* drag him into the f****** car .... then I was getting pissed and about to leave, he decide to finaly get in the car of my partner .... And then my partner took him to a sprunk machine rofl !!! I was like WTF OMG what are you doing S .... the hospital is the ... oh nevermind ... and we watch him die ... and what the hell ... I mean the hospital was just beside ...

At the same time, the medic was just beside and looking at us and not doing anything, only panicking ... And all the other cops, to who we asked to take him to hospital... they ran away ... I told you, we are not damn allowed to use those PD cars (can get us banned or something like that ) ... And the guy was in deep debt, couldn't have afforded medical care ... Also note that anyone using that much heroin and weed will die in any way ... Make the experience on urself in real life ... if you survive, let us know ... Hey seriously don't do that kid ... 14 shots of heroin ... let say 14 grams of heroin ...  1 gram : A regular human get a buzz ... 2 gram : a regular human is beside overdose limit ... 3 gram : any human is in overdose state, feeling paranoia and heavy sweating ... 5 grams : Death in the hour ... 8 grams : Death can follow in the 10-20 minutes ... 12 grams : Death will follow almost instantly ... So 14 grams ... It's like ... take it and die ... lethal injection ... In reality, he would have been dead before we can even stare at him and suspect him ... So don't blame us when the situation is so unrealistic and so impossible goddam !!!!

Guess who's next? And yes that is my homeland so prepare to die you orc!


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Reply #5 on: December 29, 2007, 09:06:50 am
aaaaaand welcome to my world, Jasskaa....

Mr.Speaker sitting there abusing drugs....
as a matter of fact, im not gonna help speaker.

and no, you cant get banned for entering the only car you can use in the area.

i was in fort carson, all civil cars gone, nothing but Trucks & cop bikes, what did i do?
i jumped on a cop bike and went to my house.


did i get banned?
Nope.

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Reply #6 on: December 29, 2007, 10:18:30 am
Hahahah seem that only this dude abuse that much heh ? hahaha ...
Now I understand why the medic didn't wanted to help  :razz:
Well thanks for the info, in case of absolut necessity, I guess that we might consider using pd cars without getting booted and losing our badge ....

Guess who's next? And yes that is my homeland so prepare to die you orc!


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Reply #7 on: December 29, 2007, 11:33:35 am
FBI Agents using Normal Police cars is Non-RP, and admins will punish as such.



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Reply #8 on: December 29, 2007, 08:08:35 pm
 :rofl: now it's pathetic, we get different versions from everyone ...  :gd: .... But for now I think that Anto is right, since we have very clear and strict rules about it ...

Guess who's next? And yes that is my homeland so prepare to die you orc!


 


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